YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

[mdayonliner]

Good morning DarkStar_. Just woke up and I have time to exchange words. Sorry about the last night it was getting very late.

@mdayonliner I'm offering on option for current ChipMixer participants to either stay with the current pay scheme (0.00075 BTC/post, max 50) or switch to your proposed scheme that will cause a lot of people to switch (0.0003 BTC/post, max 140). That way we don't need to worry about YoBit doing anything, people don't have to promote a shady exchange. There are stricter terms, but at least it exists

(on a semi-unrelated point, I am wearing the ChipMixer signature for free)

This is what you are saying (correct me if I am wrong)...

- The current pay rate still exists for ChipMixer
- Additional option: Members can switch to a new ChipMixer rule which will pay for 140 posts a week at a rate of 0.0003 BTC/post

Let me be honest here. ChipMixer already built a good reputation here, thanks to you and their management. If indeed there is an option then for a candidate, here are several things to consider before picking a choice.

# Am I a heavy poster?
# If I am a heavy poster and easily comes up with making over 140+ posts per week then will I be okay with getting 0.00075/post for 50 or 0.0003/post for upto 140? The 2nd one gives me higher amount in total but pay rate is less than half per post compare to the first one.

# If I am not a heavy poster who can not even make 50 posts per week then shifting to the 2nd option is non-sense. Those users will not consider the 2nd option.

The bet I was talking is in between two different specific campaigns. ChipMixer and Yobit.
ChipMixer will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week
YoBit will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week.

It's no brainier that people will be more attracted to YoBit campaign simply because of the easier terms.  Now, about the post quality it really depends on the individual.
Me for example: I could post 5 or more posts or may be more than that instead constructing a post here which actually brings some value to the forum. Mind it posting this time consuming post is not paying me more, in fact if I would make 5 posts using the same time then I could get 5x the payment. So yeah, it comes down to the individual when it comes to post quality.

It's very simple that we can not bet in the two different campaign option because of the limitations I have explained in one of my last post.

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edit: if we do bet, I'm not asking for a lot. Maybe something like 0.01BTC donated to the winner's choice of charity? I'm not rich either 

Really!
I thought you are filthy rich but looks like your situation is 10 times down than me 

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AdolfinWolf mate you surely have beef against me and you are using it to gain something for sure. You know for sure that I am an easy leverage for you.

So is this user just acting like a moderator all of a sudden for the heck of it  ?

Just because I left posting in meta and reputation does not mean that I do not read the dramas there.

By the way, I see you are trying very hard. Yobit Scam Accusation megathread. "Normal" modus operandi or shady practices?
Where were you when I was creating a slimier topic against CloudBet. What happen if anyone endorse Cloudbet?  That time everyone was not sure about the movement of CloudBet.

Oh yeh, (may be) I know the reason. You knew that you have to talk against your God Father(s) who give you their ass when needed so that you can lick them. Pathetic moron.

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[BlackMambaPH]

For those who asking about post count that didn't tally with your current post count, try to change your forum timezone to (-3) Brazil Time. YoBit exchange uses Brazil timezone on that signature campaign symtem.
You can change your forum timezone here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=account;sa=theme

[Anonylz]

For those who asking about post count that didn't tally with your current post count, try to change your forum timezone to (-3) Brazil Time. YoBit exchange uses Brazil timezone on that signature campaign symtem.

You can change your forum timezone here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=account;sa=theme

ummm that explains why some of the post i made on the 20th where counted as that of 21st, i look at the time the post where made and it was still within on the 20th according to forum time but it is clear now why that happens, thanks for the heads up, very helpful.

[sergiorus]

How long does it take to see the results on the Yobit website?

★ Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours

tell and posts in the Russian branch are considered ?Or only in English the forum ?

Only posts in the main (English) forum are paid.
Although for example from the former USSR there are many clients at the exchange.

yes they even have Russian Ruble on the exchange. I think posting in Russian local boards would be perspective. However for now Local boards posts aren't being accepted.

[Anonylz]

It's a max of 20 posts a day, you aren't required to make 20 posts a day, if you want to be greedy and just post for the sake of posting.

I just signed up and I won't be making 20 posts a day.  

It is not mandatory for participants to make 20 post but it is a choice if you want to post up to 20 to earn, the most important to note is abiding by forum and campaign rules not spam and most of all try to make your post a bit more constructive, if you read the yobit rules on the signature page they specifically pointed out that one line post wont be tolerated, at the same time encourage good post, so it's your choice the make any number as long as it does not exceed 20 per day.

[Golgoth]

It's a max of 20 posts a day, you aren't required to make 20 posts a day, if you want to be greedy and just post for the sake of posting.

I just signed up and I won't be making 20 posts a day.  

Posting 20x max a day wont really be a problem as long you do obey forum rules and so as with signature campaign rules too.We cant really blame people here on saying maxing 20 post a day is a sign of greed.
Not all people promoting yobit are greedy ones,its just normal for people to jump in where they do saw that rates is much better on other but well it do really give out negative insights for other members of this forum as well.

