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February 05, 2015, 10:29:39 PM
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Same thing happened to me. My withdrawal from bitcoin fog has never showed up at the address I sent it to and blockchain also shows nothing. DO NOT USE BITCOINFOG.
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February 06, 2015, 01:31:09 AM
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why would anyone with half a brain use this site?  Huh
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February 06, 2015, 03:08:52 AM
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My first and second transactions (deposit+withdrawal) through bitcoinfog went smoothly a few weeks ago, BUT the third transaction a day ago did not: I was scammed -- heed the warning! The deposit I made never showed up in the account. The blockchain shows the coins received at the deposit address and transacted a few hours later to a bunch of destination addresses, but account balance was not updated. Until a few hours ago I was able to still log in into the account using both foggeddriztrcar2.onion and fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion. Contacted support yesterday and no reply. At this point, my login credentials are rejected. Coins still remained in the account. Total loss: existing account balance plus the new deposit.

An identical incident of not receiving the deposit has been reported in this thread a few months ago (in addition to more numerous reports of failed withdrawals and account credential changes). The conclusion that was already stated in this thread earlier is that bitcoinfog does selective scamming on later transactions (perhaps the scam is triggered by transaction amount): first they obtain the user's trust by correctly processing the user's first few transactions (which are expected to be small since the user is cautious) and then scamming the user when the user entrusts them with a larger amount. A lucrative strategy.

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(1) There is a curious difference between successful transactions and scam transactions: the transacted amounts from deposit address to bitcoinfog pool addresses in the successful transactions (I had a sample of 3 of them) are small (<0.5 BTC), but on the scam transaction, the amounts are an order of magnitude larger (2-5 BTC), except one address. Maybe this is just a coincidence, who knows.
(2) At foggeddriztrcar2.onion the 'news' message says the site moved to foggeddriztrcar2.onion, but at fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion the almost identical messages says it moved to fogcoren4tt6pz4m.onion. Suspicious.
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February 07, 2015, 12:16:02 AM
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Message on bitcoinfog:

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There have been payment delays during the last 2 days. We have been working on the problem and it is now resolved. All outstanding depositsand withdrawals are completed. Sorry for this delay, it was caused by a technical problem in our hardware infrastructure.

Anyone still missing btc?


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February 07, 2015, 06:37:50 AM
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WARNING!!!  I sent a large amount (>2BTC) and waited for 6 confirmations, them 12, then 16, still never shows up in my bitfog account.  after 33 confirmations in the blockchain, it dumped all my BTC to a bunch of separate wallet addresses,  The secondary dumps got 15 confirmations, and my BTC still is never even showing up as deposited on their site.  I am using the correct URL http://foggeddriztrcar2.onion Not a phishing site.  I sent messages to support and got no reply.  Either their site is seriously messed up or they are a scam, either way DO NOT DEPOSIT ANY BTC THERE AT THIS TIME.  If and when I successfully recover the funds, I WILL update this message/thread!

See identical post from Abtcuser above.  This is not a one off problem.  Either a SCAM or something very wrong.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!

DO *NOT* USE BITCOINFOG UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED!

YOU WILL KNOW HERE WHEN THIS IS RESOLVED


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There have been payment delays during the last 2 days. We have been working on the problem and it is now resolved. All outstanding depositsand withdrawals are completed. Sorry for this delay, it was caused by a technical problem in our hardware infrastructure.

Anyone still missing btc?



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February 07, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
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So what mixing service is reliable enough to use right now?
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February 07, 2015, 07:35:55 PM
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I sent a decent amount of coin last night to fog. To make a long story short, after about 20 confirmations I started getting a little nervous and I found this thread. Read this after sending those coins is a quick way to a heart attack. Go to bed, wake up in the morning, my coins are there. I just sent them away from fog which I will update when my other wallet receives them.
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February 07, 2015, 09:15:52 PM
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UPDATE to BitCoin Fog issues

So After a deposit went missing, it did eventually show up.  The deposit showed up into my bitcoinfog account after about 12 hours and >40 confirmations.   As far as the withdrawal I set a zero delay and 6 hour max span (minimum settings), and started the withdrawal process.  After waiting 6hrs there was still no evidence of the transactions showing up.  After about 24hrs the transactions finally showed up in my wallet. 

Technical problems do happen in the real world, I understand that.  But when you are dealing with peoples money and trust, a little bit of communication goes a long way. 


