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[cech4204a]

Edward, thats some bad PR, holding someones money, think of it...

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[dooglus]

While I agree that you must pay with no delay, double checking those stats might be good. Is JD really making multiple 100BTC payouts every single day?

I checked the logs, and no, to be honest it isn't.  Some days there aren't any >100 BTC withdrawal requests.

Here's a recent list - 19 of them in 16 days:

Thu May  8 23:05:48 2014   299.99990000
Fri May  9 18:27:37 2014   456.00000000
Sat May 10 09:21:56 2014   115.00000000
Mon May 12 04:41:54 2014   214.98521826
Mon May 12 04:47:59 2014   229.99990000
Mon May 12 12:22:40 2014   191.83990000
Mon May 12 16:03:22 2014   137.00000000
Mon May 12 16:21:24 2014   161.00000000
Mon May 12 16:46:28 2014   196.00000000
Fri May 16 11:01:50 2014   192.46322271
Sat May 17 06:26:21 2014   269.00000000
Mon May 19 19:06:15 2014   245.00000000
Tue May 20 11:24:39 2014   188.00000000
Tue May 20 13:52:08 2014   520.00000000
Tue May 20 20:23:35 2014   337.00000000
Thu May 22 14:23:43 2014   219.00000000
Fri May 23 00:37:18 2014   222.16562487
Fri May 23 08:24:14 2014   103.75190000
Sat May 24 02:37:43 2014   220.40176959

[kleineaap]

While I agree that you must pay with no delay, double checking those stats might be good. Is JD really making multiple 100BTC payouts every single day?

I checked the logs, and no, to be honest it isn't.  Some days there aren't any >100 BTC withdrawal requests.

Here's a recent list - 19 of them in 16 days:

Thu May  8 23:05:48 2014   299.99990000
Fri May  9 18:27:37 2014   456.00000000
Sat May 10 09:21:56 2014   115.00000000
Mon May 12 04:41:54 2014   214.98521826
Mon May 12 04:47:59 2014   229.99990000
Mon May 12 12:22:40 2014   191.83990000
Mon May 12 16:03:22 2014   137.00000000
Mon May 12 16:21:24 2014   161.00000000
Mon May 12 16:46:28 2014   196.00000000
Fri May 16 11:01:50 2014   192.46322271
Sat May 17 06:26:21 2014   269.00000000
Mon May 19 19:06:15 2014   245.00000000
Tue May 20 11:24:39 2014   188.00000000
Tue May 20 13:52:08 2014   520.00000000
Tue May 20 20:23:35 2014   337.00000000
Thu May 22 14:23:43 2014   219.00000000
Fri May 23 00:37:18 2014   222.16562487
Fri May 23 08:24:14 2014   103.75190000
Sat May 24 02:37:43 2014   220.40176959

Still great. Always delivering. Ed should learn something from this.

[dooglus]

One of the example is the leak of site seed, this not only involve technical checking and ensure our server has not been compromised, but also questioning all team member involved in the project.

How many people have access to the site seed?

It's a good idea to limit that number as much as possible.  The seeds are as good as money.

[dooglus]

While I agree that you must pay with no delay, double checking those stats might be good. Is JD really making multiple 100BTC payouts every single day?

I checked the logs, and no, to be honest it isn't.  Some days there aren't any >100 BTC withdrawal requests.

Here's a recent list - 19 of them in 16 days:

Thu May  8 23:05:48 2014   299.99990000
Fri May  9 18:27:37 2014   456.00000000
Sat May 10 09:21:56 2014   115.00000000
Mon May 12 04:41:54 2014   214.98521826
Mon May 12 04:47:59 2014   229.99990000
Mon May 12 12:22:40 2014   191.83990000
Mon May 12 16:03:22 2014   137.00000000
Mon May 12 16:21:24 2014   161.00000000
Mon May 12 16:46:28 2014   196.00000000
Fri May 16 11:01:50 2014   192.46322271
Sat May 17 06:26:21 2014   269.00000000
Mon May 19 19:06:15 2014   245.00000000
Tue May 20 11:24:39 2014   188.00000000
Tue May 20 13:52:08 2014   520.00000000
Tue May 20 20:23:35 2014   337.00000000
Thu May 22 14:23:43 2014   219.00000000
Fri May 23 00:37:18 2014   222.16562487
Fri May 23 08:24:14 2014   103.75190000
Sat May 24 02:37:43 2014   220.40176959

Still great. Always delivering. Ed should learn something from this.

Oh dear, it's even worse than that...  I just noticed that most of these "withdrawals" are JD sending coins offsite to my local wallet for safe keeping.

I guess the point still stands - when people request a withdrawal, we give it to them. 

