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December 25, 2018, 01:49:17 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.


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So? Will you buy bitcoin atm? Just as like you said, bitcoin now dropped to $3880 or nearly 7% from yesterday

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December 25, 2018, 02:14:15 AM
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But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.
What did you read exactly? Any kind of trading activities could lose you money, not just shorting.

Yes, you can short Bitcoin. There are lots of exchange that allow you to short Bitcoin, some example: Bitmex, Bitfinex, OKEx.
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December 25, 2018, 03:07:02 AM
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So? Will you buy bitcoin atm? Just as like you said, bitcoin now dropped to $3880 or nearly 7% from yesterday
I believe this is normal in one day and you don't need to worry much about the current market because I believe prices will soon rise again best. I personally believe that the market will start a new uptrend and everything will become more stable in the future
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December 25, 2018, 03:20:15 AM
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I believe this is normal in one day and you don't need to worry much about the current market because I believe prices will soon rise again best. I personally believe that the market will start a new uptrend and everything will become more stable in the future

That's not the right mindset if you want to get as much money as possible. For professional traders bear or bull market is the place to make profits. However, margin trading (short/long) is very risky and prone to 'manipulation', especially when we have futures market that doesn't get backed by real Bitcoin. I'd not recommend any newbies or people who lack trading knowledge to do that. You can lose all of your money for a simple mistake.

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December 25, 2018, 04:46:06 AM
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when the bitcoin price falls then you should be able to buy as much bitcoin as you can no matter what day it is, trading in stocks may have a different strategy than cryptocurrency trading so you should be careful when you want to buy coins when prices fall like this. and the most important is not margin trading which has a short and long scheme.
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December 25, 2018, 04:48:36 AM
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So? Will you buy bitcoin atm? Just as like you said, bitcoin now dropped to $3880 or nearly 7% from yesterday
I believe this is normal in one day and you don't need to worry much about the current market because I believe prices will soon rise again best. I personally believe that the market will start a new uptrend and everything will become more stable in the future

Well believe and the reality can be different, maybe if you are a long term holders then you don't need to worry about this dropping, but if you are a day trader then it really affect your analysis, I think its too risky to do shorting in btc, the price is very unpredictable, you may think that maybe people will sell their coins for holiday but if one of big whales suddenly pump then you can predict the wrong outcome
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December 25, 2018, 04:59:49 AM
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Bitcoin prices have gone down now, indeed to buy bitcoin is now a good strategy to generate profits, but I think bitcoin has low fluctuations so it's a good altcoin for to buy, currently bitcoin is shorting and to make money you have to buy at a falling price and sell it only but you have to understand where the market will move.

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December 25, 2018, 06:26:17 AM
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Bitcoin prices have gone down now, indeed to buy bitcoin is now a good strategy to generate profits,
All the time, this method works all the time as when bitcoin falls, the next action would be up, it's just important to determine the right timing.
but I think bitcoin has low fluctuations so it's a good altcoin for to buy, currently bitcoin is shorting and to make money you have to buy at a falling price and sell it only but you have to understand where the market will move.
Bitcoin is not an altcoin, it's the king in the crypto and the most dominant, people are shorting then they make money but who really cares if you are here for long term. Price action does not matter anymore, what's vital is the development and I see a good progress in development.

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December 25, 2018, 08:08:07 AM
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Even though the price of bitcoin is still very low, I still work to earn money and not at a great price atleast you earn money. and it's nice to buy a bitcoin but not to sell but to hold first and accumulate a lot of bitcoins and good to generate profits so even if it drops bitcoin still needs to continue to make money, do not just lose hope because it's a bit the day the bitcoin price will come back so I will wait until the price increases.
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December 25, 2018, 11:47:15 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.

Actually you can short the market, that is what most of the institutions did with bitcoin a year ago when it touched $20,000, they shorted it, and they are now on huge gains.
But there is no sense to short now, you will lose money.
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Shorting is very practicable in cryptocurrency, and there are very educative contents on the internet which can help you get a grasp of it.

Shorting is a trade, which begins by selling. You sell at a higher price (if you expect the price to drop) and them buy back at a lower price.
In the end you could hold the same quantity of bitcoins but have profits. Or more amounts without putting in more capital.
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Im confused.  Shorting you say begins by selling.  You sell at higher price since you expect price to drop and then buy back at lower price.  Isn't this trading?


The thing that is confusing here is you say shorting begins by selling.  Well let say you have no btc or altcoins.  How do you short then?  Doesn't it first you require to buy first? 
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December 25, 2018, 09:03:44 PM
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So i figure around now, btc price would drop.

Yes, you are right. If you buy now then you will get profits when the price goes up again, and that can happen after new year celebration! But you don't have to go through stocks to short it.
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December 25, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
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So? Will you buy bitcoin atm? Just as like you said, bitcoin now dropped to $3880 or nearly 7% from yesterday
I believe this is normal in one day and you don't need to worry much about the current market because I believe prices will soon rise again best. I personally believe that the market will start a new uptrend and everything will become more stable in the future
The 7% price drop over the last 24 hours is normal when we look from the outside but there are those who earn 5% per annum which is equal to millions of dollars. Also if you try leverage trading, you understand that this is not a small number.
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December 25, 2018, 10:17:19 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



shorting is just a form of trading ,When you feel like the market is going to drop you sell your holdings and wait for a certain entry to buy back . that way if yhe market goes up again you will profit although the price could be the same as the one you sold at .
The opposite of this is going long ,When you buy and wait for the prices to go up. This is good when the momentum of the market is bullish and could make you way more money then shorting.
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December 25, 2018, 10:51:22 PM
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Im confused.  Shorting you say begins by selling.  You sell at higher price since you expect price to drop and then buy back at lower price.  Isn't this trading?
It can be seen as trading, yes.

The thing that is confusing here is you say shorting begins by selling.  Well let say you have no btc or altcoins.  How do you short then?  Doesn't it first you require to buy first? 
In that case you have to find cash settled platforms. The pros and more experienced investors have platforms such as CBOE and CME to work with, while the more average retailers use platforms as Robinhood and eToro. I'm sure there are a few more, but most of them are unregulated platforms you definitely don't want to deal with.

I like to work with Bitmex because it allows you to settle your contracts in BTC against the US dollar, and have your contracts pay out in BTC, regardless of what coin on their platform you long or short. The advantage of not dealing with fiat on Bitmex is that you aren't subject to ridiculous KYC/AML measures you otherwise would be.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Yes its possible with cryptocurrency but you must know how to execute this one because shorting is really risky and your profit is not guaranteed. Most of the traders now are doing this, but not all of them succeed on this one so better to study first before you so this strategy. If you can’t handle the stress of trading go for long term investing, as I can see you don’t have enough experience in trading.
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December 26, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
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Well how does one short anything if they don't have anything to begin with?  Example you have 10000 dollars.  You think btc will drop in price pretty soon.  So how could you short if you have btc on you at the moment?  Because wouldn't shorting require you to either have btc already?  Because say you think btc will drop soon.  Well you certainly arent going to buy any btc anytime soon right?  Because i thought shorting means you can bet on it dropping in price from now? 


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I also have used BitMex to short in the past, though they don't accept customers from the USA or Quebec anymore- sucks because I liked to short coins, and the other major platform I know of where you can use leverage (Bitfinex) requires you to go through pretty strenuous verification. Kraken also allows you to short, but I haven't used their platform before and I can't give you much feedback on that.
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I also have used BitMex to short in the past, though they don't accept customers from the USA or Quebec anymore- sucks because I liked to short coins, and the other major platform I know of where you can use leverage (Bitfinex) requires you to go through pretty strenuous verification. Kraken also allows you to short, but I haven't used their platform before and I can't give you much feedback on that.

I only use BitMex so far, and I think it's the best leverage website. I remember trying with OKCoin, but I don't if the site still online or not because after I knew BitMex, I don't use OKCoin again. In BitMex, you can take short or long whenever the price goes, but you need to have an analysis so you won't get much loss. It's not easy to do leverage trading, and my advice is you can use small money for the test, and after you are familiar with the trade, then it's up to you.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




We can make money in down trend but if you're scalper there's opportunity to get income using buy fast sell fast method. Most people will use down trend to buy coins for long term period, recovery asset or try another way using coins as basic payment ( courses, on line shop, etc ). I don't have any idea in down trend but I use my profit to built my skill in forex market. Wait can be boring so use what you have to make something worth.

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December 27, 2018, 06:12:56 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Some exchanges are providing the features of shorting. But, I believe anyone can go for make use of downfall market by trading with stable-coins. Yes, all you need to convert your bitcoin into a stable coin when you will be predicting market is going to fall down and when you predict market is going to stop its downfall or it is going to bounce back then that is the time for buying bitcoins back. As simple as any other trading.

