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Has it ever occurred to anyone that the so-called fake trades could be caused by shitty project owners themselves? And not the exchanges? I mean it makes more sense for shitty projects to boost their shitcoin's volume rather than exchanges trying to boost their volumes. I'm not saying the later isn't happening, I am just saying that most of fake trades could be caused by not the exchanges.
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April 20, 2019, 09:44:30 AM |
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that the so-called fake trades could be caused by shitty project owners themselves? And not the exchanges? I mean it makes more sense for shitty projects to boost their shitcoin's volume rather than exchanges trying to boost their volumes. I'm not saying the later isn't happening, I am just saying that most of fake trades could be caused by not the exchanges I guess that shouldn't count as fake volume At least, not in the sense it is meant in this topic. Here we talk about exchanges increasing their trading volumes in order to look bigger than they really are (and so get higher in the pecking order). In this respect, shitty projects boosting their shitcoin's volume should not be considered fake volume simply because they are paying the same trading commissions as everyone else and thus these trades are as legit as any other trades. This is what I think
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It seems to me that almost all exchanges publish fake volumes. In any case, this was before the scandal, which received much publicity. I would also like to see a link to the publication where exactly these 10 exchanges are indicated. In a crypto environment, there is not yet a completely independent source of information whose data could be trusted. Too much cheating around. Although, of course, the exchanges you named have already earned an excellent reputation, and the fact that they are all in the top 20 is a remarkable confirmation of user confidence.
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April 20, 2019, 12:57:43 PM |
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Yes definitely in somewhere you need to take the serious tenses and make your life better than the previous time and it would been happening in some type of investment only and we need to be careful while taking a decision and while taking the profit also this will make you more profitable at the end if you are invested now.
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April 20, 2019, 04:54:50 PM |
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I do not think that there is anyway at least one honest cryptocurrency exchange, and I don’t advise anyone to keep funds on the exchanges all the time. Even any of the 10 exchanges listed by you can be hacked at any time or end up with fraud at a certain moment.
In this point I agree with you IF you Don't have key you don't have coinIt seems like this "if you are not holding the private key then, the coins does not belong to you". We can't blame people who doubted now with some exchanges, even though they are look likes legit now. Because recently we have crypto exchanges that victims of hacking and exit scam by the owner. I did not say in generalized but that was the point of view now from crypto trader. However, trading is still profitable. As a trader, you wont really have any choice but to deal that kind of risk on where putting up funds into exchangers which you do know that you dont possess the keys of its wallet. We are already fully aware on that one thats the corresponding risk been tied up but well you wouldnt mind it too much when you do plan to trade on the first place. About on the 10 platforms mentioned, im not really against to it yet these are the most top tier ones but some of them do have some reports of fake volumes so it isnt really that accurate.
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April 20, 2019, 05:50:39 PM |
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Yeah, credible and used are different things. These places could be considered credible because they have been running for a while with a lot of volume and they have managed to build what crypto exchange world is what it is today.
Poloniex and bittrex and some of the others may not have the power they used to have but they were the ones that helped us get here and that is why I honestly believe that these top 10 exchanges are truly what made bitcoin so big. There are of course other smaller ones but they did not have as big of an impact as some of the others had and that is why I feel like "credible" and "popular" are different, yeah there are some bigger popular ones for sure but most of them either have fake volume or they are not trusted even with high volumes.
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April 20, 2019, 06:14:21 PM |
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that the so-called fake trades could be caused by shitty project owners themselves? And not the exchanges? I mean it makes more sense for shitty projects to boost their shitcoin's volume rather than exchanges trying to boost their volumes. I'm not saying the later isn't happening, I am just saying that most of fake trades could be caused by not the exchanges.
Maybe. But you mine a fresh coin, the normal way is to check MiningPoolStats for the pool and exchange. The normal user goes with the largest pool and exchange with the highest volume. And most of these exchanges have faked volume to get some fees.
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April 20, 2019, 06:53:01 PM |
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Counterfeit digital trading volumes played by the platforms have become widespread and noticeable from the former and hardly disguises himself has become clear to all TIE reported its independent analysis of the differences in volumes reported on the FX platform and the trading rate was counterfeit 75% according to TIE
I will show you a list according to some data and reports and according to the actual notifications of the volume of trading of 10 platforms were only honest
BitFinex .. BitFlyer .. BitStamp .. Bittrex .. Coinbase Pro .. Gemini .. itBit .. Kraken .. Poloniex .. Binance
You should know that trading volume is independent and has no effect on the market size of a particular currency However, excessive reports of the daily volume of trading may adversely affect the perception of the market It is noteworthy that because of these counterfeits made the platforms able to climb the rankings in the list of platforms according to the volume through that process and gain more fame The counterfeit data reported on stock exchanges is also a key factor behind the reluctance of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to approve the ETFs based on Bitquin or even alternative digital currencies. [/size] That true. These are no doubt are best and trust worthy platform for trading. But I think you forget to include cryptopia and yobit in this list. Even etherdelta also provide good services and variety of tokens for trading. So it all depends upon traders requirement to choose a platform that provides him versatility and ease as per his trading requirement. An app would also play vital role in providing ease to retail trader.
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April 20, 2019, 07:42:24 PM |
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Theres quite a few reputable exchanges these days luckily (we have come far from the starting days lol). But it is really hard for teh exchanges to get all the proper licenses and SEC approvals, or even just approvals like Bittrex just demonstrated.