[Cryptopher]

Just visited this site, looks very sleek, nice interface and presentation of statistics but when I go to the chat box (and reading the forum) I see that there is massive delays in payouts.

That's not ideal for a user, especially due to the temptation to continue playing. Reminds me of Gox...

[dooglus]

Just visited this site, looks very sleek, nice interface and presentation of statistics but when I go to the chat box (and reading the forum) I see that there is massive delays in payouts.

That's not ideal for a user, especially due to the temptation to continue playing. Reminds me of Gox...

The "Instant Cashout" in the thread topic is a little misleading.

[ruru]

We should set up an exchange where we trade EDC (EveryDiceCoin) for Real BTC.

[everydice]

Everydice owner took pains to create that superlucky 1Dice player, instead of just taking all the money and run. Apparently he still hopes to attract more idiots to invest in his site.

Careful accusing people of scamming without proof.

Is there a bet history available for the payer so we can see just how lucky he has been?

Just incase someone interested: https://everydice.com/log_1dice1.txt. For the basic check however the result is confirmed to match with our seed. More about bet detail is also available within the site.

[cech4204a]

Ed pay him out and ban him after that, so no more problems with risk, and lower max win to 0.5%

[1DiCe1]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

[ruru]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

[Cryptopher]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

[byt411]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

1Dice has 90-150BTC stuck, and I'd doubt he would accept your offer. It's less than what he put into ed.

[Cryptopher]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

1Dice has 90-150BTC stuck, and I'd doubt he would accept your offer. It's less than what he put into ed.

Precisely. The offer would have to be significantly better for it to become a serious one that would require consideration.

Is ruru a stakeholder in EveryDice? Perhaps an associate?

We would all like to wipe out a debt for a tiny fraction of the amount owed...

[ruru]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

Nope, I sustained extreme losses from this site. I just want to do a lil' arbitrage, get the rights to his account, only ask for my losses+ whatever I give him. And then I'm out of here.

The rest can go to healing investors. If ED and 1Dice do a deal on their own, it would be like ED couldn't pay out 1Dice and no one will gamble; then site withers away. ED is saying the rolls seem a little suspect with the possibility of a seed leak. After all, he's twice as lucky as Nakowa who was already a freak of nature. So, taking a bit of a financial(non fatal) hit  would be a lot better than forcing ED to run away with everyone's coins.  I'd use escrow for this deal.

If this deal actually goes through, ED can change its commision structure, reduce the max profit to 0.5%, and everyone's happy.
The most serious investors would probably pull out after this scandal.. but it may heal as time goes by.

tl;dr: I really don't give a shit, I just want my coins back.

P.S. I got the idea from Mt.Gox BTC <---> Real BTC exchanges.

[Cryptopher]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

Nope, I sustained extreme losses from this site. I just want to do a lil' arbitrage, get the rights to his account, only ask for my losses+ whatever I give him. And then I'm out of here.

The rest can go to healing investors. If ED and 1Dice do a deal on their own, it would be like ED couldn't pay out 1Dice and no one will gamble; then site withers away. ED is saying the rolls seem a little suspect with the possibility of a seed leak. After all, he's twice as lucky as Nakowa who was already a freak of nature. So, taking a bit of a financial(non fatal) hit  would be a lot better than forcing ED to run away with everyone's coins.  I'd use escrow for this deal.

If this deal actually goes through, ED can change its commision structure, reduce the max profit to 0.5%, and everyone's happy.
The most serious investors would probably pull out after this scandal.. but it may heal as time goes by.

tl;dr: I really don't give a shit, I just want my coins back.

P.S. I got the idea from Mt.Gox BTC <---> Real BTC exchanges.

And don't you feel that it will end up being the same outcome as the Gox situation? Well I suppose you do having valued those BTC as only 4 real BTC haha.

[ruru]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

Nope, I sustained extreme losses from this site. I just want to do a lil' arbitrage, get the rights to his account, only ask for my losses+ whatever I give him. And then I'm out of here.

The rest can go to healing investors. If ED and 1Dice do a deal on their own, it would be like ED couldn't pay out 1Dice and no one will gamble; then site withers away. ED is saying the rolls seem a little suspect with the possibility of a seed leak. After all, he's twice as lucky as Nakowa who was already a freak of nature. So, taking a bit of a financial(non fatal) hit  would be a lot better than forcing ED to run away with everyone's coins.  I'd use escrow for this deal.

If this deal actually goes through, ED can change its commision structure, reduce the max profit to 0.5%, and everyone's happy.
The most serious investors would probably pull out after this scandal.. but it may heal as time goes by.

tl;dr: I really don't give a shit, I just want my coins back.

P.S. I got the idea from Mt.Gox BTC <---> Real BTC exchanges.

