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Author Topic: [ANN]Faircoin - MULTIPOOL PAYS --- 20%--- BONUS! for the next week!!  (Read 341878 times)
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March 28, 2014, 02:16:31 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposited to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.

You are trying to find excuse for the problem, just like cryptorush did to BlackCoin!!!
1. 15million coins had been found and distributed. I can confirm this as I received my stake from that pool.

2. 1000 Each is not true. The true is 1000FAC per IP per hour. If you have 10 computers and work 24hr per day, you may have 24*10*3*1000= 720k FAC!!!!!

3. FAC trade is alive on your exchange and polonix for days. How many trade had happened? The coins alway flowed from small owner to huge whales.

4. Yes, you can suspend the market and withdrawal of FAC. You can do this for FAC today. You can also do the same for the another coin. Finally, there is one day. Your platform will be the next Cryptorush.  Bye. nxt-e.

 

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March 28, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


nxt-e 平台一直和官方的 blockchain 保持同步检查,也一直使用官方提供的node ,昨天我们被存入6950000 fac(150万未确认)全部来自于一个 nxt-e 的一个全新账户!fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy http://fac.blockx.info/ 也有相同的存款(今日被更新后消失了)。 不用说poloniex可能接受了更多的FAC存款,据我们观察,他们大约也被存入 650万 fac.

Faircoin开发队声称fac被分发给非常多的人,每人1000个fac。但是这次存入的数量如此巨大,预估超过1000万个fac,让我们怀疑除了Faircoin的开发人员,谁还有如此数量的币呢?

官方回滚的650万, 现在我们需要官方用证据来解释!回滚的650万是因为 fac 受到 51% 攻击产生的假账,还是它是属于官方声称丢失的 1500万的一部分(官方恶意存入后,交易BTC后,blockchain 回滚,消灭证据)

上述两种原因都将是FAC未来重大隐患,它随时还会发生,因此NXT-e做出 暂停FAC存取款的决定,直到官方给出合理的证据,证明上述问题得到妥善解决。因此 nxt-e并没有发生过错误。
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   还记得官方曾经说最后的 1500万币弄丢了(鬼才相信开发者不保留钱包),我们市场中有很多不成熟的币也有分叉的情况,但是没有一个官方像 fac 这样无法沟通的。 也没有任何一个币出现如此巨大的问题。

C2 和 FAC 同样都属于 POW 币,算力低,理论上都容易被 51% 攻击。 C2的市值更高,在 bter 中成交量更大, 试想一下,如果你是黑客,都能发起 51%攻击,选择C2收益会更好!  因此我们怀疑 51% 攻击即使具备条件也是很困难的。 综上:我们有理由怀疑 FAC团队因为前期分裂导致 1500万币被个人拿到,昨天来抛售,官方却扮演了无辜的角色来充当 中心端 进行回滚。 试想其他平台还敢接受这个币吗?

    我们和亲爱的用户一样希望得到真相,假如被 51% 就请提供证据!

官方的币确实发出来了,昨晚也确实51之后分叉了,今天钱包更新了,可以看下之前所有的post再决定怎么做,我记得中国社区通知过你们分叉了,你们每当回事,造成了用户的损失,我们对nxt-e表示很失望。希望你们能妥善处理这件事,不要伤了玩家的心,谢谢。在我看来nxt-e还不错,挺喜欢在那里交易的。
Regard

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March 28, 2014, 02:20:54 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


nxt-e 平台一直和官方的 blockchain 保持同步检查,也一直使用官方提供的node ,昨天我们被存入6950000 fac(150万未确认)全部来自于一个 nxt-e 的一个全新账户!fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy http://fac.blockx.info/ 也有相同的存款(今日被更新后消失了)。 不用说poloniex可能接受了更多的FAC存款,据我们观察,他们大约也被存入 650万 fac.

Faircoin开发队声称fac被分发给非常多的人,每人1000个fac。但是这次存入的数量如此巨大,预估超过1000万个fac,让我们怀疑除了Faircoin的开发人员,谁还有如此数量的币呢?

