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August 13, 2024, 09:19:10 PM
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Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.

You did well for accepting your mistake and also for your apology, is not that using the word cryptocurrency is bad but as long as this thread is concerned using the word cryptocurrency instead of using Bitcoin can be very problematic and misleading expecially to new member that may want to venture into Bitcoin investment.
There are other thread in this forum where you can comfortably talk about cryptocurrency not here because what we are discussing here is Bitcoin investment, cryptocurrency is a just a general word where other coin such as shitcoins is included so newbies hearing about cryptocurrency might think is shitcoins which is never reliable to invest on and they might end up investing in it and regret at last, so been specific about the coin you are talking about is very important if it is Bitcoin then it is Bitcoin if it is shitcoins then it is shitcoins.
Also when even you are quoting some one try and cheek if you quoted rightly because looking to your quote you did not do it in a proper way.

Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.

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August 13, 2024, 09:38:23 PM
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
I don't know the thought of other investors here but for me the DCA strategy is the best because if you are custom using the DCA strategy you are at advantage because there are times when you can still use the lump sum strategy when you an unexpected money comes your way you can also accumulate when there is dip this one's may come ones a while but with the DCA strategy you can still accumulate more Bitcoin inrespective of the price level either weekly or monthly as long as your discretionary income is intact with a long term motive from 4-10 and above because with DCA strategy you are always steady in the BTC market.
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August 13, 2024, 09:53:17 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
Apparently, Dollar Cost Averaging is the best strategy for me and you to invest in bitcoin, there are solid reason why DCA is currently the best for you. there is no way buying the dips would be the best for you at this point because you don't know for sure when there will be dips although at this moment we are still in the dips but why I say it's not best for you now is because you have to wait for some time which is not certain to buy but DCA gives you the opportunity to buy instant and not wait for any reason. Futhermore, buying the dips strategy always gives you a discount but the inconvenience in buying the dips matters too DCA gives you around opportunity which includes time to settle all other necessary things outside investment.

There are more reason I would prefer or reference you to DCA strategy but I would say less because you will find out the rest here as time goes on if you listen carefully to JayJuanGee's clarifications.

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August 13, 2024, 10:24:40 PM
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Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.

You did well for accepting your mistake and also for your apology, is not that using the word cryptocurrency is bad but as long as this thread is concerned using the word cryptocurrency instead of using Bitcoin can be very problematic and misleading expecially to new member that may want to venture into Bitcoin investment.
There are other thread in this forum where you can comfortably talk about cryptocurrency not here because what we are discussing here is Bitcoin investment, cryptocurrency is a just a general word where other coin such as shitcoins is included so newbies hearing about cryptocurrency might think is shitcoins which is never reliable to invest on and they might end up investing in it and regret at last, so been specific about the coin you are talking about is very important if it is Bitcoin then it is Bitcoin if it is shitcoins then it is shitcoins.
Also when even you are quoting some one try and cheek if you quoted rightly because looking to your quote you did not do it in a proper way.

Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.
Yeah I decided to be consistent in my Bitcoin accumulation journey and that is what I have been doing, I'm buying Bitcoin using the DCA strategy and I'm very much comfortable with it, I know using the DCA strategy I need to hold for a very long time in other to have enough Bitcoin.
This long holding and consistent accumulation has discouraged a lot of people who wanted to go into Bitcoin investment especially those who can't buy with huge amount at a time.
There's a saying that says patience and consistency are the real future wealth, those who waited for 10 years till date didn't lose anything, there patience and consistency paid off and for me my consistency and patience will also pay off, Bitcoin is one of the best investment and I'm taking it seriously and I believe I will succeed because I'm dedicated to it.
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.

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August 13, 2024, 11:15:03 PM
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You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.