I'm not sure about that they are doing a poll in meta to ask if members should leave negative trust feed backs to the Yobit campaign participants.
And for the moment most of members are saying No (73%)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134345
So I think it's only few users who are hateful for unknown reasons(maybe personal reasons).

[TryNinja]

I'm not sure about that they are doing a poll in meta to ask if members should leave negative trust feed backs to the campaign participants.
And for the moment most of members are saying No (73%)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134345
So I think it's only few users who are hateful for unknown reasons(maybe personal reasons).

Polls are useless here. Anybody can vote (even recently created accounts) and it's obvious that while most forum users don't care about this poll (thus they don't vote), every user on Yobit's campaign will go to that thread and vote No.

Anyways, the answer is always no. I would like to neg-trust the obvious spammers (20 shitposts in 45 minutes and such), but theymos already stated that we shouldn't do this. And not for personal reasons, but because those spammers don't deserve a single penny.

[Golgoth]

Polls are useless here. Anybody can vote (even recently created accounts) and it's obvious that while most forum users don't care about this poll (thus they don't vote), every user on Yobit's campaign will go to that thread and vote No.

Anyways, the answer is always no. I would like to neg-trust the obvious spammers (20 shitposts in 45 minutes and such), but theymos already stated that we shouldn't do this. And not for personal reasons, but because those spammers don't deserve a single penny.

I don't think so, nobody talks about this poll anywhere, so it's only random users who vote.
But maybe it's also because of the rules

I do not view it as appropriate for trust ratings to relate primarily to non-trust matters. By giving someone negative trust, you're basically attaching a note to all of their posts telling people "warning: do not trade with this person!".
[...]
- Giving negative trust for being an annoying poster is inappropriate, since this has nothing to do with their trustworthiness. If they're disrupting discussion or never adding anything, then that's something for moderators to deal with, and you should report their posts and/or complain in Meta about it.
 - Giving negative trust for merit trading and deceptive alt-account use may be appropriate, but you should use a light touch so that people don't feel paranoid.
 - You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
- It is absolutely not appropriate to give someone negative trust because you disagree with them.

[FaucetKING]

Yobit is a SCAM exchange, They have been selectively scamming users for years, they have countless scam accusations against them, Anyone participating in this campaign will be red trusted for supporting a scam

While scam only YOU.
Shout here in red and large font.
Open your Signature company and shout there.

Some peoples are just coming here, putting their balls on ice and asking us to implement and follow their orders.
They are not our masters.. IMHO, I think that every disrespectful member should get a tag on their account.. For how long we will see this disrespectful type of peoples and stay silent?.
You are right Webmir..

[hulla]

This is one good campaign but if there is a risk of getting red tagged or becoming part of a scam one then I'm thinking of getting out, all the previous campaign I'm in are all trustworthy maybe I'll spend drinking two bottles of beers and think of my option

Let's make peace,anyway, we all have one vision to make Bitcoin fully adopted

There's no risk of been red tagged or spamming the forum if you joined this campaign but this is only applicable for participants who are not one liner, poor quality and unconstructive poster cause the moderators of this forum are aware of the present matter which you can confirm through Hilarious statement.

[DarkStar_]

This is what you are saying (correct me if I am wrong)...

- The current pay rate still exists for ChipMixer
- Additional option: Members can switch to a new ChipMixer rule which will pay for 140 posts a week at a rate of 0.0003 BTC/post

Correct.

The bet I was talking is in between two different specific campaigns. ChipMixer and Yobit.
ChipMixer will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week
YoBit will pay 0.0003 per post for up to 140 posts a week.

It's no brainier that people will be more attracted to YoBit campaign simply because of the easier terms.  Now, about the post quality it really depends on the individual.

At no point in your original post did you suggest a ChipMixer payment drop. This is what you said:

I tell you what, this will be interesting if Yobit starts to pay 0.0003 per post for all accepted rank (Sr+). This will make 0.042 btc per week. Run it for few weeks, pay regularly, promise a long term campaign - you will see a lot of them shamelessly will leave that campaign and join here.

I agree that if we had the same payment rate, people would be more attracted to YoBit as the terms are much less strict. Unless I'm missing something though, I don't see where you mentioned both campaigns having the same rate. Reading it again, I'm guessing that you were making comparisons towards the BestMixer campaign, correct? That would make more sense and you'd almost certainly be correct.

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edit: if we do bet, I'm not asking for a lot. Maybe something like 0.01BTC donated to the winner's choice of charity? I'm not rich either  

Really!
I thought you are filthy rich but looks like your situation is 10 times down than me  

Tuition is expensive  
I can bet 0.1BTC if you really wanted to but it seems like it won't be happening as we both misunderstood each other.

I think that Chipmixer is the best campaign right now that Darkstar is managing great, what I don't like is that all DT are in there, to me it simply look suspicious that all DT members want to stay in that campaign when there are other better campaigns in terms of payrate  out there and paying.