官方回滚的650万, 现在我们需要官方用证据来解释!回滚的650万是因为 fac 受到 51% 攻击产生的假账,还是它是属于官方声称丢失的 1500万的一部分(官方恶意存入后,交易BTC后,blockchain 回滚,消灭证据)

上述两种原因都将是FAC未来重大隐患,它随时还会发生,因此NXT-e做出 暂停FAC存取款的决定,直到官方给出合理的证据,证明上述问题得到妥善解决。因此 nxt-e并没有发生过错误。
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   还记得官方曾经说最后的 1500万币弄丢了(鬼才相信开发者不保留钱包),我们市场中有很多不成熟的币也有分叉的情况,但是没有一个官方像 fac 这样无法沟通的。 也没有任何一个币出现如此巨大的问题。

C2 和 FAC 同样都属于 POW 币,算力低,理论上都容易被 51% 攻击。 C2的市值更高,在 bter 中成交量更大, 试想一下,如果你是黑客,都能发起 51%攻击,选择C2收益会更好!  因此我们怀疑 51% 攻击即使具备条件也是很困难的。 综上:我们有理由怀疑 FAC团队因为前期分裂导致 1500万币被个人拿到,昨天来抛售,官方却扮演了无辜的角色来充当 中心端 进行回滚。 试想其他平台还敢接受这个币吗?

    我们和亲爱的用户一样希望得到真相,假如被 51% 就请提供证据!

官方的币确实发出来了,昨晚也确实51之后分叉了,今天钱包更新了,可以看下之前所有的post再决定怎么做,我记得中国社区通知过你们分叉了,你们每当回事,造成了用户的损失,我们对nxt-e表示很失望。希望你们能妥善处理这件事,不要伤了玩家的心,谢谢。在我看来nxt-e还不错,挺喜欢在那里交易的。
Regard

我觉得你可以先冻结昨晚交易的帐户,一点点排查,然后让现在情绪比较激烈的玩家先冷静,最好少表态,因为你们的随意表态会造成玩家恐慌 谢谢

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March 28, 2014, 02:27:26 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposited to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.

You are trying to find excuse for the problem, just like cryptorush did to BlackCoin!!!
1. 15million coins had been found and distributed. I can confirm this as I received my stake from that pool.

2. 1000 Each is not true. The true is 1000FAC per IP per hour. If you have 10 computers and work 24hr per day, you may have 24*10*3*1000= 720k FAC!!!!!

3. FAC trade is alive on your exchange and polonix for days. How many trade had happened? The coins alway flowed from small owner to huge whales.

4. Yes, you can suspend the market and withdrawal of FAC. You can do this for FAC today. You can also do the same for the another coin. Finally, there is one day. Your platform will be the next Cryptorush.  Bye. nxt-e.

 



We will have a compensation for our customer. But before that, we need to find out whose fault it is and find out the truth.
我们最终会给出合理的赔偿方案,但在这之前我们需要得到真相! 请客户站在我们这边。

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March 28, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


nxt-e 平台一直和官方的 blockchain 保持同步检查,也一直使用官方提供的node ,昨天我们被存入6950000 fac(150万未确认)全部来自于一个 nxt-e 的一个全新账户!fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy http://fac.blockx.info/ 也有相同的存款(今日被更新后消失了)。 不用说poloniex可能接受了更多的FAC存款,据我们观察,他们大约也被存入 650万 fac.

Faircoin开发队声称fac被分发给非常多的人,每人1000个fac。但是这次存入的数量如此巨大,预估超过1000万个fac,让我们怀疑除了Faircoin的开发人员,谁还有如此数量的币呢?