He should have a plan and asking about whether DCA is the best strategy for him to use as a beginner is surely the best for him. In order for him to have focus and consistency in something, he needs to have a strategy that’ll make him not regret his decision into investing in bitcoin. Both long and new investors in bitcoin have enjoyed the DCA strategy and should not sway away from it. The market is very controversial and the volatility nature of it can be disturbing for newbies. Sticking to the DCA strategy will be of help and they should work on their psychology and not be panicked when there’s a downturn in the market but use it more often to their advantage instead of leaving the market so soon due to panic of losing their funds.

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August 14, 2024, 04:52:35 AM
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
Apparently, Dollar Cost Averaging is the best strategy for me and you to invest in bitcoin, there are solid reason why DCA is currently the best for you. there is no way buying the dips would be the best for you at this point because you don't know for sure when there will be dips although at this moment we are still in the dips but why I say it's not best for you now is because you have to wait for some time which is not certain to buy but DCA gives you the opportunity to buy instant and not wait for any reason. Futhermore, buying the dips strategy always gives you a discount but the inconvenience in buying the dips matters too DCA gives you around opportunity which includes time to settle all other necessary things outside investment.

There are more reason I would prefer or reference you to DCA strategy but I would say less because you will find out the rest here as time goes on if you listen carefully to JayJuanGee's clarifications.

Of course, guys have to figure out what they are going to do within the three main methods, which is DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and each of the techniques has its advantages and disadvantages depending on where a person might be in terms of how long he has been in bitcoin and what his goals might be.  Even in the very beginning a guy might start out with a lump sum amount that he could invest into bitcoin right away or he could separate the lump sum into the three buying categories of DCA, lump sum (buying right away) and buying on dip.  Some folks do not even have any lump sum amount they can start out with, and yet DCA can work very well for them to be able to buy bitcoin as their cash comes in and/or their expenses are calculated so they know how much extra they have which could result in their being able to buy BTC every single week., or however they structure their DCA purchase times  based on their own cashflow situation.

Sure a brand new person to bitcoin might not know whether he wants to be aggressive or whimpy in his investment style, and so if he makes sure that he is getting his finances in order int terms of back up funds, he can tailor the level of his aggressiveness in terms of his own finances and psychology.. which should include his consideration of his individual 9 factors.

By the way, DCA is meant to apply to something like bitcoin based on a level of confidence that any of us should be able to figure out that it will likely increase in price, even thought the price is likely to be volatile along the way, and I doubt that there is any shitcoin that can inspire such confidence, even though people do buy into shitcoins, yet more they are things to get in and out of rather than something to rely on in the long term, even though people also conclude them to be investments - and that is their choice, which seems kind of dumb and/or short sighted to allow any of the shitcoins to be more than 10% of your bitcoin holding, so hopefully you keep them to less than 10% if you cannot resist those kinds of temptations to gamble (and/or trade).

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August 14, 2024, 05:01:34 AM
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
I don't know the thought of other investors here but for me the DCA strategy is the best because if you are custom using the DCA strategy you are at advantage because there are times when you can still use the lump sum strategy when you an unexpected money comes your way you can also accumulate when there is dip this one's may come ones a while but with the DCA strategy you can still accumulate more Bitcoin inrespective of the price level either weekly or monthly as long as your discretionary income is intact with a long term motive from 4-10 and above because with DCA strategy you are always steady in the BTC market.
As you think DCA investment strategy from your side is the most effective and correct investment strategy, so also from my side I think DCA investment strategy is the most effective investment strategy. Not just me but everyone who invests thinks the DCA investment strategy is an effective and a sound investment strategy in their own way. 

DCA investment strategy has made our investment approach much simpler. Those who have invested before and those who are investing now are themselves realizing the difference between investing in this strategy and the previous strategy. An investor can now start investing with a minimum amount of money but no one thought of doing this before. Previously, investors used to pool a certain amount of money and then invest it, but now instead of keeping a certain amount of money, investors invest that fixed amount continuously.

I got a complete understanding of this strategy through this section because I knew roughly about the DCA investment strategy earlier but got a detailed understanding of it in this section.