But what I feel is, making money when prices are dropping is too difficult rather than make use of those falling down by entering for the purpose of holding for long a period. We must need to keep on buying on every dips so that we can make sure we will be having better average-buy prices.
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as far as I know, they only take advantage of the increase that occurred after the dump occurred. well, indeed it is a difficult and risky thing, but I also did it and made a profit at first, before getting a loss.

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December 27, 2018, 07:08:35 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Some exchanges are providing the features of shorting. But, I believe anyone can go for make use of downfall market by trading with stable-coins. Yes, all you need to convert your bitcoin into a stable coin when you will be predicting market is going to fall down and when you predict market is going to stop its downfall or it is going to bounce back then that is the time for buying bitcoins back. As simple as any other trading.

But what I feel is, making money when prices are dropping is too difficult rather than make use of those falling down by entering for the purpose of holding for long a period. We must need to keep on buying on every dips so that we can make sure we will be having better average-buy prices.
Some six months back I was deliberately looking for how to shorting  with cryptocurrencies. At the time no one was able to explain me your procedure of shorting with stable coin. This must be a working plan of making money with down fall market.

But I guess, regardless of market is rising or falling down, it is always difficult to predict its direction. The better way to make money with any cryptocurrency must be simply holding it given that it is highly famous one. Holding an unknown coin will not fetch any big profits even in long term. Bitcoin or ethereum are good ones for holding for years so that we can make the maximum profits compared to what we could make by trading in downfall market.

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as far as I know, they only take advantage of the increase that occurred after the dump occurred. well, indeed it is a difficult and risky thing, but I also did it and made a profit at first, before getting a loss.
You can do short sell in the bear market and buy back when the price drops even lower. This is coming with a large amount of risk as well so better be prepared for sudden bounce backs when you will in a bad position with nothing at hand to sell in order to cover your loss. Again the wiser thing to do in case you are in not in a hurry and have fresh cash at hand is to buy at the drop and then hold it for a better price to sell.

Not every dump is preceded by a pump. Thats the general notion but exceptions are there. Sudden dump without any pump will bounce back hard.

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I believe this is normal in one day and you don't need to worry much about the current market because I believe prices will soon rise again best. I personally believe that the market will start a new uptrend and everything will become more stable in the future

That's not the right mindset if you want to get as much money as possible. For professional traders bear or bull market is the place to make profits. However, margin trading (short/long) is very risky and prone to 'manipulation', especially when we have futures market that doesn't get backed by real Bitcoin. I'd not recommend any newbies or people who lack trading knowledge to do that. You can lose all of your money for a simple mistake.
Why it is not a right mindset ? Believing in to bitcoin and its future is not a right mindset even we are looking for making much money as possible ? Active trading is one kind where people are able to make money but believing in to the future's of bitcoin and simply holding is another way of trading still there will be no differences in their intentions. Both the people are looking to make as much money as they are able to.

I am also supporting to go for both way of trading, shorting and longing. But, I recommend only holding which is NOT possible with shorting. I believe holders will be making more money than active traders. If you want to make big returns for your efforts then you must look for holding option rather than going for active trading in the names of shorting o any other kind.
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Learn how to short, then you will not care anymore if it's BULL or BEAR. All you will care about is that it moves and moves fast, no matter UP or DOWN.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



my opinion is-those who bought bitcoins at a crazy price and could not sell on time it is only worth waiting because now there is no sense to sell. the price is very low for this. need patience and I think the price will go up

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as far as I know, they only take advantage of the increase that occurred after the dump occurred. well, indeed it is a difficult and risky thing, but I also did it and made a profit at first, before getting a loss.
You can do short sell in the bear market and buy back when the price drops even lower. This is coming with a large amount of risk as well so better be prepared for sudden bounce backs when you will in a bad position with nothing at hand to sell in order to cover your loss. Again the wiser thing to do in case you are in not in a hurry and have fresh cash at hand is to buy at the drop and then hold it for a better price to sell.

Not every dump is preceded by a pump. Thats the general notion but exceptions are there. Sudden dump without any pump will bounce back hard.


Whatever, you cannot predict the market condition in this situation. Then we need to keep remember that bitcoin is always volatile. I have seen the some of people sold bunch of bitcoins on christmas day.
In this time we are seeing the price fluctuations means what will be done after few weeks or something.

Hope all will be settled in few months that is what my expectations too.
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as far as I know, they only take advantage of the increase that occurred after the dump occurred. well, indeed it is a difficult and risky thing, but I also did it and made a profit at first, before getting a loss.
You can do short sell in the bear market and buy back when the price drops even lower. This is coming with a large amount of risk as well so better be prepared for sudden bounce backs when you will in a bad position with nothing at hand to sell in order to cover your loss. Again the wiser thing to do in case you are in not in a hurry and have fresh cash at hand is to buy at the drop and then hold it for a better price to sell.

Not every dump is preceded by a pump. Thats the general notion but exceptions are there. Sudden dump without any pump will bounce back hard.


Whatever, you cannot predict the market condition in this situation. Then we need to keep remember that bitcoin is always volatile. I have seen the some of people sold bunch of bitcoins on christmas day.
In this time we are seeing the price fluctuations means what will be done after few weeks or something.

Hope all will be settled in few months that is what my expectations too.


Trading is the only way to get equal profit while the price falling down because trading does not require value it needs only experience and talent if the price not as good as you will add experience in trading you can manage your profit by investing some more amount and get the same profit like before that's why trading is more powerful than other way of earning.

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December 27, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



my opinion is-those who bought bitcoins at a crazy price and could not sell on time it is only worth waiting because now there is no sense to sell. the price is very low for this. need patience and I think the price will go up

Yeah, people also thought it's not worth selling/too low when it dropped to 12k 10k 8k and 5k.
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Making an earning from bitcoin while the value of bitcoin decreases isn't possible with the users who doesn't have any prior experience in handling the price fluctuations of bitcoin as well other cryptocurrencies. Another thing users could consider this to be the time for investment and make the best earning out of it.

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December 27, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
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Hope my idea and strategy can help for you in the of bitcoin is in the dumped, learn how to trade buy and sell altcoin using bitcoin to increase you bitcoin amount while waiting for the bull run but be carefull day trade are have rish need to be foucus and knowledgeable before doing this strategy.

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December 27, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.
Bitcoin is dropping already, you should buy more now to hold in the future in you are not planning on trading it. Trading it at this moment may be hard since market is in bearish trends. It is not a good time to make a trade, i would rather choose to hold it for a long-term investment.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.
Bitcoin is dropping already, you should buy more now to hold in the future in you are not planning on trading it. Trading it at this moment may be hard since market is in bearish trends. It is not a good time to make a trade, i would rather choose to hold it for a long-term investment.
Same with me too.I prefer to still hold all my coins rather than trade and make only small profits.With this current market situation,i see the price is more dropping so i suggest to seize the moment by buying more bitcoins as this will definitley give us good returns in the near future.It's just a matter of time.We just need to patiently wait for it.

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By holding it for few months. Choosing longterm is good and for sure you will get a lot of money. It's hard to earn money here in dump market only buy is the only you do and hold the current coin that you have in your wallet  and for sure it will be worth it.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Shorting is applicable on all sorts of markets that do involves with buy and sell and yes it is also here on crypto market.You can short out but depending on such decisions you had made.
You might depend on technical or fundamental analysis on such decisions then its your choice.The thing which is important that you can profit out on such movement.Shorting or active trading isn't
really an easy stuff though.

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now I have never benefited from the trading market, because prices in the trade market are declining, I have not dared to deal with the trading market, now looking for profit is very difficult

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now I have never benefited from the trading market, because prices in the trade market are declining, I have not dared to deal with the trading market, now looking for profit is very difficult
You sound like you do not know the basics of trading. Just go reading few of above discussions then you will come to know that how to make use of declining market also for making profits. Yes, anyone will be able to make profits when prices are dropping by using stablecoins. Almost all the exchanges are now a days having stablecoins to trade against bitcoins and any major altcoins.

You need to convert bitcoins back and forth with stablecoin to make sure you are gaining more USD value per every transaction. Just google and get more information on how to do this.
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December 28, 2018, 06:29:58 AM
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During the dips one should start buying and accumulating it . This will help you during the bull run as you would have bought at lower rate and can make profits during the high price easily . Though it may take time and need patience when the bull run happens.
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December 28, 2018, 06:54:55 AM
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Once the price of Bitcoin is dropping it will affect the price of altcoin which has huge potential in the market. So in this case, we have to grab as many coins as possible until those prices start recovering because dropping and recovering are common in the crypto market.
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December 28, 2018, 07:46:36 AM
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Once the price of Bitcoin is dropping it will affect the price of altcoin which has huge potential in the market. So in this case, we have to grab as many coins as possible until those prices start recovering because dropping and recovering are common in the crypto market.

