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October 23, 2018, 08:59:16 PM
Merited by dbshck (3), Jet Cash (2), The Pharmacist (1), Piggy (1)
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Some threads have titles that don't say anything about their content so users have to go inside these threads to understand what they're all about.
It's decrease effectiveness in generally and the topics with such names have a negative influence on the forum in my opinion.

I suppose it would be useful to add a new paragraph to the forum rules. Something like that:

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It is forbidden to create new topics with titles that do not reflect the essence of the problem or question.

Examples of threads with meaningless titles:
What is going on?
What the hell is this?
Seniors and Experts - Help
I help share it
Lol
PLEASE HELP ME
please help
Need Your Help
I NEED HELP, PLEASE
I need your help
it is not really hard to get...
What if..
PLEASE HELP!
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HELP
[img]http:// / [img]https://
Just an idea
Don't tread on me
This is bad
How to prevent things like this?
A Good Thing Or Not?
Is it worth it for now?
Hi
What this mean ?
Have You Ever Noticed?...
I Need Help
What if...
What do I do about this
Its just a Question sir!
wtf !!!!
I guess that's it
Ask
Help me!
BEWARE!!!
Need Help1111
Help
What if that happens?
Dear developers
Has anyone noticed this??
Support help me
Do you see the irony?
Just My Curiousity.
A LITTLE TRUTH...
What are they for?
The thin red line
Let's Check It Out.
Some attention to this...
urgent ,please help me
It's Not Secure
Feeling sad
How do I see it?
Is It Allowed?
Forum
Are They Still Here?
Newbie ask
Hello
please tell me
A newbie's question!
Silly question
Meta
Please need HELP!
plz help me
Error
Please need HELP ! Cry
question.
Just a simple tip
Its Harder now
What should I do with this?
what i have to do


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October 23, 2018, 09:11:56 PM
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As the old saying goes:Do not judge a book by its cover,your suggestion I'm afraid is not(never)gonna be implemented
Topics of threads do not determine the quality/usefulness of a thread..

A thread can have a terrible topic but entail a worthwhile content
While some could have an attractive topic(that entices one to open them), but with terrible content

And it only takes about a second to open a thread,and another to close the thread if you find it unhelpful
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October 23, 2018, 09:18:36 PM
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A thread can have a terrible topic but entail a worthwhile content
While some could have an attractive topic(that entices one to open them), but with terrible content
True, but a thread's title should give some indication as to whether you'd want to click on it or not.  I fully agree that thread-starters ought to be required to change thread titles if they're extremely vague.  I also find it annoying when a thread's title is something like "Hi" or "Bitcoin" (and I've seen threads with both titles recently).  It's basic forum etiquette that not everyone seems to grasp, and I would support having some sort of rule.

However, given all the other problems this forum is facing and the lack of action on a lot of them, this is probably not something that's going to get Theymos's attention.  

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Did you really have to quote the entire OP just to write your reply?  That's another breach of etiquette a lot of members seem to perpetrate.

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October 23, 2018, 09:21:55 PM
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Some threads have titles that don't say anything about their content so users have to go inside these threads to understand what they're all about.
It's decrease effectiveness in generally and the topics with such names have a negative influence on the forum in my opinion.

I suppose it would be useful to add a new paragraph to the forum rules. Something like that:

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It is forbidden to create new topics with titles that do not reflect the essence of the problem or question.

Examples of threads with meaningless titles:
What is going on?
What the hell is this?
Seniors and Experts - Help
I help share it
Lol
PLEASE HELP ME
please help
Need Your Help
I NEED HELP, PLEASE
I need your help
it is not really hard to get...
What if..
PLEASE HELP!
board
HELP
[img]http:// / [img]https://
Just an idea
Don't tread on me
This is bad
How to prevent things like this?
A Good Thing Or Not?
Is it worth it for now?
Hi
What this mean ?
Have You Ever Noticed?...
I Need Help
What if...
What do I do about this
Its just a Question sir!
wtf !!!!
I guess that's it
Ask
Help me!
BEWARE!!!
Need Help1111
Help
What if that happens?
Dear developers
Has anyone noticed this??
Support help me
Do you see the irony?
Just My Curiousity.
A LITTLE TRUTH...
What are they for?
The thin red line
Let's Check It Out.
Some attention to this...
urgent ,please help me
It's Not Secure
Feeling sad
How do I see it?
Is It Allowed?
Forum
Are They Still Here?
Newbie ask
Hello
please tell me
A newbie's question!
Silly question
Meta
Please need HELP!
plz help me
Error
Please need HELP ! Cry
question.
Just a simple tip
Its Harder now
What should I do with this?
what i have to do


As an additional suggestion to admins.
Add a [spoiler] button so users can hide long texts areas with it, as like on this forum: https://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?23873-Click-to-show-spoiler-HOW-!

