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and I do respect DEV, after all they are the owner of this coin, they have the right to made plan and choose the way to success.
Oh really so the Dev (AP), an anonymous, non Native American, owns a coin, which a sovereign nation is expected to adopt as their official currency? So he can sell the code to Facebook? Hand over control to the US Treasury/IRS/FBI. The dev has a flawed understanding of a decentralized currency. This is the heart of the problem. Why doesn't he just try to sell them some magic beans?
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April 15, 2014, 01:36:47 PM |
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and I do respect DEV, after all they are the owner of this coin, they have the right to made plan and choose the way to success.
Oh really so the Dev (AP), an anonymous, non Native American, owns a coin, which a sovereign nation is expected to adopt as their official currency? So he can sell the code to Facebook? Hand over control to the US Treasury/IRS/FBI. The dev has a flawed understanding of a decentralized currency. This is the heart of the problem. Why doesn't he just try to sell them some magic beans? AP and Payu are friends they know each other .... so forget your non-senses
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danonthehill
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April 15, 2014, 02:31:47 PM |
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and I do respect DEV, after all they are the owner of this coin, they have the right to made plan and choose the way to success.
Oh really so the Dev (AP), an anonymous, non Native American, owns a coin, which a sovereign nation is expected to adopt as their official currency? So he can sell the code to Facebook? Hand over control to the US Treasury/IRS/FBI. The dev has a flawed understanding of a decentralized currency. This is the heart of the problem. Why doesn't he just try to sell them some magic beans? AP and Payu are friends they know each other .... so forget your non-senses Oh that's OK then AP is an anonymous friend of a (Cambodian born, that's right, I know more than you do) Native American, who he has downgraded from founder of the coin to tribal liaison, and refers to himself as Master Coin Maker even though he just forked it from Zeta. We are talking about an official currency here, a move that will have significant financial and political consequences for the Reservation. Do you think we need to be more forthcoming and clarify the glaring issues? Do you think we ought to get the lawyers involved when drafting an agreement? Do you think we need to present ourselves as a legitimate organization? Do you think we need to be professional in our public communications? Doesn't any politician have an obligation when signing such an agreement to do due diligence i.e. is that Mr or Mrs Anonymous Pirate, I can't read the signature and what number anonymous street does he live? AP is not open to dialogue with the Tribe, he believes, unequivocally that he is right about the technical and economic aspects of the coin, even though he cut and pasted the same blurb for Maplecoin, a coin which had completely different variables. I have been with this coin since the beginning, supported it, openly defended it and have chatted with Payu several times on IRC. I have always believed it is legitimate, but the unnecessary FUD could have been prevented simply by answering a few obvious questions and clarifying a few points. Payu repeatedly failed to do this, and instead, rather than trying to educate to promote BTC adoption, which in turn would lead to MZC adoption, used PR to express his own political alienation. And AP turned belligerence into an art-form and pursued tacky side projects, and through pure laziness (or absence of coding skills) has alienated the whole online community. I am a defender of this coin, because I believe in its cause and it's heartbreaking to see some prick who has nothing to do with the tribe (AP) make claims to ownership, reject the expertise of others and further impoverish the Tribe. Address my broader point about the third party centralized administration of a sovereign coin. How does that provide greater autonomy or security to the Lakota? How is this different than the dollar? Are there no devs on the Reservation? The current devs anonymity is a barrier to the success of this coin, and AP needs to be ousted. See the bigger picture buddy. And don't get me started on that website. It is an abomination, unworthy of the Lakota and just encourages the idea that this is a scam, when in reality it is just run by clowns.
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April 15, 2014, 03:55:38 PM |
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Mazacoin has been added to MiningPool Co. https://www.miningpool.co1% Fee Vardiff Stratum 5 Minute Payouts For those of you that have already used the pool you can add Mazacoin to your dashboard from the settings page. Happy Mining!
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April 15, 2014, 03:57:27 PM |
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I am a sincere supporter but I have mixed feelings about a moderated thread, the FUD will die down in time, people should be able to hear both sides. It's quite bold to assume you'll be able to discern between a shill/troll and someone with passionate concerns.
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April 15, 2014, 05:52:35 PM |
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Poppy was ofcourse upset how the value has dropped, but p harris has not sold the premine. Something really strange happened on the bear phase. Was it cryptorush or who sold the coins when we had small recovery?
Anyways now we are over that and can begin a new foundation. Boxxa, Pirate, p harris or dataman should come here to the forum once in a while to prevent the useless fud. Devs, could u do that?
Ladies and gentlemen we are in a deep, deep dive. Very deep at the ocean of planet crypto. This dive will also be long. Let us stay here in the shades for a while.