People also said you need to grab everything once it dropped to 12k, how has that plan worked so far??
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Once the price of Bitcoin is dropping it will affect the price of altcoin which has huge potential in the market. So in this case, we have to grab as many coins as possible until those prices start recovering because dropping and recovering are common in the crypto market.
The price fluctuation is common in crypto market, But usually peoples are panic in bleeding market so new traders are not trying to make profit because of irrelevant price variation. Altcoin is a real game changer in crypto market and right traders are make good profit in in this platform.

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December 28, 2018, 09:30:44 AM
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When the price dropping you will not get a profit, but if you buy when the price is low and wait for a while the bitcoin price rises then you have the opportunity to make a profit. Everyone has a misinterpretation when a price dropping someone can make a profit, I do not believe it really happened. You can remember the basic strategy for profit, buy low and sell high.
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It is not easy to make money especially if the price of bitcoin is falling down. But, trading with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will really help you to make money. As of now many people already lose huge amount of money because of dropping price but instead of selling they hold it because they know the price will rise soon.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Your reasoning may be correct and you go on implementing your investment strategy. According to my long experience in the investment field, no strategy is the best strategy. The strategy is only best when it is created by yourself with your own rules. So be confident to invest in your favorite altcoin. If there's a mistake, fix it, until you get a profit.

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It is not easy to make money especially if the price of bitcoin is falling down. But, trading with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will really help you to make money. As of now many people already lose huge amount of money because of dropping price but instead of selling they hold it because they know the price will rise soon.
yes, you're right, I've also tried it, and it's really very difficult. other than that, you can get it unless you trade, but it's still quite difficult, even for people who often trade.


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It is not easy to make money especially if the price of bitcoin is falling down. But, trading with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will really help you to make money. As of now many people already lose huge amount of money because of dropping price but instead of selling they hold it because they know the price will rise soon.
yes, you're right, I've also tried it, and it's really very difficult. other than that, you can get it unless you trade, but it's still quite difficult, even for people who often trade.
Have you tried the way of trading like buying when market is bouncing after a deep fall-down ? If you have tried that then I guess you will not find doing that difficult as it would be a easier way to make profits. For example, when the bitcoin market was falling up to $3200 levels, if you have bought then you may get profits until prices testing $4050. This is one simple way to make profits when prices are dropping. It is kind of buying at dips and then selling without opt for holding.

According to my long experience in the investment field, no strategy is the best strategy. The strategy is only best when it is created by yourself with your own rules.
You are having very different experience with trading. But, I like to suggest you to go for making profits from the current market which is dropping by few strategies which are explained here by some professional traders and I am sure that will work for each and every one hence you do not need to worry about.

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December 28, 2018, 07:04:25 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




I think you're pertaining to shorting with leveraging. You have to do some more research in leveraging that you can find in google or youtube videos. Shorting is just like the normal trading and they formally call it long trading.



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December 28, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



In cryptocurrencies the market allowed you to covert your holding to either USD or gbp and that makes it not to be much different from stocks or forex trading.  When bitcoin is crashing, it means is been traded against something and if you really want to makes money then the best thing to do is to hold those USD against bitcoin.  If you are holding bitcoin and the price is going down you should covert it to USD or usdt and when it has gone down enough then you buy bitcoin back and by then your bitcoin increased and when bitcoin appropriate up again you then sell it to dollar.
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December 28, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
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I think that current situation on the market is the best for day trading or short term trading anyway. Yes, the price is declining but not all the time, it's also going up in certain moments and that should be used to make a profit. But that is not easy because it requests a lot of time, you have to be present on the market all the time and be prepared to act fast when necessary. So I think this is a situation for experienced traders. I always say that it's not hard to make the money when the market is green and price is rising but in situations like now only the best expert traders could make the money.

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December 28, 2018, 08:10:51 PM
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It is not easy to make money especially if the price of bitcoin is falling down. But, trading with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will really help you to make money. As of now many people already lose huge amount of money because of dropping price but instead of selling they hold it because they know the price will rise soon.
People need to understand what they want first. Before the price took a dive they were so confident that they legit thought to hodl through any up or down swing, and now they regret that.... Pretty late don't you think?

It makes sense to short a small part of your holdings during an earlier point of a bear market, which would have made people felt a whole lot more comfortable seeing the price go down, because every dollar down is profit for you.

People now blame hodling to be a horrible method of dealing with declines in the price. Hodl is meant to be done with your very long term cold wallet stash, the smaller speculative stash is to play the market.

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December 28, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.


Yes of course you can do shorting with bitcoin, but asking this kind of question, I may assume that you're not an experienced trader here in cryptocurrency. With that, shorting is very risky for unskilled traders. Shorting is great with skilled traders because they were able to maximize the fluctuations of the prices. So, if you want to learn shorting, research more.
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December 28, 2018, 09:36:35 PM
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So i figure around now, btc price would drop.

But that's indeed happening now. At present BTC prices fluctuate very low from $ 3600- $ 3900, imo the trend for profit seems very small, but even so we still benefit because bitcoin price movements are a little predictable, use the Put-Net strategy such as buying low and sell when the price exceeds the purchase price. If you can do it, you should do it every hour.

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December 28, 2018, 09:49:51 PM
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Well-experienced and skilled traders are doing profits in the market even if the prices are goind down. All they need is fluctuations and strategy in buying and selling for a day. These traders know how to read and know when to buy and sell.
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December 29, 2018, 02:30:55 AM
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now I have never benefited from the trading market, because prices in the trade market are declining, I have not dared to deal with the trading market, now looking for profit is very difficult
You sound like you do not know the basics of trading. Just go reading few of above discussions then you will come to know that how to make use of declining market also for making profits. Yes, anyone will be able to make profits when prices are dropping by using stablecoins. Almost all the exchanges are now a days having stablecoins to trade against bitcoins and any major altcoins.

You need to convert bitcoins back and forth with stablecoin to make sure you are gaining more USD value per every transaction. Just google and get more information on how to do this.
You right, first you have to understand the basics of trading before starting. look for stable coins for your base coin, make sure the coins are quite stable and strong. for example bitcoin, you can exchange your bitcoin with other coins that are falling, and wait for a while until the coin is recovered or up, and convert it back to btc. but certainly not this as simple and easy like this, you need a lot of learning to know which coins are good, and when the right time to buy..
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December 29, 2018, 03:39:03 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



It is a good thought and we should invest in the holidays. Its price will be very low and it will be very easy for us to make profit on normal days. The market will be pumped after 2-3 times red. That's my experience and you should try it out.

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Well-experienced and skilled traders are doing profits in the market even if the prices are goind down. All they need is fluctuations and strategy in buying and selling for a day. These traders know how to read and know when to buy and sell.
even experienced and professional people find it difficult to benefit from current market conditions. yes maybe all of that must wait and be patient so as not to lose. only those who are patient will win later.
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Take advantage of the downturn situation by buying Bitcoin at a cheap price. This is an opportunity because in essence that Bitcoin is predicted to experience bullish so the price can exceed 10,000USD. Indeed we need patience and also need calm until the situation gets better. Be patient and then we will get the opportunity to gain big profits in the future.
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Take advantage of the downturn situation by buying Bitcoin at a cheap price. This is an opportunity because in essence that Bitcoin is predicted to experience bullish so the price can exceed 10,000USD. Indeed we need patience and also need calm until the situation gets better. Be patient and then we will get the opportunity to gain big profits in the future.
if we have faith bitcoin will recovered to $10.000 just buy it now.bitcoin price still arroung $3950 at this moment, and its cheap enough for us.maybe next year we could take our profits.

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December 29, 2018, 11:01:33 AM
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Some six months back I was deliberately looking for how to shorting  with cryptocurrencies. At the time no one was able to explain me your procedure of shorting with stable coin. This must be a working plan of making money with down fall market.
No, it has been explained many times in this forum and many people are already making use of this type of trading for making profits from the downfall market. This must be the actual use of why we are having stablecoins. Have you ever thought about why we are having some coins which are having value always exactly one dollar ? You may go for googling for enlightening yourselves for more clear idea about making use of stablecoins.

Bitcoin or ethereum are good ones for holding for years so that we can make the maximum profits compared to what we could make by trading in downfall market.
Ethereum may get replaced by waves or when bitcoin will be providing platforms for tokens on its own blockchain itself. I mean to say it is always good to hold only bitcoin for years so that you can ensure about maximum profit compared to struggling with any other coin which are severely getting impacted on downfall market.

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December 29, 2018, 11:18:31 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



I think in some market there are feature to do this, like in Poloniex. But it almost same with it, you take short or long, what it called, margin if me not wrong. But i am not try it yet because don't really understand about system

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December 29, 2018, 12:29:24 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



I think in some market there are feature to do this, like in Poloniex. But it almost same with it, you take short or long, what it called, margin if me not wrong. But i am not try it yet because don't really understand about system

In trading business we can make money while the price of Bitcoin is very low because traders does not need the price of all you can eat only experience and training on that field otherwise you cannot make much more money in this area .

