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November 06, 2014, 05:42:17 PM
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I've used BitcoinFog for years and have had no problems whatsoever, think most of the newb posts on this thread should be considered fud.

Me too forgot to update,after last panic 2 weeks ago,I received all the coins in the end.

In the history never had any problems,so I guess these people are fake... Grin
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November 06, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
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Hello!

2 days ago I eas entering the site by using the link on http://www.bitcoinfog.com/
After typing my username + password it told me, there is no connection to the server and I should try it later.
Now I wanted to log in again and I can'  t because anyone has changed my password.
I guess, the link on http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ was 'wrong' so probably it sent my to another site..
So my questions, is there any possibility to get my money back?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english!

No man,if the link is same as now,it is right,I cant understand how could that happen.
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November 06, 2014, 07:12:43 PM
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Oh, look. A newbie to the forum bashing Bitcoin Fog. The pattern continues.

You created a new account under a different user name and sent messages to support expecting them to believe you were the owner of the problem account?

Even if you supplied them with details of the problem account (deposit addresses, etc.) can you really expect them to trust you that the account hadn't been hacked in some way, then the user had changed their password, and due to the site withdrawal problems you weren't just trying to scam an account belonging to someone else?

I appreciate that I'm using supposition and accusing you of lying, but it all seems fishy. You're yet another newbie who's suddenly came out of nowhere to bash Bitcoin Fog and there are a few of us here who had withdrawal problems, waited patiently (and nervously), and eventually got their BTC. We all seem to be regulars.

As I said, the pattern continues.

Dear Idiots:
I created account on bitcoinfog, and after 10 minutes I generated unique btc address, I sent btc because I wanted  to chceck how it works, I waiting, waiting waiting..... and ? btc address has been changed.

my account had 10 minutes, how somebody hacked my account?

yes, very professional site , steal 0.1btc....


can somebody tell me what amount is minimal to send to bitcoinfog??? 0.035 or 0.35 HuhHuhHuh
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November 06, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
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I've used BitcoinFog for years and have had no problems whatsoever, think most of the newb posts on this thread should be considered fud.

Me too forgot to update,after last panic 2 weeks ago,I received all the coins in the end.

In the history never had any problems,so I guess these people are fake... Grin

That I think your post is a fake, I have 10 posts, you have only 4. Did you see difference HuhHuh


All of you write That newbie = fake, I know many people and I wrote with my friends and nobody say that was the problem with bitcoinfog, everyone will recommend this laundry. Unfortunately, I can not!

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November 06, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
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Oh, look. A newbie to the forum bashing Bitcoin Fog. The pattern continues.

You created a new account under a different user name and sent messages to support expecting them to believe you were the owner of the problem account?

Even if you supplied them with details of the problem account (deposit addresses, etc.) can you really expect them to trust you that the account hadn't been hacked in some way, then the user had changed their password, and due to the site withdrawal problems you weren't just trying to scam an account belonging to someone else?

I appreciate that I'm using supposition and accusing you of lying, but it all seems fishy. You're yet another newbie who's suddenly came out of nowhere to bash Bitcoin Fog and there are a few of us here who had withdrawal problems, waited patiently (and nervously), and eventually got their BTC. We all seem to be regulars.

As I said, the pattern continues.

your little brain does not think that someone created an account to ask a question on the forum because he has a problem, and support from bitcoinfog is not responsible and has all in the ass?
I'm not a Charity Foundation, I just want my btc from bitcoinfog.
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November 07, 2014, 12:38:35 AM
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Mixed responses, as expected.

Yes, I'm a relative newb, but we all start somewhere, and I'd been using fog for months without problems until this.  All I was asking that support at least had the courtesy to look into my issue - if they'd said after I deposited and tried to make a withdrawal, that "I" had logged back in and changed my password, that's at least something.  But nothing from them, so one can only draw the conclusion; that they either don't care, or were complicit.

"Bashing" fog on a public forum was a last resort, but what the fuck else was I supposed to do other than create a new account - that's the only way to contact support.

I'm only sharing my own experience and others will read into that what they will.  As I said before, trust is the issue.

