[NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.---

[Porte]

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016,  and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.

Thank you very much patmast3r to show me how to do it, please see below, let me know if its ok or you require anything else

http://picpaste.com/pics/16-4JDYa2uQ.1392719720.png

[skylartomstrom]

Hi there,

I just noticed I got marked with "Duplicated Hash."  Could any one of you explain to me what's going on?  I'm located on Thread 1, Position No. 1094.

Does it mean someone steal my Hash?  Where can I find the Hash Check spreadsheet for Thread 1??

Please get back to me and let me know asap.  I did sent the money, so I can certainly prove I'm the sender.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes this means that someone (or you ) has stolen that hash. You can provide proof of your ownership via a new transaction from the same address with a very small amount or by providing a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

Hi pat,

I found the thread 1 hash check.  It shows that SchlockHolmes and skylartomstrom have same HASH.  And it also says I'm the possible owner.

Well, I just sent 0.0002 BTC to prove that Im the legit owner from my bitcoin address: 1Jg7stgF3cor9e1CTq8ox5PKMAw3MNcUHN, which as you can see, is linked to transaction id: 55c9245283dea2ff97e4addc01bff0b78b59f629a8839fcc412d8632d6bfc63c.

Please remove Duplicate Hash tag from my name. Thanks

[patmast3r]

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016,  and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.

Thank you very much patmast3r to show me how to do it, please see below, let me know if its ok or you require anything else

http://picpaste.com/pics/16-4JDYa2uQ.1392719720.png

SOLVED: Porte is legit. I added a comment in the stakeholderlist.

[patmast3r]

Hi there,

I just noticed I got marked with "Duplicated Hash."  Could any one of you explain to me what's going on?  I'm located on Thread 1, Position No. 1094.

Does it mean someone steal my Hash?  Where can I find the Hash Check spreadsheet for Thread 1??

Please get back to me and let me know asap.  I did sent the money, so I can certainly prove I'm the sender.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes this means that someone (or you ) has stolen that hash. You can provide proof of your ownership via a new transaction from the same address with a very small amount or by providing a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

Hi pat,

I found the thread 1 hash check.  It shows that SchlockHolmes and skylartomstrom have same HASH.  And it also says I'm the possible owner.

Well, I just sent 0.0002 BTC to prove that Im the legit owner from my bitcoin address: 1Jg7stgF3cor9e1CTq8ox5PKMAw3MNcUHN, which as you can see, is linked to transaction id: 55c9245283dea2ff97e4addc01bff0b78b59f629a8839fcc412d8632d6bfc63c.

Please remove Duplicate Hash tag from my name. Thanks

SOLVED: Skylar is legit. I added a comment to the stakeholderlist.

[skylartomstrom]

Hi there,

I just noticed I got marked with "Duplicated Hash."  Could any one of you explain to me what's going on?  I'm located on Thread 1, Position No. 1094.

Does it mean someone steal my Hash?  Where can I find the Hash Check spreadsheet for Thread 1??

Please get back to me and let me know asap.  I did sent the money, so I can certainly prove I'm the sender.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes this means that someone (or you ) has stolen that hash. You can provide proof of your ownership via a new transaction from the same address with a very small amount or by providing a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

Hi pat,

I found the thread 1 hash check.  It shows that SchlockHolmes and skylartomstrom have same HASH.  And it also says I'm the possible owner.

Well, I just sent 0.0002 BTC to prove that Im the legit owner from my bitcoin address: 1Jg7stgF3cor9e1CTq8ox5PKMAw3MNcUHN, which as you can see, is linked to transaction id: 55c9245283dea2ff97e4addc01bff0b78b59f629a8839fcc412d8632d6bfc63c.

Please remove Duplicate Hash tag from my name. Thanks

SOLVED: Skylar is legit. I added a comment to the stakeholderlist.

Thank you very much! Really appreciate the effort!

[studyjava]

Hi utopianfuture,

I checked the google document and found my account is blank without Y. May I know the reason?
I checked the transaction ID: 3c490aaf3f3d41b2b04459741211a826b80a3920b17d2b9a4059d7fed7f1f2be
which has been transferred to account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ

Please check it for me.

Thank you very much

[patmast3r]

Hi utopianfuture,

I checked the google document and found my account is blank without Y. May I know the reason?
I checked the transaction ID: 3c490aaf3f3d41b2b04459741211a826b80a3920b17d2b9a4059d7fed7f1f2be
which has been transferred to account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ

Please check it for me.

Thank you very much

Plz provide a link to your original post.

[Sergey_A]

Dear admins,
My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey

[studyjava]

Hi utopianfuture,

I checked the google document and found my account is blank without Y. May I know the reason?
I checked the transaction ID: 3c490aaf3f3d41b2b04459741211a826b80a3920b17d2b9a4059d7fed7f1f2be
which has been transferred to account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ

Please check it for me.

Thank you very much

Plz provide a link to your original post.

@patmast3r
Please see the below link for IPO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5160372#msg5160372

[patmast3r]

Dear admins,
My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey

I added a comment to the stakeholder list. if your hash turns out to be unique during auditing you're all set.

[patmast3r]

Hi utopianfuture,

I checked the google document and found my account is blank without Y. May I know the reason?
I checked the transaction ID: 3c490aaf3f3d41b2b04459741211a826b80a3920b17d2b9a4059d7fed7f1f2be
which has been transferred to account 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ

Please check it for me.

Thank you very much

Plz provide a link to your original post.

@patmast3r
Please see the below link for IPO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5160372#msg5160372

I've added a comment in the stakeholderlist. If your hash is unique you'll be cleared.