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Take advantage of the downturn situation by buying Bitcoin at a cheap price. This is an opportunity because in essence that Bitcoin is predicted to experience bullish so the price can exceed 10,000USD. Indeed we need patience and also need calm until the situation gets better. Be patient and then we will get the opportunity to gain big profits in the future.
if we have faith bitcoin will recovered to $10.000 just buy it now.bitcoin price still arroung $3950 at this moment, and its cheap enough for us.maybe next year we could take our profits.
Yes, It would be a big opportunity for us now to buy and hodl the bitcoin because we can have a chance to adopt it in low price on which is in the near future it can become a widely used payment method and as we expected it can be turn into bullish market on which can help us to generate a huge profit just be patience.

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Take advantage of the downturn situation by buying Bitcoin at a cheap price. This is an opportunity because in essence that Bitcoin is predicted to experience bullish so the price can exceed 10,000USD. Indeed we need patience and also need calm until the situation gets better. Be patient and then we will get the opportunity to gain big profits in the future.

Since the start of leverage trading, people get profit both from the pump and dump of the bitcoin. People short the bitcoin on platforms like bitmex and get profit, so now its two way profit both from the increase and decrease of BTC prices, provided you predict the right movement of bitcoin.

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December 29, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
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The best way to make money is to put a sell order before the price starts to drop. That way you will not lose too much money when the trend starts to go downwards.

If you can keep your money at your pocket while the price is dropping you can at least get away from the big fall. At that point its your decision to either way to get in or you can just see the price falling and when it stops falling you can buy more bitcoins than you initial had, instead of having 0.8 btc having 0.83 is better for example, its still same dollar amount but this time when the price goes back to your entry point you will be profiting.

At least that is what I have been doing for a while now. I just get in buy and wait for it to go up, when it goes up and stops I sell, than wait for it to go down and when it stops going down I buy, repeat.
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December 29, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
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Not entirely sure if stock market strategy would directly work in here though, maybe they would differ when it comes to terminologies.
Making money in bearish trend would be just be synonymous to earning Bitcoin not its equivalent value since you can't raise something that simply drops in a sense. It might be stupid but you could just play away your Bitcoin to gambling if you're feeling that lucky like sports betting. You could pump that Bitcoin by faucets like in FreeBitcoin site, but you'll be depending purely in luck to roll the best number. I don't know if there are some other faucet that would offer the same but so far this is the site I know. If you're somehow active in trading, you could try day-trading in some exchanges although don't expect that much of a profit.

Shorting will work on any market, crypto or stock market. You work what ever and you are paid for that, in dollars or bitcoins, that has specific value in moment when you are receiving your paycheck. What is shorting, if you think that price will drop more you are selling amount of coins you have, waiting for price to drop and you buy again same amount you had, if price drop you have same amount of coins and you have cash from difference in price, in dollars. It's gambling in some way, you are playing on that price drop. You can that with any currency, why crypto is the best for it, cause of the range of fluctuations, generally you have fluctuations everywhere but in crypto they happen in short period of time.
Pumping bitcoin with faucets doesn't mean anything, you probably wanted to say pumping your own amount with 30 satoshis per hour. You need to learn a lot, your comment is full of mistakes.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



I think in some market there are feature to do this, like in Poloniex. But it almost same with it, you take short or long, what it called, margin if me not wrong. But i am not try it yet because don't really understand about system

In trading business we can make money while the price of Bitcoin is very low because traders does not need the price of all you can eat only experience and training on that field otherwise you cannot make much more money in this area .
You are right in trading you will not have to spend thousands of dollars but you will be able to earn good income with skills, patience and your holding for long term. Making money at price drop in possible only to buy at low and sell high later on for this you will have to wait long patiently.
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December 29, 2018, 11:59:10 PM
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when BTC drops, we cannot get profit, but at the same time and indirectly you can use the opportunity to buy btc. Of course you have to be able to analyze the chart, if it will still drop, or btc will go up. Crypto is volatile, its need some strategy when you enter it

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December 30, 2018, 06:21:57 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.
I don’t really get what you’re saying, and the sentence you made here doesn’t seem to rhyme with your topic. Your topic says how to make money when the price of Bitcoin is dropping, so I will answer just that. There are ways you can do that and one way you can do so by cryptocurrency arbitrage trading.

If you don’t know the meaning, you can search it up on Google. Then you can also do some micro tasks Bitcoin for Bitcoin, anyone you decide choose. If you can’t do any, then all you got to do is Hodl.
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December 30, 2018, 07:00:43 AM
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when BTC drops, we cannot get profit, but at the same time and indirectly you can use the opportunity to buy btc. Of course you have to be able to analyze the chart, if it will still drop, or btc will go up. Crypto is volatile, its need some strategy when you enter it
No, you can still get profits when BTC drops. Just get back into this discussion as many people has already explained various methods to make profits when bitcoin prices are falling down. If you ask me, we can make profit when BTC drops through direct and indirect methods. Direct method is some exchanges are providing shorting way of trading, you may go for selling first and then you need to buy. Second method is, making use of stable-coins for locking USD value. Just google for more information on this.

Since the start of leverage trading, people get profit both from the pump and dump of the bitcoin. People short the bitcoin on platforms like bitmex and get profit
Leverage trading has anything to do with shorting kind of trading ? I am sorry that I'm not aware of why shorting needs leverage trading whereas why not we can go for shorting within our capital ? Do we need any more capital which is bigger than what actually we are having in BTC or USDT for usual trading ? I'm just curious what is the relation between leveraged trading and shorting.
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December 30, 2018, 08:15:03 AM
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Making money with bitcoin if the price is dropping isn't easy dude. and it's very risky which can cause huge losses especially doing short term.  Unless if you have experienced on it and you have strategies that can prevent loses . If i were you just put your money on it and hold for long term 'cause that's the only thing and effective way to obtain massive profits.  But must have a lot of patience.  
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December 30, 2018, 11:53:02 AM
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Shorting is very practicable in cryptocurrency, and there are very educative contents on the internet which can help you get a grasp of it.

Shorting is a trade, which begins by selling. You sell at a higher price (if you expect the price to drop) and them buy back at a lower price.
In the end you could hold the same quantity of bitcoins but have profits. Or more amounts without putting in more capital.
Yes, shorting maybe profitable but at the same time very risky if we are not too careful on how to do it. It would be better to put some stop loss to minimize loses if ever something may get out of control.
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Since the bitcoin market and its price is dropping, I think this is the best way to buy some bitcoin using your money. When you already bought some, wait for its price to become profittable.

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December 30, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




It's much risky way to earn some bitcoin. because you dont know when market fall or when rise. if you want earn some money from trading then you have to know about how to trade. otherwise if you take those such a foolish step you may lose your money.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




It's much risky way to earn some bitcoin. because you dont know when market fall or when rise. if you want earn some money from trading then you have to know about how to trade. otherwise if you take those such a foolish step you may lose your money.
Well i thinknit is really hard to warn maoney in crypto in this kind of situation because we are now on a very huge dip. I believe that there are so many crypto lover are now didn't earn today. However we can all prepare for the next pump and we can now buy more bitcoinnas hold. We cannot maybe earn today but in the near future we can always earn a huge amount of profit if we are going to have a great patience to wait for the next rising of the price or in green status. So then I suggest everyone to buy more on today for good.
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December 30, 2018, 08:52:12 PM
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This is quite interesting, and currently the price of bitcoin is hovering around its 3k8 price range and sideways performance. I'm not sure if this is the hard bottom of the bit, but I still choose to buy it at this time and wait for the hardfork wave from ETH in January 2019
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January 01, 2019, 08:45:18 AM
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It's much risky way to earn some bitcoin.
The risk is only encountered when you are going to convert btc to fiat or so. There is no harm in earning some coins as long as its not prohibited as per local rules and law enforcement is not interested in it.

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because you dont know when market fall or when rise.
Thats called market risk. If you cannot handle that then its not worth getting into bitcoin or any altcoin. But you can always be sure that in future price will rise because bitcoin has certain properties which makes it unique and thus it generates demand.

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There are people who play the long term hodl game. It always less panic associated and safer to do. Smiley

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Well how does one short anything if they don't have anything to begin with?  Example you have 10000 dollars.  You think btc will drop in price pretty soon.  So how could you short if you have btc on you at the moment?  Because wouldn't shorting require you to either have btc already?  Because say you think btc will drop soon.  Well you certainly arent going to buy any btc anytime soon right?  Because i thought shorting means you can bet on it dropping in price from now?  

From what I understand, shorting requires you to lend from the broker/exchange/trading platform in order to sell high and buy back in low, the difference in your sell and buy price is your profit - once you've paid back the initial entry position or your margin.  
 