官方回滚的650万, 现在我们需要官方用证据来解释!回滚的650万是因为 fac 受到 51% 攻击产生的假账,还是它是属于官方声称丢失的 1500万的一部分(官方恶意存入后,交易BTC后,blockchain 回滚,消灭证据)

上述两种原因都将是FAC未来重大隐患,它随时还会发生,因此NXT-e做出 暂停FAC存取款的决定,直到官方给出合理的证据,证明上述问题得到妥善解决。因此 nxt-e并没有发生过错误。
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   还记得官方曾经说最后的 1500万币弄丢了(鬼才相信开发者不保留钱包),我们市场中有很多不成熟的币也有分叉的情况,但是没有一个官方像 fac 这样无法沟通的。 也没有任何一个币出现如此巨大的问题。

C2 和 FAC 同样都属于 POW 币,算力低,理论上都容易被 51% 攻击。 C2的市值更高,在 bter 中成交量更大, 试想一下,如果你是黑客,都能发起 51%攻击,选择C2收益会更好!  因此我们怀疑 51% 攻击即使具备条件也是很困难的。 综上:我们有理由怀疑 FAC团队因为前期分裂导致 1500万币被个人拿到,昨天来抛售,官方却扮演了无辜的角色来充当 中心端 进行回滚。 试想其他平台还敢接受这个币吗?

    我们和亲爱的用户一样希望得到真相,假如被 51% 就请提供证据!

官方的币确实发出来了,昨晚也确实51之后分叉了,今天钱包更新了,可以看下之前所有的post再决定怎么做,我记得中国社区通知过你们分叉了,你们每当回事,造成了用户的损失,我们对nxt-e表示很失望。希望你们能妥善处理这件事,不要伤了玩家的心,谢谢。在我看来nxt-e还不错,挺喜欢在那里交易的。
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希望dev和nxt-e都能给出一个好的解决办法。。

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March 28, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

the theory where we attacked our own coin is not only not supported by anything, it also doesn't make any sense
if anybody had over 15 million coins, they would just sell them over time on many exchanges without pushing the price down, not fork the chain and buy all the 100 satoshi bids

as i said before, this attack is no longer possible with the new version
someone simply took advantage of the new coin's fragile state

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March 28, 2014, 02:33:55 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposited to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.

You are trying to find excuse for the problem, just like cryptorush did to BlackCoin!!!
1. 15million coins had been found and distributed. I can confirm this as I received my stake from that pool.

2. 1000 Each is not true. The true is 1000FAC per IP per hour. If you have 10 computers and work 24hr per day, you may have 24*10*3*1000= 720k FAC!!!!!

3. FAC trade is alive on your exchange and polonix for days. How many trade had happened? The coins alway flowed from small owner to huge whales.

4. Yes, you can suspend the market and withdrawal of FAC. You can do this for FAC today. You can also do the same for the another coin. Finally, there is one day. Your platform will be the next Cryptorush.  Bye. nxt-e.

 



We will have a compensation for our customer. But before that, we need to find out whose fault it is and find out the truth.
我们最终会给出合理的赔偿方案,但在这之前我们需要得到真相! 请客户站在我们这边。

好的 不要太激动,我们站在你这边,你们也是受害者,
1.我们先要确认dev没有做坏事
2.做了这个事的人的帐户 可以贴出来我们大家一起人肉
3.如果证实不是dev的错,那么可能真的是分叉,考虑下给大家怎么解决
总之事情总会有结论的,我们都是受害者。

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March 28, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


nxt-e 平台一直和官方的 blockchain 保持同步检查,也一直使用官方提供的node ,昨天我们被存入6950000 fac(150万未确认)全部来自于一个 nxt-e 的一个全新账户!fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy http://fac.blockx.info/ 也有相同的存款(今日被更新后消失了)。 不用说poloniex可能接受了更多的FAC存款,据我们观察,他们大约也被存入 650万 fac.

Faircoin开发队声称fac被分发给非常多的人,每人1000个fac。但是这次存入的数量如此巨大,预估超过1000万个fac,让我们怀疑除了Faircoin的开发人员,谁还有如此数量的币呢?