Bitsler, Bustadice, BitCasino and FortuneJack do pay more per post for certain ranks based on the current exchange rate, but ChipMixer has no minimum post requirement and a higher maximum. Those campaigns are almost always full as well, so it's not very easy to switch. Stake is the only one with a higher maximum but you need to make 1000 posts to reach that 0.1BTC maximum.

[Searing]

Well..checked my yobit account. Seems to be working. Just for those who are not in the campaign yet.

We will see

As to how 'sketchy' this or other exchanges are...NEVER leave anything in such exchanges (if possible)

I mean we are 'kinda' locked into leaving BTC from this signature campaign in yobit..but then again they want us to spend our BTC

on other sh*tcoins as that is how they make $$$. So I guess that is understandable.

I did not look though...what are the conditions to take such BTC out? Is there a set time (1x a week) is there a min baseline you

can't take the BTC out before...or do they just farm it out to you at their leisure? I see I've made like 4 posts or some such

and the bar to take out (if I remember right) was grayed out.

Anybody, (lazy...figured someone knows this stuff and I'm busy stuffing myself with Easter food)

thanks

brad

[Zadicar]

It's a max of 20 posts a day, you aren't required to make 20 posts a day, if you want to be greedy and just post for the sake of posting.

I just signed up and I won't be making 20 posts a day.  

Posting 20x max a day wont really be a problem as long you do obey forum rules and so as with signature campaign rules too.We cant really blame people here on saying maxing 20 post a day is a sign of greed.
Not all people promoting yobit are greedy ones,its just normal for people to jump in where they do saw that rates is much better on other but well it do really give out negative insights for other members of this forum as well.

I'm not sure about that they are doing a poll in meta to ask if members should leave negative trust feed backs to the Yobit campaign participants.
And for the moment most of members are saying No (73%)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134345
So I think it's only few users who are hateful for unknown reasons(maybe personal reasons).

Im with TryNinja's comment about this where these polls are pretty useless.Why? even new accounts can cast their vote and just simply press or choose that "No" then it would add up on the result.

Talking about this poll,i would still choose "No". SPAM is really a problem but it isnt really that right that DT powers would be abused to paint these users.Theymos already clarified it out such thing but for those users who are typically spammers shouldnt really be confident due to this matter yet once you have been caught for spamming then Moderators of this forum will have that final hammer for you.

[sergiorus]

does anybody know what timeline Yobit operate in?
i mean does the new day starts at 0:00 UTC for them?

[posi]

does anybody know what timeline Yobit operate in?
i mean does the new day starts at 0:00 UTC for them?

The campaign is automated daily pay but what I learnt when reading through this thread is that the campaign run with (-3) Brazilian time zone while posts are updated every 3-4 hours and the best way to get your daily post count is to make use of the above time zone.

[Yobit Support]

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

[tbct_mt2]

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

If you actually come from Yobit team, you should create an official bounty topic for this campaign. It's a good way to stop massive spam topics on Yobit. Hiring good manager (yahoo, currently is the Yobit team choice, but deal has not made) to check post quality and gaps between posts are utmost thing to guarantee the campaign will end with success.

[IconFirm]

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

That's just hilarious coming from a scam exchange like yours that had their entire official thread deleted by moderators for using fake accounts to post/bump with.

You'd better ban yourself then.

Endless list of Yoshit scams:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2;params=YWR2YW5jZWR8J3wwfCJ8YnJkfCd8ODN8InxzaG93X2NvbXBsZXRlfCd8fCJ8c3ViamVjdF9vbmx5fCd8fCJ8c29ydHwnfHJlbGV2YW5jZXwifHNvcnRfZGlyfCd8ZGVzY3wifHNlYXJjaHwnfHlvYml0;start=0

[Mulann2]

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

If you actually come from Yobit team, you should create an official bounty topic for this campaign. It's a good way to stop massive spam topics on Yobit. Hiring good manager (yahoo, currently is the Yobit team choice, but deal has not made) to check post quality and gaps between posts are utmost thing to guarantee the campaign will end with success.

Haven't you heard! AI is at play in case you haven't noticed Artificial Intelligent has taking over the campaign this time, your God Father Yahoo is not needed nope they don,t want him or any of his buddies in this forum, am sure the yobit guys are very capable of doing things on their own, and how the hell did you come to that conclusion  
Nice update from the yobit team.

[LoyceV]

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Can you prove you're official? Using your YoBit account would help.
Can you provide a list of userIDs that applied? In return, I'll give you a list of all red trusted accounts (free of charge).
I also have a list of userIDs and earned Merit, see http://loyce.club/Merit/userID_merit.txt (also free of charge). I suggest to set a minimum (say 10), and remove all users who earned less than that. Many alt-accounts woke up after years to start spamming this campaign.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

The length of a post has nothing to do with quality. Short spam ("good post") is annoying, long spam is even worse!