A title can tell to some extent how the post would turn out you can't make a quality post and put up a wrong title. Shit post starts even from the title.

In as much as every one is free to give their post what ever title they deem fit having a the good of the forum at heart would tell you that poor title corrupts the landscape of what ever section it's on.  
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October 23, 2018, 09:26:28 PM
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Really? Someone actually gave 'hi' as title of a thread?  Huh It doesn't take much to think of a good solid title!
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October 23, 2018, 09:26:48 PM
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However, given all the other problems this forum is facing and the lack of action on a lot of them, this is probably not something that's going to get Theymos's attention. 

Technically it's up to mprep probably.

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October 23, 2018, 09:34:46 PM
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Why do I feel like the users who are active in meta, or people who have been here for a while, start nitpicking on literally everything that newbies do? Like initially when newbs said the word "sir" out of respect , people used to get only more offended and behaved like total pricks to newbies. And as things have gone sailed past, more nitpicking has only followed. And I myself have also been an asshole, have no shame whatsoever in admitting it, but sometimes feel bad for the less-aware-people, because a lot of cultures are based like that.

Let the titles be as is. We need rules for much important things and that is long overdue, so let's just point at the right direction.

tl;dr: We don't need any rule for titles.

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October 23, 2018, 09:40:56 PM
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I like the idea but, they will never read the rules and in this way, we will have even more threads complaining about "Why my thread is deleted?".

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October 23, 2018, 09:45:59 PM
Last edit: October 24, 2018, 08:20:12 AM by S_Therapist
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Long ago theymos had shared kinda guidelines for creating titles of a thread and I think that one is enough. No need for further guidelines.
Here it is- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.0

The only problem is that no one/only a little applies those rules. I think we should promote some rules through factoid so that people know about those, at least for the people who are concerned about our forum.
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October 23, 2018, 09:47:50 PM
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How dare did you forget to list "Good Project Sir!"?   Undecided

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October 23, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
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Technically it's up to mprep probably.
Ah, thank you.

And I myself have also been an asshole, have no shame whatsoever in admitting it, but sometimes feel bad for the less-aware-people, because a lot of cultures are based like that.
This suggestion isn't punitive, nor is it directed toward newbies in particular--it's a valid suggestion IMO that everyone should follow.  If anything, it helps thread-starters by making them put some thought into their thread title and would help the community as a whole, since they wouldn't have to guess as to what a thread is about before opening it.

I know this is a very low-priority issue, but I see nothing but good coming from making some sort of rule or policy change.  I won't be heartbroken if mprep or Theymos do nothing, but I think they ought to at least consider it.

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October 24, 2018, 01:43:08 AM
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Title of the topic should be an overview to the content of the thread. It is a good practice to think many times of the good title for a thread to be created. This will attract good people to join in the discussion and will result to an active discussions for cryptocurrency related topics.

However, it is almost impossible for one to add rulings on how to create a topic in the forum to start a thread. The topic to be created will depend on the user that will going to start the thread. Maybe, one could create a guide on how to create a good title for a topic. But, I suggest to not only depend on the guide instead one must get a good forum for it to learn not only to construct good title for topics but to all related learning about English language.

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October 24, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
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Really? Someone actually gave 'hi' as title of a thread?  Huh It doesn't take much to think of a good solid title!

What about Lol as a stupid thread tittle. I thought that one would be more inappropriate;D.

I like vague thread titles, it means people have to go to the effort of reading the op and don’t just post random shit underneath that they think relates to it.

