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April 03, 2019, 09:24:59 AM
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Hello,

My original account matrix zion has been banned.

Now I know 98% of bans are made due to plagiarism. Problem is I don't recall having been in a sig campaign and I'm here mainly to sell my products soooo... Chances of me having plagiarised anythings are really small.

I know bans are nearly never lifted so it's more out of curiosity, but any mod knows why I've been banned? If it's plagiarism well it was (normally?) not done knowing it was plagiarism.

Unless I've been less intelligent a few years ago. That's possible.

Anyway I'm curious and would like to plead not guilty!  Kiss

Thanks in advance.

Edit: it could have been for spam as I'm here to sell my products. If that's the case well my fault but I have to admit I would have loved a small warning telling me my marketing was too agressive (like too many threads or updates or whatever). I think I haven't abused anything but maybe I was too dumb to see it.
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April 03, 2019, 09:44:32 AM
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I know bans are nearly never lifted so it's more out of curiosity, but any mod knows why I've been banned?
And I know that almost no one reads the rules.... so out of curiosity, first look here. * Start at points 25 and 33.

If there is no way, create one. t.me/phenomteam
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April 03, 2019, 09:49:05 AM
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Besides the fact you are selling an illegal service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071780.msg48038147#msg48038147

Most of the accounts are banned for plagiarism if you copy pasted in the past without the source link and someone noticed it.

For you question about the spam, we got serial troll spammer here not banned yet so probably is not for it.

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April 03, 2019, 10:01:15 AM
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... Chances of me having plagiarised anythings are really small.

You copied posts from other forum members.

Copy:
I don't think last drop was manipulation, just someone who was holding a good amount of cann dumped his or her coins. Perhaps it was because the lack of consistent news by D9 and the false hype around 4/20.
Original:
I don't think last drop was manipulation, just someone who was holding a good ammount of cann dumped his or her coins. Perhaps it was because the lack of consistent news by D9 and the false hype around 4/20.

Copy:
got it installed and running.
However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.

Original:
So, I pulled Valuecoin-qt, got it installed and running.

However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.


When I go in to the debug console and type "getpeerinfo" I'm getting nothing back.

Did I miss a valuecoin.conf file creation where I need to specify peers?



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.
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April 03, 2019, 12:10:42 PM
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... Chances of me having plagiarised anythings are really small.

You copied posts from other forum members.



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got it installed and running.
However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.

Original:
So, I pulled Valuecoin-qt, got it installed and running.

However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.


When I go in to the debug console and type "getpeerinfo" I'm getting nothing back.

Did I miss a valuecoin.conf file creation where I need to specify peers?



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.


Don't be ridiculous, this is something that anyone could say. I hardly think this is anything to do with it. The first one is without doubt a copy but if that is not financially motivated then since this person who was copy pasting for financially motivated reasons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524  was allowed back then anyone who was not doing it for money should be allowed back for another chance.

I would say wait until snichmoon appears to demonstrate the most damning evidence before building a case.

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April 03, 2019, 12:35:47 PM
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... Chances of me having plagiarised anythings are really small.

You copied posts from other forum members.

Copy:
I don't think last drop was manipulation, just someone who was holding a good amount of cann dumped his or her coins. Perhaps it was because the lack of consistent news by D9 and the false hype around 4/20.
Original:
I don't think last drop was manipulation, just someone who was holding a good ammount of cann dumped his or her coins. Perhaps it was because the lack of consistent news by D9 and the false hype around 4/20.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamned
Well, I've done something stupid. I guess we got the ban reason.
That's a damn shame I've done this. I'm angry at my 4 years ago self  Angry

Thanks for finding this. I can lock the topic I think no? That it is old or not money motivated isn't an excuse if I remember correctly.

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got it installed and running.
However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.

Original:
So, I pulled Valuecoin-qt, got it installed and running.

However, I don't see any active connections to the network at all.


When I go in to the debug console and type "getpeerinfo" I'm getting nothing back.

Did I miss a valuecoin.conf file creation where I need to specify peers?



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.
Hmm this one seems false positive to me. Not the same thread, not the same typo, not the whole message... I think I just happened to have written something identical to somebody else.


But one offense is enough for definitive ban if I remember correctly?

No chance of appeal right?

