DailyModo
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March 23, 2014, 12:52:35 AM |
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Good news -
I just received a message from Jay through email saying "we can now remove the exact amounts found to be added by bots for all coins".
So I guess 80% is no more. They will just remove the automated votes!
Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him This is what happen when you think too high of your self. He thinks because he fuckin own mintpal that he doesn't have to listen to any of his members. But he forgets that his members are the one making his site a good one.
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maranello1561
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March 23, 2014, 12:55:05 AM |
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Guys, do you know what this means? All you need to do now is bot the competition and mintpal will ban them... this is like taking candy from a baby
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y3804
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March 23, 2014, 12:57:14 AM |
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Guys, do you know what this means? All you need to do now is bot the competition and mintpal will ban them... this is like taking candy from a baby
No. Now Mintpal has implemented bot detection which will remove the votes from the bots as they vote, so that strategy won't work. However, his 80% strip percentage is completely arbitrary. I asked how many bot accounts, he didn't want to answer, bot votes, didn't want to answer. He just applied the 80% to all three coins with absolutely no reasoning behind it
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MintPal-Jay
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March 23, 2014, 12:57:30 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will.
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y3804
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March 23, 2014, 01:01:03 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. Sure, but why don't you sit down and write about the 80% arbitrary percentage? I want to know WHY you don't strip MY VOTES and leave the rest. I bot voted because your system ALLOWED for it. (i.e. Was easy to bot vote. absolutely no preventive checks but 1 transaction. lmao.) and now you punish an entire community for my actions. That, I fail to understand. so fuck you Jay BTW the 2 BTC bribe was a fucking joke. I wouldnt ever give you 2BTC, Jay. I wanted to see if you would react to money making decisions
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Rraider
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March 23, 2014, 01:03:53 AM |
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LOL got caught cheating , so what do you do ? Discuss how to LOL CHEAT SOME MORE !!!!OL LOL LOL
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richiela
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March 23, 2014, 01:07:54 AM |
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You know, with the communities help, we can dethrone mintpal and their ways Cast your vote by trading at bittrex!! -R
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DailyModo
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March 23, 2014, 01:09:33 AM |
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I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. [/quote] Well it just prove that even if a member admited his wrong, you are punishing the whole community. I am done trading on mintpal personally its a good exchange but from a greedy admin. Taking advantage of this situation to punish the community in order to receive even more bitcoins on voting. What ever your trying to expose i personnaly dont care your as greedy as they come. Careless of your members thats what this story has proved.
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MinersUnion
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March 23, 2014, 01:10:44 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. I'm speechless. y3804, what have you done to us... 80% Lost because of you.
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DailyModo
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March 23, 2014, 01:12:49 AM |
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LOL got caught cheating , so what do you do ? Discuss how to LOL CHEAT SOME MORE !!!!OL LOL LOL Get back to your dying community troll lol you donated 18$ 30k votes. Sure lol
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y3804
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March 23, 2014, 01:13:52 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. I'm speechless. y3804, what have you done to us... What, am I to blame? Look, let's take this from another perspective. Let's say I wasn't the bot voter. Why would he strip 80% if the bot voter only voted ~8k times? I even tried to make him change his decision before even revealing my identity. He didn't care. Remember, this isn't about ME. It's about your votes. I personally wished for the vote counter to go a little bit faster (and it looked quite legit to) so I set a fixed 600 votes/hour. However, him stripping 80% is unacceptable. "80% lost because of you" Well, why do we lose 80% in the first place? Business decision. Mintpal owners are greedy bitches. Him only stripping my votes (because I could have done this for any coin, frankly, even PopulaceCoin) would give FAC an additional 25K votes instead of 21K votes total. Jay doesn't even want to answer to the 80% concern, even after posting the log. You're fucking ridiculous Jay.
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DailyModo
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March 23, 2014, 01:14:54 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. I'm speechless. y3804, what have you done to us... What is done is done, we cant do much about it so lets move forward. Greedy jay-mintpal wants more btc. He could easily have simply deleted the bot votes but that helps him get some more money, hes trying to act as if an ethic decision but clearly its all about business ethic doesnt exist right jay?
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Rraider
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March 23, 2014, 01:18:49 AM |
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LOL got caught cheating , so what do you do ? Discuss how to LOL CHEAT SOME MORE !!!!OL LOL LOL Get back to your dying community troll lol you donated 18$ 30k votes. Sure lol ok
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sin242
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March 23, 2014, 01:19:22 AM |
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Glad to see Jay is watching this thread.