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August 14, 2024, 05:24:37 AM
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You should follow the Bitcoin market constantly, because if you are not constantly reflecting on the market, you will not be able to focus on investing properly. Especially when investing in DCA method, market research must be done, especially as regular investment will attract newcomers more. A new investor can participate in repeated investments to grow his portfolio only through the DCA strategy.

With this DCA strategy, both new and old investors can succeed in investing in Bitcoin by saving on the purchase price. A person who has a good amount of money to invest can surely grow his portfolio by investing in this Bitcoin.
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Bitcoin is above $60,000 again. Many of us almost got very excited for the possible opportunity to purchase Bitcoin below $50,000 again. Haha.

But sometimes we probably should start thinking that in 10 or 20 years, many people will look at the price of Bitcoin and they will be very sick in their stomachs because they will be asking themselves how they have missed all the price appreciation of an asset that was designed to surge because the Central Banks around the world have that never-ending policy to print money.

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You should follow the Bitcoin market constantly, because if you are not constantly reflecting on the market, you will not be able to focus on investing properly. Especially when investing in DCA method, market research must be done, especially as regular investment will attract newcomers more. A new investor can participate in repeated investments to grow his portfolio only through the DCA strategy.

One don't really need to be checking bitcoin market constantly, is like a waste of time especially as an longer-term investor. Instead one should focus on how to build is bitcoin stash in the best possible way he or she can . Because only those who are in for short-term profit are normally bothered about market price, we as an long-term investor is how to meet our accumulation goal and hold.

With this DCA strategy, both new and old investors can succeed in investing in Bitcoin by saving on the purchase price. A person who has a good amount of money to invest can surely grow his portfolio by investing in this Bitcoin.

That's right , with DCAing and consistency one will be able to build a nice bitcoin Stashes for he or herself. And having good amount of money as already serve as an big advantages when it comes to Bitcoin accumulation . It will literally help to speed things up , but still those who are average can still grow their portfolio with consistency in their accumulation.

Bitcoin is above $60,000 again. Many of us almost got very excited for the possible opportunity to purchase Bitcoin below $50,000 again. Haha.

But sometimes we probably should start thinking that in 10 or 20 years, many people will look at the price of Bitcoin and they will be very sick in their stomachs because they will be asking themselves how they have missed all the price appreciation of an asset that was designed to surge because the Central Banks around the world have that never-ending policy to print money.

 Cheesy that's damn right, even folks that should theirs 3 years ago, are already sick in their stomach now because of bitcoin recent surge that took place 2023 . So same thing going to happen as time goes on and alot of people we keep regretting especially those that should theirs too early, and those that missout due to the habit of procastinating. So in order not to be among such is better to start now and start taken action, by accumulating more bitcoin now

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The extent at which most people talk about always buying at dip can be somehow discouraging to most people in terms of changing there focus from regular accumulation to buy only at dip because they always sounds very convincing as if buying at dip is what guarantee there increment of there investment portfolio, sometimes I feel that most of those who always talk about buying only the dip has little understanding about investment if not they would have only seen that dip is just a temporary opportunity brought through the Bitcoin price drops, so at that moment those who have extra funds will increase there investment or buy at once and move on there DCA instead of just depending on the dip.
It is important to buy the dip if you want to be profitable.
although I am not a part of this conversation but I would like to add a little even as JJG may have replied you. the way you sounded @SatoPrincess look somewhat like buying the dip is the most profitable method in the whole investment strategy neglecting the DCA and also lump sum method. to me its a bit problematic, if you check from the statement of Roseline492, he made an exquisitely nice point, very clear and precise about how people talks about buying the dip and making it look more  important than regular DCA, and yes that can be misleeding because it makes everything looks like a quick way of making money from bitcoin, presumably trading. despite whatsoever we shouldn't forget so soon that bitcoin investment is a long term investment and not a short term investment which should not be neglected. and also reffearing buying the dip as the most profitable while DCA strategy to be done as trading is misleading.
Just because you’re using DCA strategy doesn’t mean you should ignore basics of trading and buy bitcoin at ATH. Because if you buy bitcoin at the top, you will be losing money when the market corrects itself. For example you buy bitcoin at 70k, how long do you think you can hodl the bitcoins before the price breaks 70k zone? DCA strategy is good for newbies who are just starting out but for those who have the knowledge of trading, they apply DCA in a more efficient manner.
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The elephant in the room problem is that sometimes the BTC price does not dip, and another thing sometimes there is way too much wasted time strategizing about whether the BTC price might or might not dip
hahahah its really quit funny, the elephant talk got me laughing. though it's quit funny how something is obvious and nobody talks about it, as the elephant in the room story entails. but in this context we can say there are times people thinks that their narrative is quit different from other people's approach yet they all end up being confused, and the sake of this confusion is what led to buying weekly DCA, buying the dip + lump sum, to solve some emotional and confusion problem, yet they chose the hardway.  surely there are time people expect bitcoin to dip for them to accumulate more but that doesn't mean they will not continue with other approaches. bitcoin is volatile so it's better sometimes people just follow the right approach than figuring out a personal strategy that end up keeping such person in a confused manner because bitcoin might not continue to dip to a person favour, it's such an unrealistic expectancy.