官方回滚的650万, 现在我们需要官方用证据来解释!回滚的650万是因为 fac 受到 51% 攻击产生的假账,还是它是属于官方声称丢失的 1500万的一部分(官方恶意存入后,交易BTC后,blockchain 回滚,消灭证据)

上述两种原因都将是FAC未来重大隐患,它随时还会发生,因此NXT-e做出 暂停FAC存取款的决定,直到官方给出合理的证据,证明上述问题得到妥善解决。因此 nxt-e并没有发生过错误。
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   还记得官方曾经说最后的 1500万币弄丢了(鬼才相信开发者不保留钱包),我们市场中有很多不成熟的币也有分叉的情况,但是没有一个官方像 fac 这样无法沟通的。 也没有任何一个币出现如此巨大的问题。

C2 和 FAC 同样都属于 POW 币,算力低,理论上都容易被 51% 攻击。 C2的市值更高,在 bter 中成交量更大, 试想一下,如果你是黑客,都能发起 51%攻击,选择C2收益会更好!  因此我们怀疑 51% 攻击即使具备条件也是很困难的。 综上:我们有理由怀疑 FAC团队因为前期分裂导致 1500万币被个人拿到,昨天来抛售,官方却扮演了无辜的角色来充当 中心端 进行回滚。 试想其他平台还敢接受这个币吗?

    我们和亲爱的用户一样希望得到真相,假如被 51% 就请提供证据!

官方的币确实发出来了,昨晚也确实51之后分叉了,今天钱包更新了,可以看下之前所有的post再决定怎么做,我记得中国社区通知过你们分叉了,你们每当回事,造成了用户的损失,我们对nxt-e表示很失望。希望你们能妥善处理这件事,不要伤了玩家的心,谢谢。在我看来nxt-e还不错,挺喜欢在那里交易的。
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我觉得你可以先冻结昨晚交易的帐户,一点点排查,然后让现在情绪比较激烈的玩家先冷静,最好少表态,因为你们的随意表态会造成玩家恐慌 谢谢

恶意用户交易后,就立即取走了BTC,提款使用了代理,分别来自德国、捷克、瑞典。
我们也是考虑再三,我们不会像MH370那样捂着掖着,信息第一时间公开是我们的责任。(今天上午一直在和 FAC 官方沟通,之前也有币分叉,都很良好的解决,FAC的官方看起来就是蛮横不讲理,甚至这里回复我们不负责任的都是他们的号,你可以试着顺藤摸瓜)

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March 28, 2014, 02:36:03 PM
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the 15 million was recoverd and distributed

all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


nxt-e 平台一直和官方的 blockchain 保持同步检查,也一直使用官方提供的node ,昨天我们被存入6950000 fac(150万未确认)全部来自于一个 nxt-e 的一个全新账户!fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy http://fac.blockx.info/ 也有相同的存款(今日被更新后消失了)。 不用说poloniex可能接受了更多的FAC存款,据我们观察,他们大约也被存入 650万 fac.

Faircoin开发队声称fac被分发给非常多的人,每人1000个fac。但是这次存入的数量如此巨大,预估超过1000万个fac,让我们怀疑除了Faircoin的开发人员,谁还有如此数量的币呢?

官方回滚的650万, 现在我们需要官方用证据来解释!回滚的650万是因为 fac 受到 51% 攻击产生的假账,还是它是属于官方声称丢失的 1500万的一部分(官方恶意存入后,交易BTC后,blockchain 回滚,消灭证据)

上述两种原因都将是FAC未来重大隐患,它随时还会发生,因此NXT-e做出 暂停FAC存取款的决定,直到官方给出合理的证据,证明上述问题得到妥善解决。因此 nxt-e并没有发生过错误。
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   还记得官方曾经说最后的 1500万币弄丢了(鬼才相信开发者不保留钱包),我们市场中有很多不成熟的币也有分叉的情况,但是没有一个官方像 fac 这样无法沟通的。 也没有任何一个币出现如此巨大的问题。

C2 和 FAC 同样都属于 POW 币,算力低,理论上都容易被 51% 攻击。 C2的市值更高,在 bter 中成交量更大, 试想一下,如果你是黑客,都能发起 51%攻击,选择C2收益会更好!  因此我们怀疑 51% 攻击即使具备条件也是很困难的。 综上:我们有理由怀疑 FAC团队因为前期分裂导致 1500万币被个人拿到,昨天来抛售,官方却扮演了无辜的角色来充当 中心端 进行回滚。 试想其他平台还敢接受这个币吗?

    我们和亲爱的用户一样希望得到真相,假如被 51% 就请提供证据!

