Minnlo
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May 24, 2014, 07:48:57 PM |
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Im not using proxy nor vpn. i dont want to play anymore i just want to withdraw my money but admin dont let me do it. please Ed let me withdraw my money.. i think this is unfair
Unless admin has strong evidence of someone was taking advantage of bugs on the site, I don't think it is acceptable to stop withdrawals just because he won big...
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sobriket
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May 24, 2014, 08:13:56 PM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
Calm down, ED has been very responsive. I'm actually happy he doesn't let people withdraw amounts this large (in comparison with the total amount invested) just like that without a manual check.
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May 24, 2014, 09:57:09 PM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount
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byt411
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May 24, 2014, 09:58:12 PM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount The money is his and he has every right to have it right now. Everydice had that amount in the bankroll, at least according to them.
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May 24, 2014, 10:26:50 PM |
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Edward i never thought you are gonna chicken out, give 1DiCe1 his money, he won it with risking his own money, you would not do the same if he lost, am i right? so be fair enough and let him withdraw all his balance.
and i am the one that trust you, still. i lost 70% of my investment and i don't mind him wining, i saw it and i know it was only luck. i want you to stay that good ED like you allways did.
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C.Steven
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May 24, 2014, 11:17:28 PM |
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Im not using proxy nor vpn. i dont want to play anymore i just want to withdraw my money but admin dont let me do it. please Ed let me withdraw my money.. i think this is unfair
EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
It is reasonable to have manual check on huge withdrawals and we shouldn't expect admin to be there 24/7. But IMHO 24 hours is a little bit too long... I personally wouldn't call it scam yet at this moment, but if admin is still holding his withdrawal for another day or so, I guess we have to... EDIT: fixed typos
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May 24, 2014, 11:55:31 PM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount He needs to play on a better site. Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it? It's inexcusable to delay payouts in the hope that he'll lose it back to the house.
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May 25, 2014, 12:15:48 AM |
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Wow. I was always wondering why this site was so popular with all the other dice sites with better track records and fast payouts etc. you can't play on a site that delays payouts for any reason.
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kleineaap
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May 25, 2014, 05:36:17 AM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount He needs to play on a better site. Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it? It's inexcusable to delay payouts in the hope that he'll lose it back to the house. You know well that ED has it to provide a cashout. Yet if he does, he's in deep shit, like JD also was once. Difference is that you provided the withdrawal and recovered from that somehow, while ED has no idea what to do at the moment besides stalling 1DiCe1. To the ones asking why playing on a website that delays payouts... Are you serious? I see you all on PD with no complains, waiting sometimes 14hrs for a cashout of pennies. There is a bigger issue here, an instant cashout dice site paying out - or not - 140 coins or what is it, can determine site's future for good. I might understand ED's stalling to a point, if it's related to making a decision after this withdrawal. But if these coins fail to be paid, kansas is going bye bye. I truly hope his sudden absence is real and not related to this story, and that 1DiCe1 gets his deserved coins. I can't put up with another bullshit bitcoin artist if it actually ends up that way.
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everydice (OP)
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May 25, 2014, 05:41:41 AM |
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Im not using proxy nor vpn. i dont want to play anymore i just want to withdraw my money but admin dont let me do it. please Ed let me withdraw my money.. i think this is unfair
Unless admin has strong evidence of someone was taking advantage of bugs on the site, I don't think it is acceptable to stop withdrawals just because he won big... Wow. I was always wondering why this site was so popular with all the other dice sites with better track records and fast payouts etc. you can't play on a site that delays payouts for any reason.
ED implemented withdrawal algorithm that check how much an account had deposited and how much percentage he won (player who deposit more in the last 24h will be able to withdraw more), except than this, it is instant cashout. We implemented this feature after the player1 and noana case ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476334.msg5581092;topicseen#msg5581092). Tl;dr, someone did exploit ED in the early days, ED recover the investors' loses by those time and add the limitation feature immediately. >95% of the case player are able to withdraw successfully, the rest are investors which I don't usually need to check and just withdraw immediately, and also very lucky player. So far in our history there are two lucky case, one is Mattyon (successfully withdrawn) and the current case is 1DiCe1, which we still checking the eligibility. It is not about the amount wins, but about the percentage of such case happening. Which in this case is even higher than Nakowa's JD. There is also thousands of bets, hopefully this is acceptable for us to pending the withdrawal for a moment to ensure that everything is valid. Please note that it is also investors money, ED got profit on either wining or losing bet. Also we did have sent 50 BTC to 1DiCe1 for his previous winning ( https://blockchain.info/tx/c32983d205ee902fb90628a1bbbd31ef2c290809e76e32cdf79d572ecdb3521b), hopefully it is one prove that we tried to be as fair as possible while doing our best to keep the site alive.
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kleineaap
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May 25, 2014, 05:48:51 AM |
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He needs to play on a better site.
Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it?
While I agree that you must pay with no delay, double checking those stats might be good. Is JD really making multiple 100BTC payouts every single day? JD is a great site, had some awesome stories, great volume, beautiful history. Yet 1DiCe1 himself said it just looks sad and grey. I kinda agree.