[parallel38]

I sent 40 nxt and posted relevant information in page 42 of the first thread (link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4686582#msg4686582)

but when i looked at the stakeholder list i saw that my name didn't have a Y behind it.

link to blockchain explorer: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=3909252813797837342

what should i do to confirm that it is my account?

when will this be addressed? thanks.

@Utopian: The TX seems legit so please give him a "Y". The timstamps however do not correlate so he should be check for duplicate hash during auditing of thread 2.

Why do the time stamps not correlate? I'm in GMT + 1 and forum time is in GMT, so I actually posted 20 mins after the transaction, no?

Anyway, I can also upload a screen shot if that would be of any help.

Thanks.

[dx5]

Omg, thank you so much.

The stakeholder’s thread part 2 is locked so I’m going to post the new transaction here:

Transaction id: 717416350018551582

I decided to get NXT since I’m really not trusting sending Bitcoins. Extreme nervousness. So instead of sending .04 Bitcoins, I sent the 400 asked NXT for page 14. It took me an hour and a half, and at one point I thought I lost it, but it all went through.

Thank  you.

Transaction id: 717416350018551582

[patmast3r]

Omg, thank you so much.

The stakeholder’s thread part 2 is locked so I’m going to post the new transaction here:

Transaction id: 717416350018551582

I decided to get NXT since I’m really not trusting sending Bitcoins. Extreme nervousness. So instead of sending .04 Bitcoins, I sent the 400 asked NXT for page 14. It took me an hour and a half, and at one point I thought I lost it, but it all went through.

Thank  you.

Transaction id: 717416350018551582

I've added a comment in the stakeholderlist you should be cleared. Thanks.

[patmast3r]

I sent 40 nxt and posted relevant information in page 42 of the first thread (link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4686582#msg4686582)

but when i looked at the stakeholder list i saw that my name didn't have a Y behind it.

link to blockchain explorer: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=3909252813797837342

what should i do to confirm that it is my account?

when will this be addressed? thanks.

@Utopian: The TX seems legit so please give him a "Y". The timstamps however do not correlate so he should be check for duplicate hash during auditing of thread 2.

Why do the time stamps not correlate? I'm in GMT + 1 and forum time is in GMT, so I actually posted 20 mins after the transaction, no?

Anyway, I can also upload a screen shot if that would be of any help.

Thanks.

It's not necessary. We have to check for a duplicate hash anyway for every user so the timestamp thing was just proforma. You'll be fine and if someone took your hash then it's time for a screenshot . Thanks.

[hostmaster]

Nice.
I do hope you have dev skills to improve the software-to-be by yourself.
And that a big part of the money you receive is intended as dev bounties.
(is it?)

---

I have a wish.
I'd like to get an awesome messaging system. A priority messaging system.

For me free message is optional. (trouble of spam & oversized message flooding the blockchain size)
Should have a minimal fee to send your message.
Ideally:
- minimal fee to send a message (either divided between all in PoS, or destroyed).
- AND a minimal fee that is send to the receiver of the message.

Case scenario example: (with x = minimal fee)
Alice send a message to Bob: pay x fee & give nothing to Bob => arrive in spam imbox
Alice send a message to Bob: pay x fee & give x to Bob => arrive in general imbox
Alice send a message to Bob: pay x fee & give 2~1000 x to Bob => arrive in priority imbox, with a level system.

Point:
If I urgently need to contact you/someone, I pay 0.20~20$ and I am sure to get a quality answer ASAP.
I pay to contact you, I get pay for reading you.

Awesome if - on top of that - you manage to build an alert on regular smtp email.
(just informing "you received a message in your NEM general imbox").

Man, you are a genious. I liked so much the concept!

[calduncan1978]

Hello,

I'm one of the people whose hash got stolen by fruadster!  I'm on #1265 of thread 1.  I'm gonna send a small charge in bitcoin (btc 0.0001978) and prove that I'm the owner of the hash id in dispute: c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655.

Please wait for me!

[calduncan1978]

To whom it may concern:

I would like to prove I'm the owner of the hash code: c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655

This hash is currently listed under both Calduncan & Frogster IDs in Hash Check Thread 1 sheet. As you can see, the hash belongs to the address: 1DrmWGphVewMKbxAvgJwWXJFywFak6SMqw

Please be advised that I've sent 0.0001978 BTC with transaction id: e47e80f90be68905dc3c01e5fe73773259eb554c4cca10cf6c2169a083cd2ebe to NEM address: 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ (1978 denotes the year of my birth).

Please verify and clear me of wrongdoing.  Thank you for your help!

[patmast3r]

To whom it may concern:

I would like to prove I'm the owner of the hash code: c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655

This hash is currently listed under both Calduncan & Frogster IDs in Hash Check Thread 1 sheet. As you can see, the hash belongs to the address: 1DrmWGphVewMKbxAvgJwWXJFywFak6SMqw

Please be advised that I've sent 0.0001978 BTC with transaction id: e47e80f90be68905dc3c01e5fe73773259eb554c4cca10cf6c2169a083cd2ebe to NEM address: 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ (1978 denotes the year of my birth).

Please verify and clear me of wrongdoing.  Thank you for your help!

I added a comment to the stakeholder list. You should be alright. Thanks for providing proof.

[Porte]

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016,  and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.

Thank you very much patmast3r to show me how to do it, please see below, let me know if its ok or you require anything else

http://picpaste.com/pics/16-4JDYa2uQ.1392719720.png

SOLVED: Porte is legit. I added a comment in the stakeholderlist.

Many thanks patmast3r , I still can see myself with duplicate hash on the list, When will be update it without it, I thought you did this morning


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdG1XYWlDemNENl9IaGR5ZHNUNTNhcmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0