Maza gu brath
- Tomi
Ps. I really like reading the comments here. And true, p harris should rethink the maza coin plan. The Lakotas should have more say on their own currency
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perezoso
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April 16, 2014, 04:28:42 AM |
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Had to put Poppys on ignore. Hate doing that, but...
Calm, cool, and collected slow coin accumulation here.
The "management" does need to sort some stuff out, but be patient, there's a good chance they gradually will.
Maybe I need to put a few things on the Mazacoin market again.
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battbot
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April 16, 2014, 04:43:16 AM |
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Can someone please provide AP's home address? Would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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poppys
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April 16, 2014, 05:48:13 AM |
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Had to put Poppys on ignore. Hate doing that, but...
Calm, cool, and collected slow coin accumulation here.
The "management" does need to sort some stuff out, but be patient, there's a good chance they gradually will.
Maybe I need to put a few things on the Mazacoin market again.
Ya bro, just keep them people buying until the coin is worth nothing. That way they squeeze every dime out of the people buy and selling this coin based on lies.
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April 16, 2014, 07:17:05 AM |
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Maybe it's the lunar eclipse, but I just bought more Mazacoins! Of course the falling price is a worry, but I thought I'd share my trading history here, it's all recorded on Cryptsy! Here we are... MZC @ .00003006 - buy.. MZC @ .00003040 - buy.. MZC @ .00003087 - buy.. MZC @ .00000519 - buy.. MZC @ .00000526 - buy.. MZC @ .00000450 - buy.. MZC @ .00000296 - buy.. MZC @ .00000298 - buy.. And today, MZC @ .00000127 - buy.
This might seem funny to some, but guess what I haven't done?? I HAVEN'T SOLD ANY YOU ASSHOLES
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empowering
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April 16, 2014, 10:07:06 AM |
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+1
As stated I have bought mainly from 500 down... and I only sold a very few to cover my initial buy in... and I have averaged down more and more... and have a fair amount of coin now... and if the price just drops a little more I am happy to accumulate a billion or so...
and guess what....
I am not selling either.
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
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empowering
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April 16, 2014, 10:07:44 AM |
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Can someone please provide AP's home address? Would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Sure I can send it to you in the post.... what is your address?
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
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April 16, 2014, 12:20:43 PM |
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Loving the quick updates on twitter. Shows desperation. This coin won't rise again without some solid ground work. And because of so many misdirections that's going to take a very long time. I think MZC team missed a great opportunity for themselves and their community.
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niothor
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April 16, 2014, 12:23:59 PM |
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+1
As stated I have bought mainly from 500 down... and I only sold a very few to cover my initial buy in... and I have averaged down more and more... and have a fair amount of coin now... and if the price just drops a little more I am happy to accumulate a billion or so...
and guess what....
I am not selling either.
You want that bad to become some sioux chief?
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empowering
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April 16, 2014, 12:44:23 PM |
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+1
As stated I have bought mainly from 500 down... and I only sold a very few to cover my initial buy in... and I have averaged down more and more... and have a fair amount of coin now... and if the price just drops a little more I am happy to accumulate a billion or so...
and guess what....
I am not selling either.
You want that bad to become some sioux chief? No not at all.... I am just expressing that I am willing to give the coins some time... I already have a nice amount of coins- I am not bothered if I buy more or not, and I am not really bothered what happens from my investment point of view... I am happy to let the coins ride... and I am hoping that this coins does fill its potential... if/when this coin goes somewhere... then it will be amazing for the tribe... and yeah I will be a happy bunny... but i will also be a happy donating bunny that is more than happy to set some projects in motion and heck make a trip to the reservation myself... for more reasons than one that appeals to me. Actually I hope the coin finds its floor soon... but like I said a week ago or so... if 150 falls, there would not be much support to 100 - and there has not been... and if 100 gets broken then I can see sub 50 satoshi.. However actually I hope the floor is before then... but I am not holding my breath.. but what I can say , is at those levels I will go in hard and buy by the million what is available- because I still belive in the project, and I really hope it works out and I am happy to put my BTC where my mouth is... and also happy to buy up coin supply... The coins is still so young, and the community at least the community on here is very fragmented... lots of potential still though, and it is early days- high risk high reward though... but the killer with this coins is the rewards have more importance than if or not I earn a few extra BTC. For now it remains in a list of alts, all of which, without exception have had major rollercoaster rides, huge capitulaiton and recovery... (well most) and none of which have had a 1% of the media attention and public face as Maza, and barring one or two most have no real world potential benefits for anyone other than traders there are a few though, and most of which still have limited use amongst merchants.. MZC has huge potential... so I guess I am just happy to back that potential... of all of the alts I have owned and traded... and there are a fair few... MZC is in the top 5 of the most interesting coins for me. The next few months in crypto world are going to be interesting... eyes on BTC atm
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
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April 16, 2014, 01:22:10 PM |
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-What is Mazacoin grandpa?-Well, Mazacoin is great but always-bottom-coin. That's what this coin really is. - So, should I buy Mazacoin grandpa?-Well, I have no fucking idea my dear... Ask grannie... But wait! Grannie is fucking dead. Won't tell you. -Ok grandpa, now I see that Mazacoin is fucking weird coin to buy!