and there might not even be that BIG of a difference between buying right away or buying regularly and fucking around trying to figure out if there might be a dip or not and if there is going to be a dip, then how much of a dip there might be...or not and does it really make that much of a difference, especially when it cannot even be known anyhow whether there will be a dip or not, even when there are strong feelings that there might be a dip, that does not always end up happening, so then time is wasted  that could be spent in more productive ways.. perhaps even ways to figure out how to earn more money or to cut some expenses in order that more bitcoin can be bought
Yeah it's totally a waste of time trying to figure out what shouldn't have been though of at the first place. yea it better to use that time to figure out what to do, probably being productive in some kind of ways, like acquiring more skill that one can be financially productive to increase our portfolio and shortens our time duration of investment , maybe an investing that would have lasted for 20years to accumulate 3 btc may have been reduced to 10 -15years with same 3btc so time is too important to be wrongly used.

 

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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.
Lump sum method of investment is good but I feel its too wild for a beginner especially the one that hasn't really understood the market that well and the reason why I say this is because that new investor can easily be affected whenever he sees the price dip and especially when he used large sum of money to buy because he will be scared of the funds dropping so my advice for any new investor should be DCA method so atleast you will just have to do with continuity and with time get to understand although both methods are still effective but I guess it depends on the investor himself to fully understand how the Bitcoin market works.

And again you thinking about other people investment shows that you clearly need to do some study about investment on a general note, before ever starting an investment your own goal is what you should focus on and for Bitcoin investment what you need to do is just learn the basics and ofcourse have the general patience that Bitcoin investment won't make you rich overnight as it's a gradual process and patience and commitment is the key.
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Bitcoin is above $60,000 again. Many of us almost got very excited for the possible opportunity to purchase Bitcoin below $50,000 again. Haha.

But sometimes we probably should start thinking that in 10 or 20 years, many people will look at the price of Bitcoin and they will be very sick in their stomachs because they will be asking themselves how they have missed all the price appreciation of an asset that was designed to surge because the Central Banks around the world have that never-ending policy to print money.


In other words, it might not make too much difference if you bought bitcoin around $50k, $60k or $70k or maybe even $100k.. it is all going to seem cheap..

