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March 08, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
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Good job, Andreas. Donated a bit.
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March 08, 2014, 11:00:25 PM
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This guy is in his 60's, has had a stroke and looks after his 93 year old mother. His privacy has been invaded and who knows how much stress he is under. I don't think anyone is wasting their coins by donating a few dollars to him.

Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  Undecided
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March 08, 2014, 11:02:15 PM
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More than halfway to the goal I set of $50K.

I'm still pissed off at Pentax, though. (but I'll get over it, bud)
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March 08, 2014, 11:08:29 PM
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41 bitcoin HOLY SHIT.

This is going to be VERY good for the bitcoin communities reputation once it hits the news. (providing the media portrays it correctly)

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March 08, 2014, 11:20:38 PM
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Several times during the interview with AP, Nakamoto mistakenly referred to the currency as "bitcom," and as a single company, which it is not.

Which should be a red flag to anyone capable of some critical thinking.

You'd think that having been subject to a media frenzy he might have bothered to learn what it is he is supposed to have created. His 'I know nothing' routine smacked of someone trying to play the befuddled old man part a little too hard.

I have had the same impression.

And even more difficult to believe was that he has problems with speaking and understanding English - asking for Japanese-speaking reporter, talking in Japanese that he does not speak English ... This guy became US citizen around 1973, he went to college in US, have been living here for 40+ years ... His spoken English seemed completely fine, and his vocabulary broad and sophisticated

I am pretty sure that he pretended not to know English well. Of course, it does not mean that he is Satoshi. He may simply think that journalists would leave him alone faster that way Wink
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March 08, 2014, 11:37:14 PM
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Andreas - I would suggest trying to get part of the funds already raised to him in the next 3 or 4 days, rather than wait to the end of March.

I'm sure he needs it now, not when the fuss has died down. Let's not collect all this cash and yet keep the guy waiting, so he has to sing for his sushi in the meantime  Undecided
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The 1 month period was chosen for a reason.  The Dorian story has played out with near scripted perfection, and I think bitcoin may have more up its sleeve with this chapter too. 

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March 09, 2014, 02:58:39 AM
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Nice work guys. That's a lot of free lunches.
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March 09, 2014, 06:49:25 AM
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Hadn't moved much since the last time I was here earlier today: $26,141.49.
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March 09, 2014, 06:51:29 AM
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?
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March 09, 2014, 07:46:20 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Hi everyone, Andreas M. Antonopoulos here.
I'm fundraising for Dorian Nakamoto, the person named in the newsweak article.
I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.
....

If Dorian is indeed Satoshi (which I believe), the funds (now collecting) could still make much of a difference. If Dorian worked for the government and created bitcoin for them (or he worked in a Government-group that created bitcoin), then the results from early mining would belong to the government (his employer) and he had never access to the resulting money of early mining...
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March 09, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
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looks like people have been also donating to address removed


where is the substantiation that this is a legit address for this cause?

There have been a few cases of people posting false addresses in this thread, which sucks, but that's people.



People looking to donate should probably stick with the reddit post/link in the first post of this thread and follow that back through the stuff Andreas himself posted to that reddit post and/or his twitter account https://twitter.com/aantonop to make sure they're not getting ripped off.




See this post from Andreas' twitter feed on Mar 7

"The fundraising address for Dorian, contains the word “Dorian" and is signed by my PGP key. NO OTHER ADDRESSES.
http://pastebin.com/4MHvpaeN
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March 09, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?

I've already suggested that.

Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help Smiley

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


It makes no sense to wait a month! If the guy is short of cash - and it's seems very likely if he had a stroke and is unable to work and looks after his mother - where would money come from?

I've also mentioned how not helping him straight away leaves him open to the mercy of journalists and news channels who will offer him big sums to grill him  Undecided

I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  Undecided

Come on - let get this "instant" payment concept working! He could be starving in his house as we speak - anyone with direct contact to Andreas please tell him to do something straight away with the funds collected so far.

It's embarrassing this transaction is going to take 3 weeks to go through! Six people confirm the sentiment of this message that it should go straight away and let's send the funds to Dorian now!

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March 09, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but I believe the perfect candidate to express to Darian what this cause is all about is that Asian AP reporter, probably a guy he may trust.

What do you think, Andreas?

I've already suggested that.

Gah, I'm not seeing any replies to my request/suggestion to get cash over to Dorian asap.

As I said this isn't Western Union - this is Bitcoin!

Cash out the BTC collected so far, someone write a cheque and deliver it to his house. Today.

Better yet, if anyone knows the journalist who bought him lunch, try to get in contact with him as a way form a line of trust direct to Dorian. Let him know the people from "bitcom" are mad about the way he has been abused by newsweek and want to help Smiley

There is already over $13k - cash out $10k now and get it to him.

It would be more than awesome for bitcoin to say we collect $10k in a few hours and a few hours later it was in his hands.

Isn't that part of the the whole concept of bitcoin?


It makes no sense to wait a month! If the guy is short of cash - and it's seems very likely if he had a stroke and is unable to work and looks after his mother - where would money come from?

I've also mentioned how not helping him straight away leaves him open to the mercy of journalists and news channels who will offer him big sums to grill him  Undecided

I just hope Andreas/people will consider getting the cash raised over to him quickly - not in 3 weeks time.

Otherwise, it leaves him open to being cornered by some crappy news channel who offer him $10k for his story and he has no choice but to accept  Undecided

Come on - let get this "instant" payment concept working! He could be starving in his house as we speak - anyone with direct contact to Andreas please tell him to do something straight away with the funds collected so far.

It's embarrassing this transaction is going to take 3 weeks to go through! Six people confirm the sentiment of this message that it should go straight away and let's send the funds to Dorian now!

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Somebody should bring this to Andrea's attention.
He can easily sent around $10K now and the rest later. But Dorian needs help now.
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March 09, 2014, 12:20:33 PM
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A bit slower than 10 minutes  Wink but:

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5 more and the blockchain has spoken!

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March 09, 2014, 12:23:25 PM
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I am amazed by the generosity in the bitcoin community,
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March 09, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
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I am amazed by the generosity in the bitcoin community,
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March 09, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
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What is with the uh uh? However, Dorian has a bit too many coincidences with the creator of Bitcoin(namely working for a cryptographic department in his old job).

This is a bit like selection bias, taken to the extreme.

If you take a bunch of facts and search for anyone who matches exactly those facts, that's perfectly valid. The problem comes when you THEN assert that "well, it must be true because all those facts match and the odds of that are astronomical".

Well, "duh", you just searched for people who matched those facts.

It's like if you want to find a guy with a birthday on April 1 and red hair. Grabbing from your huge database-of-all-people, you find one and state that this must be the guy, 'cause what are the odds that it isn't considering his birthday matches (1/365th of a chance, roughly), his sex matches (50% chance, roughly), AND he even has red hair (0.5% (USA), according to google). Well, golly, that must mean the odds of it not being him are something like 7 in 1 million!

You are, of course, not doing the actual math, but the arguments supporting the claim are the same.
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March 09, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
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This is a bit like selection bias, taken to the extreme.

If you take a bunch of facts and search for anyone who matches exactly those facts, that's perfectly valid. The problem comes when you THEN assert that "well, it must be true because all those facts match and the odds of that are astronomical".

Well, "duh", you just searched for people who matched those facts.

Exactly this.
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March 09, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
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His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.

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March 09, 2014, 06:18:22 PM
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His brother posted in the bitcoin subreddit.  He'd probably be a good contact person for getting the funds to Dorian.


His brother who called him an asshole in the media? maybe not...

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