Thanks for the archeological work!
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April 03, 2019, 12:42:36 PM
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Don't be ridiculous, this is something that anyone could say. I hardly think this is anything to do with it. The first one is without doubt a copy but if that is not financially motivated then since this person who was copy pasting for financially motivated reasons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524  was allowed back then anyone who was not doing it for money should be allowed back for another chance.

I would say wait until snichmoon appears to demonstrate the most damning evidence before building a case.

Thanks for the support but I guess it's still a rule infraction.

That it was a small one isn't going to help me knowing the policy on the forum :p
Unless Mods are in a very good day.
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April 03, 2019, 12:54:50 PM
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Don't be ridiculous, this is something that anyone could say. I hardly think this is anything to do with it. The first one is without doubt a copy but if that is not financially motivated then since this person who was copy pasting for financially motivated reasons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524  was allowed back then anyone who was not doing it for money should be allowed back for another chance.

I would say wait until snichmoon appears to demonstrate the most damning evidence before building a case.

Thanks for the support but I guess it's still a rule infraction.

That it was a small one isn't going to help me knowing the policy on the forum :p
Unless Mods are in a very good day.


The last example is NOT a rule infraction the first one is a rule infraction but if you were not wearing a sig i don't see it as terminal. If there are lots more then that will likely be no hope.


This person https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524  was allowed back with a sig ban so it is your call whether or not to push for the same. They were busted for doing it for financial reasons so there is hope for anyone who did not do it for financial reasons. It is your call whether to push to keep your account or not. If it was a legend account it would 100% be worth it under any circumstances but this is your choice.

I see this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524 as a precedent so if you are were not even wearing a sig at the time it seems your's was NOT as serious.




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April 03, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
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Plagiarism is plagiarism no matter it is intended for financials or not and anyone who plagiarised will receive its consequences. Your plagiarised post must be old cause it's posted back in 2015 but the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ was posted a year earlier that's why you still committed a violation as it is stated in the rules and regulations of the forum.

Looking at your recent posts, I understand that some of your posts are intended for business but seems like you're now posting spam posts compared to your older posts. What if you were banned for spamming or something like that? Not because of plagiarism.
Sorry buddy but seems like this is the end of the line.

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April 03, 2019, 01:31:02 PM
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~ Hmm this one seems false positive to me. Not the same thread, not the same typo, not the whole message... I think I just happened to have written something identical to somebody else.
Maybe it's a coincidence, but your message has a line break at the same place and begins with a small letter.

You have also copypasted posts from Reddit without citing the source.

Copy:
It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.
Original:
It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.

Copy:
Such a senseless tragedy... What absurd reason can any human conjure up to calmly descend into the nearest mountain with 150 innocent souls on board without so much as a verbal justification or sigh of relief?
Original:
Such a senseless tragedy... What absurd reason can any human conjure up to calmly descend into the nearest mountain with 150 innocent souls on board without so much as a verbal justification or sigh of relief?



But one offense is enough for definitive ban if I remember correctly?

There is an admin's comment on your question.

<...> Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.



<...> Your plagiarised post must be old cause it's posted back in 2015 but the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ was posted a year earlier that's why you still committed a violation as it is stated in the rules and regulations of the forum. <...>
It should be noted that there was no rule about plagiarism on Bitcointalk until 2016, according to web-archive.
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April 03, 2019, 01:33:43 PM
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Don't be ridiculous, this is something that anyone could say. I hardly think this is anything to do with it. The first one is without doubt a copy but if that is not financially motivated then since this person who was copy pasting for financially motivated reasons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=904524  was allowed back then anyone who was not doing it for money should be allowed back for another chance.

I would say wait until snichmoon appears to demonstrate the most damning evidence before building a case.

Thanks for the support but I guess it's still a rule infraction.

That it was a small one isn't going to help me knowing the policy on the forum :p
Unless Mods are in a very good day.
Mods can't unban the accounts only theymos can so you can appeal if you think that you can be a valuable asset to this community but its unlikely to be accepted.

Even though it is not financially motivated it could be done to increase your post count and activity which even hate by theymos as well to say an excuse.

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April 03, 2019, 01:49:07 PM
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Mods can't unban the accounts only theymos can <...>

Administrator Cyrus and Global moderators (Mr. Big, hilariousandco and mprep) are also able to unban profiles.

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I unbanned it. Please make sure you leave a note and source at the top or bottom that it has been published elsewhere in future.

I unbanned the account. It does look like it could be a mistake and since no others can be found I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I unbanned it.
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