Just like today if I say that I bought at $500, $600, $700 or $1k, it all seems low.. and any of those prices work out quite well,  even though twice as many bitcoin could have had been bought at $500 as compared with $1k.. but there is ONLY so much that any of us can do in regards to our cashflow, and in the whole scheme of things we  cannot really know where the BTC price is going to go.. so in some sense, the just keep buying practices end up working themselves out in the long run, even though sometimes in the short run, we might question our strategies, yet there are a lot of folks who ended up accumulating way more bitcoin (even though they paid more for them),

so then in the end, the having of more bitcoin ended up being the main thing that makes a difference.. since would you rather have:

1) 5 bitcoin with an average price of $600  (total cost of $3,000) (maybe someone who made a few BTC purchases between 2014 and 2016 and was always proud of having a low cost per BTC),

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2) 30 bitcoin with an average cost of $2k (total cost of $60k)
(maybe someone with a fairly tight budget who started DCA buying bitcoin in 2014 with $10-$50 weekly, and continuing to buy bitcoin with DCA and over the years.. so investing with DCA over 10 years and having times of increasing to $100 to $200 weekly as his income went up and his cashflow management abilities got better).. so he got way more bitcoin for each dollar in the earliest of his BTC accumulating days.. but since his budget was never really that great - especially, in the earlier days, he had to always scramble to buy as many Bitcoin as he could afford within his discretionary income, and he continued to accumulate BTC during each week no matter the BTC price depending on his own cashflow that improved over the years but was never really great... and then now he is starting to feel that he has enough BTC ). ..

Frequently, in bitcoin's history, the consistent, persistent and ongoing accumulator of bitcoin ends up spending quite a bit more money (fiat) to buy his bitcoin and might even have multiple or magnitudes more costs  than the whimpy investor, but then in the end, the persistent BTC accumulator ends up with way more bitcoin, too... even though sometimes along the way, it might have hurt financially and psychologically.. and even he spent a decent amount of time in the negative or not really in profits and even worrying about if some kind of a BTC price bounce was going to come at some point.. or if maybe he was sometimes thinking that had put too much in the bitcoin.. .. but then in the above example.. there is some kind of reality that sometimes there might be a need to spend 20x more than another similarly situated person in order to really show commitment to investing into bitcoin, but then end up having way more options because of the persistence int he stacking of the sats (of course, there are needs to preserve the bitcoin holdings too and to learn about good ways to guard your bitcoin holdings in order to not lose them).

Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.
Lump sum method of investment is good but I feel its too wild for a beginner especially the one that hasn't really understood the market that well and the reason why I say this is because that new investor can easily be affected whenever he sees the price dip and especially when he used large sum of money to buy because he will be scared of the funds dropping so my advice for any new investor should be DCA method so atleast you will just have to do with continuity and with time get to understand although both methods are still effective but I guess it depends on the investor himself to fully understand how the Bitcoin market works.

And again you thinking about other people investment shows that you clearly need to do some study about investment on a general note, before ever starting an investment your own goal is what you should focus on and for Bitcoin investment what you need to do is just learn the basics and ofcourse have the general patience that Bitcoin investment won't make you rich overnight as it's a gradual process and patience and commitment is the key.

A newbie investor is lucky if he has a lump sum available to him so that he can decide what to do.

Let's say that the newbie has right around $6.8k that he can invest right now, and he knows that he has right around $100 per week that he can invest into the future.. such as the next 12 months... so that is a total of $12,000 for the year... with $6.8k available right away.

It is good to have the option to figure out how to invest that money, even though not all of it is available right away.

If the guy ONLY has the income and he does not have the extra $6.8k lump sum, then he has fewer options, and DCA seems to be amongst the best of choices.

Extra options can come at anytime during the year, and there are some people who know that they end up getting extra cashflows during the year, such as bonuses, and so if there are systems in place already about buying bitcoin, then there can be a fairly easier decision to invest the extra money when it comes in rather than not having a plan and perhaps just using the extra money for consumption... Having the option, and understanding the various ways to categorize money for BTC investing into DCA, buying on dips and/or lump sum also gives options as well as knowing about various ways to have back up funds for emergency funds, reserves and float.. Any new money (especially if it is discretionary - which means after expenses have been accounted for) can be plugged into any of those categories.



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August 14, 2024, 08:55:41 AM
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You should follow the Bitcoin market constantly, because if you are not constantly reflecting on the market, you will not be able to focus on investing properly. Especially when investing in DCA method, market research must be done, especially as regular investment will attract newcomers more. A new investor can participate in repeated investments to grow his portfolio only through the DCA strategy.

