[TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks!

[Coin-1]

Well that was quick! Have you manage to retrieve already all the user profiles for all TXs right up to this morning in order to do this ?

Yes, I prepared the analysis in advance. I created this thread as soon as the new dump of merit transactions has been published.

Also, I'm not sure why their are only 53 on the top 200 list..

Now there are 200 members in the list.

Good job, you marked already the known or safe givers as well i see, so it will make it easier to run some check on these. 

I wrote the merit sources known to me in bold, now I just marked the red tagged members in italic.

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[DrDoctor1234]

Cool info! Interesting how 150-200 have all pretty much provided two merit to newbies, which shows there isn't that many people sharing the love for newbies out there (or there are alot of trash newbie accounts and no one wants to give them merit!)

I generally lurk more than post, but these 'rule changes' that, from what I can tell, are meant to prevent spamming, seem to be getting everyone super annoyed. Like your level/rank makes any difference to posting or reading this forum?!

[Jet Cash]

Cool info! Interesting how 150-200 have all pretty much provided two merit to newbies, which shows there isn't that many people sharing the love for newbies out there (or there are alot of trash newbie accounts and no one wants to give them merit!)

There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

[YOSHIE]

On September 17, 2018, the new enhanced restrictions and requirements for newbies have been introduced on the BitcoinTalk forum. In particular, nowadays Newbie must have sufficient activity and earn at least one merit for ranking up to Jr. Member. A lot of meritless users were demoted to Newbies, and now they want to receive one merit for restoring their rank.

Maybe it can be arranged like this a little so that it looks good and knows the Red Trust and Trust

It is predictable that the merit traders and account farmers immediately became active, and they started distributing per one merit for clearly garbage messages or reports. However, everybody knows that each merit should be given only for a useful post.

Therefore I decided to create TOP-200 of the members who support decent newbies which make useful posts and contribute to the forum development. Of course, the list likely contains merit traders and account farmers, but I suppose that most of these members give merits to newbies well-deservedly.


The table below shows the user name, his current rank and the quantity of newbies who were supported by this member since the new rules have been introduced on the forum. I will write the known merit sources in bold, the currently reg tagged members will be marked in italic.

Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / Red trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)	dumbtool45	Senior Member	59 newbies
2)	nick777	Hero Member	48 newbies
3)	zanzibar	Hero Member	45 newbies
4)	foserfox	Legendary	44 newbies
5)	Vinylriff	Member	21 newbies
6)	lin0sspice	Legendary	13 newbies
7)	Slark	Legendary	11 newbies
8}	HasHe	Hero Member	9 newbies
9)	cacucacok91	Hero Member	6 newbies
10)	Mysterious01	Full Member	5 newbies
11)	Prettymie	Full Member	4 newbies
12)	daihaxenia	Full Member	3 newbies
13)	Maryshka91	Senior Member	3 newbies
14)	james90	Member	3 newbies
15)	Sahabat_	Full Member	3 newbies
16)	dakilangisajaja	Member	3 newbies
17)	kpcian	Hero Member	3 newbies
18)	mohammadzayadi	Member	3 newbies
19)	goraset	Legendary	3 newbies
20)	sesedama	Full Member	3 newbies
21)	Welckomtome	Full Member	2 newbies
22)	Nagasaki	Full Member	2 newbies
23)	dindadida	Full Member	2 newbies
24)	zaenanni	Full Member	2 newbies
25)	MOSSAD	Senior Member	2 newbies
26)	Kazi Sajib	Full Member	2 newbies
27)	FeelTheBeat	Hero Member	2 newbies
28)	huanzhong644306	Jr. Member	2 newbies
29)	Bougenvil	Full Member	2 newbies
30)	RoooooR	Legendary	2 newbies
31)	Aleister Crowley	Hero Member	2 newbies

Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / Trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)	OgNasty	Legendary	40 newbies
2)	unamis76	Legendary	29 newbies
3)	qwk	Legendary	28 newbies
4)	paxmao	Senior Member	18 newbies
5)	krogothmanhattan	Hero Member	15 newbies
6)	eddie13	Hero Member	5 newbies
7)	The Pharmacist	Legendary	5 newbies
8}	philipma1957	Legendary	5 newbies
9)	Perrigeni	Member	4 newbies
10)	LoyceV	Legendary	3 newbies

Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)	bones261	Legendary	18 newbies
3)	radnom	Senior Member	13 newbies
4)	Halab	Member	12 newbies
5)	mole0815	Senior Member	11 newbies
6)	dbshck	Legendary	10 newbies
7)	NILIcoin	Hero Member	9 newbies
8}	nkampala	Member	8 newbies
9)	teramit	Legendary	8 newbies
10)	pavan@hosur	Senior Member	7 newbies
11)	babicena14	Full Member	7 newbies
12)	yo-blin	Legendary	7 newbies
13)	hugeblack	Senior Member	7 newbies
14)	Moloch	Hero Member	6 newbies
15)	cryptolord2077	Full Member	6 newbies
16)	jjoshua	Full Member	6 newbies
17)	BadgerregdaB	Full Member	6 newbies
18)	markiz73	Hero Member	6 newbies
19)	PavelRostov	Full Member	6 newbies
20)	amorfuse	Member	5 newbies
21)	Bynaneller	Member	5 newbies
22)	Kuflama	Member	5 newbies
23)	Asurmen	Hero Member	5 newbies
24)	Divere1996	Member	5 newbies
25)	Capradina	Hero Member	5 newbies
26)	Antiplus999	Member	5 newbies
27)	Partisson	Member	5 newbies
28)	DdmrDdmr	Hero Member	5 newbies
29)	Dorbaraco	Member	5 newbies
30)	xtraelv	Hero Member	5 newbies
31)	MrVuuu	Full Member	5 newbies
32)	MagicSmoker	Full Member	5 newbies
33)	kryptqnick	Legendary	5 newbies
34)	Flying Hellfish	Legendary	5 newbies
35)	TimeTeller	Hero Member	5 newbies
36)	TheICE007	Full Member	4 newbies
37)	nityans	Member	4 newbies
38)	Correlll	Member	4 newbies
39)	M.S.I	Member	4 newbies
40)	BTCGirl	Senior Member	4 newbies
41)	Xsinx	Senior Member	4 newbies
42)	saberflome	Member	4 newbies
43)	lowbander80	Legendary	4 newbies
44)	etkisizeleman	Member	4 newbies
45)	DentIt	Member	4 newbies
46)	heritage35	Member	4 newbies
47)	Delphinus	Full Member	4 newbies
48)	MetalEngine	Legendary	4 newbies
49)	DarkStar_	Legendary	4 newbies
50)	ongahawak	Senior Member	3 newbies
51)	kursunkalem	Jr. Member	3 newbies
52)	luckybit1	Full Member	3 newbies
53)	jackflag	Senior Member	3 newbies
54)	criptocash	Jr. Member	3 newbies
55)	Kremon	Full Member	3 newbies
56)	gospodin	Member	3 newbies
57)	daladno12	Member	3 newbies
58)	Adenthove	Member	3 newbies
59)	gerjiss	Member	3 newbies
60)	rogovih	Member	3 newbies
61)	cerberus5424	Member	3 newbies
62)	Skroojee	Member	3 newbies
63)	solkinsolali	Member	3 newbies
64)	Rostock	Member	3 newbies
65)	bryle10	Full Member	3 newbies
66)	Esra92	Member	3 newbies
67)	Emilyp	Member	3 newbies
68)	ACP	Hero Member	3 newbies
69)	Dim4ik	Senior Member	3 newbies
70)	Turbo-S	Full Member	3 newbies
71)	CryptoToxicAvenger	Full Member	3 newbies
72)	BonTonPlease	Senior Member	3 newbies
73)	goku1525	Member	3 newbies
74)	durudara	Member	3 newbies
75)	kaysersozee	Full Member	3 newbies
76)	StephKram	Member	3 newbies
77)	adiebitsler	Hero Member	3 newbies
78)	Stradivarioos	Member	3 newbies
