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December 25, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
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Quick check-in from a mining newbie.

From SD card flash to mining steadily took me about 25 minutes.

Running smoothly and averaging the expected 101 Mh/s for about 15 hours now on litecoinpool.

Lights flashing a nice Christmas-y red and green.

Set the fan to 15% which seems to cool it a lot better than the variable speed, and keeps it at a tolerable noise level for the den.

Only issue so far has been getting the HDMI cable to clip into the Apollo.


Happy to be a part of the home mining community!! Grin
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December 25, 2018, 06:37:49 PM
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Quick check-in from a mining newbie.

From SD card flash to mining steadily took me about 25 minutes.

Running smoothly and averaging the expected 101 Mh/s for about 15 hours now on litecoinpool.

Lights flashing a nice Christmas-y red and green.

Set the fan to 15% which seems to cool it a lot better than the variable speed, and keeps it at a tolerable noise level for the den.

Only issue so far has been getting the HDMI cable to clip into the Apollo.


Happy to be a part of the home mining community!! Grin

There is no hdmi port on the Apollo...

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December 25, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
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Okay

 Yeah cut and paste does not work a real P.I.T.A.




I did a youtube video shows 1 L3+ and 1 Apollo running nice and quiet hooked up to a high end cosair

loading really slow sorry for delay.
 

at: https://youtu.be/x6EjibK9Ot8

You have 10% HW errors there?  Shocked (I did not watch whole video, but seen it throughout the clip)



I clearly explained  why the hw was at 10% and that it drops over time.

But you did not bother to watch the video.

here it is right now  errors are down to 0.5%  from the initial 10%  which was said clearly in the video.
 that is after first 8 minutes when errors were about 10% see video

at: https://youtu.be/x6EjibK9Ot8

After  14 hours time errors = 0.5% see screenshot photo taken right now

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December 25, 2018, 06:59:17 PM
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Quick check-in from a mining newbie.

From SD card flash to mining steadily took me about 25 minutes.

Running smoothly and averaging the expected 101 Mh/s for about 15 hours now on litecoinpool.

Lights flashing a nice Christmas-y red and green.

Set the fan to 15% which seems to cool it a lot better than the variable speed, and keeps it at a tolerable noise level for the den.

Only issue so far has been getting the HDMI cable to clip into the Apollo.


Happy to be a part of the home mining community!! Grin

There is no hdmi port on the Apollo...

derp; ethernet  Tongue
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December 25, 2018, 07:18:43 PM
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Tried a be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600W PSU but so far no luck getting the Apollo going.
Connected pins so it can start and PSU fan starts spinning. LAN-port leds turn on (orange, green) and the Apollo fan starts with a few spins but stops immediately, no front led light.
It will do this every time when PSU turns on so seems like some kind of protection from the PSU that shut its off. Maybe somebody has a better idea or experience?
With the Apollo attached and pins connected should normally be enough?
If nothing works I might just get one of the PSUs that seemed to work for others.

Do the LAN port LEDs flash a few times? If they come on and stay on that means its not booting from SD card (when it boots properly the LAN LEDs will flash a few times).

If they don't flash that means either your using an incompatible SD card, or something went wrong with your SD card image download/flash.

Ok, leds do stay on but don't blink. I'll try writing sd cards again without using dd. Tried both a 32 Gb and 64 Gb sandisk extreme plus, but both created in the same way with dd so makes sense to try different way or even using cheaper different card. Thanks, I'll report back.

Yea just use etcher it’s easy and gets the job done. You might be writing to a partition with dd and not the whole disk.

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December 25, 2018, 08:23:51 PM
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Thanks all for the help, here's an update....

After hours of trying and failing I gave up. Miners sat turned off for over 48 hours as I was out of town. Came home and powered one up and it worked. No idea why. Got the second one working too. I did nothing different. I'm stumped but happy they are working. At the moment I can only get one to run at a time as they're interfering with each other on the network. I'll work on that next.
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December 26, 2018, 12:11:27 AM
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Thanks all for the help, here's an update....

After hours of trying and failing I gave up. Miners sat turned off for over 48 hours as I was out of town. Came home and powered one up and it worked. No idea why. Got the second one working too. I did nothing different. I'm stumped but happy they are working. At the moment I can only get one to run at a time as they're interfering with each other on the network. I'll work on that next.

As was mentioned a few times the wireless is still buggy from the driver if you are using wireless. I had one wired and one wireless but they were still stepping on each other. Now I have them both hard wired to ethernet and so far working great.

Is there any way to disable the wireless all together? It appears to me part of the issue with wireless is it has the same MAC address as the hard wired. I'm not positive but I thought these considered different as far as MAC addressees go?
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December 26, 2018, 03:01:34 AM
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Thanks all for the help, here's an update....

After hours of trying and failing I gave up. Miners sat turned off for over 48 hours as I was out of town. Came home and powered one up and it worked. No idea why. Got the second one working too. I did nothing different. I'm stumped but happy they are working. At the moment I can only get one to run at a time as they're interfering with each other on the network. I'll work on that next.

As was mentioned a few times the wireless is still buggy from the driver if you are using wireless. I had one wired and one wireless but they were still stepping on each other. Now I have them both hard wired to ethernet and so far working great.

Is there any way to disable the wireless all together? It appears to me part of the issue with wireless is it has the same MAC address as the hard wired. I'm not positive but I thought these considered different as far as MAC addressees go?

I'm using a wired connection only. I haven't tried wireless yet. I haven't been able to get both working at the same time though.
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December 26, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
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your router should be able to assign different ip for both, check it is in dhcp mode
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December 26, 2018, 07:32:18 AM
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Wired/Wireless have different MACs, they currently wont both work together though...if you have ethernet plugged in wireless wont work(so after wireless setup you should reboot then remove ethernet).