官方的币确实发出来了,昨晚也确实51之后分叉了,今天钱包更新了,可以看下之前所有的post再决定怎么做,我记得中国社区通知过你们分叉了,你们每当回事,造成了用户的损失,我们对nxt-e表示很失望。希望你们能妥善处理这件事,不要伤了玩家的心,谢谢。在我看来nxt-e还不错,挺喜欢在那里交易的。
Regard

我觉得你可以先冻结昨晚交易的帐户,一点点排查,然后让现在情绪比较激烈的玩家先冷静,最好少表态,因为你们的随意表态会造成玩家恐慌 谢谢

恶意用户交易后,就立即取走了BTC,提款使用了代理,分别来自德国、捷克、瑞典。
我们也是考虑再三,我们不会像MH370那样捂着掖着,信息第一时间公开是我们的责任。(今天上午一直在和 FAC 官方沟通,之前也有币分叉,都很良好的解决,FAC的官方看起来就是蛮横不讲理,甚至这里回复我们不负责任的都是他们的号,你可以试着顺藤摸瓜)

这些人可能真的就是不同的恶意用户,据我所知有的人抓住了你们睡觉比较薄弱的时间,利用这个时机砸了很多fork出来的假币,有些国外投机分子,知道你们察觉后肯定会冻结帐户,就提btc走人了,我就通过一个朋友知道有几个人这么做了,他们开了代理或者就在国外。

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March 28, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

the theory where we attacked our own coin is not only not supported by anything, it also doesn't make any sense
if anybody had over 15 million coins, they would just sell them over time on many exchanges without pushing the price down, not fork the chain and buy all the 100 satoshi bids

as i said before, this attack is no longer possible with the new version
someone simply took advantage of the new coin's fragile state



They sold on NXT-e last night even at 1 satoshi!

Yes, 1 satoshi.

They know they hold hotair and sold anyway.

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March 28, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
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the 15 million was recoverd and distributed

all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..
I get  98% stakes are you special can you post all your tokens?
I applied during all 3 days time so no scam please dont troll.
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March 28, 2014, 02:45:31 PM
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Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

i have no idea about your shares
have a look here:
http://fac.blockx.info/get/block/0000000028f7b09d2de808037c2520f9da68a13bae3565bca2770f2464405278

and the blocks before and after it
this is part of the 2nd distribution

look at the date

you can also tell me which addresses you entered and didn't get coins, some people entered invalid addresses we couldn't send to

or, by your signature, you are just a PMC stakeholder coming here to eliminate competition
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March 28, 2014, 02:46:02 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposit to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.


all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

the theory where we attacked our own coin is not only not supported by anything, it also doesn't make any sense
if anybody had over 15 million coins, they would just sell them over time on many exchanges without pushing the price down, not fork the chain and buy all the 100 satoshi bids

as i said before, this attack is no longer possible with the new version
someone simply took advantage of the new coin's fragile state



i wonder who that was ... Karma!







            
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March 28, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
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NXT-E is always syncing with official block chain and using official nodes.
Yesterday, there are more than 6950000 coins deposited to fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy our exchange, including 1.5 million coins. Not to mention, poloniex probably received more. http://fac.blockx.info/ showed the same records until they are updated.

The dev team said the coins were distributed to so many people. Everyone got 1000 fac. But this amount is so huge, probably more than 10 million coins, which leads us to wonder who can possibly have such amount of Farincoins besides dev team themselves.

We need explanation that the coins that Faircoin team rolled back is because of 51% attack or they come from the 15 million coins that were claimed gone missing when the first time distribution. So Dev team deposit them maliciously, and after trading btc, rollback the blockchain to cover up and prepare the next attack. Because they "fixed" the problem so quickly and easily, even if BTC team can't fix 51% attack.

Either reasons are huge risks. And it could happen again. So to protect Faircoin investors, NXT-E decided to suspend the market and withdraws until dev team give all of us a reasonable proof and show everyone that they handle it satisfied. There is no false on our side.

You are trying to find excuse for the problem, just like cryptorush did to BlackCoin!!!
1. 15million coins had been found and distributed. I can confirm this as I received my stake from that pool.

