A generous act, who wants some merit?

[lin0sspice]

Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members....

So you are saying I have no right to get merits (I have two red trust FYI) on my posts even if I create good posts? May be you are right or...?


http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/1432468.html

I and other few members always consider merit should not have anything to do with trust by the way. Merit should be awarded to posts which worth receiving merit.

You're an anomaly. Good to see you embracing it.

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[lin0sspice]

I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea?

Just when account sales became under control...
@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend.

[lin0sspice]

Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one.

I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here.

You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up:
- shitposters
- scammers
- spammers
- anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy

Okay, I will stand up not just for merit (not hypocrite I want to earn merit) but because I believe that I deserve to be rank as jr. member.
I'm not shitposter. Certainly not scammer. I'm not spammer. I'm trustworthy and have no plan to do anything stupid on this forum or in anywhere else...BUT I'm a bounty hunter and many think less of people like me and most thinking we're just shitting on BTT forum even though some of us trying to do good and contribute in our own way.

Do you:
- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon?

Yes, I do. This forum is for people interested in bitcoin and want to learn;to speak freely and be able to hear from other people with same interest  about bitcoin and blockchain.

- Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating?

I agree. Every forum have spammer and shitposter, so why not just give them negative rating and when they reach the max negative rating they will be banned. Not just demolished and  demoted to newbie all those without merit.

- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

Okay, I'm sorry I disagree with the word dictatorship but let's just say that this forum like blockchain and the idea behind bitcoin should be decentralized and egalitarian. All are fair and equal. Those with merit shouldn't be treated better it's like government official have more say than those private citizen or like financial institution monopolized economy.

I agree, I'm not good in conveying my thoughts and I only comment to those subject I know which those in higher ranks may not find interesting but hey I'm following rules and I think I deserve more than a newbie rank because I already earned the jr member rank.

2 merits. A lot of effort went into that post, merit deserved. I hope that you serve as a good member on the forum.

[coin8coin8]

Do you:
- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon?
- Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating?
- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case.

Enjoy!

First declare, I don't want your Merit, don't send it to me.

1. I certainly believe in the core values of the forum, which I think is decentralized, free, fair and equality.
2. The members I have seen as the Red Trust, have sufficient evidence to justify the negative trust.
3. Abuse of power is everywhere, but a reasonable system can put power into cages. I believe that even if it is a DT member, if the abuse of power occurs, it will be supervised by other members.

But you are marked because of the abuse of Merit, it seems that the evidence was sufficient.

[nareal109]

I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea?

Just when account sales became under control...
@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend.

The new merit system is a "newbies-racist system". Everyone look at me like a "merit hunter in covetousness"
That's all my opinion.

[jointherevolution]

This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action.

[lin0sspice]

I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea?

Just when account sales became under control...
@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend.

The new merit system is a "newbies-racist system". Everyone look at me like a "merit hunter in covetousness"
That's all my opinion.

Newbies are not a race.

[lin0sspice]

This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action.

That would be called imperialism, a form of centralization!

[anchuoinhhoc]

This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action.

That would be called imperialism, a form of centralization!

I think merit generosity is not about building an army for them. but you are for the people who deserve it. I'm glad you did it for the community

[xyxyrizcah]

actually this policy has benefits because it reduces the amount of spam in the bitcoin forum, but many people who receive the consequences of such actions, including me, I always post with applicable conditions and never out of topic, I always learn and find more info about bitcoin . so I ask you to give merit for my account. thank you

[hilawnasaging]

Because of the new merit system, the members from junior members will become newbie. They will have a hard time earning that merit for sure. I wish that the new system will only take effect for the newbie, not the former junior members.

[zemuks]

I think this restriction does not solve the problem of shitposting, 1 Merit not enough. It only harms newcomers. I'm personally don't want to buy merit. Merit it's something that you need to earn. But in the situation what I see in local tread nobody want to share merit because in the black market it cost around 7-10$. I see now a lot of people who will just buy it from the high-rank sellers for their army of junior member. I personally saw a guy bought 60 merits for his farm in the telegram chat. So tell me is this new merit system solve the problem? I think no...
If we want to stop an army of Junior member bots, we need to add more restriction.
As I see the main problem is bounty campaign with encouraging people to make more post or bump ANN tread.