For example, say that back in Nov-2018, you'd predicted that the news of the imminent BCH hard fork would have a negative affect in the BTC market, and entered in a position with 0.005 BTC ($32 USD) and 100x leverage in order to short sell BTC at $6400 USD.  
 
As you expected the market crashed and you bought back in at the market low of $3900. The difference was $6400 - $3900 = $2500. With the $2500 decrease in market times your 0.005 BTC stake = $12.50 profit.  Then multiply your profit of $12.50 by 100x leverage, and you come away with = $1,250 profit.  Finally, minus your initial investment of $32 USD (0.005 BTC) + the platform's leverage fee.  
 
If the market turned upwards in the opposite direction than you predicted, you could very quickly lose your original investment (before leverage was added) ... which is why stop-loss and limit orders are crucial so that you can pre-dictate at what point you wish to liquidate and cut your losses.  For this reason bigger margins/smaller leverage is typically recommended for beginner traders as a stop loss could be triggered more easily with a smaller margin, thus losing your position prematurely.   Prime XBT (https://PrimeXBT.com) is a new crypto trading platform that offers all of these advanced strategies and risk management techniques simultaneously, so you can benefit from an increased profit potential with up to 100x leverage on long and short positions, and with the parachute of stop-loss order.  
 
 
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January 10, 2019, 03:43:15 PM
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You can certainly make some profit in the current market situation, some time bitcoin price fluctuates 5 - 10 percent, you have to seize that opportunity and buy cheap and sell again later when the price increases. This strategy works, but there is not guarantee that it would work always.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



If you can handle the risks in the market, then definitely you can survive even the price of the bitcoin is dropping. There are also techniques and strategies that you can use for you to make money while the bear market is still occurring.
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I'm not sure about how to generate profits when the price drops, because at that time many holders panicked. Maybe the only way is to buy coins at lower prices when the market falls and the coin has the potential to recover, but here the problem is to find coins which have that potential.

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January 10, 2019, 06:55:06 PM
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Well how does one short anything if they don't have anything to begin with?  Example you have 10000 dollars.  You think btc will drop in price pretty soon.  So how could you short if you have btc on you at the moment?  Because wouldn't shorting require you to either have btc already?  Because say you think btc will drop soon.  Well you certainly arent going to buy any btc anytime soon right?  Because i thought shorting means you can bet on it dropping in price from now? 

From what I understand, shorting requires you to lend from the broker/exchange/trading platform in order to sell high and buy back in low, the difference in your sell and buy price is your profit - once you've paid back the initial entry position or your margin. 
 
For example, say that back in Nov-2018, you'd predicted that the news of the imminent BCH hard fork would have a negative affect in the BTC market, and entered in a position with 0.005 BTC ($32 USD) and 100x leverage in order to short sell BTC at $6400 USD. 
 
As you expected the market crashed and you bought back in at the market low of $3900. The difference was $6400 - $3900 = $2500. With the $2500 decrease in market times your 0.005 BTC stake = $12.50 profit.  Then multiply your profit of $12.50 by 100x leverage, and you come away with = $1,250 profit.  Finally, minus your initial investment of $32 USD (0.005 BTC) + the platform's leverage fee. 
 
Obviously if the market turned upwards in the opposite direction than you predicted, there is potentially no limit to how high this could go and with that your losses... which is why stop-loss and limit orders are crucial, so that you can pre-dictate at what point you wish to liquidate and cut your losses.  For this reason bigger margins/smaller leverage is typically recommended for beginner traders as a stop loss could be triggered more easily with a smaller margin, thus losing your position prematurely.   Prime XBT (https://PrimeXBT.com) is a new crypto trading platform that offers all of these advanced strategies and risk management techniques simultaneously, so you can benefit from an increased profit potential with up to 100x leverage on long and short positions, and with the parachute of stop-loss order. 
 
 

Mate after all your discussion first I must say you have good knowledge about crypto currency and the other thing I must say you not to compare price of two different years with because bitcoin is so anonymous and it can change anytime no body really know what will happen next. So  the whole thing is there is only one way to make money with dropping price is to buy more and more to store longer and let it grow.

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I'm not sure about how to generate profits when the price drops, because at that time many holders panicked. Maybe the only way is to buy coins at lower prices when the market falls and the coin has the potential to recover, but here the problem is to find coins which have that potential.
Being patient is required in trading but entering to trade too late is also dangerous. Professional traders wait for opportunity to show itself in markets and they wait for settled dust before grabbing right position. Lower prices are illusion and bottom line is how you see it depending on the time frame.
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January 10, 2019, 07:24:22 PM
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I think that during the decline in the price of bitcoin so far I have not benefited from anything, but I better endure in the long run to wait for a more normal price increase.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




If the price so far of bitcoin was still in declined value, well I guess it is still great to buy now because of its cheap price value.
Now if you can't wait for a long time, day trade is the good idea for us to earn bit of it, though it needs also a bit careful about it. We can earn or can also wreck too if we do the wrong moves.
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You could short bitcoin in a simple form, study the chart and decide whether bitcoin will move up or down,  then buy or sell  and when any of your prediction come true,  take profit and re-enter to buy your previous holding!

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we could using tic tac strategy.use one of our coins and trade it in limited range.but this strategy only work on stable market while price moves up and down in limited range.

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In this bear market shorting works very good but you have to see the market condition and then short according to it, yesterday market fell more then 10% down 5% in morning and then next 5% in evening so who ever shorted would have earned a lot.
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For me if i want to get profit from the current situations then i will set my profit to minimize because difficult to get huge profit then i can accept small profit as long i'm not loss and usually there are small movement of price for each day that sometimes it was raise 2% - 3% and you can utilize it for small profit too and in the middle of downtrend i think 3% profit or less would be fine for me
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January 11, 2019, 07:07:49 AM
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It's much risky way to earn some bitcoin.
The risk is only encountered when you are going to convert btc to fiat or so. There is no harm in earning some coins as long as its not prohibited as per local rules and law enforcement is not interested in it.

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because you dont know when market fall or when rise.
Thats called market risk. If you cannot handle that then its not worth getting into bitcoin or any altcoin. But you can always be sure that in future price will rise because bitcoin has certain properties which makes it unique and thus it generates demand.

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if you want earn some money from trading then you have to know about how to trade. otherwise if you take those such a foolish step you may lose your money.
There are people who play the long term hodl game. It always less panic associated and safer to do. Smiley
That's right because by holding it back it's good to make a profit even though we must always wait until the market and bitcoin rise again

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we could using tic tac strategy.use one of our coins and trade it in limited range.but this strategy only work on stable market while price moves up and down in limited range.
Generally when the price of any asset is moving between a support and a resistance level it is an indication of a breakout ready to happen.

Soon the support level will lose the ammunition to support any more or the resistance level will run out of its shields. Its important to analyse the older market charts to know how strong these support and resistance levels are so you can predict when exactly the breakout is going to happen. After that you may be able to take advantage of the situation once the price start moving in the correct way that you predicted. It may not do so as well in which case you just have to keep waiting.

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January 12, 2019, 12:15:51 PM
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how to get money when the bitcoin price drops?
the best way is to buy more, with that you will have more and more bitcoin to be your long-term investment.
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That's simple.

You can make money on Bitcoin crashing by shorting it.One way is to “borrow” someones bitcoin and sell it today. You get to keep the money and when the price drops you buy bitcoin at a lower price than you sold it. You then give the person you borrowed the bitcoin from the bitcoin back. You keep the difference the price.
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Even in the worst situations we can get a chance to make a profit. All we need to do is choose the right time. If there is a profit gap, take action immediately, never wait too long. We can get a little profit, but if we can increase the intensity in gaining profit then it will make us get many benefits. So in a situation like this we need a speed in making decisions.
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January 14, 2019, 08:18:53 AM
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how to get money when the bitcoin price drops?
the best way is to buy more, with that you will have more and more bitcoin to be your long-term investment.
Maybe what is meant by OP is when prices decline can traders be able to get profits, even though I have never been sure profits can be obtained when prices decline. When the price really decline then I am sure there will not be traders who can benefit. They will only buy when the price is at the bottom, then they hold for a while and wait for the price to rise slowly.

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Of course there can be money made while the market is going down. When a coin is in a downtrend it does not go straight down. There will be some small 0.5-2% bounces back up during the downtrend. Every single bounce can be used to make some profits. Myself I do this all the time. The only thing I learned is not to go all in but do 5% of your balance entries so you can buy more if after you entered it doesn't bounce but drops a little further.

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how to get money when the bitcoin price drops?
the best way is to buy more, with that you will have more and more bitcoin to be your long-term investment.
I think thats not what the topic is about. It is true no doubt about it but I think the OP wants to know how they can trade even when the bear run is going on.

