Safe Bounty hunters

[iqlimasyadiqa]

First of all, I would like to welcome the new management team. You have picked a good and burning issue of fraud projects scamming many investors and bounty hunters alike. I think authorities should put in place strict regulations to stop scam projects. Besides, we, bounty hunters, bounty managers should also join hands in this regard. Likewise, bitcointalk management team may also help.

This issue will continue to grow and expand. when we all still don't have the ability to analyze properly, we cannot avoid scam projects. our ability and intelligence will make ourselves able to avoid scam projects. our ability will provide knowledge whether a project will be successful or not.

[Samboo]

It is very hard to find which project is scam or not until the last moment. I do not about Desico. But the bottom line is that we all should come together against fake projects. We should also be extra cautious about scam projects. Although the market is seeing increasing number of scammers and scammers are walking free, no authorities seem to be concerned. Strong action should be taken and regulations be in place.

[asepsetiawan1990]

if we do not selectively choose bounty, the risk is high trapped by a scammer. Indeed warning scammers rarely occur at the beginning of time. we should study the bounty from various aspects. There is nothing wrong if we feel suspicious first. This will make us more careful

[tondenga2122]

This is forum, people have freedom to sharing his/her opinion.
There is no limitation on the forum, we can't force a new member on the forum doing a KYC.
Somehow, be a smart bounty hunters. If you want to avoid scam bounty, check the detailed information on the project first before joining on the bounty campaign. That's how you can minimalize the risk being scammed.

[GREENch]

Bounty hunters do not like to undergo the KYC procedure for various reasons. Some are afraid to give their personal data in unscrupulous hands, because they are not sure of the honesty of the developers project. Others are against because they use multi accounts.

[Shatterlean22]

Well this forum wants to stay been a 'forum' there is nothing bitcointalk forum can do about scam bounties but my own point of view is it might worth it if this forum start fishing out scammers themselves too

[babysweetTiger0401]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

In the first place, scammers cannot be called in this word if they don't have a victim, isn't right?
It is also true that most of the community in bitcointalk forum they hate KYC, but sometimes due to its part of the
rules and policy in the campaign, they do nothing about it but to follow its rules. So, the better things We need to do
is be careful in investing ico or joining the bounty campaign to avoid scammer and scam project as well.

[zeze18]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

Actually most of them are not scam at first.
But, the raised too few money to run their project, so.. they ran away..
So, the best thing to join bounty is find the project that already have and running the product

[coinsycrip09]

Bounty hunters do not like to undergo the KYC procedure for various reasons. Some are afraid to give their personal data in unscrupulous hands, because they are not sure of the honesty of the developers project. Others are against because they use multi accounts.

indeed some people are afraid to do KYC for the reasons you mentioned. but i personally do not mind KYC and i will continue to follow the procedure provided that the project is truly real and has a responsible team.

indeed it is very difficult to find a good and responsible project we have to work hard for it. don't let us miss a golden opportunity to benefit from our work as a hunter bounty just because we complain about this and that and ultimately regret it. find out first, if you believe the project is good then follow the procedure. if not, leave it and don't regret it.

[Sithara007]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

These things will never work. As you can see, the bounty sub-section has only one moderator, who is also over-seeing a few other sub-forums. Is it viable for him to manually check each one of these thousands of bounties? I would say that we need to take the precautions ourselves. For example, we can only consider campaigns from well respected bounty managers such as yahoo62278. Or we can limit the participation to those projects which are already listed on various crypto-exchanges.

[stefany101]

I think it will not gonna happen. Choosing a good bounty program where bounty hunters can participate and work for their bests to gain rewards is a duty of a bounty hunter, not by the moderators of this forum. They have no idea if the published bounties here in forum is legit or not, so it is important for a bounty hunter to choose a legit bounties before joining. 

[fapar]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

These things will never work. As you can see, the bounty sub-section has only one moderator, who is also over-seeing a few other sub-forums. Is it viable for him to manually check each one of these thousands of bounties? I would say that we need to take the precautions ourselves. For example, we can only consider campaigns from well respected bounty managers such as yahoo62278. Or we can limit the participation to those projects which are already listed on various crypto-exchanges.

Another forum participants are looking for fraud/scam with ICO and publish their investigations in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0. And DT2 give the red trust ANN topic starters and bounty managers after such information.

[innocentone]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

Joining bounties is risky from the start. You are doing works for free and you are not guaranteed that you are being paid. That's the nature of bounty hunting at all and I think that bitcointalk moderators are not entitled to protect the bounty hunters from scammers because bounty hunters from the start are not safe.