79)	posiandu	Full Member	3 newbies
80)	engrlodi	Member	3 newbies
81)	Yury1	Senior Member	3 newbies
82)	pandukelana2712	Senior Member	3 newbies
83)	Paredao	Legendary	3 newbies
84)	HappyCaptain	Full Member	2 newbies
85)	RB25	Hero Member	2 newbies
86)	PROdotBITCOIN	Full Member	2 newbies
87)	agenlaptop	Full Member	2 newbies
88)	tiang_tower	Full Member	2 newbies
89)	bms2013	Legendary	2 newbies
90)	Danica22	Full Member	2 newbies
91)	donn2012	Full Member	2 newbies
92)	maranello1561	Full Member	2 newbies
93)	Raidal	Full Member	2 newbies
94)	Cianix	Member	2 newbies
95)	leatutz	Full Member	2 newbies
96)	manfredmann	Jr. Member	2 newbies
97)	artem30011994	Member	2 newbies
98)	huxdy	Full Member	2 newbies
99)	erikoy	Member	2 newbies
100)	nelson4lov	Senior Member	2 newbies
101)	meysonYo	Member	2 newbies
102)	chillcott	Full Member	2 newbies
103)	Enataramel	Jr. Member	2 newbies
104)	Halinsely	Jr. Member	2 newbies
105)	UltraPlay	Senior Member	2 newbies
106)	umbara ardian	Senior Member	2 newbies
107)	Affilate User	Senior Member	2 newbies
108)	kelaxo76r	Jr. Member	2 newbies
109)	nerttor	Jr. Member	2 newbies
110)	gbtroll99	Member	2 newbies
111)	popox	Jr. Member	2 newbies
112)	Maamejane	Member	2 newbies
113)	KLoUN287	Jr. Member	2 newbies
114)	Belmyl	Jr. Member	2 newbies
115)	ExFrozze	Jr. Member	2 newbies
116)	Benjamin2503	Member	2 newbies
117)	aderidwan98	Member	2 newbies
118)	Chrinday	Jr. Member	2 newbies
119)	teradont	Jr. Member	2 newbies
120)	RenatMironov	Jr. Member	2 newbies
121)	Cojiro	Member	2 newbies
122)	Singbatak	Full Member	2 newbies
123)	twocow	Member	2 newbies
124)	cryptoking33	Jr. Member	2 newbies
125)	camric09	Member	2 newbies
126)	nicolebtccrypto	Member	2 newbies
127)	mitsarasss	Senior Member	2 newbies
128)	bitalk3	Jr. Member	2 newbies
129)	travwill	Senior Member	2 newbies
130)	ElegantCy	Full Member	2 newbies
131)	putriangel	Member	2 newbies
132)	@boutiuqe	Senior Member	2 newbies
133)	zoonosis	Member	2 newbies
134)	Ca$hmaker	Jr. Member	2 newbies
135)	Penting	Member	2 newbies
136)	olamidey	Full Member	2 newbies
137)	electrobit	Member	2 newbies
138)	edundayo	Member	2 newbies
139)	joker989898	Member	2 newbies
140)	Potato18	Member	2 newbies
141)	kaltar	Senior Member	2 newbies
142)	Ri Polok	Jr. Member	2 newbies
143)	arun9900	Full Member	2 newbies
144)	w0lverine	Jr. Member	2 newbies
145)	malcovixeffect	Senior Member	2 newbies
146)	safarabela	Jr. Member	2 newbies
147)	septi.JR	Senior Member	2 newbies
148)	maculeth	Member	2 newbies
149)	COCOMARTIN	Jr. Member	2 newbies
150)	Gyromancer	Member	2 newbies
151)	Jjunpat	Member	2 newbies
152)	Olatunjex	Full Member	2 newbies
153)	macit800	Member	2 newbies
154)	ribowo76	Full Member	2 newbies
155)	marcbitcoins	Full Member	2 newbies
156)	Danrose	Jr. Member	2 newbies
157)	sergio red	Full Member	2 newbies
158)	esmanthra	Senior Member	2 newbies
159)	ekiller	Hero Member	2 newbies
160)	Aivaryamal	Full Member	2 newbies

Total supported: 1637 newbies

^[1] - the rank that is based on the amount of merits regardless of the current activity


I remind, please do not beg merits from other members, otherwise you can be red tagged.