Is actually very important for you to note that multiple investment at once when you are not financially balanced does not grow your portfolio but instead it will push you on the edge were you could be struggling on your investment and secondly I don't know how you were able to gather the theory that we should follow the Bitcoin market regularly, however if I may ask, of what benefits will it be for you if you are closely following the Bitcoin market?, actually you should know that watching the Bitcoin market dose not bring anything  positive on your Bitcoin investment but instead it can affect you in a way you will not expect, perhaps you have another motive of saying that but the little I understand about it is that there is no need in following the market.

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Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.

It is indeed appropriate to do something like that because when more and more people are aware of building their own steps by buying Bitcoin and accumulating their portfolio from now on, of course in the future there will be more people who will do something like this in Bitcoin. Because people who continue to build their portfolio with Bitcoin and also no longer remember the past mistakes they have made, of course their own focus will also be more optimal so that there will never be a feeling of boredom in buying Bitcoin every week with the abilities they have.

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Bitcoin is above $60,000 again. Many of us almost got very excited for the possible opportunity to purchase Bitcoin below $50,000 again. Haha.

But sometimes we probably should start thinking that in 10 or 20 years, many people will look at the price of Bitcoin and they will be very sick in their stomachs because they will be asking themselves how they have missed all the price appreciation of an asset that was designed to surge because the Central Banks around the world have that never-ending policy to print money.

In other words, it might not make too much difference if you bought bitcoin around $50k, $60k or $70k or maybe even $100k.. it is all going to seem cheap..


I believe not. If Bitcoin does surge to over a seven digit valuation, then each additional unit of Bitcoin that a user purchased at discounts would truly matter.

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Just like today if I say that I bought at $500, $600, $700 or $1k, it all seems low.. and any of those prices work out quite well,  even though twice as many bitcoin could have had been bought at $500 as compared with $1k.. but there is ONLY so much that any of us can do in regards to our cashflow, and in the whole scheme of things we  cannot really know where the BTC price is going to go.. so in some sense, the just keep buying practices end up working themselves out in the long run, even though sometimes in the short run, we might question our strategies, yet there are a lot of folks who ended up accumulating way more bitcoin (even though they paid more for them),

so then in the end, the having of more bitcoin ended up being the main thing that makes a difference.. since would you rather have:

1) 5 bitcoin with an average price of $600  (total cost of $3,000) (maybe someone who made a few BTC purchases between 2014 and 2016 and was always proud of having a low cost per BTC),

or

2) 30 bitcoin with an average cost of $2k (total cost of $60k) (maybe someone with a fairly tight budget who started DCA buying bitcoin in 2014 with $10-$50 weekly, and continuing to buy bitcoin with DCA and over the years.. so investing with DCA over 10 years and having times of increasing to $100 to $200 weekly as his income went up and his cashflow management abilities got better).. so he got way more bitcoin for each dollar in the earliest of his BTC accumulating days.. but since his budget was never really that great - especially, in the earlier days, he had to always scramble to buy as many Bitcoin as he could afford within his discretionary income, and he continued to accumulate BTC during each week no matter the BTC price depending on his own cashflow that improved over the years but was never really great... and then now he is starting to feel that he has enough BTC ). ..

Frequently, in bitcoin's history, the consistent, persistent and ongoing accumulator of bitcoin ends up spending quite a bit more money (fiat) to buy his bitcoin and might even have multiple or magnitudes more costs  than the whimpy investor, but then in the end, the persistent BTC accumulator ends up with way more bitcoin, too... even though sometimes along the way, it might have hurt financially and psychologically.. and even he spent a decent amount of time in the negative or not really in profits and even worrying about if some kind of a BTC price bounce was going to come at some point.. or if maybe he was sometimes thinking that had put too much in the bitcoin.. .. but then in the above example.. there is some kind of reality that sometimes there might be a need to spend 20x more than another similarly situated person in order to really show commitment to investing into bitcoin, but then end up having way more options because of the persistence int he stacking of the sats (of course, there are needs to preserve the bitcoin holdings too and to learn about good ways to guard your bitcoin holdings in order to not lose them).