[Marry Finch]

Of course, the forum administration may take certain steps to ensure that there are fewer fraudulent ICO projects on the forum. However, on the other hand, this will already resemble censorship, since there may be a subjective approach. Therefore, it may be better if there is no regulation by the administration of the forum. In addition, bounty hunters themselves must learn to distinguish between fraudulent ICO projects and non-fraudulent ones.
Regarding the so-called fraud using multiple accounts, I immediately want to say that this is not a fraud, but simply a violation of the rules of this forum. To eliminate this violation, KYC verification cannot be used categorically. The KYC check should be applied only for the purpose for which it is intended - the prevention of money laundering and the fight against the financing of terrorism. For other purposes, it cannot be used because it violates our privacy rights.

[Desscount]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

what you say is part of what we feel as a bounty hunter. but this is a risk for all bounty hunters who take part in the campaign
because it will be very difficult to ensure that the project is really good or not a scam, this regulation will be greatly needed to become a bridge between investors, communities and ico.
and for KYC this is also still a discussion that does not find a solution

[panukurap]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

I am sure there are many members here who always provide education for bounty hunters and investors to be more careful in every ico project including those who hunt bounties.
so this is a complicated problem to make it safer without risk. surely none of the bounty hunters and investors want to be involved in scam projects.
so I think this will really need cooperation and provide education about projects that are really bad and lead to scams

[ternio-shit]

Ternio scammed its airdrop/bountry/affiliate partners


They  have started an airdrop and asked everyone to create an stellar   wallet, preferable on LOBSTR as they have some kind of partnership with   LOBSTR team. They have told everyone for the 4-5 months that airdrop   tokens will be sent to LOBSTR account after 6 months of ICO end. ICO   ended on 15th june so distribution was supposed to happen around mid   december. But then they changed there decision at the beginning of   december and asked people to create an account for there new product   "Blockcard" and airdrops will be sent there only. They didn't send any   email to the participants of airdrop stating the same, only informed it   on telegram group. Since airdrop was going to happen after 6 months,   many people were not active on telegram and waiting to get it on there   LOBSTR wallet. But when they didn't received any token in dec 2018, they   asked about it on telegram and got a surprise that nothing can be   happen now. They started banning the people who ask about missing the   airdrop. Founders keep those unclaimed airdrop tokens for themselves.

They  also have a referral program running and for each referral they're   giving 50 TERN tokens. The rule was simple that people need to register   on there website and that's it. No KYC required, no ICO investment   needed, no condition of joining there telegram group either. After 10   months of referral program being ended, when people asked about referral   tokens, one of the founder "Ian Kane" said that all the referrals had   to go through KYC. I asked them personally many a times that why  someone  will do KYC after 10 months of initial registration, they've no  reply  of that. When many people started saying it's not fair and they  have to  come up with other solution, they started banning the people.  Everybody  knows that more than 90% of people are not going to do KYC  after  10months and mos probable they would have forget about  registering on  ternio. So founders are keeping all these tokens for  themselves.
Here's the link to the referral stats - http://stats.ternio.io   which has been taken down now so no one can see there referral count.   But few people have around 2k referrals and some have 1k+ referrals.   While the site was up I calculated that around 6M referral tokens was   supposed to be distributed. Now they are keeping 90% of them for   themselves.

when you ask them , they will ban you.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Another forum participants are looking for fraud/scam with ICO and publish their investigations in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0. And DT2 give the red trust ANN topic starters and bounty managers after such information.

This is also not going to work. The scammers usually don't have account here in BT. So usually they hire someone to post the ANN thread, or create a junior level account. Even if the DT members tag the account, it is not going to affect them. They will just hire someone else or create another account. That's why despite all these investigations, we are still having scams.

[Averim]

I hope Bitcointalk will start caring about its people ,there should be new moderators that can fish out bad projects on here to avoid wasting time of bounty hunters ,and about KYC ive come to think of it as many bounty hunters don't like KYC I'm sure if Bitcointalk is the one asking for KYC so as to limit frauds and multiple accounts bounty hunters won't complain, we will follow the rules ,but first 'SAFE US FROM BAD SCAMMY PROJECTS' ,no matter how wise we investigate a project they end up been scam ,scammers are getting wiser as well.looook at desico for example Can anyone tell me if he/she knew Desico is a scam from day one? I guess not

Bitcointalk is only a forum, they are not involved in any project, all what they do is to moderate the forum and they take care of following the rules by everybody. To access safe projects the best ones are with the bounty in escrow.

[burky156]

I am totally agree with you on this, there should be a solution for bounty campaign. Nearly all bounties ends unsuccesfuly in last 1 year, all bounty hunters wasted their times for nothing.. I am sure that the ICO scamming situations and too many participations killed the bounty business.. That was just like a dream in couple of years ago but now it's dying..