And don't you feel that it will end up being the same outcome as the Gox situation? Well I suppose you do having valued those BTC as only 4 real BTC haha.

Before agreeing to pay for it, I'd get an escrow, like I said. Have Edward agree to my deal, then he sends 15+4 BTC, to a neutral escrow, I send 4 BTC to 1Dice, and escrow sends it to me. Bingo.

[Cryptopher]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

Nope, I sustained extreme losses from this site. I just want to do a lil' arbitrage, get the rights to his account, only ask for my losses+ whatever I give him. And then I'm out of here.

The rest can go to healing investors. If ED and 1Dice do a deal on their own, it would be like ED couldn't pay out 1Dice and no one will gamble; then site withers away. ED is saying the rolls seem a little suspect with the possibility of a seed leak. After all, he's twice as lucky as Nakowa who was already a freak of nature. So, taking a bit of a financial(non fatal) hit  would be a lot better than forcing ED to run away with everyone's coins.  I'd use escrow for this deal.

If this deal actually goes through, ED can change its commision structure, reduce the max profit to 0.5%, and everyone's happy.
The most serious investors would probably pull out after this scandal.. but it may heal as time goes by.

tl;dr: I really don't give a shit, I just want my coins back.

P.S. I got the idea from Mt.Gox BTC <---> Real BTC exchanges.

And don't you feel that it will end up being the same outcome as the Gox situation? Well I suppose you do having valued those BTC as only 4 real BTC haha.

Before agreeing to pay for it, I'd get an escrow, like I said. Have Edward agree to my deal, then he sends 15+4 BTC, to a neutral escrow, I send 4 BTC to 1Dice, and escrow sends it to me. Bingo.

So wait a second, that means that 1Dice gets 4 BTC instead of his due amount, you get the 15 bitcoins that you wanted, and Edward gets to write off a massive payout?

Seems like 1Dice would be getting screwed, you would be at evens and Edward would be dodging a bullet Matrix style.

Why doesn't Edward just send 4 BTC to 1Dice? Or even still why doesn't he send 19 BTC to him. I don't understand why you would need to be in the equation.

Perhaps I've misread something, but it doesn't appear to make sense.

[ruru]

ed, how is the progress, can i get my coins soon?

I offer to buy your account for 4 BTC if you're interested.

And reduce a massive payout to a sum that is, relatively speaking, peanuts? Seems a bit suspicious to me.

Nope, I sustained extreme losses from this site. I just want to do a lil' arbitrage, get the rights to his account, only ask for my losses+ whatever I give him. And then I'm out of here.

The rest can go to healing investors. If ED and 1Dice do a deal on their own, it would be like ED couldn't pay out 1Dice and no one will gamble; then site withers away. ED is saying the rolls seem a little suspect with the possibility of a seed leak. After all, he's twice as lucky as Nakowa who was already a freak of nature. So, taking a bit of a financial(non fatal) hit  would be a lot better than forcing ED to run away with everyone's coins.  I'd use escrow for this deal.

If this deal actually goes through, ED can change its commision structure, reduce the max profit to 0.5%, and everyone's happy.
The most serious investors would probably pull out after this scandal.. but it may heal as time goes by.

tl;dr: I really don't give a shit, I just want my coins back.

P.S. I got the idea from Mt.Gox BTC <---> Real BTC exchanges.

And don't you feel that it will end up being the same outcome as the Gox situation? Well I suppose you do having valued those BTC as only 4 real BTC haha.

Before agreeing to pay for it, I'd get an escrow, like I said. Have Edward agree to my deal, then he sends 15+4 BTC, to a neutral escrow, I send 4 BTC to 1Dice, and escrow sends it to me. Bingo.

So wait a second, that means that 1Dice gets 4 BTC instead of his due amount, you get the 15 bitcoins that you wanted, and Edward gets to write off a massive payout?

Seems like 1Dice would be getting screwed, you would be at evens and Edward would be dodging a bullet Matrix style.

Why doesn't Edward just send 4 BTC to 1Dice? Or even still why doesn't he send 19 BTC to him. I don't understand why you would need to be in the equation.

Perhaps I've misread something, but it doesn't appear to make sense.

Because the whole thing was my idea. The way things are headed,  ED will shut down with everyone's coins included. If ED does pay off 1Dice a smaller amount than owed directly, it would imply that ED can't really pay off his debts ala coinbet.cc. At least with my deal, ED can save face and say "ooh, we're legit, herpy derp". My take on this is ED didn't mean to scam. The 1% kelly created an unexpected variance that nearly destroyed the bankroll. IF he takes my deal, ED can fix things by reducing the max profit to 0.5% kelly and reworking the commission system and this shit wont happen again.