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December 07, 2019, 02:22:40 AM
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Religion was a unified form of law and instructions. They consisted scientific study as well as taught healthy habits. God was filled wherever they needed to caution the reader. They needed a power to fear whenever the presence of human authority was not available.
Science is the systematic study through observation and experiments. There are no places for assumptions.
As, religion also consisted of science, they look similar to that point.
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December 07, 2019, 12:46:11 PM
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According to my understanding, true Christian is someone who put God on the first place in his life,  someone who chose God father and his son Jesus and follow their words in everyday life.
True scientist is also someone who respect nature as God's creation and understand that they can only discover Heavenly secrets in their work since God created everything including narural laws.

But how does one put God first in life? Isn't it by doing the one major thing that God wants? "God would have all men (and women) to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

This world is going to be destroyed in the Lake of Fire talked about in the Revelation. Sure, we are living in this world that is going down. So we need to follow some of the laws of nature. But the focus should be directed at the New Heavens and New Earth talked about in the Revelation and in Isaiah. The only way to get to the New one and be saved out of the old one, is to trust in Jesus, that He has done what it takes to get us there. It's that simple.

Then, by living the life that Jesus asks, we show - to ourselves as well as to others - that we are believing and trusting in Jesus. Such a God-fearing life also shows other people that they can be saved, as well.

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December 07, 2019, 01:38:46 PM
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You forget so easily how much religion has added to the world too. In fact, the truth is I doubt there will be any science today without religion. Most of the knowledge we have come to be exposed to now was sponsored by institutions religion set up. So, stop throwing baseless claims around. Some of what is called science today will not be around in some years. The likes of the evolution theory and Big Bang theory are concepts I'm certain will die out. Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Religion hasn't contributed to the world at all in fact it made people dumb and many times put the progress of the modern era into halt. Religions is the collection of lies we're many of its verses are a contradiction of each other and even depicts murder and shows dictatorship of god and how god allows murder, rape, genocide, racism and incest.
Science has made the world for the better and save countless lives by researching and creating medicine to counter diseases like pneumonia and prevent newborns into getting caught with viruses that makes a baby abnormal.

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December 07, 2019, 05:42:44 PM
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You forget so easily how much religion has added to the world too. In fact, the truth is I doubt there will be any science today without religion. Most of the knowledge we have come to be exposed to now was sponsored by institutions religion set up. So, stop throwing baseless claims around. Some of what is called science today will not be around in some years. The likes of the evolution theory and Big Bang theory are concepts I'm certain will die out. Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Religion hasn't contributed to the world at all in fact it made people dumb and many times put the progress of the modern era into halt. Religions is the collection of lies we're many of its verses are a contradiction of each other and even depicts murder and shows dictatorship of god and how god allows murder, rape, genocide, racism and incest.
Science has made the world for the better and save countless lives by researching and creating medicine to counter diseases like pneumonia and prevent newborns into getting caught with viruses that makes a baby abnormal.

Wow! You just described faith in the religion of modern medicine!

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December 07, 2019, 05:49:14 PM
Last edit: December 07, 2019, 06:12:52 PM by IadixDev
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1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.


Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

Try godel theorem  Grin

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December 07, 2019, 05:57:53 PM
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1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.


Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

Try godbel theorem  Grin

Yes.

1 + 1 = 2 is not provable. After all, any "1" that you try to add to another "1" is slightly different than the other "1." The difference might only be in the location in space that it exists. Or it might be that the first "1" came first in the equation, but the second "1" came second. This makes them different... like trying to add apples and oranges.

So, 1 + 1 always equals 1 + 1. They never equal 2.

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December 07, 2019, 06:06:50 PM
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Everything in the universe can be gather to the science.as i think religion also one kind of a science.unfortunately when we say science we think only about provable things.no unprovable things also have science.so we can't rejected any things "this can't prove so this is not science".religion also science everything can't prove but humans not ask to prove them,they believe it.it not harmful to anyone.humans believe religion,it not harmful to anyone and make a better world so for what try to prove  everythings?there are no differents in between science and religion.

Also you can have different meaning to "proof", you can have formal proof like in logic, or experimental proof.

But experimental proof is still poor man science, as shown by masters of rationalism like socrate or descartes.

Science is more about formal proof and axiomatic reasonning, and even this is brittle viewed in the lense of godbel theorem.

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December 07, 2019, 06:12:12 PM
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1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.


Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

Try godbel theorem  Grin

Yes.

1 + 1 = 2 is not provable. After all, any "1" that you try to add to another "1" is slightly different than the other "1." The difference might only be in the location in space that it exists. Or it might be that the first "1" came first in the equation, but the second "1" came second. This makes them different... like trying to add apples and oranges.

So, 1 + 1 always equals 1 + 1. They never equal 2.

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Even in the pure logical/ abstract sense, even basic integer arithmetic has been shown to be unproveable formally.

The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of natural numbers. For any such consistent formal system, there will always be statements about natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency.

After numbers are an abstraction that comes along with the idea of atom or monad but we still have to find a physical atom or monad that fit the abstraction.

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December 08, 2019, 04:19:08 PM
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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

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December 08, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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December 09, 2019, 02:23:49 PM
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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy
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December 09, 2019, 03:06:12 PM
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A collection of facts and annecdots doesnt make a science. Roll Eyes

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December 18, 2019, 04:55:26 PM
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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy

But everything has science even it was not discovered yet but soon it will be prove by science. Science can prove about physical that can touch but about the past and the happenings that would happen it would never determined because a science was only a proven from the world that only they found.

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If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

Most of the things in religion can be explained by science but science cannot be explained by religion. As a graduate in engineering, I feel science backs everything that exists in universe & even form bases for any religion. Science is supported by facts, while religion is formed by faiths and beliefs ( Which at times are very subjective).
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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy

But everything has science even it was not discovered yet but soon it will be prove by science. Science can prove about physical that can touch but about the past and the happenings that would happen it would never determined because a science was only a proven from the world that only they found.
It means we are not most developed species right? we have things which is not known to our knowledge in our daily life.

For example science has no answer for these three small questions of our daily life.

1.Why we dream?
2.Why ice is slippery?
3.How bicycle works?
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December 19, 2019, 04:28:49 PM
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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

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December 19, 2019, 04:54:01 PM
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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.
We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!
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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.
We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.
We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

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When we don't know anything about the person who wearing hijabs we still consider them as someone like terrorist. Roll Eyes

Science helps us to what to do's and don't,maybe the same thing was done by religions before centuries without knowing actual reasons.
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