I'm not trying to big up the alternatives - you can find them if you want, but 2 stage PGP login as required by my new mixer might have avoided being hacked or robbed.

whatevs.
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November 12, 2014, 12:56:54 AM
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So yes this is my first post. Maybe I am a slight newbie to deepweb and bitcoin, but i am no newbie to the game or ordering on the net. I had a couple of good experiences with bitcoinfog until today. I sent out some bitcoins today thru bitcoin fog. A relatively small amount and I am gonna keep it to myself for a bit to see if it gets resolved. So I try to login to bitcoinfog and check my account and it tells me that I cant login with such username/password. My password is saved in a password saver. Definitely did not change since this morning. All traffic stopped about a hour after I sent the order to be done. I got "some" out of it, but not being able to login has me worried that something is definitely wrong. Definitely looks like I got fucked somehow. Just my 2 cents
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November 12, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
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lol more noob accounts trashing fog.....

bitcoinfog is the only mixer I trust, there's already been rumors of mixers being run by the feds so you have to be very careful laundering your bits Wink

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November 14, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
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Hi all, so I believe I just got scammed out of my bitcoins. I found the TOR link via www.bitcoinfog.com/, created an account, made a deposit, waited until I saw the coins on my account. I forwarded them to another account with the 6h minimum timer. About an hour later I tried to login to Bitcoinfog, only to receive an error message (the service is temporarily unavailable, I believe it said) which was weird because I had just re-logged no problem like 20 minutes ago. I got the link from www.bitcoinfog.com/ again, then I noticed it was different from the URL I had just used... I didn't save the URL and can't recall at which point it had changed. Tried logging in to the "real" site and it says "Could not login using provided information."

I found this thread and read a bit, so it seems there are other people telling the same thing happened to them. I believe it's some kind of site hijacking like post #251 said. It's been more than 8 hours and I still don't see my coins so it's quite safe to say they're gone to a phishing site. (I will edit my post if I get them.)

Reading comments from other users in this thread I saw the support isn't really doing much, so I decided to post as a warning to others. I believe Bitcoinfog is responsible for the loss of my and other people's coins who had the same thing happen to them. As such, Bitcoinfog should compensate for the losses. I am not bashing Bitcoinfog: I am just reasonably upset enough that I needed to vent my frustration in this thread. (Bitcoinfog admins can contact me via PM to clear this up)

In the meantime, I would STRONGLY ADVISE NOT TO USE BITCOINFOG. I don't know whether it is hackers or fraudulent administration: all I know I lost my coins and hopefully nobody else will.



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November 14, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
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sounds like you got phished, can't really blame bitcoinfog for that. this is the real one:  fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion
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November 14, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
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Well I've been trying to reach BitcoinFog support for over a month now, both through tickets in BF control panel and pms here on BTCtalk.

Loved the service until losing some coins and not a word from support for so long despite numerous attempts to reach them.

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November 14, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
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sounds like you got phished, can't really blame bitcoinfog for that. this is the real one:  fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion

Well, I got the link from the real website www.bitcoinfog.com/ and as another user pointed out they previously linked to a phishing site.

A hijack attempt seems to be in progress. The .onion address is hard to reach (DoS?) while the gate.bitcoinfog.com clearnet site propagates a phishing page, terminated in phc6.onion (I don't want to propagate the full address).
It seems the hackers have compromised bitcoinfog's own clearnet DNS and are controlling the gate.bitcoinfog.com address, at least.
Upon logging in with a test account, this message is received:

http://i58.tinypic.com/rwo4jr.jpg


There are many people who have reported the same thing so maybe there is something wrong. And I absolutely do blame BitcoinFog when the phishing link came from their site.
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November 14, 2014, 11:53:16 PM
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im now login on http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion, and they update service url to http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion
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November 15, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
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My password has also been changed after I deposited some BTC into my account and logged out. I have been using the same password for several days and never had a login error until now, so somebody who is not me has taken control of my account.
Also, after depositing the bitcoin, it was an hour and a half I could still log in to my account, the bitcoin had still not shown up even though my wallet from where I deposited the BTC showed 15 network confirmations.

I used the new address that has been updated on bitcoinfog.com, the first post on this thread, and Bitcoinfog's twitter.