This post will be updated weekly.

I will publish monthly statistics.

Maybe it can be arranged like this a little so that it looks good and knows the Red Trust and Trust.

[MagicSmoker]

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"Hasn't Allah made various ways for me to give charity? ...even on one's genitals there are alms from servants. "
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Hmm... Allah wants servants to give alms to their master's genitals? Sign me up!

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Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / Red trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)	dumbtool45	Senior Member	59 newbies
2)	nick777	Hero Member	48 newbies

Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / Trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)	OgNasty	Legendary	40 newbies
2)	unamis76	Legendary	29 newbies

Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

	[User name / trust]	Current rank [1]	Quantity of newbies who received merit
10)	bones261	Legendary	18 newbies
13)	radnom	Senior Member	13 newbies

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Maybe it can be arranged like this a little so that it looks good and knows the Red Trust and Trust.

Please note the changes I made to your quoting to make your post more readable and less of a wall of text; you did not need to quote the entire list made by Coin-1 to illustrate the use of colored text to denote untrusted/trusted/neutral feedback. Also, don't use colored text for your reply as it almost always makes it less easy to read and greatly annoys some members (Jet Cash, in particular, is not fond of changing text color or size in a garish attempt to stand out - and many agree with him, including me).

[YOSHIE]

Please note the changes I made to your quoting to make your post more readable and less of a wall of text; you did not need to quote the entire list made by Coin-1 to illustrate the use of colored text to denote untrusted/trusted/neutral feedback. Also, don't use colored text for your reply as it almost always makes it less easy to read and greatly annoys some members (Jet Cash, in particular, is not fond of changing text color or size in a garish attempt to stand out - and many agree with him, including me).

Thanks for the advice?

Isn't this interesting to be seen as the original?

Except for color blind people who don't like color, From 100, maybe in  only 1 is color blind.

Thank you again for the advice of a good posting procedure.

I like beauty?

[LoyceV]

I thought I would have "supported" more Newbies than just 3, but indeed, after checking my merit history, this is correct. It is much easier to Merit higher ranks than finding the rare good Newbie posts.

The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

Even better: I try to do it as fast as possible
Example: 3 seconds in a row at 3 posts merited per second:

Code:

September 15, 2018, 04:59:32 PM: 1 to laszlo for Pizza for bitcoins?
September 15, 2018, 04:59:32 PM: 1 to Coding Enthusiast for Re: Coin Control in Electrum
September 15, 2018, 04:59:32 PM: 1 to shorena for How to sign a message?!
September 15, 2018, 04:59:31 PM: 1 to Vod for Re: Merit - one week later
September 15, 2018, 04:59:31 PM: 1 to Atalol for Storing Bitcoin - Please corect me if I'm wrong
September 15, 2018, 04:59:31 PM: 1 to cryptocrusher for My take on Merit
September 15, 2018, 04:59:30 PM: 1 to DannyHamilton for Re: Network fee estimation
September 15, 2018, 04:59:30 PM: 1 to Thirdspace for Re: How to sell Bitcoin on your Cell Phone from a Paper Wallet
September 15, 2018, 04:59:30 PM: 1 to ChiBitCTy for How to sell Bitcoin on your Cell Phone from a Cold Storage Paper Wallet 

[Alone055]

So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon? I mean, the changes are still too new, but the promotions are going in a very high speed. The people, that have never even thought about the concept (Merit system) itself, are being promoted right after the demotions only because they have started to "show" they care about it all, while they don't from the inside (at least most of them don't). And I'm not only talking about the ones who are farmers and are promoting their own accounts, but some other accounts are also getting into the crowd by such actions, which is not good for the community.

