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July 21, 2014, 12:55:18 AM |
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Riecoin appears to be a useless shitcoin, unless someone can prove to me why it isn't. I checked its exchange rate 2 days ago, and it'd take about 40,000 Riecoins to equal one BitCoin. That sucks.
I got signed up on ypool and am using the xptminer on several of my PCs to CPU mine Riecoin.
With a total of 5 CPU cores, split between i3, Athlon, and Celeron CPUs, I have gotten 3-1/2 Riecoins in a day and a half.
I am not impressed, to say the least. I thought it'd be cool to have my CPUs mine something, like the early days of BitCoin, but to have gained less than 1/10,000th of a BTC (about 6 cents) after a day and a half isn't good.
Looks like what you are looking for is a coin that spits out $100's per day with your mediocre setup. However, Riecoin is still only in its developmental stage with unfortunately only has 1 man doing developmental work right now (Hopefully I can join in after freeing some times). Useless is the opposite of what I'd describe Riecoin so good luck finding the new dogecoin for you to mine. Coins like Riecoin are actually better because it limits coins output per day so the supply won't diminish as quick as shitcoins like Pigcoin, Happycoin, etc.
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dga
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July 21, 2014, 01:18:19 AM |
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My definition of shitcoin is any coin that does not put profits in my pocket.
With that liberal a definition, then yes. Riecoin and bitcoin are both shitcoins to be avoided. :-) Almost nothing is really profitable to mine unless you have an edge or ruthlessly pursue new releases and profitability calculations that aren't covered by the popular calculators. For CPU-only, the exception right now is the Cryptonote family, because they're still new/weird enough that they haven't completely been taken over by the usual profit-destroying dynamics of mining difficulty adjustment. Riecoin is next on the ladder. Primecoin isn't very good on CPU these days because of the GPU miner progress. The other options are to scour the announce thread and hope you get lucky with one that gets listed on an exchange. It's a lot of work and isn't worth the time unless you're doing it at scale. But, more seriously, it's not correct or fair to term Riecoin a shitcoin. It's not going to make you rich, but Gatra has been responsible about keeping up development, it has a more solid intellectual foundation than 95% of the coins out there as far as being a worthwhile experiment in what a proof-of-work function can accomplish as a side effect, and it had a fair launch with no hidden gotchas. To me, that's the laundry list of what differentiates a non-shitcoin from the rest.
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northranger79510
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July 21, 2014, 01:23:25 AM |
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It's not going to make you rich,
For now. I will try looking into creating an online wallet tomorrow at work and see what I can do with my limited knowledge now that I have a little bit of free time.
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July 21, 2014, 01:25:05 AM |
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I still believe Riecoin has potential to pass $1 mark since Gatra is solid at his developmental work.
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dga
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July 21, 2014, 01:29:00 AM |
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It's not going to make you rich,
For now. I will try looking into creating an online wallet tomorrow at work and see what I can do with my limited knowledge now that I have a little bit of free time. Right. I should have said: "Mining and immediately selling Riecoin is not going to make you rich."
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July 21, 2014, 04:17:43 AM |
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It's not going to make you rich,
For now. I will try looking into creating an online wallet tomorrow at work and see what I can do with my limited knowledge now that I have a little bit of free time. Right. I should have said: "Mining and immediately selling Riecoin is not going to make you rich." “Converting your BTC to RIC could potentially make you rich.” is no understatement too.
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July 21, 2014, 08:03:50 AM |
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Hi All, I am looking for people with linux running on ARM processors to try a solo miner... Before you say yes, there is no warranty! It might work, it might not. The "block found" code is under tested so it might work, or it might not. It might run very very hot, it might just run hot (etc. etc. on the warnings)... What I am looking for is a gauge of interest as well as an indication of performance over different hardware. Link including a readme can be found: https://mega.co.nz/#F!6Y8ywRoZ!5ogMJEc2Teq5ckt9WClNpgWhat I would like is a summary of how you go items I would find interesting are: Hardware type used. OS version used. Performance seen. Wallet used to mine from. For performance let it run for a few hours (note it runs hot, hot enough that the stock cooling on my odroid couldn't stop thermal throttling and more than once it thermally shutdown on me) and grab the lines which look like: [2014-07-21 00:00:11] Total: 6506306 knumbers/s [2014-07-21 00:00:11] Expected average time to block: 9310938.838931 [2014-07-21 00:00:11] accepted: 0 in 2858 seconds [2014-07-21 00:00:11] thread: 1 TOTAL (p0,p1,p2,p3,p4,p5,p6) = (588022,16663,497,9,2,0,0) [2014-07-21 00:00:11] thread: 1 setup:0.117046s sieve1:0.044911s sieve2:1.215523s sieve3:0.000003s total:2.564233s
Once again, just seeing how much interest/work I need to put in to make it portable and faster. Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 21, 2014, 11:35:59 AM Last edit: July 21, 2014, 12:02:30 PM by hirschhornsalz |
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I am looking for people with linux running on ARM processors to try a solo miner...