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But why not 30 Bitcoins with an average price of $600.00, which is the actual point of the argument for looking for discounts? I believe that would definitely give more superior returns than if the average purchasing price is $2000, no?

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August 14, 2024, 11:27:02 AM
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Bitcoin is above $60,000 again. Many of us almost got very excited for the possible opportunity to purchase Bitcoin below $50,000 again. Haha.

But sometimes we probably should start thinking that in 10 or 20 years, many people will look at the price of Bitcoin and they will be very sick in their stomachs because they will be asking themselves how they have missed all the price appreciation of an asset that was designed to surge because the Central Banks around the world have that never-ending policy to print money.

In other words, it might not make too much difference if you bought bitcoin around $50k, $60k or $70k or maybe even $100k.. it is all going to seem cheap..


I believe not. If Bitcoin does surge to over a seven digit valuation, then each additional unit of Bitcoin that a user purchased at discounts would truly matter.
Even though every price that one buys Bitcoin along ones phase of accumilation matters and goes on to reflect on the extent one profit if Bitcoin didn't go above 2 times to 3 times of the prices one buys his Bitcoin, if in the long run Bitcoin gets to say $300k to $500k, it wouldn't matter if you bought at $50k, $60k or even $100k At your accumilation phase. I'm sure that to some, $300k to $500k might seems unrealistic the same way $70k actually looked to earlier holders but if it does happen, buying at These range of prices we consider DIP or not DIP at this point wouldn't really matter at the time.

I understand the angle you're coming from and certainly, every opportunity that one has to buy at the DIP should be made use of judiciously but if it becomes an issue that one will get tempted to conclude that $60k is too much and wait to buy at $50k which might or might not happen as one expects, it's going to serve as a deterant to ones ability to doing DCA as planned out.
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August 14, 2024, 11:34:31 AM
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Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.

It is indeed appropriate to do something like that because when more and more people are aware of building their own steps by buying Bitcoin and accumulating their portfolio from now on, of course in the future there will be more people who will do something like this in Bitcoin. Because people who continue to build their portfolio with Bitcoin and also no longer remember the past mistakes they have made, of course their own focus will also be more optimal so that there will never be a feeling of boredom in buying Bitcoin every week with the abilities they have.
An investor can gain a lot of experience from past investment mistakes which gives him the mindset to hold for the long term. Although you said they don't remember past mistakes, I think they should learn from past mistakes and register a focus on increasing stashing over time so that they don't repeat past mistakes. One should have the mentality to grow their portfolio with Bitcoin and continue to accumulate it for the long term.By making investment decisions with the DCA strategy you should target to continue accumulating bitcoin for the long term to have a decent bitcoin portfolio.

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August 14, 2024, 12:51:03 PM
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Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
The DCA strategy is the most adopted strategy when it comes to investing in bitcoin, and it has proven to be effective because it has helped so many investors accumulate the quantity of bitcoin they want. Yes, the DCA strategy is the best strategy to use when accumulating bitcoin, and both old and new investors can use the DCA strategy to accumulate bitcoin. One of the good things about the DCA strategy is that it allows newbies or new investors in bitcoin who already have money to start accumulating bitcoin right away without waiting for any bitcoin dip to happen before they can accumulate bitcoin. The DCA strategy helps to control investors' emotions, and they can consistently accumulate bitcoin without hurting their feelings. For instance, if there is a dip in bitcoin, the DCA strategy will allow you to buy the dip, and if bitcoin is making an upward trend, you can still accumulate bitcoin with the DCA strategy, which gives you an upper hand over those investors who are buying bitcoin with a lump sum strategy or those investors waiting to buy bitcoin when there's a dip in bitcoin.

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