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Question: In light of the GitHub incident, would you like to stage a relaunch? [POLL CLOSED]
Yes, I lost coins due to the pool bug
I don't care, I just want more pools to be there at launch
Yes, I think the developer is a scammer, and this would prove otherwise
Yes (other)
No, it works fine now so leave it
No, I don't think it's relevant given the small number of coins mined
No, I think the developer has his s**t together now
No (other)

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February 19, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
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I believe this could be a long term coin - relaunch isn't necessary and wouldn't practically benefit anyone economically. It could make things clearer and fairer but I think it's enough it works now.

So, is  http://syncoin.hashrapid.com/ only working not-offical pool now? I see 4 miners there at the moment.

There is also cheaper http://syn.hashstrike.com/  with 0% fee but it's completely empty.  We need more miners to pools, do we?

I have been mining all the time in official pool @ 0.8 Mhash/s and I have about 20 SYN now.

Congratulations! You have 20 coins out of 250,000,000,000.
You are really a big stakeholder. Keeping mining.

that's EXACTLY why there is no need for a relaunch nobody has more than probably couple of hundred coins....there are 250BILLION   the blocks are tiny, probably in 1 month the number of coins in 1 block will be more than has been mined so far.

DEVS just get on with promoting this coin and doing something with it. Relaunch not needed.  Just put your effort into doing other things for the coin.
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If you still think that your coin need relaunch why are we mining right now? We are losing our electricity and power for nothing.  

I personally DON'T, but if the majority of the community will not be part of SynCoin without a re-launch, that's the voted choice to do.

My vote disappeared. It was No(other).
I'm just stop my miner on your coin and I'm waiting decision. If I continue I may lose about 16 hours.


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No I cannot vote twice. Maybe my vote was moved on some of other options which you added later, because I voted on start of poll.

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February 19, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
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I believe this could be a long term coin - relaunch isn't necessary and wouldn't practically benefit anyone economically. It could make things clearer and fairer but I think it's enough it works now.

So, is  http://syncoin.hashrapid.com/ only working not-offical pool now? I see 4 miners there at the moment.

There is also cheaper http://syn.hashstrike.com/  with 0% fee but it's completely empty.  We need more miners to pools, do we?

I have been mining all the time in official pool @ 0.8 Mhash/s and I have about 20 SYN now.

Congratulations! You have 20 coins out of 250,000,000,000.
You are really a big stakeholder. Keeping mining.

that's EXACTLY why there is no need for a relaunch nobody has more than probably couple of hundred coins....there are 250BILLION   the blocks are tiny, probably in 1 month the number of coins in 1 block will be more than has been mined so far.

DEVS just get on with promoting this coin and doing something with it. Relaunch not needed.  Just put your effort into doing other things for the coin.
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If you still think that your coin need relaunch why are we mining right now? We are losing our electricity and power for nothing.  

I personally DON'T, but if the majority of the community will not be part of SynCoin without a re-launch, that's the voted choice to do.


are you even looking at the same poll as myself?? i see the Majority say NO.

Besides for a change to take place you need more than one vote more, i mean it will be pretty close ................and after all the only people shouting yes are clueless and have no grasp of how small 9 coins per block is from 250 BILLION minting.... like someone said the average miner here probably missed out on average 5 coins so far.

Ignore the relaunch fools, even after relaunch when they see they get practically no coins at the start and their wallets don't over flow with millions of coins, the will leave anyway.

I mean the poll is flawed anyway.... i see no restriction to those voting that were on the launch?Huh of course anyone else turning up who were sleeping on launch will vote for relaunch anyway since they will think they missed out..... the Poll is totally flawed. If you restricted it to people that could prove they were there at launch that is different.

This coin will probably Never get popular because it is not a money making scheme it is the basis of a stable currency.  Reminds me of Elacoin in some ways, it was way ahead of its time and did not get popular.

If this does not get popular, then just go ahead and make an instamining scam coin like top coin, leaf coin, .....any coin with huge block rewards that get cut in half in a couple of days.............that will go down a treat on here with most people.

This poll is changing pretty frequently, hitting that 50/50 mark very often. But your argument that those who don't like it are probably not a good target audience is really persuasive. I guess your analysis has shown that they are looking for things that don't make sense -- and are effectively resistant to change because it feels different.