There a few solutions which I see:
1) Don't take Jr. Member in signature bounty only member+.
2) Too many messages with social reports and  "joined"? Encourage all bounty managers to use Google forms for weekly reports.
 
This forum definitely needs some rule to stop the army of bots and shitposting.   But in this war between forum admins and an army of bots there a  lot of victim from newcomers and usual people.

[aejontargaryen]

I don't know what's going on with the ranking system but I would say its hardly working. I'm a project developer and an advocate of decentralization, freedom, and a crypto economy. Now somehow I am at the same ranking of the trolls and bots that I struggle to sift thru on our project thread. I understand that its hard to filter out shit, but I've created and maintained a project thread for the last 9 months - surely that is of at least the value to post images.

[flying_bit]

Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist.

Just an FYI for everyone, it wasn't because you made a post about merit in the past 2 days.  It was for another post in Meta that was very useful, which I found after looking through your posts.  I wasn't kidding when I said I'd be looking for good newbies to give merit to, but they have to be for good posts. 

I'm not going to be giving out merits for posts from newbies talking about the recent changes in the merit system.  I don't trust any of them not to revert to previous shitposting behavior after they get that 1 merit to carry them over the threshold to Jr. Member status.  What I've seen is a bunch of shitposters making the best posts they've ever made (or that they think they ever made) in an effort to get out of newbie hell. 

This is basically the same thing that happened back in January; it's obvious; and I hope other people don't fall for these dishonest displays of distraction from the rest of the nonsense they've shat out on the forum.  I'll be checking post histories before giving out merits at least until this Meta-fire burns itself out.

[lin0sspice]

Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist.

You shouldn't have to say thank you for a privilege you should already have.

[xtraelv]

If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not?

This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so.

Actually your posts look like someone who bought their account and is unfamiliar with the conduct usually expected on the forum.

Merit begging is something which is not acceptable and this thread will promote just that.

Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.

Having looked at your recent posting history it is obvious that you are unfamiliar with the rules and etiquette such as multi-posting and the purpose of merit. Something that is suspect when it comes to an account that has been around for as long as it has.

It indicates to me that it is likely to be a bought account of  someone who has had problems before with their other alts or who is oblivious of the etiquette and rules of the forum.

This is what you said in another thread and is inconsistent with your "I abide by the rules" stance:
https://archive.fo/ZYgLd

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I do not agree with the merit system so I merited those contributing positively to our thread.
If a negative trust is really the course of action here, then so be it. It makes no difference to me or the project I am running.
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Suchmoon had a great suggestion:

Post a message signed with this address:

Btc address: 1BgbrQVTn7Z1AApimu7PzqK2Tk9CtwtXGo

Until then I view your account as probably being bought and associated with these likely hacked accounts :

Let's not be naive here. What it looks like to me is those accounts have been employed by you to bump your thread with fake volume/comments. Is it a coincidence that all the accounts of that page look to be hacked?

These accounts below are just from the last three pages of your thread and have all recently had their details reset and have woken up from a long period of activity:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=220679     Tulpa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165124     dark143i
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29369 speedracerrick69
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72232     Arrogance
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25401     hobo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=314785 Eirecoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102512     bnjmnkent
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199385     macioman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162055 missworld
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=209858     dioncodot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119698     alkuluku
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=27535     Donald_Norman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82082     weirdthall
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205508 catcoinminer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=170247 Cesar22
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298495 cryptzilla
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=313787 glenntalbot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29204 sareea
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=115980 hany103
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136849 slap666
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138155 hffule
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25406 ibisy70
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=495378 d-leit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316024 sunnyxiong
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218747 screenman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=246731 agf
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137126 quentinn
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=198543 alquinte
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=394451 Sasha00
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=132669 Xtremist
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98101 ivann

[mudyak99]

- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon?
- Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating?
- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case.

Enjoy!

I think this is best way for real player, because too much greedy people who try hard to spam with account more than 1 to join project.

[lin0sspice]

If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not?

This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so.

Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.

Sudden? Are you aware of the project I have been operating over the last year?
If not, do some reading instead of wasting your time posting garbage like this.

[Elqui]

yes it’s kinda unfair and kinda right. So for me its both. I guess they just done it because some people just spam the forum for the signature campaign. Its unfair because only the lower ranks here only suffers and merit sources doesn’t notice those great post and only consider those “famous” ones who already got plenty of merits. I think we should have something like this more so lower ranks can earn merits too.