So, what's going on? We have 3 addresses that all seem to take us to Bitcoinfog: http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion/ , http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ , and http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion/ . I have a separate account that I'm testing the situation with.

If you're logged in to http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion and open http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion in a new tab, you have to enter your username and password, instead of being served the home screen if you open the same address you logged into in a new tab. This is probably just how the login portal works.

Any changes you make using http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion/ (eg a new support message, or a new wallet address) are immediately reflected on http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion and vice versa. The information is also identical (identical wallet address codes).
If you log in to http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ , and then try to log in to http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion without waiting long enough, you get the message saying Wait 5 minutes before next login.

So it seems that all three addresses in this post are sending to and receiving from information from the same database(s).

im now login on http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion, and they update service url to http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion
This has changed. The message about the new URL, if you log in to http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion , the message says the new URL is http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion/ . If you log in to http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion/ , it also has the very same message. However if you log in to http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion/ , you have the same message except it says the URL is http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion/ .

What's missing from this situation is a new post on this thread from Akemashite Omedetou explaining the change. There is a twitter post approx 15hrs ago and the aforementioned messages that appear when you log in to the 3 Bitcoinfog tor onion addresses, but no new forum post. This might not mean anything, though.

I really hope they haven't gone rouge/been taken control of. The most optimistic outlook is that they are changing people's passwords who deposit BTC as a temporary measure to protect accounts while something is going on. Or a third party has been hijacking accounts. If this is what's happening, they really should know about it.

We will just have to wait and see what happens.

If anybody has Bitcoinfog's public key saved from before this update, please check it matches up with the new public key and signature.

If anybody has any other tor onion addresses that lead to Bitcoinfog and seem to be linked the same way as the three I have described in this post, please post them.

This is the message that appears on http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion/?page=index and http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/?page=index
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The service is upgrading to a new url: http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion. Please update your bookmars.

The old url will function for some time, but will ultimately be taken offline soon.

We have been closely monitoring our service in the light of recent Onymous-related seizures.
At this time it does not seem like we have been affected by these events, however the questionable circumstances of the official story about how the servers were found are nevertheless alarming.
We have decided to make additional changes to our security model, and as a part of these precautions we have decided to change the .onion url to a new one.
It's possible that we are going to be changing this url much more often in the future.
Since there are great dangers of not knowing the right url (and being a victim of phishing attack), we advice all users to take extreme caution at keeping track of the right url, and the best way to do that is to check our PGP key.
This key has been known for a long time and has since not changed.
Every message about future addresses, as well as this one, are always going to be signed with the proper key.

A signed PGP message proving the authenticity can be found here: http://pastebin.com/L0NKMmvM

This is the message that appears on http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion/?page=index
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The service is upgrading to a new url: http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion. Please update your bookmars.

The old url will function for some time, but will ultimately be taken offline soon.

We have been closely monitoring our service in the light of recent Onymous-related seizures.
At this time it does not seem like we have been affected by these events, however the questionable circumstances of the official story about how the servers were found are nevertheless alarming.
We have decided to make additional changes to our security model, and as a part of these precautions we have decided to change the .onion url to a new one.
It's possible that we are going to be changing this url much more often in the future.
Since there are great dangers of not knowing the right url (and being a victim of phishing attack), we advice all users to take extreme caution at keeping track of the right url, and the best way to do that is to check our PGP key.
This key has been known for a long time and has since not changed.
Every message about future addresses, as well as this one, are always going to be signed with the proper key.

A signed PGP message proving the authenticity can be found here: http://pastebin.com/L0NKMmvM


Update:
Logged in to http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ , I sent a message using their support request form and they got back to me (bottom message is first):

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Yes, this is our new url. There is a linked to a PGP signed message on the index page to prove this.

shaderkabia:

Is http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion for real or is this a phished website? I need to mix about 1BTC and would rather not lose it

Again, if anybody still has their PGP public key saved from before they changed their tor onion address, could they please verify they are still using the same key?
I know I really should have saved their public key when I first signed up to the service, I'm new to all this super private internet stuff.


sounds like you got phished, can't really blame bitcoinfog for that. this is the real one:  fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion

Well, I got the link from the real website www.bitcoinfog.com/ and as another user pointed out they previously linked to a phishing site.