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December 26, 2018, 01:03:32 PM
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Hiya,

mine arrived this morning (France). 85$ for FedEx Express!  Huh
By the way, SD card (SanDisk Extreme 64 Gb) inserted:

https://i.imgur.com/QqQMIiN.jpg

Short for the ATX PSU:

https://i.imgur.com/w5YR0zJ.jpg

Quickly booted:

https://i.imgur.com/DNLZXrQ.jpg

131W at the wall:

https://i.imgur.com/8Youwcs.jpg

Nice work @jstefanop!
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December 26, 2018, 02:50:37 PM
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Hello jstefanop, quick question:

I just had situation with one pool, where I was temp-banned because I generated lots of rejected shares (it was MiningRentals, rental order gave me wrong settings). My Apollo was disconnected, and it started mining on backup pool. But after some time, it did not returned to main pool, despite temp-ban being lifted and I could just mine there easily.

So, question is, At default settings, will bfgminer continuously try to reconnect to main pool? If not, how I can change that in bfgminer.conf?
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December 26, 2018, 03:44:44 PM
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your router should be able to assign different ip for both, check it is in dhcp mode

Thanks, it's in dhcp mode. I did get it to work after multiple reboots of all hardware involved but oddly my network map is only showing one. I can see they are both online and working at the moment I'll continue to monitor.
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December 26, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
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When will we have a new bêta release ?

Please fix the wifi first !! ^^

Thanks for all jfstefanop Wink
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December 26, 2018, 10:22:13 PM
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Hello jstefanop, quick question:

I just had situation with one pool, where I was temp-banned because I generated lots of rejected shares (it was MiningRentals, rental order gave me wrong settings). My Apollo was disconnected, and it started mining on backup pool. But after some time, it did not returned to main pool, despite temp-ban being lifted and I could just mine there easily.

So, question is, At default settings, will bfgminer continuously try to reconnect to main pool? If not, how I can change that in bfgminer.conf?

That should be the default behavior. Could be something with the ban, since a new authorization would require a bfgminer restart.

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December 27, 2018, 10:17:25 AM
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One of my units experienced temperature cut-out I think.
It was hot to touch and not mining, miner offline and fan not spinning. This is a second time this happened. I power it off, after few minutes plugged back in, it started mining just fine. I am running Eco mode with Auto fan.

I really think we need to get Minimum fan speed option on Auto mode, so temperature is controlled in more stable way.

For now, I changed fans in both units to manual mode at 15%. It's still quiet and stable. Temperatures are 52-53 C instead of 70 C in Auto mode.
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December 27, 2018, 11:22:30 AM
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One of my units experienced temperature cut-out I think.
It was hot to touch and not mining, miner offline and fan not spinning. This is a second time this happened. I power it off, after few minutes plugged back in, it started mining just fine. I am running Eco mode with Auto fan.

I really think we need to get Minimum fan speed option on Auto mode, so temperature is controlled in more stable way.

For now, I changed fans in both units to manual mode at 15%. It's still quiet and stable. Temperatures are 52-52 C instead of 70 C in Auto mode.

Definitely agree with that. And for some reason it is better in Wattage, I don't have below 130W when Fan auto displaying 630 RPM:
- Fan auto ≈ 630-2040 RPM -> 130-133W ≈ 66°
- Fan 10% ≈ 1425 RPM -> 129W ≈ 56°

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December 27, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
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One of my units experienced temperature cut-out I think.
It was hot to touch and not mining, miner offline and fan not spinning. This is a second time this happened. I power it off, after few minutes plugged back in, it started mining just fine. I am running Eco mode with Auto fan.

I really think we need to get Minimum fan speed option on Auto mode, so temperature is controlled in more stable way.

For now, I changed fans in both units to manual mode at 15%. It's still quiet and stable. Temperatures are 52-52 C instead of 70 C in Auto mode.

Definitely agree with that. And for some reason it is better in Wattage, I don't have below 130W when Fan auto displaying 630 RPM:
- Fan auto ≈ 630-2040 RPM -> 130-133W ≈ 66°
- Fan 10% ≈ 1425 RPM -> 129W ≈ 56°



It could be silicon chip heat runway. Something observed with GekkoScience NewPac stick miners. More heat -> more current, because in hotter temperature chip uses more power to do same thing. More current = more heat and so on, if you don't apply more fan speed to blow it off at some point, you end up actually use more power to do same thing.
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December 27, 2018, 03:39:08 PM
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Yea thats the same type of SDXC UHS card as the 64 I tested, so I guess anything past 64 wont work. If anyone else has other 128GB or larger cards they can test let me know.

Either way 64 is more than enough when we release the full node/lightning update.

Hiya,

burnt a 64Gb SanDisk Extreme SD card with Apollo image.
Saw this information:
https://i.imgur.com/yTFxMeO.png

but doing a df gives:
https://i.imgur.com/d15PTjP.png

Any way file system runs out of space one day?
Will you extend it in future release, as mentioned above to run a full node?
Updates will need to burn another image on SD card?
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December 27, 2018, 03:57:31 PM
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You can extend it yourself, there is a script for it in /usr/lib/armbian/ directory.

run as root:
Code:
chmod +x armbian-resize-filesystem
./armbian-resize-filesystem start

Bear in mind that jstefanop will release it in "official" way soon, with one of the future updates. So if you don't want to risk anything, you can wait.
Anyway, I did it to mine two units and now I have all space allocated, works perfect.
Code:
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mmcblk0p1   15G  1.9G   13G  13% /
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