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February 19, 2014, 02:48:58 PM
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I believe this could be a long term coin - relaunch isn't necessary and wouldn't practically benefit anyone economically. It could make things clearer and fairer but I think it's enough it works now.

So, is  http://syncoin.hashrapid.com/ only working not-offical pool now? I see 4 miners there at the moment.

There is also cheaper http://syn.hashstrike.com/  with 0% fee but it's completely empty.  We need more miners to pools, do we?

I have been mining all the time in official pool @ 0.8 Mhash/s and I have about 20 SYN now.

Congratulations! You have 20 coins out of 250,000,000,000.
You are really a big stakeholder. Keeping mining.

that's EXACTLY why there is no need for a relaunch nobody has more than probably couple of hundred coins....there are 250BILLION   the blocks are tiny, probably in 1 month the number of coins in 1 block will be more than has been mined so far.

DEVS just get on with promoting this coin and doing something with it. Relaunch not needed.  Just put your effort into doing other things for the coin.
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If you still think that your coin need relaunch why are we mining right now? We are losing our electricity and power for nothing.  

I personally DON'T, but if the majority of the community will not be part of SynCoin without a re-launch, that's the voted choice to do.

hey stop panicking... I was affected by the weird start as well... we're at block 390 atm, the hashrate is growing... still.. too late for a relaunch imho.

So people -- STAY CALM AND MINE.

to request a relaunch AT BLOCK 300 stinks..

also with that vote, you CANT LIMIT VOTING TO US, THE EARLY ADOPTERS, WHO STARTED WITH A COIN.

so the voting result itself give you a wrong numbers imho.

if the people who came HERE TO THIS VERY THREAD can vote for a relaunch.. what is that all about?

Hmm, give me three good reasons why I should prevent them from voting for a relaunch and I'll consider taking down the poll.

I gave you that.

a) we, the early adopters, were beaten by the (not for a local standards as) bad launch, but the voting is not limited to us... so you gave an opportunity to a NEW people to twist the voting to their interests. And the relaunch is well in their interest Smiley They can ONLY GAIN.

b) as you could mention, the original voting (with suspected larger proportion of early adopters) was more balanced towards KEEPING THE CURRENT CHAIN

c) I think new people, who missed the train, or were too lazy to get up early.. WILL ALMOST ALWAYS VOTE FOR RELAUNCH. I've seen that several times.

d) stop bashing yourself.. you're apologized enough.. now you're only feeding crowd psychosis.
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February 19, 2014, 02:49:32 PM
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syncoin,

I managed to get the p2pool up and running after some a few minutes of trying,
and seems to be working fine. (Block-time estimate is at 4-5 hours though?)

Now when looking at the graphs my 'local pool speed' is 53%, the 'global pool speed' is at 47%.
So am I one of two people who managed to get p2pool running, or did I do something wrong here?

(I find it a bit hard to believe that no one (Ok, one person) else set up a p2pool of his own...)
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February 19, 2014, 02:50:31 PM
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I believe this could be a long term coin - relaunch isn't necessary and wouldn't practically benefit anyone economically. It could make things clearer and fairer but I think it's enough it works now.

So, is  http://syncoin.hashrapid.com/ only working not-offical pool now? I see 4 miners there at the moment.

There is also cheaper http://syn.hashstrike.com/  with 0% fee but it's completely empty.  We need more miners to pools, do we?

I have been mining all the time in official pool @ 0.8 Mhash/s and I have about 20 SYN now.

Congratulations! You have 20 coins out of 250,000,000,000.
You are really a big stakeholder. Keeping mining.

that's EXACTLY why there is no need for a relaunch nobody has more than probably couple of hundred coins....there are 250BILLION   the blocks are tiny, probably in 1 month the number of coins in 1 block will be more than has been mined so far.

DEVS just get on with promoting this coin and doing something with it. Relaunch not needed.  Just put your effort into doing other things for the coin.
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If you still think that your coin need relaunch why are we mining right now? We are losing our electricity and power for nothing.  

I personally DON'T, but if the majority of the community will not be part of SynCoin without a re-launch, that's the voted choice to do.

My vote disappeared. It was No(other).
I'm just stop my miner on your coin and I'm waiting decision. If I continue I may lose about 16 hours.


Try voting again?
No I cannot vote twice. Maybe my vote was moved on some of other options which you added later, because I voted on start of poll.

Ahh, I know what happened. The option got shifted up (so your vote still counted).

