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Author Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com  (Read 554361 times)
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February 17, 2014, 02:41:21 AM
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Please publish a list of coins that this pool mines. No need to publish what is currently being mined.

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February 17, 2014, 03:26:48 AM
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Hopefully Terk can answer this, or someone else.

So I have invested in the new gridseed dualminers, they are the first scrypt asics on the market and in the wild.  I am just curious if all scrypt coins are the same as far as memory requirements, and if any scrypt coins pose a problem for me mining on Clevermine?  I know we don't have a list of the coins that the site mines so there is no way for me to tell if there will be any conflicts with my new mining hardware.  If anyone has any input, or can tell me if they suspect that I will have conflicts sending my hashing power towards this pool that would be appreciated.  As far as I am aware there should be no difference between the scrypt coins, but I know that some newer coins are asic resistant and my hardware would not work with them such as Vertcoin with the adaptive-N-factor.  

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I do not think it will be a problem, I am not absolutely sure but I think mining Vertcoin requires that you input a different command at cgminer.

At the vertcoin thread you can see it requires you to donwload a different cgminer

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404364.0

Maybe Terk can clarify.

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February 17, 2014, 04:05:44 AM
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The sites looks great but you might as well straight out mine DOGE for the time being.
.00000230 * 5000 DOGE/1000 KH/s = 0.0115BTC/day per MH/s
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February 17, 2014, 04:07:35 AM
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requesting asian based server pls, HK or Singapore perhaps ??

cheers.

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February 17, 2014, 05:45:42 AM
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I so want this to work; I like the site and I have tried mining with my 7950 twice. But the rejection rate is really ridiculous. I mined for whole night and rejected shares were nearly 35% !
If I mine on any other profit-switching pool with SAME SETTINGS, I am getting only 5% rejection rate.
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February 17, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
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Hopefully Terk can answer this, or someone else.

So I have invested in the new gridseed dualminers, they are the first scrypt asics on the market and in the wild.  I am just curious if all scrypt coins are the same as far as memory requirements, and if any scrypt coins pose a problem for me mining on Clevermine?  I know we don't have a list of the coins that the site mines so there is no way for me to tell if there will be any conflicts with my new mining hardware.  If anyone has any input, or can tell me if they suspect that I will have conflicts sending my hashing power towards this pool that would be appreciated.  As far as I am aware there should be no difference between the scrypt coins, but I know that some newer coins are asic resistant and my hardware would not work with them such as Vertcoin with the adaptive-N-factor.  

Thanks in advance,
Poopy

Your hardware would be fine with this pool, All of Scrypt coins can be mined with Scrypt-ASIC hardwares. vertcoin needs different software and is not listed in this pool coins at all (since it is not simple scrypt).

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February 17, 2014, 06:11:55 AM
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if you guys need something to spend your bitcoins on Smiley


http://scrypt.cc?ref=baame

What exactly is this? You buy Kh's with coins and get paid? Their site isn't super informative.

yep, you pay bitcoin for k/hash and make profit Smiley
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February 17, 2014, 06:13:22 AM
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I so want this to work; I like the site and I have tried mining with my 7950 twice. But the rejection rate is really ridiculous. I mined for whole night and rejected shares were nearly 35% !
If I mine on any other profit-switching pool with SAME SETTINGS, I am getting only 5% rejection rate.

A lot people are having bad rejection rates here. There a few things left to tweak, but I believe Terk will get it sorted in due time. Instead of focusing on the rejection rates though, you should be comparing how much coin you profited over a given course of time.

I would rather have a high rejection and higher profit as opposed to having a small reject rate but less profit.

I would compare a 24hr stint at mining for Terk against mining on the other profit switching pools. It will take a few days to do the tests, but you will have irrefutable evidence at the end of the test phase that will point you to the most profitable pool for you.

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February 17, 2014, 06:19:34 AM
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I so want this to work; I like the site and I have tried mining with my 7950 twice. But the rejection rate is really ridiculous. I mined for whole night and rejected shares were nearly 35% !
If I mine on any other profit-switching pool with SAME SETTINGS, I am getting only 5% rejection rate.
A lot people are having bad rejection rates here. There a few things left to tweak, but I believe Terk will get it sorted in due time. Instead of focusing on the rejection rates though, you should be comparing how much coin you profited over a given course of time.

I would rather have a high rejection and higher profit as opposed to having a small reject rate but less profit.

I would compare a 24hr stint at mining for Terk against mining on the other profit switching pools. It will take a few days to do the tests, but you will have irrefutable evidence at the end of the test phase that will point you to the most profitable pool for you.
OK, I'll try it out and check the profits out. Thanks!
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February 17, 2014, 06:37:36 AM
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A lot of talk about high reject ratios here, and a few that mention "Rejected untracked stratum share".
I am using sgminer, and getting a LOT of "Rejected untracked stratum share". I notice that those don't seem to count towards the normal R: % number for my GPU, so I left the miner to run to investigate what the stats will look like on the server.

