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Author Topic: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17  (Read 9045 times)
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April 08, 2019, 10:21:26 PM
Last edit: April 09, 2019, 12:30:18 AM by frodocooper
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OVER THE YEARS  more then one 13th s9  did better then a 14th s9

I have had about  1000  bitmain units from s1 to s15  and they can vary spec a lot.

If you are buying  more then 5 pieces.  I suggest not over spending on the highest specced  ones.

Yeah if they gave you a day in the factory to cherry pick  the 5 best why not.  But I have seen higher ranked not that good.

I had 1 s7 that was unreal  it clocked  like 50mhz better then any of my others and it was super good on power like 235 watts a th  which was super good for that unit.  It also never tossed hw's 100 days at a time without one.

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April 09, 2019, 06:08:08 AM
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Hmm.........2k + for unit.......... who's willing to bite the bullets first?
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April 09, 2019, 06:13:06 AM
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Hmm.........2k + for unit.......... who's willing to bite the bullets first?

I got mine ordered.

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April 09, 2019, 06:24:26 AM
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I got 3 of the 50 TH Pros.  While more than I was hoping for still worth it IMO.
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April 09, 2019, 06:31:56 AM
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Hmm.........2k + for unit.......... who's willing to bite the bullets first?

I was ready to pull the trigger on up to 10 PRO's @ up to $1700 each, but $2360? That's $3000 per machine including the tariff to nets > $7 a day at 8 cent power @ current difficulty & BTC price.

Even if I still had the March coupons it would have been a pass. Should have gone to bed.

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April 09, 2019, 06:35:11 AM
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Can Almost guarantee that they will be 1.5k by end of this month. I don't think they can make 500$ in a month......unless $BTC goes up....which means that its better to just hold BTC. Idk man, the math isn't adding up right now.
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April 09, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
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Same, better wait till 1.5k or less...
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April 09, 2019, 09:13:27 AM
Last edit: April 09, 2019, 09:32:39 AM by pierobj
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My S15s will ROI faster than buying any of the new S17 at current prices... Better to wait couple months to buy in my opinion too. Also, many few units were available for sale, so difficulty should not jump heavily.
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April 09, 2019, 10:32:24 AM
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I slept through the sale.  They were not for sale at 12:50 am and sold out by 6:32 am EST times.
 
The prices  were too high glad I missed it.
2043 to 2366 not counting shipping
I paid 2048 for the 72th m10  that includes shipping.

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April 09, 2019, 12:17:51 PM
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Well that didn't last long... Bitmain as usual.



But i don't see any "T17"s, where did you get that info from? I assume "Pro" 53 is the most efficient one?

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April 09, 2019, 12:48:07 PM
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yep - I missed the sale as well... I went to bed at 1230 am Eastern and they were still showing as "TBD" to me, I got up at 630 am and they were sold out... but yes with 2k+ price tags without coupons and with the tariff - it would be a super long ROI

I almost think it would be better if these manufacturers would stop producing products for a while so that people who bought machines could reach ROI before the new ones come out. I think I will just keep an eye out for more T15's because at 1/3rd the price, they are much more likely to make ROI than the S17 ---- though I would love to replace all 20 existing miners with 10 S17's as it would replace my 289 TH/s with 620 TH/s and while it would also replace my approx. 22,585 watts of power usage with approx. 27,900 watts of power usage - the more than double hashrate would compensate for that. Right now, my profit is just around $850 per month - the change over would put my profit around $2,650 per month (based on current difficulty and BTC price of course) to do that upgrade would cost over $25k pushing ROI to almost 1 year at current difficulty/BTC price/profit margin. But that profit will decrease rather soon, especially as now difficulty is going to climb when these hit the market. So, it is hard to justify not upgrading as my existing monthly profit may disappear but to maintain a monthly profit means to push the ROI too far out....

I just need free electricity and then profit will always be easy lol

Not sure how many were in batch 1, but they sold out fast.



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April 09, 2019, 01:08:26 PM
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I forgot all about this. Not that I was grabbing one just wanted to see the pricing.

Under the noted I think there is a batch 2 on the 10th.


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April 09, 2019, 01:34:55 PM
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I did not get in on this round.  Not enough ROI right now, it will steadily grow, as will the quality of the miner in the next round.  I will be in on the third round; probably about July.

What will be interesting is the Difficulty over the next few months...Very, very interesting.

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April 09, 2019, 01:48:27 PM
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I did not get in on this round.  Not enough ROI right now, it will steadily grow, as will the quality of the miner in the next round.  I will be in on the third round; probably about July.

What will be interesting is the Difficulty over the next few months...Very, very interesting.

Well if you are running 2 s9's  at 14th each  you have    28th at 2600 watts.

one of these is about 50th and 2200 watts  yeah It varies.

Cost is a joke all are over 2600  shipped to usa.

For now  my thoughts are  they don't have a lot of them  and we can see if that is true by watching hashrate rise or not.

we are flat right now:

Latest Block:   570900  (3 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   100.0328%  (373 / 372.88 expected, 0.12 ahead)...

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April 09, 2019, 02:01:05 PM
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I have 4 on order.  That being said, I would not recommend this buy.  I buy through a contact in china, long story short I essentially traded old gear and got these for half price due to money received for the old gear.  If I had to pay close to $3000 or more for each one of these, no way in hell I would take that risk.  As said above the m20s was under $2100 shipped.
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April 09, 2019, 03:50:07 PM
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Sold out in 14 minutes. I grab one to resale it. Price is high but with the current bullish-bearing market they may ROI sooner that expected.
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April 09, 2019, 04:03:53 PM
Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:03:38 PM by frodocooper
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Sold out in 14 minutes. I grab one to resale it. Price is high but with the current bullish-bearing market they may ROI sooner that expected.

how much do you mark up for resale?

I am thinking the ROI will be longer - but that will more then likely depend on how many were sold - as soon as they all hit the network, if there are a lot of them - I am thinking difficulty will climb and thus reduce the profitability but then again if the profits drop too much, we may have farms using S9's that shut down and thus lower difficulty back down.

I will wait till they offer some coupons and lower the price, at current price plus tariff, too high in my opinion.

edit: as a note, I see them up for sale again for April 20 - 30 shipping date.

second edit: now the S17 normal 56 TH/s is sold out for second batch.



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April 09, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
Last edit: April 09, 2019, 11:04:03 PM by frodocooper
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To cover the import tax and shipping to purchaser I have to push the price pass $3K. I'm betting on the BTC price trend staying bullish to create appeal.
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April 09, 2019, 05:09:43 PM
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Take a look at the BCH Hashrate.

I think Bitmain uses the undelivered S17's to mine BCH at this moment.
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April 09, 2019, 05:18:32 PM
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I got one last night before they sold out in about 5 minutes. I was debating on paying BTC and waiting for Blokforge to list to use credit, but once I saw them all gone I pulled the trigger and figured I could resale for more if I wanted to. Wished the pricing was closer to what Blokforge listed. Hoping they have a relatively limited supply. Today they've been going out of stock and adding them back for over an hour now. They are probably keeping majority of them since they are already offering plans on Bitdeer starting end of April.
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