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February 19, 2014, 02:50:43 PM
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我觉得开发商是一个骗子Yes, I think the developer is a scammer, and this would prove otherwise    11 (16.7%)

Yep, that's one reason that a lot of people are voting "yes". And it's not bad, because my rapsheet would be cleared.
But at the cost of everyone's coins mined already.

I have 750 coins at the moment... in case of chain reset, I do expect from those who voted YES, to replenish my SIN wallet  Roll Eyes

Haha hopefully they're prepared for that, lest they face your fury Tongue

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February 19, 2014, 02:51:35 PM
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I believe this could be a long term coin - relaunch isn't necessary and wouldn't practically benefit anyone economically. It could make things clearer and fairer but I think it's enough it works now.

So, is  http://syncoin.hashrapid.com/ only working not-offical pool now? I see 4 miners there at the moment.

There is also cheaper http://syn.hashstrike.com/  with 0% fee but it's completely empty.  We need more miners to pools, do we?

I have been mining all the time in official pool @ 0.8 Mhash/s and I have about 20 SYN now.

Congratulations! You have 20 coins out of 250,000,000,000.
You are really a big stakeholder. Keeping mining.

that's EXACTLY why there is no need for a relaunch nobody has more than probably couple of hundred coins....there are 250BILLION   the blocks are tiny, probably in 1 month the number of coins in 1 block will be more than has been mined so far.

DEVS just get on with promoting this coin and doing something with it. Relaunch not needed.  Just put your effort into doing other things for the coin.
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If you still think that your coin need relaunch why are we mining right now? We are losing our electricity and power for nothing.  

I personally DON'T, but if the majority of the community will not be part of SynCoin without a re-launch, that's the voted choice to do.

hey stop panicking... I was affected by the weird start as well... we're at block 390 atm, the hashrate is growing... still.. too late for a relaunch imho.

So people -- STAY CALM AND MINE.

to request a relaunch AT BLOCK 300 stinks..

also with that vote, you CANT LIMIT VOTING TO US, THE EARLY ADOPTERS, WHO STARTED WITH A COIN.

so the voting result itself give you a wrong numbers imho.

if the people who came HERE TO THIS VERY THREAD can vote for a relaunch.. what is that all about?

Hmm, give me three good reasons why I should prevent them from voting for a relaunch and I'll consider taking down the poll.

I gave you that.

a) we, the early adopters, were beaten by the (not for a local standards as) bad launch, but the voting is not limited to us... so you gave an opportunity to a NEW people to twist the voting to their interests. And the relaunch is well in their interest Smiley They can ONLY GAIN.

b) as you could mention, the original voting (with suspected larger proportion of early adopters) was more balanced towards KEEPING THE CURRENT CHAIN

c) I think new people, who missed the train, or were too lazy to get up early.. WILL ALMOST ALWAYS VOTE FOR RELAUNCH. I've seen that several times.

d) stop bashing yourself.. you're apologized enough.. now you're only feeding crowd psychosis.

A) I suppose that's true. It's a selfish action.

B) Hmm, right -- though that changes a lot.

C) Really? Has that happened with other coins?

D) Aww, thanks. I just feel awful.

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February 19, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
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February 19, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
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I'm out if this coin will be re-launch... this is becoming a joke...

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February 19, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
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syncoin,

I managed to get the p2pool up and running after some a few minutes of trying,
and seems to be working fine. (Block-time estimate is at 4-5 hours though?)

Now when looking at the graphs my 'local pool speed' is 53%, the 'global pool speed' is at 47%.
So am I one of two people who managed to get p2pool running, or did I do something wrong here?

(I find it a bit hard to believe that no one (Ok, one person) else set up a p2pool of his own...)

P2Pool is set on PERSIST=False, so they can't connect to each other. I'll investigate the issue.

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February 19, 2014, 02:53:59 PM
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I'm out if this coin will be re-launch... this is becoming a joke...

Don't forget to vote "NO" above for the poll to reflect that.

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February 19, 2014, 02:54:55 PM
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C) Really? Has that happened with other coins?

of course. People over here are whining about relaunches all the time.

hey.. if there was block 5000 when the pool properly started this morning, I'd consider a relaunch.

but NEVER at block 300... that's perverse.
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February 19, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
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Those of you who say the 'few paltry coins we have don't matter' should put your money where your mouth is. Distribute those 'meaningless' coins among the rest of the community, evenly, since they don't matter. Ah, but you believe they do matter. Exactly why a re launch needs to happen. That is, if the coin is intended to be taken seriously as a long term currency, actually useable to purchase goods and services, and not just as a means to 'get rich quick' for those lucky enough to scrape some up on the aborted release night.
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February 19, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
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SYN failure
We will lead the Chinese region collected immediately launched two coins

RabbitCoin

[BELI] BELI!