Now that things have come to light maybe there's a chance at a resolution that would make everyone happy. Clearly faircoin had some unfair voting behind it however i'm sure Jay can see the coin has strong backing both from the reaction here and from earlier in the thread. Perhaps if the rest of the faircoin community banded together for some serious LEGIT voting once it's available again and showed that the coin would be a great addition we could get it added without it needing to be #1 on the charts.
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y3804
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March 23, 2014, 01:21:13 AM |
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Glad to see Jay is watching this thread.
Now that things have come to light maybe there's a chance at a resolution that would make everyone happy. Clearly faircoin had some unfair voting behind it however i'm sure Jay can see the coin has strong backing both from the reaction here and from earlier in the thread. Perhaps if the rest of the faircoin community banded together for some serious LEGIT voting once it's available again and showed that the coin would be a great addition we could get it added without it needing to be #1 on the charts.
Read the 2 previous pages. TL;DR Jay is a greedy owner who doesn't care about community support.
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MinersUnion
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March 23, 2014, 01:21:25 AM |
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Nope. That's not what he told me. He will remove the automated votes in the future, but the 80% is fixed in stone for the 3 coins he listed Here is an excerpt (the very last part) of my conversation with Jay, dev of Mintpal: (This conversation depicts the attitude of Jay who runs Mintpal. A greedy, unresponsive piece of shit) https://i.imgur.com/VvgXDP0.pngAnd then I asked him for a refund of my donation https://i.imgur.com/84NFHve.pngI agree I was somewhat agressive, but man, he didn't want to share any thought on the 80% number. Fixed in stone. He didn't want to give me a # of bot votes (which I personally approximate to be less than 10K, for sure). I couldn't get anything out of him I had a feeling he might do this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the users who admitted to using 119 accounts to vote systematically for Faircoin. Since he has decided to selectively show parts of our IRC conversion, I've posted the full unedited version to pastebin linked below, which includes him admitting to it and later trying to bribe me with 2 BTC to add FAC back after much name calling. I have nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/3myAMFiLMake of it what you will. I'm speechless. y3804, what have you done to us... What, am I to blame? Look, let's take this from another perspective. Let's say I wasn't the bot voter. Why would he strip 80% if the bot voter only voted ~8k times? I even tried to make him change his decision before even revealing my identity. He didn't care. It's true that 80% isn't the way to go. But bots isn't the way either. It would have taken a few more days but we had something good going. Yes, I think this is your doing... If you wouldn't have created 120 accounts and got them spamming votes like crazy, we would still be in the top 5 on that list. That's like, the only reason we're going back to 20K. What the balls man. What were you thinking? That no one would notice 120 accounts showing up from nowhere on 10minutemail accounts and puking votes? It doesn't matter that you tried to change his mind. I also understand why he wouldn't listen to you. You can't throw it on him, saying he doesn't support the community, and you got us into trouble. Nice try man. Just get out.
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DailyModo
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March 23, 2014, 01:22:24 AM |
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Nice job. But the dev is NOT the Chinese. I voted Bter for Chinese market. and mintpal. We should be focused on some exchanges but not all at the fist stage. There is a lot of markets to contact people make your parts lets move forward!
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MintPal-Jay
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March 23, 2014, 01:23:01 AM |
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Well it just prove that even if a member admited his wrong, you are punishing the whole community. I am done trading on mintpal personally its a good exchange but from a greedy admin.
Taking advantage of this situation to punish the community in order to receive even more bitcoins on voting.
What ever your trying to expose i personnaly dont care your as greedy as they come. Careless of your members thats what this story has proved.
You've been asking for proof and we have delivered it, especially after he tried to defame my character. We're not looking to receive more bitcoins (come on, we've dismissed a 2 BTC bribe attempt by the botter), we just want to create a fair system for all and that does mean having to penalise anyone who is trying to cheat. We will review the vote reduction tomorrow, but I can't make any guarantees at this point.
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Rraider
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March 23, 2014, 01:25:41 AM |
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:popcorn:
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hypersire
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March 23, 2014, 01:26:05 AM |
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I'm a holder of FAC and I just started using Mintpal for the first time tonight. I have to say, MintPal is definitely not to blame here!
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