Maybe we should wait for some time before starting to do all this. Even if we see a new user posting something decent, we should take our time in taking the responsibility of promoting them to the next tier where they might start abusing the system again.


P.S: I don't intend to hurt anyone's feelings by saying any of this. My statements are general, and are not against any single user. Anyone reading this should not take any of it personally, please.

Arguments are welcome.

[coinlocket$]

Thankyou for the list, I can see many abusers here, it will a long work to report them all, also if you can update those data next week with next datas! It will be very fast way to find them out!

I've already found 2 abusers with this list, I will post the accusation later.

[mazdafunsun]

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

Agreed, the timing alone is not a solid criteria for abusers.

There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

It seems that puppet masters are rushing to regain control of their puppet army after new rules and this most likely will be their downfall in anycase

[krishnaverma]

Nice to read something positive in meta section here. Otherwise , it is usually filled with posts against merit system (these days against the recent change regarding jr member) .

[MagicSmoker]

So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon?
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For sure some are being too generous and/or naive. I purposefully went back to threads I have been following a long time and singled out some of the contributors there, rather than award most of my sMerits to newbies that showed up in meta to "praise" the new changes by "thermos."

Furthermore, I wrote a thread within a few hours of theymos' instituting the new merit requirements for jr. members that warned people to check the post history of any newbies before awarding them a merit to make sure they weren't (re-)enabling their ability to shitpost for sig campaigns, which is basically what you are saying here (so I naturally agree with you).

That particular cat is out of the bag at this point, though... Now I suppose we will just have to wait a month or two or six to see if the new merit requirement is actually effective at reducing spam megathreads.

[Piggy]

So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon?
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For sure some are being too generous and/or naive. 

Looks like some of these merited newbie got their merits from red trusted people, so as a result of some "private arrangement".

[xtraelv]

Some of the ranks are not quite correct for some of the members. For instance  - I ain't no Hero. 

[bungutko]

I think that was a good decision for some high ranking member to show compassion to those who really deserve to acquire even for 1 merit. Though, the rules are rules and we need to follow it as this has it's purpose that could change and improve the forum to be more free from spammers. I believe that by continuing the effort in contributing good informative post could harvest a merit reward unexpectedly. Just keep in doing what you believe in, for there will be time for you to be rewarded with your hardwork.

[eddie13]

Some of the ranks are not quite correct for some of the members. For instance  - I ain't no Hero.  

Because..

- the rank that is based on the amount of merits regardless of the current activity

And you have hero merits..

[DdmrDdmr]

I think that was a good decision for some high ranking member to show compassion to those who really deserve to acquire even for 1 merit. <…>

Compassion should not be part of the equation. Merit is not awarded on a compassion basis, but rather on the post’s content and, increasingly so (and even more now days), the poster’s posting history track. The main problem may reside in finding those to merit, and not being put-off in the process by those other posts that make your eyes sour. That is probably the main challenge of the non-merited with decent posts on their back: being spotted among all the large amount of non-contributive posts.

[PlusOne88]

There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

The site needs quality posts because it is really needed for a better advertising of products and or projects. And so many are just spamming and giving off merits to their alts just to rank it up. I think this system could probably go up in time where juniors will really be stripped off of their signature. And certainly this will help clean the system of newbies and juniors who are not really making good post. I think it will be good to see higher ranking forum member's posts in the site so that they can act as a good example.

[Iranud]

There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

The site needs quality posts because it is really needed for a better advertising of products and or projects. And so many are just spamming and giving off merits to their alts just to rank it up. I think this system could probably go up in time where juniors will really be stripped off of their signature. And certainly this will help clean the system of newbies and juniors who are not really making good post. I think it will be good to see higher ranking forum member's posts in the site so that they can act as a good example.

Nay. To keep making the forum stricter is a good idea. The system of the forum already handled that. It takes a lot to become a member. The ad already appropriated rewards to users depending on their ranks. That’s enough. If you want more rewards you do more.

[Coin-1]

My post on the first page has been updated. There are new members in the list. As I can see, 717 newbies received merit this week. Total supported 2354 newbies. Thanks!