Next time I need such service, I will probably try bitmixer.io as most people seem to be happy with them

So the conclusion from *MY* experience (YMMV) is that Bitcoinfog is NOT a scam, but they are having technical issues which makes them unreliable at best, and do not communicate with their users or respond to support inquiries.  They have last been active on this thread in November 2014, and the same on their twitter account.   After this experience and reading this thread, I probably will not use them again, nor could I really recommend them.
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February 08, 2015, 12:44:41 AM
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I have a problem. Since bitcoinfog doesn't seem to be secure right now I tried bitmixer.io. I entered the forward addresses and everything, but in the end when I click the button "mix my coins" nothing happens. Tried firefox, chrome and tor... I dunno if it's something temporary or if the site just sucks?

So what other reliable bitcoin mixer out there can I use?
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February 08, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
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Just an update on Fog... All my coins made it to their destination in a timely matter. Maybe not as fast as we are used to, but surely not some huge delay to throw out all the good they have done up to this point. I will continue to do business with them... Expecting nothing but perfection is unrealistic, problems occur with all systems from time to time.
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February 10, 2015, 09:06:32 AM
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*Notification of slow transfer speeds to FOG account*

Began last night depositing to two addresses on my FOG account totaling more than 1 BTC. After two hours I checked the confirmations on the transactions and they were both above the 6 needed to process but no balance in the FOG account.

Checked the account again after 12 hours, transactions have >50 confirmations but no balance in the FOG account.

Messaged support, no reply.

I've checked my URL link, seems legit and haven't experienced the change of password some users are experiencing.

Hopefully, there are some technical issues which are slowing down the process.

Will keep this post updated.
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February 10, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
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I was using this service for a while and now all of a sudden it's not working for me. I made a deposit way over 12 hours ago with way over 50 confirmations and now it's not in my account. I saved up for these coins. The SUPPORT is not replying to any of my messages and now that I'm reading all of the other posts about people having trouble getting their money, I'm worried that Bitcoin Fog has ripped me off hard. Is there anyone from Bitcoin Fog who reads these forums/gives a shit??
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February 10, 2015, 02:28:12 PM
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I sent support message telling them to release a signed message. I still have hope but this lack of communication is outlandish. Been sitting over 16 hours now. Im sure most people need coins and cant wait on lousy support to ensure safety. My coins never went out from my deposit address like normal, just in. Makes me think their having issues with wallets.

Edit: i see this thread views going up. Please respond I know there are others out there. Including staff.

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February 10, 2015, 05:38:08 PM
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Hello, I have had the same issue with only a little amount of bigger transactions coming through. I got worried and tought I was scammed, but after waiting a couple of hours after the "FINISHED" state at the BitcoinFog site, I had all the money in my wallet, that I was sending from the beginning.

So I think they're NOT scamming. More probably having problems with delays in their services, as stated on their website a couple days ago.

If you're still having the problem; just wait. Don't panic or anything. Im sure you will get the money soon. You shouldn't have to wait for days, but a couple of hours extra I think.

(Sorry for not the best english Tongue).
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February 10, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
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Most of us have been waiting 12+ hours for deposits not withdrawls. I still have faith. Thanks for posting it gives us some form of security. Id prefer a signed message on the homepage though.

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February 10, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
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3 days now my deposit has not shown up.
Support is dead or arrested my guess.

I can see the coins being mixed and withdrawn on block chain too.
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February 10, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
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3 days now my deposit has not shown up.
Support is dead or arrested my guess.

I can see the coins being mixed and withdrawn on block chain too.

This worries me. My coins arent mixed yet still sitting on the deposit wallet. They are not scamming they make too much cash. Im now worried maybe hacked?

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February 10, 2015, 06:32:10 PM
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No BTC in my FOG wallet, no deposits showing in my account.

BTC has been mixed (shown on blockchain).

No answer from support.

I've waited 24 hours, hopefully they are having technical problems. Hope this gets resolved. I have faith.
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February 10, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
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Just signed up to let people know that my coins went through eventually today. Transferred around 9PM GMT last night, and were showing up when I got home from work about 7PM today, about 22 hours later. They hadn't come through when I checked this morning around 9:30AM, so that's at least 12+ hours where they weren't showing up.
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February 10, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
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Thanks mine is approaching 24 so i still have hope Smiley.

Edit. Just went through. I wont be using for larger transactions till we get faster times again. Def still safe so far but just be warned it might take awhile.

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