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empowering
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April 16, 2014, 01:41:29 PM |
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ha ha wtf? have you been on the peyote? as in alll of it?
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
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SkyValeey
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April 16, 2014, 01:52:00 PM |
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On peyote once, I prefer acid than peyote and shrooms I love acid.
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April 16, 2014, 04:04:38 PM |
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Methinks that there is a possible retest of $340 coming in BTC - unless we just witnessed a double bottom- and if so we may get a little lift in BTC here, but still nothing major I suspect for a while.. in fact chances are we will see a triple bottom (or worse) with all the China noise, this week - now to the 18th/20th could be a bumpy ride... we may see another sell off mid week...wed thurs, and if so and $340 holds with good support then we may get a nice bump in btc, nothing major but enough for now to take the market out of the doldrums, whilst the fincen/regulators become more clear in the states... all this is to say , as said before if there is more even temporary bloodletting from the crypto market, and without any more news from the tribe on if they are going to rise to the challenge and take advantage of their unique legal position within the states to incorporate crypto (as they have done and I think will continue to do with various other enterprises , which I tend to think that once they cover their bases they may well do, but until then ... in the current climate with BTC , until there is a bounce and fresh or returning funds return to the crypto market, then MZC is going to continue to bleed... and I dare say with the rate of newly minted coins... until either the tribe speaks up, and or BTC makes its next wave up... then we are looking at further downward movement (barring any one deciding to make a large move into MZC on some sort of inside knowledge of its official adoption) How far down ? hard to say ... but as I said a week ago or so... interesting times in crypto land all around for many many reasons... there is much newses , rises and falls and failures to come in the next 3-4-6 months. I continue to support and will continue to buy, it is early days still, and it is turbulent times in crypto, huge amounts of potential risk and also reward. In terms of Mazacoin - I hope for the tribe’s sake, that this does play out well, conceptually it is a great coin/idea/cause/project- lets hope the market agrees in the longterm.
edit if 0.00000150 gets broken which I think it might, then maybe there will not be so much support down to 100- and ditto if 100 is broken then see you sub 50
hodl on to your hats
Thursday is almost here.... I wonder how the sea of green will fare... especially BTC.. may be a fairly important week.
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April 16, 2014, 04:06:02 PM |
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Methinks that there is a possible retest of $340 coming in BTC - unless we just witnessed a double bottom- and if so we may get a little lift in BTC here, but still nothing major I suspect for a while.. in fact chances are we will see a triple bottom (or worse) with all the China noise, this week - now to the 18th/20th could be a bumpy ride... we may see another sell off mid week...wed thurs, and if so and $340 holds with good support then we may get a nice bump in btc, nothing major but enough for now to take the market out of the doldrums, whilst the fincen/regulators become more clear in the states... all this is to say , as said before if there is more even temporary bloodletting from the crypto market, and without any more news from the tribe on if they are going to rise to the challenge and take advantage of their unique legal position within the states to incorporate crypto (as they have done and I think will continue to do with various other enterprises , which I tend to think that once they cover their bases they may well do, but until then ... in the current climate with BTC , until there is a bounce and fresh or returning funds return to the crypto market, then MZC is going to continue to bleed... and I dare say with the rate of newly minted coins... until either the tribe speaks up, and or BTC makes its next wave up... then we are looking at further downward movement (barring any one deciding to make a large move into MZC on some sort of inside knowledge of its official adoption) How far down ? hard to say ... but as I said a week ago or so... interesting times in crypto land all around for many many reasons... there is much newses , rises and falls and failures to come in the next 3-4-6 months. I continue to support and will continue to buy, it is early days still, and it is turbulent times in crypto, huge amounts of potential risk and also reward. In terms of Mazacoin - I hope for the tribe’s sake, that this does play out well, conceptually it is a great coin/idea/cause/project- lets hope the market agrees in the longterm.
edit if 0.00000150 gets broken which I think it might, then maybe there will not be so much support down to 100- and ditto if 100 is broken then see you sub 50
hodl on to your hats
Thursday is almost here.... I wonder how the sea of green will fare... especially BTC.. may be a fairly important week. I just hope it's the last time we see "china banning bitcoin" news. It's getting retarded.
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