The stats on the server seem to indicate that those strange rejects are not actually rejects, and the shares are getting accepted correctly! And I have <3% reject ratio on middlecoin and wafflepool, with exactly the same settings in sgminer, so it can't be something too wrong on my end.

Here are the relevant messages getting if I turn on verbose mode in sgminer:

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[01:16:33] Rejected untracked stratum share from Pool 0
[01:16:33] Unknown stratum msg: {"error": null, "id": 0, "result": [["mining.notify", "***ID REMOVED FOR PRIVACY***"], "00005725", 4]}

which looks to be coming from the following stack:
parse_stratum_response()
https://github.com/veox/sgminer/blob/master/sgminer.c#L5097
stratum_rthread()
https://github.com/veox/sgminer/blob/master/sgminer.c#L5336

And the stratum msg looks like a successful result, so either sgminer isn't parsing the message correctly, or the server is sending garbage.

I can't be arsed to set up the windows environment to compile and attach a debugger to see what exactly is failing, so maybe someone else will do that with this information.

Thoughts?
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February 17, 2014, 06:39:26 AM
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A lot of talk about high reject ratios here, and a few that mention "Rejected untracked stratum share".
I am using sgminer, and getting a LOT of "Rejected untracked stratum share". I notice that those don't seem to count towards the normal R: % number for my GPU, so I left the miner to run to investigate what the stats will look like on the server.

The stats on the server seem to indicate that those strange rejects are not actually rejects, and the shares are getting accepted correctly! And I have <3% reject ratio on middlecoin and wafflepool, with exactly the same settings in sgminer, so it can't be something too wrong on my end.

Here are the relevant messages getting if I turn on verbose mode in sgminer:

Code:
[01:16:33] Rejected untracked stratum share from Pool 0
[01:16:33] Unknown stratum msg: {"error": null, "id": 0, "result": [["mining.notify", "***ID REMOVED FOR PRIVACY***"], "00005725", 4]}

which looks to be coming from the following stack:
parse_stratum_response()
https://github.com/veox/sgminer/blob/master/sgminer.c#L5097
stratum_rthread()
https://github.com/veox/sgminer/blob/master/sgminer.c#L5336

And the stratum msg looks like a successful result, so either sgminer isn't parsing the message correctly, or the server is sending garbage.

I can't be arsed to set up the windows environment to compile and attach a debugger to see what exactly is failing, so maybe someone else will do that with this information.

Thoughts?
i think owner should establish extra europe server to load balance!
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February 17, 2014, 06:42:18 AM
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@mchron, look at the below definition quoted earlier in this thread regarding the "Rejected untracked stratum share" error, perhaps this could help.

@Terk I get very frequently a message from cgminer that says "Rejected untracked stratum share from pool 0"
Is this normal? I tried to lower the intensity as recommended on various posts but it does not solve.


When cgminer sends shares via stratum, it does not send the share and then wait for the response as this might slow down the sending of other shares. This means that the response back from the pool is processed separately from the share submission (to make the most of a truly multithreaded environment). However there is never a guarantee that the responses come back in the same order you send them. So cgminer stores a copy of each share as it sends it to the server in its own local database of submitted shares. When it gets a response back about that share from the pool, it deletes the copy of that share. Now stratum is meant to be an uninterrupted connection to the pool, and if you lose that connection, it is assumed that your "session" is no longer valid. So if you send some shares and get disconnected before you get a response, cgminer has to assume that those shares have been lost - otherwise it may end up keeping copies of heaps of shares that it will never get a response to and wastes memory. If you manage to reconnect, sometimes the pool will actually tell you "oh by the way those shares are ok" - however cgminer has now thrown out the record of what those shares were and can only say that the pool said a share was accepted or rejected. Then cgminer just says it's an "untracked share"." (c) ckolivas


i think owner should establish extra europe server to load balance!

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February 17, 2014, 07:43:34 AM
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Interface looks great, Pointed one of my mining rigs here to see how it goes  Smiley
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February 17, 2014, 08:04:40 AM
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How long does it usually take until a miner shows?

Been 20 minutes and cannot see any details?

BTC address: 15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a
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February 17, 2014, 08:13:56 AM
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How long does it usually take until a miner shows?

Been 20 minutes and cannot see any details?

BTC address: 15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a

1 hour.
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February 17, 2014, 08:15:37 AM
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How long does it usually take until a miner shows?

Been 20 minutes and cannot see any details?

BTC address: 15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a

Your stats will show after 1 hour, thereafter you'll see updates every 10 minutes if you scroll down to the "Realtime Hashrate Stats"

http://www.clevermining.com/users/15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a
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February 17, 2014, 09:11:41 AM
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Is pool down?

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February 17, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
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Is pool down?

It's working for me. But 50 percent of rejects!  Huh
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February 17, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
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Neat concept  Grin

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February 17, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
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I'm sorry for the bad english but it's not my native language!
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