Does not run on Android Linux. Unresolved library dependencies. Can you build a static executable or an executable linked to bionic? Edit: It's not only glibc, there are also a lot of undefined symbol from gmp. So a statically linked executable is needed, otherwise it will run only on your platform and nowhere else.
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aamarket
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July 21, 2014, 04:53:26 PM |
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tried out of curiosity - no luck enable port in firewall ./riecoin-qt -server -rpcuser=userxxx -rpcpassword=passwordxxx -rpcport=28332 -rpcallowip=192.168.1.211 ./rminerd_armv7_210714 -o http://192.168.1.120:28332/ -O userxxx:passwordxxx -m 8250000 -t 4 [2011-01-02 00:01:17] 555151 primes generated. [2011-01-02 00:01:20] pn19 sieve generated, 5005 entries [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] 4 miner threads started, using 'primesr' algorithm. [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host [2011-01-02 00:01:20] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds is there a way to comapre to DGA's miner I mentioned here ? (2ch,3ch.4ch ??) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446703.msg6718714#msg6718714
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July 21, 2014, 05:04:09 PM |
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xpm aborts if the first number in the 6tuple is a composite (which is true most of the time), for the remaining 5 numbers the primes are counted. If I assume the search for a sixtuple in the arm miner is aborted when the first composite number is met (like in cpuminer-rminerd), you can multiply the 3ch and the 4ch numbers by about 10. This is because you have 10 choices to select 2 out of 5 (or 3 out of 5), 5!/(2!*3!) = 10.
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timk225
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July 21, 2014, 06:39:41 PM |
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I shut down my Riecoin CPU miners, this is a useless coin with no potential. I have 5 RIE coins available, who wants to buy them to add to their collection? I accept BTC or CRYPT coin for purchases.
Over this past weekend, I saw a few times on my miner screens where a share was accepted and then cancelled for n not being a prime number.
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aamarket
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July 21, 2014, 06:50:15 PM |
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xpm aborts if the first number in the 6tuple is a composite (which is true most of the time), for the remaining 5 numbers the primes are counted. If I assume the search for a sixtuple in the arm miner is aborted when the first composite number is met (like in cpuminer-rminerd), you can multiply the 3ch and the 4ch numbers by about 10. This is because you have 10 choices to select 2 out of 5 (or 3 out of 5), 5!/(2!*3!) = 10.
I really did not get it - how can you compare results from provided rminerd to dga's miner I mentioned, which produces results like this : 1716[00:54:08] 2ch/s: 0.7239 3ch/s: 0.0454 4ch/s: 0.0013 Shares total: 1 / 1
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northranger79510
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July 21, 2014, 08:38:59 PM |
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I shut down my Riecoin CPU miners, this is a useless coin with no potential. I have 5 RIE coins available, who wants to buy them to add to their collection? I accept BTC or CRYPT coin for purchases.
Over this past weekend, I saw a few times on my miner screens where a share was accepted and then cancelled for n not being a prime number.
Then uhh..leave? o.o Go sell on Poloniex or something.
