Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17

[wndsnb]

Just checked my S17 Dec. batch preorder and the price listed dropped. Originally was $2107, now listed at $1681. Seems premature with still over a month before they are supposed to ship, but looking like $426 credit per S17 coming as of now...

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[philipma1957]

maybe they will ship it out sooner than  the 1st of dec.

[prpz]

Question about these coupons if anyone could clarify
I ordered 3x s17e on launch days one in September 9, 10.”, and 11
They were priced with launch prices I believe 2784 2683 2683 plus shipping
They don’t have a current price as you can’t buy it to have it ship out in 7 days like the s17 pro 50t
They have a batch for December and January that are just over 2000 I believe 2083 for the earlier one
My units will ship out this week next week and week after
Should I expect any coupon, am I suppose to get one ? If not is there any chance they throw one in ?
Let’s say one ships out this week what price is used and how is it calculated ?
Any input appreciated !

[philipma1957]

Question about these coupons if anyone could clarify
I ordered 3x s17e on launch days one in September 9, 10.”, and 11
They were priced with launch prices I believe 2784 2683 2683 plus shipping
They don’t have a current price as you can’t buy it to have it ship out in 7 days like the s17 pro 50t
They have a batch for December and January that are just over 2000 I believe 2083 for the earlier one
My units will ship out this week next week and week after
Should I expect any coupon, am I suppose to get one ? If not is there any chance they throw one in ?
Let’s say one ships out this week what price is used and how is it calculated ?
Any input appreciated !

The issuance of coupons is pretty much a wtf thing.   You simply never know what they will do.

[mgoz]

I'm not sure how they even keep track of which products/orders were listed with a "Product Reference Price" and should receive a coupon for price difference after delivery if price is lower. The T17 I ordered had the notes about reference and actual price when ordered, but when I checked the product link on my invoice now, the notes about pricing and coupon are all gone so they modified them sometime after I ordered. This was a 38TH/s version which is no longer available and 40TH/s version was launched a couple days after I ordered at $150 cheaper. I'm expecting at least a $150 coupon, but the way they do things leaves them plenty of room to manipulate pricing to not issue coupons.

[philipma1957]

look they sent emails promising coupons of 57 to me and buysolar.

they they would be issued.  back in december.

they simply dont give a fuck.

it doesnt matter that i spent over 200000 with them.
it doesnt matter that even though most of us dont like them.

they know no one is selling a piece of gear as efficient as the s17pro.

so the simply act like they own the place.

which pretty much they do.

[taserz]

Do you have any that don't expire in January? If so I might be interested. I realized using the overclocking and downvolting firmware I was talking to you about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208500.0

Is doing pretty well I should try to snag a few more machines and I am hoping for a price drop on the machines and buying coupons is wise.

[xxxABJxxx]

Bitmain has problems to ship Antminer T17+ 64TH/s.

They want to give me an T17+ 61TH/s???

Has anybody the same shipping problems?

[philipma1957]

Bitmain has problems to ship Antminer T17+ 64TH/s.

They want to give me an T17+ 61TH/s???

Has anybody the same shipping problems?

I have one on order I will check.

If they downgrade you go to the refund/credit/coupon thread.  Make a report on the thread and open a ticket on bitmain to get a BTC refund of 60/64 about 5% seems fair.

[minefarmbuy]

Haven't had any downgrades here, what does that communication look like if you're willing/able to share?

[philipma1957]

Haven't had any downgrades here, what does that communication look like if you're willing/able to share?

I have no notice of a downgrade.  Or a shipment.


I will say this :

 the t17e   came late 9-10 days
 the t17e   was rated 50th and 2750 watts   it does 53th and 3350 watts in a cool spot 

so 55watts a th is more like 63watts a th.


So the idea that the t17+  is fucked up a bit does not surprise me based on my 2 t17e units

I do not recommend buying  the t17e
Once I get my t17+

 I will review it and see how it compares to the t17e

[VRobb]

Just got shipping notice for my S17 so it went out on time, if waiting months for an over(pre)paid item is considered 'on time'...! 

[taserz]

Just got shipping notice for my S17 so it went out on time, if waiting months for an over(pre)paid item is considered 'on time'...! 

But I mean hey you got some baller coupons no?

[mikeywith]

But I mean hey you got some baller coupons no?

Most coupons people got have a 10% rule and expire on Jan 2020 , it's really nothing but a "Sorry not sorry, we screwed you" from Bitmain, these coupons now go for 30% of face value, or this is what most people are trying to sell them for, although I have been getting the same offers from the same people for weeks now, so it's unlikely that people are actually paying that much ,which means if you wanted to sell them you need to go much lower , maybe 20% or so.

Bitmain dropped gear prices today, AGAIN !! S9 finally goes for under 100$ for the first time in history.