You can make money on Bitcoin crashing by shorting it.One way is to “borrow” someones bitcoin and sell it today. You get to keep the money and when the price drops you buy bitcoin at a lower price than you sold it. You then give the person you borrowed the bitcoin from the bitcoin back. You keep the difference the price.
LOL its not that simple as it seems to be. "Shorting" an asset does not practice and its risky as anything. You need to be an expert and have previous experience to successfully short coins to make profit and at the same time be in an overall profit. No wonder when you are shorting the market may keep on dipping and you may not be able to sell it at a good position. Its nerve racking and not something average traders should try.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




So far the value of Bitcoin was 3670$ which is really good chance to buy for those who have budget or capital to do it then hold.
Aside from that you can also buy ethereum now due so far it was 124$, also buy Neo, Xlm, Nem, and Qtum too. Then never sell them instead hold em until bull run happen.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.
Btc price now drop, but I think after some month btc will be some high, so now it the time is buy btc.

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The only thing i know profitable when the market is declined is the buy low sell high type of trading. Sorry but im quite confused about how you make profit while the market is consecutively dropping. Isnt that means more negative on your part? All we want is a green market and that is all we know we can make profit.

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We can't do nothing except by holding.
When you already purchase in high level better to set 10% loss tolerance before you are suffering more loss.
Overall I'm already experience more than 100% loss because of downtrending !

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



The whale's psychology is not as easy to speculate as you might think. They always have charts to analyze the psychology of traders before deciding to lower prices or raise prices.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



There are some exchanges that allow you to do that but it is difficult to make money that way, have you even mastered making money when the price goes up? If not then it is better to leave shorting alone and to not do it until you learn how to make money like most people do here, you do not mention this in your post but avoiding using leverage is also very important if you are a newbie trader.
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maybe you should immediately take CutLoss action and wait for the lowest price after that buy again and wait for the green candle, but don't worry that the Bitcoin price will recover soon, I think the price of $ 10K Bitcoin is enough to make many traders crypto glad
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



if bitcoin goes down, it might be very difficult for us to make a profit.
because we cannot sell losses, the best possibility is that we cannot sell, we can only buy, or we can look for other coins that still have profit potential and we can infest into many coins.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



if bitcoin goes down, it might be very difficult for us to make a profit.
because we cannot sell losses, the best possibility is that we cannot sell, we can only buy, or we can look for other coins that still have profit potential and we can infest into many coins.
As long coins that we buy is really good, it means we must pick it very carefully and not make us more suffer if loss again. Maybe stay hold still better than rush to get profit daily. Or change to long term investment.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




So far the value of Bitcoin was 3670$ which is really good chance to buy for those who have budget or capital to do it then hold.
Aside from that you can also buy ethereum now due so far it was 124$, also buy Neo, Xlm, Nem, and Qtum too. Then never sell them instead hold em until bull run happen.
Right now it’s the best chance for all investors to get profit even with the fallen price as they can buy very cheap and hold until the price recovers. Time makes things in our favor so but now and hold this is best way to turn things profitable. Bitcoin is at best point not to high but later on it will become really expensive so buy now.
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if bitcoin goes down, it might be very difficult for us to make a profit.
because we cannot sell losses, the best possibility is that we cannot sell, we can only buy, or we can look for other coins that still have profit potential and we can infest into many coins.
''Scalping'' might be useful in this situation. In fact I can say that this is not so different from shorting. You can also try other trading sectors, e.g Forex. It is not as profitable as crypto according to volatility. But it is kind of trade where technical analysis works better and manipulation is very rare.
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The only thing i know profitable when the market is declined is the buy low sell high type of trading. Sorry but im quite confused about how you make profit while the market is consecutively dropping. Isnt that means more negative on your part? All we want is a green market and that is all we know we can make profit.
The market yet to be stable in some time but not really a good time to do trading except on the few weeks where Bitcoin almost reach $41xx but it just dropped back to $36xx somehow and no one knows why but it just goes all the way down. Anyway, buy low sell high is one of the most common thing in trading to let someone earn a decent profit but it depends on the trader on how he wants to do it.

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The price of Bitcoin is not always falling even on a bear market. Scalpers very much know this one goes as they are good in buying and selling at the right time and they gain a lot of money for this. Just look at the charts and you will see that there's a time price will slightly go up, thats where scalpers sell, just set a small goal to like 2-3%.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




So far the value of Bitcoin was 3670$ which is really good chance to buy for those who have budget or capital to do it then hold.
Aside from that you can also buy ethereum now due so far it was 124$, also buy Neo, Xlm, Nem, and Qtum too. Then never sell them instead hold em until bull run happen.
Right now it’s the best chance for all investors to get profit even with the fallen price as they can buy very cheap and hold until the price recovers. Time makes things in our favor so but now and hold this is best way to turn things profitable. Bitcoin is at best point not to high but later on it will become really expensive so buy now.
You're right about this time to be the best time for all investors to get enough profit because they can actually buy cheap but thing I learnt so far is that freedom was the most thing that leads to alot of people failure. Therefore, it very important for all investors not to be greedy and examine every coins they are going to invest in

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January 18, 2019, 02:25:27 PM
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Shorting as you have described may be expected to happen in any business not only in bitcoin. And what exactly are you looking for from the story you said you read. Is it how to short or how to avoid shorting or you just want us to know one can short. Huh
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Shorting as you have described may be expected to happen in any business not only in bitcoin. And what exactly are you looking for from the story you said you read. Is it how to short or how to avoid shorting or you just want us to know one can short. Huh


The main advantage and the useful thing in gambling was we can earn income while the price was very low this will be the main advantage that we have seen in the trading cryptocurrency but it need some experience also once you get that experience you can definitely make money while the price dropping.
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Shorting allows us to make money even in the bearish market but even experienced investors can lose money if the bearish market is not certain. I have observed that usually, price starts floating around a particular price band and that causes losses to the short traders trading with the margins. There are some websites where you can short sell Bitcoins but putting stop loss is a necessity to avoid further losses if things started going in the opposite direction.
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We are currently experiencing a bear market and some major coins are at the dip in terms of their prices. In order for us to make money with bitcoin's price dropping, is simply just buy more bitcoin/s and hodl it for a meantime, just sell your bitcoin/s once the price increased or pumped once again.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




So far the value of Bitcoin was 3670$ which is really good chance to buy for those who have budget or capital to do it then hold.
Aside from that you can also buy ethereum now due so far it was 124$, also buy Neo, Xlm, Nem, and Qtum too. Then never sell them instead hold em until bull run happen.
if asked how to get profit from falling prices, of course by buying it. because when the price falls the opportunity comes, you can buy at a cheaper price before the price rises again? the point is you have to know the lowest price that happened, or when the price stopped going down and you bought it
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In order to make a profit when the price of Bitcoin is dropping is only through buy buying low values altcoin in the market when their price is very low. In this way, sometime we may double our Bitcoin in days, through Bitcoin trading it is impossible to make fast money.
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




I think you use momentum strategy to get income, no big deal but I'm afraid every momentum has different impact ( not always same ). Use momentum strategy need big money and fundamental analysis to get good analysis. I'll not teach you about it but how about you try it by your self and see what happen. Not always work but you can learn something.

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January 19, 2019, 09:31:09 AM
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Making money while the bitcoin price drops isn't that easy task. Continued observation will give a detailed overview about the market as well help you with the right pick of altcoins for trading. To make a good earning through trade it is good to select the asset that has got the assurance of growth as well a fluctuating market. This will give access to buy low and sell at a higher price, also a good volume of investment is the right thing to get a better earning while the same isn't possible with small funds.
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In order to make a profit when the price of Bitcoin is dropping is only through buy buying low values altcoin in the market when their price is very low. In this way, sometime we may double our Bitcoin in days, through Bitcoin trading it is impossible to make fast money.
a common thing that people often do is, buy low, then hold it back. that's how they benefit from a fairly low market. yeah, but I think, it's very difficult to do that, and of course a big risk is needed to make a profit. well, even I rarely use such moments myself.
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I think you use momentum strategy to get income, no big deal but I'm afraid every momentum has different impact ( not always same ). Use momentum strategy need big money and fundamental analysis to get good analysis. I'll not teach you about it but how about you try it by your self and see what happen. Not always work but you can learn something.
It not always possible to short and get a profit so there needs to be a wait and watch strategy for traders as well. I know it does not sound like a strategy but if you apply it during the bear market you can do recon without having to lose money. Shorting should be done by those who are experts in the technical analysis and not something that I would suggest a newbie to know except for academic purposes.

Indeed if you are borrowing money to short coins you are posing a risk of getting bankrupt as well.

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January 22, 2019, 09:08:32 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




As of now, you can still see the price of Bitcoin a bit low than what it was the previous years. So in order for you to earn from it, you should learn to trade different altcoins and do some timing trades. Buy low price tokens with high volume then sell it when it rises in price. Even for a bit by bit of a profit, at least you are not on the lossing end of this current drops.