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kleineaap
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May 25, 2014, 05:53:45 AM |
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Im not using proxy nor vpn. i dont want to play anymore i just want to withdraw my money but admin dont let me do it. please Ed let me withdraw my money.. i think this is unfair
Unless admin has strong evidence of someone was taking advantage of bugs on the site, I don't think it is acceptable to stop withdrawals just because he won big... Wow. I was always wondering why this site was so popular with all the other dice sites with better track records and fast payouts etc. you can't play on a site that delays payouts for any reason.
ED implemented withdrawal algorithm that check how much an account had deposited and how much percentage he won (player who deposit more in the last 24h will be able to withdraw more), except than this, it is instant cashout. We implemented this feature after the player1 and noana case ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476334.msg5581092;topicseen#msg5581092). Tl;dr, someone did exploit ED in the early days, ED recover the investors' loses by those time and add the limitation feature immediately. >95% of the case player are able to withdraw successfully, the rest are investors which I don't usually need to check and just withdraw immediately, and also very lucky player. So far in our history there are two lucky case, one is Mattyon (successfully withdrawn) and the current case is 1DiCe1, which we still checking the eligibility. It is not about the amount wins, but about the percentage of such case happening. Which in this case is even higher than Nakowa's JD. There is also thousands of bets, hopefully this is acceptable for us to pending the withdrawal for a moment to ensure that everything is valid. Please note that it is also investors money, ED got profit on either wining or losing bet. Also we did have sent 50 BTC to 1DiCe1 for his previous winning ( https://blockchain.info/tx/c32983d205ee902fb90628a1bbbd31ef2c290809e76e32cdf79d572ecdb3521b), hopefully it is one prove that we tried to be as fair as possible while doing our best to keep the site alive. I hope you get to your senses and understand you can't hold somebody else's coins. Looks and sounds fishy what this administration is doing by disabling a winner's cashout. I understand you need to check bets, running balances, probabilities, etc. Something that does not take that long. 1DiCe1 won't go back on gambling until he's paid, that's my belief. Investing in the site won't change that as well. Hope to see this figured out soon. And good luck.
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May 25, 2014, 06:15:41 AM |
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Im not using proxy nor vpn. i dont want to play anymore i just want to withdraw my money but admin dont let me do it. please Ed let me withdraw my money.. i think this is unfair
Unless admin has strong evidence of someone was taking advantage of bugs on the site, I don't think it is acceptable to stop withdrawals just because he won big... Wow. I was always wondering why this site was so popular with all the other dice sites with better track records and fast payouts etc. you can't play on a site that delays payouts for any reason.
ED implemented withdrawal algorithm that check how much an account had deposited and how much percentage he won (player who deposit more in the last 24h will be able to withdraw more), except than this, it is instant cashout. We implemented this feature after the player1 and noana case ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476334.msg5581092;topicseen#msg5581092). Tl;dr, someone did exploit ED in the early days, ED recover the investors' loses by those time and add the limitation feature immediately. >95% of the case player are able to withdraw successfully, the rest are investors which I don't usually need to check and just withdraw immediately, and also very lucky player. So far in our history there are two lucky case, one is Mattyon (successfully withdrawn) and the current case is 1DiCe1, which we still checking the eligibility. It is not about the amount wins, but about the percentage of such case happening. Which in this case is even higher than Nakowa's JD. There is also thousands of bets, hopefully this is acceptable for us to pending the withdrawal for a moment to ensure that everything is valid. Please note that it is also investors money, ED got profit on either wining or losing bet. Also we did have sent 50 BTC to 1DiCe1 for his previous winning ( https://blockchain.info/tx/c32983d205ee902fb90628a1bbbd31ef2c290809e76e32cdf79d572ecdb3521b), hopefully it is one prove that we tried to be as fair as possible while doing our best to keep the site alive. You should provide the coins to a trusted escrow, the amount of 1dice1's balance and deduct it from his balance. After a reasonable time has passed the escrow releases the funds (I'd say a couple days) to 1dice1 UNLESS you provide proof that he cheated. You delaying his funds is truly unreasonable 100%. If your excuse was true then you should be working 24/7 into his case. Not getting offline and coming back every 12 hours. Should be around the clock if you are really going to delay payment. I personally played at everydice twice but after this definitely will not play ever again here. It is bullshit what you are doing. It has been 3 days. If you worked 24 hours straight I guarantee you would have your decision by now.
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May 25, 2014, 07:01:09 AM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount He needs to play on a better site. Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it? It's inexcusable to delay payouts in the hope that he'll lose it back to the house. Bitcoin websites should allow instant cash outs, 1Dice1 is probably already playing on JD, he may deposit his funds there when the cash out is cleared A 24h delay considering the sum compared to the site bankroll seems reasonable though
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kleineaap
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May 25, 2014, 07:05:52 AM |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount He needs to play on a better site. Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it? It's inexcusable to delay payouts in the hope that he'll lose it back to the house. Bitcoin websites should allow instant cash outs, 1Dice1 is probably already playing on JD, he may deposit his funds there when the cash out is cleared A 24h delay considering the sum compared to the site bankroll seems reasonable though Shut me up if I'm wrong, but I reckon 1DiCe1 won't play on JD. He will keep playing though, providing his well deserved funds is a must to the gambling community and the sake of dice integrity.