[minefarmbuy]

I think price drop was at least a day or so ago and most coupons I see have no expiration.

Edit: no expiration as in date, if BTC market reachs a certain level some do expire as well.

[favebook]

I think price drop was at least a day or so ago and most coupons I see have no expiration.

Edit: no expiration as in date, if BTC market reachs a certain level some do expire as well.

Actually, there are a lot of coupons that expire in the end of January. There are some coupons that do not expire until price jumps and there are some coupons that do not expire ever (no time limit, no price limit). I am holding onto one of those and thinking if I should even use it this or next year or just save it for later time.

[philipma1957]

Bitmain has problems to ship Antminer T17+ 64TH/s.

They want to give me an T17+ 61TH/s???

Has anybody the same shipping problems?

I have one on order I will check.

If they downgrade you go to the refund/credit/coupon thread.  Make a report on the thread and open a ticket on bitmain to get a BTC refund of 60/64 about 5% seems fair.

Yeah  they sent me an email  at 4am  I woke at 8 am and answered it which is 8pm friday on their time which means no action until monday.

I won"t do what they want.

Give me some time to show letter and my reply

Here's a reminder of what your ticket was about:
   
Carol (Bitmain)
Dec 13, 15:48 CST

Dear Carol,

We’re terribly sorry to inform you that stock of T17+ 64T in your order ID 0012019102xxxxxx is insufficient.

Now we trying to solve the issue by offering product update from T17+ 64T to T17+ 58T. If you agree with the solution, please kindly help reply to this email for confirmation as soon as possible, and then we will send you a special link to place a new T17+ 58T order immediately. Please also take note that USD shall be chosen as the payment mode of your new T17+ order.

Additionally, the price of one unit 58T T17+, 11-20，Dec. batch is $1203. The price difference of T17+ 64T and T17+ 58T be remained as balance under your account, for the specific usage rule of balance.
Please feel free to contact us, we will guide you accordingly.

Regards,
Bitmain

my reply

Re: philipma1957, you’re invited to let us know how we can do better【BITMAIN - Ticket ID 59xxxxx 】
Dec 13 at 8:11 AM

PHILIP Axxxxxx <philipaxxxxxx @ yahoo . com>
To: Bitmain <support+id5xxxxx @ bitmainhelp . zendesk.com>
Cc: Philip Axxxxxx <philipaxxxxxx @ yahoo . com>

Dear Carol ,

If I accept the 58th T17+ unit at 1203 usd + 127 shipping for a cost of 1330
I had paid you 1355 and used a 375 coupon this comes to:

1730 old order
1330 new order
400 dollar balance on my account

I paid you in paypal not USD. I do not have the ability to pay you in USD. I do not have a bank that sends USD to China.
So I am not sure your idea works for me.

I really wish you had contacted me sooner than 4am Eastern standard time I am answering you at 8AM eastern standard time. Which is 8pm your time So most likely you won't get to this as your work day has ended.

So to confirm what you want to do is send me a 58th machine and give me a credit changing my payment to USD. The answer is no this not acceptable.

This is a paypal order a USD order does not offer me the protection of a paypal order. So I am not altering the deal. Since I lose my paypal rights if I do. I see it this way I paid you 1354.95 cash and used a 375 coupon that is 1729.95 usd. If you can not give me a t17+ with proper speed of 64th and want to send a 58th machine I would accept the machine and a 400 dollar refund to my paypal order.
This way the order stays as paypal which offers me six months protection. I also get a proper discount of 400 as a direct refund to my paypal order.

Your company is running a business my mining is served by your company. I have paid you well over 150,000 for gear since 2013. I also am an honest person and give your company fair reviews. So I ask you to simply refund this paypal order 400 usd and send the 58th machine.

Please get back to me and let me know if you can do this.

Best regards,

Philip

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@philipma1957

After 2 emails, I wrote him a two-liner and told him I wanted my money back.

He said that i should forget the emails and they send me the 64 TH device.

The 64TH was shipped one working day later =).

Do not give up.

[philipma1957]

They are yet to reply.  I will email again today.

[Searing]

They are yet to reply.  I will email again today.

As an aside? With your PayPal option and the further addition of days if you did so via credit card, I assume you still have time to drop the hammer on Bitmain for switch bait of product at the last minute? Curious, would serve them right, but unsure if that is a legit option with coupons and the other manipulations that bitmain may stall or have you go through. But again, I'd think a PayPal rep and for sure an Amex rep on your information would fall all over themselves, if you wish such, to get refunded.

Anyway, if you pull the trigger on such or not, is my assumption correct and this is a drastic backup action you may have to use on this? thanks (again on the bleachers/ watching the show/eating junk food)