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A short or long trade may have a possibility to lost money, you just have to make the right move in trading in order to earn money. In crypto, the only way to short is by margin trading. Study well and think twice before you get into margin trading, it is much risky than regular trading.
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Although the long trend shows a decline, it doesn't mean that the prices will run in one direction only. There are times when prices will rise slightly before returning to the long trend. Such moments can be used to find profit in the short term and of course with a small quantity. We must monitor price movements carefully if we want to do that. So, yes, even though there is a price decline, we still have the chance to look for profit.

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Although the long trend shows a decline, it doesn't mean that the prices will run in one direction only. There are times when prices will rise slightly before returning to the long trend. Such moments can be used to find profit in the short term and of course with a small quantity. We must monitor price movements carefully if we want to do that. So, yes, even though there is a price decline, we still have the chance to look for profit.
Most people cannot make a profit in this market and we should accept the fact that this market is at a very difficult stage and any investment will affect assets. our . At this point, be patient and keep Fiat and you will have many other opportunities to make a better profit


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The price keeps dropping. a friend just told me about an article he read saying Ethereum will still dump.  the Crypto Market is Not easy. You need to learn the basic at least Know what you are doing. don't just jump into the market because you see Green, you will definitely get burned. Make sure you know what you are doing whenever you want to join the Market.
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If we shorting any asset that mean we are trade it by use leverage, and this mean the risk will be higher than spot trading but we can minimize the risk by use low leverage and stop loss. There are many trading platform that allow to short crypto and stocks. If we know the trend of crypto, we will know in which trading platform should be trading.

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In order to make a profit when the price of Bitcoin is dropping is only through buy buying low values altcoin in the market when their price is very low. In this way, sometime we may double our Bitcoin in days, through Bitcoin trading it is impossible to make fast money.
a common thing that people often do is, buy low, then hold it back. that's how they benefit from a fairly low market. yeah, but I think, it's very difficult to do that, and of course a big risk is needed to make a profit. well, even I rarely use such moments myself.
ufortunately that's not easy as we said.looking price in low quite difficult for us now.moreover after price make low , it continues make new low again.and its very risky to us.

it isnt hard to buy a btc  mate  but its hard to choose if you are into tokens and some alts that arent promising . it doesnt mean that if theres a decline , the price will decline forever because this is only a correction  and the price will be back again to normal in the few weeks .  

Nowadays its pretty hard to make money knowing that the prices werent in good condition  . i guess the only way is to invest or trade in more stable assets . stocks for example
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January 23, 2019, 03:29:45 AM
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Some say shorting would be the best strategy but I feel so doubtful that it will recover and play between $3,5k to $4k over and over again. If only it it's on the $6k mark then shorting will be on our favor. But it depends on how much risk you can take.
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January 23, 2019, 03:37:37 AM
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Bitcoin is quite a volatile currency and just because of this you can earn, falling is the best opportunity to buy at a low price and sell at a higher
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January 23, 2019, 06:09:36 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




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I haven't been in Bitmex, do they offer leverage?

The only method so far that I've tried in making money while the price is declining is by sending all my funds to a stable coin and then buy back to accumulate more BTC, it doesn't work much when the bears keep pushing down. But it does work when market is stable.





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January 23, 2019, 09:21:07 PM
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falling is the best opportunity to buy at a low price and sell at a higher
Of course, investing today even if it is not nowadays, will return as big earnings in the future. But, today's earnings depend on your instincts. If it shows the right way, you will gain. It is dusty and foggy and impossible to see forward.
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If the price increase that is the only for you to earn.  Dropping have good also for you because for sure you can get more profit.
But here's the thing of dropping you need to wait more years or if we are lucky to recover again bitcoin value but like what we experienced it will not  only few months because need 1 year or more.
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January 26, 2019, 02:25:46 AM
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You need to follow the market closely to make a good profit during the price drop because, in these periods, prices come out very fast and go down. I had Bitcoin in the past week and wanted to sell, and then I sold my bitcoin on a stock market site, and then I saw that bitcoin's price fell a little bit Then I bought it again and waited a few days and the price went up and I sold it again. in short, I made a good profit unintentionally and without planning. What I meant in that writing was to tell you how easy to earn money you would make if you followed the market closely during the price dropping period.

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When the price drops, it is sure to then rise, so I start to buy at a lower price, but do not need to do it for the full amount of the deposit
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When the price drops, it is sure to then rise, so I start to buy at a lower price, but do not need to do it for the full amount of the deposit
Surely it will play well, just stick to your plan and don't bothered for any downfalls happen. Mostly traders fails because they don't have a concrete plan and even they have but they can't manage to follow through.
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January 26, 2019, 08:21:50 AM
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When the price drops, it is sure to then rise, so I start to buy at a lower price, but do not need to do it for the full amount of the deposit
Surely it will play well, just stick to your plan and don't bothered for any downfalls happen. Mostly traders fails because they don't have a concrete plan and even they have but they can't manage to follow through.
Following the steps of some successful traders will give light for a better result and even made you more profitable.
Downfalls happen every once in a while, we dont make money when price is dropping, its the time we need to risk our chances and get into something and wait. Its the great thing when you buy at bottom, than a way from there can only be up and thats the time for making profit, when price is rising. Now when price is down risk and buy, than wait to start rising again, waiting can pay off.



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January 26, 2019, 03:26:03 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



I can across "shorting" for the first time. I am not that interested towards stock markets so perhaps never came across the synonym "shorting". But it sounds something intresting. Perhaps by calculating the demand, we can assume the profits by selling and buying at approximate time?
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January 26, 2019, 03:28:49 PM
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buy above the price of buying bitcoin support, you will enjoy prices that bounce when prices go down and are profitable, just follow the people you can trust to see the analysis

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January 26, 2019, 07:57:55 PM
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buy above the price of buying bitcoin support, you will enjoy prices that bounce when prices go down and are profitable, just follow the people you can trust to see the analysis



 you can buy some good currencies then trade in anytime using trading show the price drop is not a big problem for a trader to do this job and getting profit because you can earn money in the situation very easily.

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need to do more short but we want practice some  time we covert to usdt then btc price going small up we are panic don't be panic to short
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When the price drops, it is sure to then rise, so I start to buy at a lower price, but do not need to do it for the full amount of the deposit
The only advantage you can get from falling prices is to buy because you can get coin with cheaper price. but make sure that you wait for the right time to buy. look for the lowest price of the falling price. you can see it from the chart on the market
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January 27, 2019, 03:14:25 AM
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If bitcoin price get dropping the only thing to do is buy them at low price and sell them if there any chance to pump even a small amount. Because you can't make profit if the price of bitcoin get dropping always.

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now the price of bitcoin is also down, so I think you can make a profit by buying cheap prices. so you will also get more profits.

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January 27, 2019, 06:27:19 AM
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now the price of bitcoin is also down, so I think you can make a profit by buying cheap prices. so you will also get more profits.
It is right that if we buy at lower price, we will have profits but what if the price drops even more than it is now? What if the price reach down $1k again? We should also consider such negative points while we go for trading. Studying the graph of the coin we are investing into is a good idea to understand the markets, market-cap, volume, etc. If you want to invest for more than a year than buying at the current price can be a good source of investment as prices may hike up in the upcoming future.
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buy as much as you can , and keep increse ur bitcoin ammount , do trading and keep increse the bitcoin ammount , no matter the price , it will be good in the future
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The key has always been to invest money you can afford to lose. You can assume any possibility in crypto trading and it may work out or it may not work out. You have to be ready to bear the outcome of your decisions.
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Actually I don't like to take this risk with Bitcoin and that's why I didn't try it. I think loss and profits both are possible.

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That's easy, short selling means you sell something that's not your possension yet.

It adhers to the principle: "Always sell high and then buy low.


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Waiting for Bitcoin to drop sharply at a price you think is the lowest it can be, you buy it. And then wait for the market to recover, sell your Bitcoin to make a profit. No worries if you earn hope in bad things.

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now the price of bitcoin is also down, so I think you can make a profit by buying cheap prices. so you will also get more profits.
yes of course we will buy coins when the price is cheap, but when the current market conditions regardless of the price of the coins we buy will certainly be difficult to get a profit. indeed making money is easy but if the problem of profit or loss is up to you who determines.

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January 27, 2019, 11:10:32 PM
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now the price of bitcoin is also down, so I think you can make a profit by buying cheap prices. so you will also get more profits.
yes of course we will buy coins when the price is cheap, but when the current market conditions regardless of the price of the coins we buy will certainly be difficult to get a profit. indeed making money is easy but if the problem of profit or loss is up to you who determines.



This market situation difficult to make profits and yes i agree harder to determine making money at this moment in crypto, but one thing I am sure keep safing the coins for long term it surely huge interest can get in the future.
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It would definitely be awesome if I had the ability to short Bitcoin (not because I believe Bitcoin is going down, but because I do believe it's not exactly hard to isolate moments of fear w/ Bitcoin. It's literally a news article at this point)

I'm in Canada, unsure if any local exchanges allow shorting here.