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everydice (OP)
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May 25, 2014, 07:41:34 AM |
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You should provide the coins to a trusted escrow, the amount of 1dice1's balance and deduct it from his balance. After a reasonable time has passed the escrow releases the funds (I'd say a couple days) to 1dice1 UNLESS you provide proof that he cheated. You delaying his funds is truly unreasonable 100%. If your excuse was true then you should be working 24/7 into his case. Not getting offline and coming back every 12 hours. Should be around the clock if you are really going to delay payment.
I personally played at everydice twice but after this definitely will not play ever again here. It is bullshit what you are doing. It has been 3 days. If you worked 24 hours straight I guarantee you would have your decision by now.
Checking that provably fair system is works might not take a long time, but other than that we did many things. One of the example is the leak of site seed, this not only involve technical checking and ensure our server has not been compromised, but also questioning all team member involved in the project. We cannot assume this is the case (and lets not), but it is better to be safe than sorry. As you might noticed, few hours ago the site profit goes down ~50 BTC again, this happened after some manual withdrawal. We know that the previous bet event is mathematically unrelated to the future event, so thinking that site will win after losing is fallacy, however, this is quite much for a coincidence. We are really sorry for the inconvenience, but for a moment we will have to ensure everything is legit. The roll function of P-4747 and 1DiCe1 also has been disabled.
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May 25, 2014, 07:44:18 AM |
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You should provide the coins to a trusted escrow, the amount of 1dice1's balance and deduct it from his balance. After a reasonable time has passed the escrow releases the funds (I'd say a couple days) to 1dice1 UNLESS you provide proof that he cheated. You delaying his funds is truly unreasonable 100%. If your excuse was true then you should be working 24/7 into his case. Not getting offline and coming back every 12 hours. Should be around the clock if you are really going to delay payment.
I personally played at everydice twice but after this definitely will not play ever again here. It is bullshit what you are doing. It has been 3 days. If you worked 24 hours straight I guarantee you would have your decision by now.
Checking that provably fair system is works might not take a long time, but other than that we did many things. One of the example is the leak of site seed, this not only involve technical checking and ensure our server has not been compromised, but also questioning all team member involved in the project. We cannot assume this is the case (and lets not), but it is better to be safe than sorry. As you might noticed, few hours ago the site profit goes down ~50 BTC again, this happened after some manual withdrawal. We know that the previous bet event is mathematically unrelated to the future event, so thinking that site will win after losing is fallacy, however, this is quite much for a coincidence. We are really sorry for the inconvenience, but for a moment we will have to ensure everything is legit. If it turns out there was a leak in the site, are you gonna refund old investors?
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WhatsBitcoin
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May 25, 2014, 07:51:52 AM |
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You should provide the coins to a trusted escrow, the amount of 1dice1's balance and deduct it from his balance. After a reasonable time has passed the escrow releases the funds (I'd say a couple days) to 1dice1 UNLESS you provide proof that he cheated. You delaying his funds is truly unreasonable 100%. If your excuse was true then you should be working 24/7 into his case. Not getting offline and coming back every 12 hours. Should be around the clock if you are really going to delay payment.
I personally played at everydice twice but after this definitely will not play ever again here. It is bullshit what you are doing. It has been 3 days. If you worked 24 hours straight I guarantee you would have your decision by now.
Checking that provably fair system is works might not take a long time, but other than that we did many things. One of the example is the leak of site seed, this not only involve technical checking and ensure our server has not been compromised, but also questioning all team member involved in the project. We cannot assume this is the case (and lets not), but it is better to be safe than sorry. As you might noticed, few hours ago the site profit goes down ~50 BTC again, this happened after some manual withdrawal. We know that the previous bet event is mathematically unrelated to the future event, so thinking that site will win after losing is fallacy, however, this is quite much for a coincidence. We are really sorry for the inconvenience, but for a moment we will have to ensure everything is legit. The roll function of P-4747 and 1DiCe1 also has been disabled. To instill investor confidence you are not considering running, why not entrust Dooglus or someone with the site's funds for now? The main problem here is that you are acting in a way that is very sketchy to investors and players.
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May 25, 2014, 09:12:04 AM |
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I understand ED wanting to verify everything that is going on, I had a similar situation last month (nowhere near the same amount of coin), but 3 days seems a long time now.
Maybe you would get extra help by posting all bet data of 1Dice1 publicly?
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blizeH
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May 25, 2014, 09:31:47 AM Last edit: May 25, 2014, 09:43:39 AM by blizeH |
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It would be good to have some sort of full clarification as to the situation here, I've only done some quick calculations but 1DiCe did have some near impossible results - though that's not to say he wasn't just incredibly lucky. The problem is, assuming he was incredibly lucky, stopping him from betting is just further harming the investors as there is now pretty much zero chance of getting any of the BTC back. I'm 18BTC down after all of this
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