2. 1000 Each is not true. The true is 1000FAC per IP per hour. If you have 10 computers and work 24hr per day, you may have 24*10*3*1000= 720k FAC!!!!!

3. FAC trade is alive on your exchange and polonix for days. How many trade had happened? The coins alway flowed from small owner to huge whales.

4. Yes, you can suspend the market and withdrawal of FAC. You can do this for FAC today. You can also do the same for the another coin. Finally, there is one day. Your platform will be the next Cryptorush.  Bye. nxt-e.

 



We will have a compensation for our customer. But before that, we need to find out whose fault it is and find out the truth.
我们最终会给出合理的赔偿方案,但在这之前我们需要得到真相! 请客户站在我们这边。

我认为作者和平台都有过错,其中平台监管不善占主要 原因,现在不应该讨价还价,追究谁的问题大,而是应该协商好应该怎么赔偿客户,弥补你们平台客户的利益,拿出你们的诚意,客户的眼睛的雪亮的,不要因为某一个币而损失一部分客户。你弥补了他们的损失,你才是最大的受益人。你们的态度决定了你们的前景。向火币网学习学习,对待莱特币跌到1是个什么态度。
I think the author and platform are at fault, the platform of the main reason of poor regulation, it should not for a supply of sth., but you should consult how should compensate for the customer, make up for your platform the interests of customers, your attitude determines on the currency network learning you, treat the Wright down to 1 is a what attitude.

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March 28, 2014, 02:47:51 PM
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the 15 million was recoverd and distributed

all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

YUP ... I never received mine either but I don't mind. coin has no value as of today so I guess karma is at work.







            
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March 28, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
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the 15 million was recoverd and distributed

all the coins that were deposited came from the forked blockchain
the 15 million coins that we were initially unable to distribute were distributed some time ago.
you have all the proof you want on the blockchain, as well as people here who were waiting for coins from the 15 mil and eventually got them

Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

I got all of mine.  You are the stakeholder of Nxt-e and surely are on the side of NXT-E.
It's not the time to blame the dev how to distribute the coin.
If you complained about the distribution , you should shout at the end of distribution.
Not NOW!
What you are doing now is just to pass the buck!
You will make the user disappointed about your exchange.

Someone informed you at the very first time. No response! Trade was ongoing!
I have 15w FAC on your exchange.  I deposit these coins several days before.
And now you locked all the FAC balance. Good job!  

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March 28, 2014, 02:50:33 PM
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Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

i have no idea about your shares
have a look here:
http://fac.blockx.info/get/block/0000000028f7b09d2de808037c2520f9da68a13bae3565bca2770f2464405278

and the blocks before and after it
this is part of the 2nd distribution

look at the date

you can also tell me which addresses you entered and didn't get coins, some people entered invalid addresses we couldn't send to

or, by your signature, you are just a PMC stakeholder coming here to eliminate competition
I agree, so many shitcoin want to suck our dick. Grin

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March 28, 2014, 02:51:54 PM
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Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

i have no idea about your shares
have a look here:
http://fac.blockx.info/get/block/0000000028f7b09d2de808037c2520f9da68a13bae3565bca2770f2464405278

and the blocks before and after it
this is part of the 2nd distribution

look at the date

you can also tell me which addresses you entered and didn't get coins, some people entered invalid addresses we couldn't send to

or, by your signature, you are just a PMC stakeholder coming here to eliminate competition

I have 100% of shares and I have a good amount of coins from day 1 and day 2. Every coin was distributed everything is on blockchain.
If you didn't get your share you must have not followed the process correctly
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March 28, 2014, 02:58:38 PM
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Please explain how they were distributed?
I didn't get all my shares only about 65% of my shares..

i have no idea about your shares
have a look here:
http://fac.blockx.info/get/block/0000000028f7b09d2de808037c2520f9da68a13bae3565bca2770f2464405278

and the blocks before and after it
this is part of the 2nd distribution

look at the date

you can also tell me which addresses you entered and didn't get coins, some people entered invalid addresses we couldn't send to

or, by your signature, you are just a PMC stakeholder coming here to eliminate competition

Our enemy is attacking us when we are weak.

FACers, be ready,  aim & fire!!!

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