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October 24, 2018, 05:20:03 AM
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Maybe, one could create a guide on how to create a good title for a topic.
Title play a good role because if someone use a good title, we don't need to read the OP, also not the discussion. We can create comment without having eyes on the content as like as you did with your comment.
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October 24, 2018, 05:27:46 AM
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Yeah, it's annoying and essentially forum-clickbait, but what can we do about it exactly? Ban users who do this? Or staff edit the title to something more accurate? It's just one more headache for staff and another thing pilled on top of the shitheap that we have to do. Maybe users should be encouraged in the thread to edit it to something more appropriate, but you're never going to be able to stamp out this because people are idiots and also lazy.

A thread can have a terrible topic but entail a worthwhile content
While some could have an attractive topic(that entices one to open them), but with terrible content
True, but a thread's title should give some indication as to whether you'd want to click on it or not.  I fully agree that thread-starters ought to be required to change thread titles if they're extremely vague.  I also find it annoying when a thread's title is something like "Hi" or "Bitcoin" (and I've seen threads with both titles recently).  It's basic forum etiquette that not everyone seems to grasp, and I would support having some sort of rule.

Exactly. If there's not enough info in the thread title it wastes everybodies time as we have to read it to see if it's something we can even help with. If it's something to do with a banned account then I might be able to help, but if he wants to know something about technical or about theoretical physics then I probably can't help them and that's why as much info as possible should be put in the title. It's beneficial to everyone, especially if someone with the knowledge about the subject can chime in as opposed to them ignoring it just because it says "help" or whatever.

However, given all the other problems this forum is facing and the lack of action on a lot of them, this is probably not something that's going to get Theymos's attention.  

Yep. There's far more pressing issues right now and pretty much most of them are just being ignored or put on the back burner so can't see this going anywhere.

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October 24, 2018, 05:41:02 AM
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Did you really have to quote the entire OP just to write your reply?  That's another breach of etiquette a lot of members seem to perpetrate.

I put him on ignore for doing that - so no merits from me  ever. Smiley

I don't bother to open those threads with stupid titles anymore, and I suspect many other members pass them over. So there is no point posting in them, unless you want to be though of as a bounty spammer.

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October 24, 2018, 05:51:07 AM
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However, given all the other problems this forum is facing and the lack of action on a lot of them, this is probably not something that's going to get Theymos's attention.  
Yep. There's far more pressing issues right now and pretty much most of them are just being ignored or put on the back burner so can't see this going anywhere.

Is there a "To-do list" on the forum - to monitor what issues are of interest to the Bitcointalk administration in the first place?
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October 24, 2018, 06:27:13 AM
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However, given all the other problems this forum is facing and the lack of action on a lot of them, this is probably not something that's going to get Theymos's attention.  
Yep. There's far more pressing issues right now and pretty much most of them are just being ignored or put on the back burner so can't see this going anywhere.

Is there a "To-do list" on the forum - to monitor what issues are of interest to the Bitcointalk administration in the first place?

Not really. There's a list of things in development for the new forum software here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523070.0

There's a list of community generated suggestions for improvements that anyone can participate in and I proposed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.msg44062249#msg44062249

So far the merit requirement for Juniors has been the only one implemented, but theymos did comment on which ones he might consider here and put them into three different categories (OK/maybe/no): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.msg44432901#msg44432901

I think cracking down on badly run ICO sig campaigns would be the most beneficial right now, along with more staff and admins being added to cope with demand and workload. Somethings like account recoveries just aren't happening at all and theymos even mentioned he'd thought about stopping the ad slot auctions because he doesn't have time for them (some other staff member could run them and I certainly don't think we should cut off pretty much the only source of forum income just because of that).

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October 24, 2018, 07:11:08 AM
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I suppose it would be useful to add a new paragraph to the forum rules. Something like that:

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It is forbidden to create new topics with titles that do not reflect the essence of the problem or question.

There is a guidelines as well mentioned by @S_Therapist. And I believe admin guidelines = rules almost. But problem is we are not following that. And that's the one reason people's are not getting right answers and most of reputed member's avoid this kind of post (imo).  A title should be summary of main post. But I am not sure if it's possible control by rules since we are not trying to improve ourselves.

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October 24, 2018, 07:43:40 AM
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How dare did you forget to list "Good Project Sir!"?   Undecided
How dare did you add a reply without reading the OP? It's all about title, not replies.

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