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April 20, 2019, 07:45:42 PM |
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It seems like this "if you are not holding the private key then, the coins does not belong to you". We can't blame people who doubted now with some exchanges, even though they are look likes legit now. Because recently we have crypto exchanges that victims of hacking and exit scam by the owner. I did not say in generalized but that was the point of view now from crypto trader. However, trading is still profitable.
As a trader, you wont really have any choice but to deal that kind of risk on where putting up funds into exchangers which you do know that you dont possess the keys of its wallet I fully agree with this point If you want to trade actively, you have to keep a stash of coins in an exchange account. But there are ways to minimize this risk even if it is next to impossible to get rid of it altogether (other than using decentralized exchanges which come with their own can of worms and a host of other problems) For example, on exchanges that allow margin trading (think Bitfinex here), you can open margin positions being only partially covered by your exchange balance with the bulk of your wealth still sitting in your desktop wallet. Thereby you decrease risks associated with keeping your money on exchange (as you don't have to keep all your coins there)
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April 20, 2019, 11:00:48 PM |
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On any platform may be an artificial volume, we'll never know. There is no 100 percent fair exchange, so dont say it and dont believe that it really is.
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April 20, 2019, 11:20:13 PM |
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Counterfeit digital trading volumes played by the platforms have become widespread and noticeable from the former and hardly disguises himself has become clear to all TIE reported its independent analysis of the differences in volumes reported on the FX platform and the trading rate was counterfeit 75% according to TIE
I will show you a list according to some data and reports and according to the actual notifications of the volume of trading of 10 platforms were only honest
BitFinex .. BitFlyer .. BitStamp .. Bittrex .. Coinbase Pro .. Gemini .. itBit .. Kraken .. Poloniex .. Binance
You should know that trading volume is independent and has no effect on the market size of a particular currency However, excessive reports of the daily volume of trading may adversely affect the perception of the market It is noteworthy that because of these counterfeits made the platforms able to climb the rankings in the list of platforms according to the volume through that process and gain more fame The counterfeit data reported on stock exchanges is also a key factor behind the reluctance of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to approve the ETFs based on Bitquin or even alternative digital currencies. [/size] For the Southeast Asia region we can add Indodax, its good volume with IDR pair
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April 21, 2019, 07:30:19 AM |
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They became popular because of trust rating and not just hype. But there is also thid called advertisement. There are other trading platforms there which are trusted but aint popular. Should have looked unto that too.
Binance is one on the top list but yet a lot of problems are being sought to it. They are just good with their customer service unlike others in your list. One is poloniex which is like a no answer with queries.
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April 21, 2019, 10:58:56 AM |
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Coinbase is credible? Were they not the same guys who allowed their internal staff to trade BCH about an hour before the official announcement was made? And then the price just jumped like silly on Coinbase, far beyond what the actual price was? How does that seem like credible action? And Poloniex has almost no volume anyway, so if it is credible but no depth for orders, what is the point?
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There are other trading platforms there which are trusted but aint popular. Should have looked unto that too.
Exactly! Best examples are KuCoin, Cryptopia, CEX.io, and still counting. No doubt that they are legit and got positive feedback from its users as well. But you know what, I can't blame those users who prefer to use one of the exchanges on OP's list because they are the most popular among others. Of course they tend to pick nothing only but the best, right? Well, there is also nothing wrong if all of us could have options so for me it is still fine to use not so popular exchanges as long as their credibility is proven and tested.
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April 21, 2019, 01:41:00 PM |
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I have just replied to a thread recently too where I saw that, it is only 10 exchanges that have true trading volume, this is bad and it is not sending good signal out there, it only keep showing government and sec that it is a system that can easily be manipulated and that is why they are clamoring for its regulation.
If they succeed in regulating cryptocurrency because of these attitudes, then the objective of cryptocurrency n making our transactions anonymous has been defeated, and I am sure satoshi will also not be happy about this.
Since, we already know exchanges with true volumes, I think it will be best if we pay more attention on them and support them for being transparent in their dealings.
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April 21, 2019, 06:06:41 PM |
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that the so-called fake trades could be caused by shitty project owners themselves? And not the exchanges? I mean it makes more sense for shitty projects to boost their shitcoin's volume rather than exchanges trying to boost their volumes. I'm not saying the later isn't happening, I am just saying that most of fake trades could be caused by not the exchanges.
Well, I really don’t give a shit about them, I never even knew that such exist until I started getting the hint via this forum, because all my trades and transaction has been through verified exchanges that are trust worthy, maybe because I have been using Binance all along, that is why I did not really get to know much about these activities. Now that we know, for those who have made the mistakes of trading or exchanging on those shitty exchanges still have the opportunity to reverse their actions and stick with the 10 that the OP mentioned here, if they really want to get the best out of their trades.
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Within your list I think it is is poloniex which I have used before for a lot of times. It is their deposit amount which I loved. Whenever I get freebies from airdrops I can exchange it to Ethereum and then send that low amount to poloniex in exchange for bitcoin. Sad thing is there are times it takes long for the transaction to be processed. Now I am Binanced. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 22, 2019, 02:38:03 AM |
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I'm trading in Binance so I'm safe because I'm with a credible site. Look, most exchanges have decent volume are credible because their credibility is important to continue attracting customers and continue making money. They are like in the business of trust, if they do better, protect the customers information, they will be patronize.
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