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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
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February 28, 2015, 03:49:22 AM |
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I agree with kiklo on this one. TZM had their chance last year to stand with us, and they passed it up and even mocked us along the way. Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.
Furthermore, the fact that they are even entertaining Keiser's coin is because of his somewhat celebrity status. Just more proof that TZM has lost its way from what it was started to be. They are nothing more than global sell-outs nowadays.
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atronite
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February 28, 2015, 04:07:27 AM |
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I agree with kiklo on this one. TZM had their chance last year to stand with us, and they passed it up and even mocked us along the way. Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.
Furthermore, the fact that they are even entertaining Keiser's coin is because of his somewhat celebrity status. Just more proof that TZM has lost its way from what it was started to be. They are nothing more than global sell-outs nowadays.
It still shouldn't stop us from trying to advertise to their members tho. I agree that leadership is a lost cause, but the membership can still be a different story. There is something to be said about branding, and I think that the membership is in need of....shall we say......new leadership. TZM leadership has lost their way, so I see the TZM audience members as potential recruits, and the people who are most likely to be friendly to what TCM has to offer (esp once we explain that we see Zeitcoin as a necessary stepping stone to an eventual world-wide acceptance of a resource-based economy).
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February 28, 2015, 04:23:59 AM Last edit: February 28, 2015, 04:37:44 AM by a_cat_named_joe |
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Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.
So, you are saying that you failed to convince the TZM with a logical argument? Don't forget that there were many scam coins out there, all making pretentious claims. Perhaps as time has gone on their attitude has changed. Why don't we try again? Abby Martin is the main guest speaker at the Zeitgeist event in Berlin. I believe she is Bitcoin friendly. She also has Peter Josef's ear having interviewed him on her television show. Incidentally, I don't think that you read the reference material in my posts properly, if at all. The Keiser Twitter post seems to have been a spoof with a doctored Peter Josef YouTube video where he appears to endorse Startcoin, but when compared to the original, he doesn't. There was a Startcoin post on the TZM forum, to which I added my bit.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 05:12:13 AM |
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I applaud your passion, but TZM leadership is not needed for the ZCM or ZeitKnights to achieve our goals. Zeit will be Global All are welcome to join ZCM. Zeit will become the virtual resource the world needs and we will make it happen. ZCM will be a Unifying force.Just so no Misunderstanding , let me repeat All are Welcome at ZCM.
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February 28, 2015, 06:16:10 AM |
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Leonard Nimoy, Spock of ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 83
Rest in Peace You will be missed!!!
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atronite
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February 28, 2015, 07:19:32 AM |
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I applaud your passion, but TZM leadership is not needed for the ZCM or ZeitKnights to achieve our goals.
I think you misunderstand me mate. I'm not advocating for TZM style leadership. I'm saying that when members of TZM "rank and file" see us getting real results and have a much more positive and realistic message (as opposed to the TZM leadership, which has all the vibes of a conspiracy cult), then we'll see growth in our community. Right now the goal needs to be community growth, and that means finding as many like-minded people and drawing them to our cause as much as possible. While some might come from the crypto community (and the inherently libertarian nature of such folks), I think we'll find a LOT of such people in the TZM, many of whom I am SURE are HIGHLY dissatisfied with the "leadership".
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February 28, 2015, 08:17:40 AM |
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 08:50:44 AM |
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UKI has Passed the Test of ZeitKnight!On Behalf of the ZeitKnights, We Welcome you Sir UKI .Sir Ray, Sir UKI arrives at 14.
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atronite
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February 28, 2015, 08:51:15 AM |
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Dang. Really sad. So many legends dying off in recent years.
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February 28, 2015, 08:59:28 AM |
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UKI has Passed the Test of ZeitKnight!On Behalf of the ZeitKnights, We Welcome you Sir UKI .Sir Ray, Sir UKI arrives at 14. Perfect, thank you Sir Kiklo.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 09:04:56 AM |
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Proof of ZeitKnight!Only Hours Left of Feb. RegistrationsRules for posting , 1st 15 with at least 100 Million Zeitcoins in 1 Address confirmed by the Block Explorer will be Zeit Knights. New Knights will be confirmed in order of posting, so if you are the 16th one, you will have to try again at the next registration. Goto https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zeit/ and verify your amount of zeit is at least 100 million. Copy & Paste your zeit address in the search box and hit enter. Copy & Paste your Address & Balance in a POST Example Post:_________________________________________________________________________ Proof of ZeitKnightName: Kiklo Address MgUFJ2AJvhaWsW4kkfwoDuzy2pZSQLJB63 Balance 109,697,169.412637 ZEIT __________________________________________________________________________ Once your Post is up, We will send you 2025 zeitcoins within 12 hours, after you receive the zeitcoins, Use Coin Control and send back exactly 2015 zeitcoins to MgUFJ2AJvhaWsW4kkfwoDuzy2pZSQLJB63 , from the 2025 that was sent to you.(Only send from the block of 2025 sent to you, sending from another block , can cause the entire block amount to be subtracted from your total by the block explorer stats.)
This confirms your ownership of the Account. Within 24 hours of confirming ownership of the account, A Post will be added to the Zeit Forum of your Achievement & ZEIT KNIGHTHOOD!!! Only 1 left for Feb 2015.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 09:07:17 AM |
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UKI has Passed the Test of ZeitKnight!On Behalf of the ZeitKnights, We Welcome you Sir UKI .Sir Ray, Sir UKI arrives at 14. Perfect, thank you Sir Kiklo. Thank You Sir UKI,
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February 28, 2015, 09:49:08 AM |
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Welcome Sir Atronite, welcome Sir uki.
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February 28, 2015, 10:17:35 AM |
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blockchain.info on a bad fork?
Can anyone confirm? Cannot see my transaction.
Edit: Last block: 4h 25 minutes in the past.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 10:32:50 AM |
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blockchain.info on a bad fork?
Can anyone confirm? Cannot see my transaction.
Edit: Last block: 4h 25 minutes in the past.
PM me the Zeit Address you sent from and the one you sent to .
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February 28, 2015, 10:36:22 AM |
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blockchain.info on a bad fork?
Can anyone confirm? Cannot see my transaction.
Edit: Last block: 4h 25 minutes in the past.
PM me the Zeit Address you sent from and the one you sent to . Its BTC, not Zeit.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 10:41:48 AM |
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blockchain.info on a bad fork?
Can anyone confirm? Cannot see my transaction.
Edit: Last block: 4h 25 minutes in the past.
PM me the Zeit Address you sent from and the one you sent to . Its BTC, not Zeit. Oh, Use this one http://btc.blockr.io/ FYI: So used to everything being about Zeit forgot all about Bitcoin.
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February 28, 2015, 10:52:22 AM |
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BTC has arrived - that's not the problem. But one of their daemons are down or has forked.
Try to find this transaction: c78ca968d690ab5979f0a0fd46a8e0781430ecb2d99b9f6664b0b7dfed722049 ;-) You will find newer transactions, but not this one. Interesting.
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kiklo
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February 28, 2015, 11:14:18 AM |
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It looks like blockchain.info is Stuck on Block 345507 , 5 hours or more ago. http://btc.blockr.io is at Block 345539 . So your Transaction should show up on it.
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