I wouldn't say failure just yet, my friend. RabbitCoin is going to taste delicious.

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February 19, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
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Those of you who say the 'few paltry coins we have don't matter' should put your money where your mouth is. Distribute those 'meaningless' coins among the rest of the community, evenly, since they don't matter. Ah, but you believe they do matter. Exactly why a re launch needs to happen. That is, if the coin is intended to be taken seriously as a long term currency, actually useable to purchase goods and services, and not just as a means to 'get rich quick' for those lucky enough to scrape some up on the aborted release night.

I think their argument is more so that the blockchain is still very young by comparison with the much higher coin limit. I'm sure they'd be willing to throw a few coins in a faucet somewhere. I know I would.

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February 19, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
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I'm out if this coin will be re-launch... this is becoming a joke...

Don't forget to vote "NO" above for the poll to reflect that.

Look at MaxCoin, worst launch in history... and what now? it is one of the most popular coin... a few problems at the beginning doesn't mean that you have to re-launch! if you relaunch, this  will be a HUGE hit to your reputation and coin's reputation!

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February 19, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
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I don't understand why the reward is so small with 250 billion of coins. Does anyone have any calculations on how much time it will take to mine at least 10% of coins with a reasonable net hashrate? Like 500MH\s total?

Coin is meant to be long-term, hence my vote for no-relaunch.

1 year in the Crypto world is like 10 years in real life. There is no point in making a coin for more than 2 years, it won't be the next Bitcoin, don't even try, there is not enough money in the world to do that. Also, do you realize that without early adopters, there will be much less motivation to create hype for the coin? Not to mention that with the current system there is no sense to mine at start because in a month you will be able to get a few times more coins per block, which will lead to price decrease. So this is pretty much a gamble, an experiment. Experiments should end as fast as possible to give people the answer if it works or not. In my opinion, maximum amount of coins should be like 10 times less. Or block generation time should be reduced to 2 minutes instead of 4.

Speaking about relaunch, if you are willing to change code in some way, then relaunch is necessary. If you want to leave it this way, oh well, it's your business, there is no sense to make a relaunch then, people don't have any coins anyway.

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February 19, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
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QUESTION: If I were to ensure more pools would be for SynCoin by the end of today [EST], would those who voted Yes because pools change over to No?

 your poll is totally insane

90% of people on this board were not here at launch, of course they see this poll and will vote yes.

THIS POLL IS NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE AT LAUNCH. The fact you can not work this out worries me that you did not create this coin and are not the dev.

Also the yes vote even now is smaller than the NO vote.

Get rid of this poll and use your time doing something useful for the coin.

The only people voting yes for a relaunch will be

1. those who think they missed out on millions of coins but in fact will see they missed out on max 5-20 coins.
2. those that were not even awake or here at launch

the biggest problem with this coin is it is ahead of it's time..............reminds me of elacoin...... devs that are ahead of their time always create unpopular coins. The crowd wants instamine insta profits.... these coins do not give that.

they create stable currency which by its nature does not reward only a few with big profits.

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February 19, 2014, 02:58:06 PM
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C) Really? Has that happened with other coins?

of course. People over here are whining about relaunches all the time.

hey.. if there was block 5000 when the pool properly started this morning, I'd consider a relaunch.

but NEVER at block 300... that's perverse.

I see... so you're saying the blockchain is still much too small at this point to have been a big problem.

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February 19, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
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Those of you who say the 'few paltry coins we have don't matter' should put your money where your mouth is. Distribute those 'meaningless' coins among the rest of the community, evenly, since they don't matter. Ah, but you believe they do matter. Exactly why a re launch needs to happen. That is, if the coin is intended to be taken seriously as a long term currency, actually useable to purchase goods and services, and not just as a means to 'get rich quick' for those lucky enough to scrape some up on the aborted release night.

bullsh*t. only 300 blocks with FEW coins were mined.

with relaunching, you'd erode the credibility even more (dev overreacting to a crazy people on this forum).

btw: at least we're not forked atm.
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