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It would definitely be awesome if I had the ability to short Bitcoin (not because I believe Bitcoin is going down, but because I do believe it's not exactly hard to isolate moments of fear w/ Bitcoin. It's literally a news article at this point)

I'm in Canada, unsure if any local exchanges allow shorting here.
yes, having the ability to make money when prices are down is really a useful ability. however, I have tried to do that, but still get a loss. well, I just think that most people who do this, only use the situation to get coins at cheap prices, and sell them when prices really rise.
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January 28, 2019, 11:03:24 AM
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Waiting for Bitcoin to drop sharply at a price you think is the lowest it can be, you buy it. And then wait for the market to recover, sell your Bitcoin to make a profit. No worries if you earn hope in bad things.
- Well, many people always think and follow the methods you say, predicts the lowest price that Bitcoin could be achieved then buy it, waiting for the market to rise again, and they will receive a huge profit but unfortunately, this market is not easy to predict as many people think. The price of bitcoin continuously falls and goes wrong with all expectations, the recovery time still has no answer, the profit we want still does not appear, loss is the only thing everyone sees when they want to make money with falling bitcoin prices, it is best not to be greedy when the price of bitcoin drops, it always has risks that we can not imagine


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January 28, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




Well, for me, I just try to exploit on some loopholes that I see. For example, if there are good coins that are falling in value at one point but has a good chance of climbing back up some time in the near future, I usually invest in them and buy some good amount of it while the value is low. At least, that way, I could get to have a stack of those coins in preparation for the time when its value increases again. Also, in the market today, don't wait for assets to sky-rocket like how it was before because that's not how it works now. As investor, we have to contain ourselves even to small gains, especially when the market is not doing so great because having little gain is still better than having none.
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January 30, 2019, 10:16:40 PM
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Shorting allows us to make money even in the bearish market but even experienced investors can lose money if the bearish market is not certain. I have observed that usually, price starts floating around a particular price band and that causes losses to the short traders trading with the margins. There are some websites where you can short sell Bitcoins but putting stop loss is a necessity to avoid further losses if things started going in the opposite direction.
Shorting can be very profitable but it is not something that should be tried by those that do not have a lot of experience when they are trading, it is very easy to think that you are going to make money when the price is going down but for what I have seen most of the traders that tried that strategy did not become successful because it is very difficult to predict when the price is going to go down.
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January 30, 2019, 11:20:50 PM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Having good technical analysis skill can help us to earn high returns even the market is falling down.  We can know when is the right time to enter and exit in trading if we can analyze and understand the chart.
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January 31, 2019, 01:13:28 AM
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Yes only by shorting we can earn profit from Bitcoin drop,  and that actually more risky trading because of leverage  but we can minimize  the risk by use low leverage and use stop loss.  But for now that the price already oversold is not good idea to short because Bitcoin has more potential  to rise.

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January 31, 2019, 01:57:24 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




If you plan on shorting anything, consider taking a financial markets class and an economics class online. Otherwise it's a total shot in the dark. Even among the top financial players there's winners and losers.
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January 31, 2019, 02:03:45 AM
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Yes only by shorting we can earn profit from Bitcoin drop,  and that actually more risky trading because of leverage  but we can minimize  the risk by use low leverage and use stop loss.  But for now that the price already oversold is not good idea to short because Bitcoin has more potential  to rise.
A tough job for anyone who risk their money in here. It is hard to be profitable at this time and it hardly to analyze the market flows that's everything's seems to be unpredictable one.
The situations makes it favor for just buying and not the way you sell at after.  Hold them and patiently wait for it's hype,  that's the only way i could see to make profits.



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January 31, 2019, 08:31:23 AM
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There's no point if the price of bitcoin get dropping out ofcourse one thing to do is to hold only and wait until the price getting up again because you can't make profit if the price not increasing.
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January 31, 2019, 08:38:35 AM
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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.



Yes, shorting is a good solution in all market conditions. Even though the price of BTC is low, it still fluctuates every week. We only need to know how to stop-loss exactly, we will be more secure in trading to make money.
so you need to learn more about stop-loss art on youtube.

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January 31, 2019, 10:16:25 AM
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when the bitcoin price drops as it is now, the best decision is to buy bitcoin as soon as possible and then hold it back until bitcoin rises again and makes a profit.
but if you don't have the money to buy bitcoin, I suggest that you follow a number of bounties with the aim of making a profit.

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when the bitcoin price drops as it is now, the best decision is to buy bitcoin as soon as possible and then hold it back until bitcoin rises again and makes a profit.
but if you don't have the money to buy bitcoin, I suggest that you follow a number of bounties with the aim of making a profit.
Buying when the price dropping it will indeed be practiced by most people who still have high enthusiasm about bitcoin. But I think if you are a trader, then it seems like when the market goes up or down you can still take advantage of the opportunities that exist to generate profits from any fluctuations that happen.
I think, looking for an income from bounties can be done whenever you want and do not have to wait when there is a dropping in the crypto market.

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when the bitcoin price drops as it is now, the best decision is to buy bitcoin as soon as possible and then hold it back until bitcoin rises again and makes a profit.
but if you don't have the money to buy bitcoin, I suggest that you follow a number of bounties with the aim of making a profit.
Buying when the price dropping it will indeed be practiced by most people who still have high enthusiasm about bitcoin. But I think if you are a trader, then it seems like when the market goes up or down you can still take advantage of the opportunities that exist to generate profits from any fluctuations that happen.
I think, looking for an income from bounties can be done whenever you want and do not have to wait when there is a dropping in the crypto market.
You can generate profits whatever market brings you if you are aware and already gained skills predicting or analyzing the next trend, shorting can be done with high hope that your assessment will bring you to success, but it's also accompanied by risk as there's still unpredicted factors that affects
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January 31, 2019, 10:43:50 AM
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to get money when the price of bitcoin like this there are many ways such as following the campaign bounty. because from there I can get money even though it is not big income from the bounty but in that way I can get income

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.

Even I crypto you can short your bet while your technical analysis says that the market will bearish. Bitmex is one awesome platform that I like to short my bets. You can both long and short your bets. Its easy to use.
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February 03, 2019, 04:55:22 PM
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There's no point if the price of bitcoin get dropping out ofcourse one thing to do is to hold only and wait until the price getting up again because you can't make profit if the price not increasing.
You can make money from the price dropping as well. Its not similar to the trading people traditionally do. Its basically a type of gambling to predict the next market movement direction known in a more fancy way called Margin Trading. The biggest thing happening in last year was the emergence of bitcoin futures and people became crazy putting their money in this market of margin trading. Its very risky and not similar to spot trading that we generally do.

I would not suggest people to do Margin trading rather hold your coins for future bullrun if you are willing to exit.

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The only thing i know profitable when the market is declined is the buy low sell high type of trading. Sorry but im quite confused about how you make profit while the market is consecutively dropping. Isnt that means more negative on your part? All we want is a green market and that is all we know we can make profit.

actually, while the market for bitcoin was down it doesn't means more negative in the mind of others. Yes it is true when the market is green there is a big chances for us to earn. Moreover, even the market was declined now we can still get profit in it, by simply buying those coins which are cheap by now then hold em. Because for sure it will get increase in the future just be patience for awhile.
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I prefer to do trading in stocks markets than doing margin trading in Bitcoin because the risk in spot trading of stocks market is less than margin trading in Bitcoin. I dont want take too much risk in margin trading because more possible lossing money.

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Make enough observation with Bitcoin's price. Then if you think the price is acceptable to buy a crypto then go for it. Just make sure that if you will sell it you already gained profits from the money you invested. Do not panic if the price went down. Just wait for the right time to sell it.

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I heard in stocks, this is called shorting.  But i read if you short, you could lose a huge amount of money.  Could you do this with bitcoin?  Example my thoughts were hey its the holidays, so most likely ppl will withdraw money and thus btc drops.  So i figure around now, btc price would drop.




Although it is a very difficult process to earn money during the period of decline, which we call the bear period, it is also known as a very lucrative method. On the other hand, earning a profit during the period of bear is quite a success, because it is not something that everyone can do to earn money during the fall period. While individuals who have no experience during the ascension period can also gain profit, only successful investors benefit during the decline period. In short, I would like to mention 'how to make a profit' in this period. More details is up to you now, you can not develop yourself with ready information.
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March 03, 2019, 10:47:53 AM
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never forget a fundamental difference between SHORT and LONG:
- with a LONG you have 100% potential loss and infinite potential gain
- with a SHORT you have 100% potential loss and a potential profit of 99.99%

it seems a banality to which only a few reflect. This does not want to discourage the short rather than encourage a long, but it's a detail that few people pay attention to.
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