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July 21, 2014, 09:25:06 PM |
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is this an open source miner ? if yes i may try it out can you please point me to github or where the source is .. thanks Hi All, I am looking for people with linux running on ARM processors to try a solo miner... Before you say yes, there is no warranty! It might work, it might not. The "block found" code is under tested so it might work, or it might not. It might run very very hot, it might just run hot (etc. etc. on the warnings)... What I am looking for is a gauge of interest as well as an indication of performance over different hardware. Link including a readme can be found: https://mega.co.nz/#F!6Y8ywRoZ!5ogMJEc2Teq5ckt9WClNpgWhat I would like is a summary of how you go items I would find interesting are: Hardware type used. OS version used. Performance seen. Wallet used to mine from. For performance let it run for a few hours (note it runs hot, hot enough that the stock cooling on my odroid couldn't stop thermal throttling and more than once it thermally shutdown on me) and grab the lines which look like: [2014-07-21 00:00:11] Total: 6506306 knumbers/s [2014-07-21 00:00:11] Expected average time to block: 9310938.838931 [2014-07-21 00:00:11] accepted: 0 in 2858 seconds [2014-07-21 00:00:11] thread: 1 TOTAL (p0,p1,p2,p3,p4,p5,p6) = (588022,16663,497,9,2,0,0) [2014-07-21 00:00:11] thread: 1 setup:0.117046s sieve1:0.044911s sieve2:1.215523s sieve3:0.000003s total:2.564233s
Once again, just seeing how much interest/work I need to put in to make it portable and faster. Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 21, 2014, 10:33:47 PM |
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I am looking for people with linux running on ARM processors to try a solo miner...
Does not run on Android Linux. Unresolved library dependencies. Can you build a static executable or an executable linked to bionic? Edit: It's not only glibc, there are also a lot of undefined symbol from gmp. So a statically linked executable is needed, otherwise it will run only on your platform and nowhere else. Tried a quick -static build and well libcurl dependencies need to be resolved. I'll have some time in a few hours and will redouble my efforts! Thanks for trying it however. Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 21, 2014, 10:40:14 PM |
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tried out of curiosity - no luck enable port in firewall ./riecoin-qt -server -rpcuser=userxxx -rpcpassword=passwordxxx -rpcport=28332 -rpcallowip=192.168.1.211 ./rminerd_armv7_210714 -o http://192.168.1.120:28332/ -O userxxx:passwordxxx -m 8250000 -t 4 [2011-01-02 00:01:17] 555151 primes generated. [2011-01-02 00:01:20] pn19 sieve generated, 5005 entries [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] 4 miner threads started, using 'primesr' algorithm. [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1 [2011-01-02 00:01:20] HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host [2011-01-02 00:01:20] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds is there a way to comapre to DGA's miner I mentioned here ? (2ch,3ch.4ch ??) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446703.msg6718714#msg6718714Do you have something like: rpcallowip=10.* rpcallowip=172.* in your riecoin.conf file? I'll need to look at dga's code to come up with a method to map relative performance; question is does dga's miner look for any 4 out of 6 or does it look for any chain (contiguous) of 4? In a few hours I'll have some time. -- bsunau7
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July 21, 2014, 11:14:48 PM |
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is this an open source miner ?
if yes i may try it out can you please point me to github or where the source is .. thanks
I might consider making n-1 type releases open, but it is not on my agenda right now. From a development viewpoint I doubt it'll do much (anything?) to improve/speed up development cycles. Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 22, 2014, 05:09:31 AM |
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I'll need to look at dga's code to come up with a method to map relative performance; question is does dga's miner look for any 4 out of 6 or does it look for any chain (contiguous) of 4?
The formula dga's miner uses is the 1st plus any three of the remaining 5. So all other things being equal the scaling factor should be 10 (please check my numbers, red wine and all...). You'll need to multiply the p4's I report by 10 and divide by the time taken. Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 22, 2014, 01:13:35 PM |
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I am looking for people with linux running on ARM processors to try a solo miner...
Does not run on Android Linux. Unresolved library dependencies. Can you build a static executable or an executable linked to bionic? Edit: It's not only glibc, there are also a lot of undefined symbol from gmp. So a statically linked executable is needed, otherwise it will run only on your platform and nowhere else. Tried a quick -static build and well libcurl dependencies need to be resolved. I'll have some time in a few hours and will redouble my efforts! A static version has been uploaded. A minimal libcurl did the trick (was not looking forward to the Android NDK). Regards, -- bsunau7
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July 22, 2014, 01:52:25 PM |
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xpm aborts if the first number in the 6tuple is a composite (which is true most of the time), for the remaining 5 numbers the primes are counted. If I assume the search for a sixtuple in the arm miner is aborted when the first composite number is met (like in cpuminer-rminerd), you can multiply the 3ch and the 4ch numbers by about 10. This is because you have 10 choices to select 2 out of 5 (or 3 out of 5), 5!/(2!*3!) = 10.
Sorry didn't see your response. Yes a linear test of p6 chain, as soon as I fail I abort. For a solo miner it does not make sense to keep testing when you know a block can't be found, the ypool reward structure is different which is why different metrics are used. -- bsunau7
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