A hijack attempt seems to be in progress. The .onion address is hard to reach (DoS?) while the gate.bitcoinfog.com clearnet site propagates a phishing page, terminated in phc6.onion (I don't want to propagate the full address).
It seems the hackers have compromised bitcoinfog's own clearnet DNS and are controlling the gate.bitcoinfog.com address, at least.
Upon logging in with a test account, this message is received:

http://i58.tinypic.com/rwo4jr.jpg


There are many people who have reported the same thing so maybe there is something wrong. And I absolutely do blame BitcoinFog when the phishing link came from their site.

The same thing has happened to me. As I've written in my post, I've used another account to message them logged in to the old http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion and got a message back saying that  http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion really is their new URL. Since a couple of other people have had this happen to them recently, I think it's likely that a third party has been hijacking user accounts.
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November 17, 2014, 06:04:39 AM
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Hello. Bitcoin Fog change service url to http://fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion
http://i.imgur.com/swcLGl6.png
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November 17, 2014, 06:40:13 AM
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I tried logging in on all 3 addresses, no success. And I still haven't received my coins.

Waiting for an admin to clear things up in this thread. Doesn't make sense to have 2 "new" addresses, so it's hackers trying to get more BTC until I'm assured otherwise. The twitter account could be hacked as well for all we know, unless it's all just some evasive measures against Onymous/whatever... I just want the BTC back, that's all I care. And what about the phc6.onion link?

P.S. I don't have the PGP addresses, didn't think I'd need them. Also don't know about the BTC traffic on Blockchain, it's all pretty new to me too.
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November 17, 2014, 11:03:26 AM
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It's always a good idea to save the PGP public key of anyone you think you might like to deal with, once you find where it's listed, and to verify it against something they've signed.

I sent the Fog a long message the other day using my shaderkabia account outlining my case, providing evidence the account which password got changed by someone other than me really is my account and I really did not forget my password.
Logged in to Bitcoinfog with my shaderkabia account today to find that the support message history has been wiped (again, not by me).

And there's these new accounts who have signed up only to post the alternate new address that also gets you to Bitcoin fog. There's no explanation for the multiple addresses anywhere.

I'm sorry to say this, but I very much doubt that an admin is ever going to come on to clear this up. If I were a betting man, to give the original makers of Bitcoinfog the the benefit of the doubt, I would say that they've been fucked. A gun held to their head/knife to their throat, blackmail, or whatever, forced to hand over their twitter password, forum password, private key(s) and all access to their servers. It definitely looks like they have been fucked.
That, or they've gone rogue. Which means we're the ones who have been fucked.

Unless somebody can verify that they are still using the service, depositing, mixing and withdrawing BTC with no issues?
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November 21, 2014, 07:27:32 AM
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I've also been phished I believe, via the "official website" as nothing else makes any sense whatsoever.

I made a deposit which didn't arrive.  I checked the deposit address and this is different to the one on my account and the one I previously used.

My issue is that I know the time/date when I made the deposit and I found the address on the website.  I've checked my browser history and I visited http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ at that time and I remember I copied the address for bitcoin fog from here, I then used the address from my account to send the btc.

If I have indeed been phished it is entirely due to the address provided on their website as nothing else makes sense. 

A few others seem to have echoed the same as what I've said here...
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November 21, 2014, 09:56:47 AM
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As i wrote in another threat,

i was at bitcoin.org, (believe it or not, thats was the one time i hardly checked the site) and deposited there  a small amount. Well, i can see that my money arrived, but i can`t withdraw... It says i don`t have enough BTC. Maybe a nice try to convince ppl to transfer more money.
However, sometimes my balance shows just a zero for a really short time... No answers of the support

Just one thing i found when i looked more closely to the site: There stand i can request after SOME TIME a withdraw. "Some time" can be a veeery stretchable term.

I still hope to get my BTC back some day Cheesy
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November 23, 2014, 09:41:01 PM
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Made a 2 BTC deposit to Fog last week and the next morning I went to login to my account and get the same error message other users are reporting. 

Service is temporarily unavailable.

Created a 2nd account to message their support which is only way I know to contact them without a reply now for 3+ days.
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