Vod is an extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[Vod]

Stop trying to threaten me.

I don't see anyone doing this.

All I did was say we'll chat under a certain condition (when he was charged)

OG obviously sees the potential in the condition so he views it as a threat.

Al Capone still claimed he was innocent as he was led away in cuffs, too.   

[suchmoon]

leaving emotional frivolous feedback ratings like a spurned teenage girl

Is that also something theymos told you?

<< I'd post a picture of nice ripe cherries here but mods don't like it so y'all just gonna have to imagine it >>

[OgNasty]

leaving emotional frivolous feedback ratings like a spurned teenage girl

Is that also something theymos told you?

No. Didn’t you read yesterday’s drama? Let’s stay on topic in this thread. Vod is now alleging some sort of illegal behavior, and we should let him continue.

[suchmoon]

leaving emotional frivolous feedback ratings like a spurned teenage girl

Is that also something theymos told you?

No. Didn’t you read yesterday’s drama? Let’s stay on topic in this thread. Vod is now alleging some sort of illegal behavior, and we should let him continue.

The drama that showed you to have been lying? I did. That's what makes this topic so ironic. I understand that you're desperate for any cherries to cover up that fiasco but hopefully you'll be able to muster some dignity and lock the thread.

[OgNasty]

leaving emotional frivolous feedback ratings like a spurned teenage girl

Is that also something theymos told you?

No. Didn’t you read yesterday’s drama? Let’s stay on topic in this thread. Vod is now alleging some sort of illegal behavior, and we should let him continue.

The drama that showed you to have been lying? I did. That's what makes this topic so ironic. I understand that you're desperate for any cherries to cover up that fiasco but hopefully you'll be able to muster some dignity and lock the thread.

It actually showed that I was telling the truth.  As always, you take the exact opposite side of honesty.  If you aren't a paid troll at this point, you really need to find a better hobby than being habitually wrong with your opinion.  I'm now asking you for the second time to keep your posts on topic or create your own thread to spout your nonsense.

[Anduck]

Suchmoon, could you for once lecture all involved parties instead of targeting just one? (In case you insist on lecturing in the first place.) You bring nothing good here by doing what you're doing right now.

[suchmoon]

It actually showed that I was telling the truth.  As always, you take the exact opposite side of honesty.  If you aren't a paid troll at this point, you really need to find a better hobby than being habitually wrong with your opinion.  I'm now asking you for the second time to keep your posts on topic or create your own thread to spout your nonsense.

If you don't like dissenting opinions you don't have to keep this thread open.

Suchmoon, could you for once lecture all involved parties instead of targeting just one? (In case you insist on lecturing in the first place.) You bring nothing good here by doing what you're doing right now.

You're slipping, there's only two-and-a-half fallacies in your three sentences.

[Vod]

THANK YOU THEYMOS FOR HAVING TO STEP IN WHEN OG WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!  

[marlboroza]

I'm not embarrassed by this thread and won't be locking it until Vod apologizes for the lies he spread about a community organization to cover up his shameful behavior.  

I am really sorry, but I couldn't find any legal information about this organization, and my "SEC friend" told me that if something looks fishy to outsiders (not to people who are "in" it) then it probably is, therefore Vod doesn't need to apologize.

Maybe stop bumping this thread with useless comments

You should hand me merit for my useful comment where I gave valuable information to those who missed thread in meta, at least for wasting my time to write constructive post to point that coin has two sides - and this thread is perfect example of it, on one hand you are accusing Vod of lying on the other hand you have been caught lying and theymos had to step in to show everyone your lies (you should apologize to the man for bringing him in this drama), you have showed huge capability to mislead in conversations and taking words out of contexts so no, I don't trust any single quote you posted here, at least I believe they are took out of context.


Further, using these kind of private messages from people who trusted each other to attack them, and trust me, these kind of conversations should remain secret, especially when someone sees friend in you (I suppose Vod did, but I am not sure any more) only shows me that you are not someone who can be trusted in any way.

This is lowest you can go, OG.

And:

instead of leaving emotional frivolous feedback ratings like a spurned teenage girl.

You don't even want me to start about emotions here, including people to DT who have sent negative feedback to people you don't like, errr..negative for editing post IIRC, was it aTriz(got to double check this, not sure any more it was long time ago), excluding people from your trust network after you see perfectly valid comment on trust wall from them etc etc.

I can talk all day about emotions, OG Nasty.

As I said:

It is time to stop embarrassing yourself any further and to lock this thread.

sorry for broken English  

[Vod]

I am really sorry, but I couldn't find any legal information about this organization

I really doubt there would be any organization, because OG's tax scam would be discovered earlier.

He receives personal investments, calls them "donations" so there is no tax, uses those investments to buy equipment to make a profit, then passes on the profit to the investors as dividends, which he also calls "donations" so there is no tax.  You must invest (or offer free services like advertising) to get the dividends.  "Donations" are just a word he introduced to scam the system.

It's time we compared notes.  OG has posted a picture of his row house with the solar panels, so it will be trivial to find his physical address once we know his general location.  He has been interviewed by a reporter about what he is doing (honorable by going green, dishonorable by not paying taxes) and he has posted he has at least 500 victims that invested about 800+ btc.  

I like how he bragged he bought a pedal generator with some of the money.  Yes, if the power goes down for an extended period and batteries run dry , OG will hop on the bike to keep profits flowing, and NOT to keep his fridge running.  

Then there is bitcointalk, presumably a legit organization, that has been paying OG 0.5btc a month to safeguard a number since 2013.  (Currently, that is $37 per working hour.)  I doubt he has paid taxes on anything, and that can be proven by following the coin to the exchanges when he withdrew.  The IRS can easily get his KYC.

Let the IRS take him down - they will do their own investigations, and they are very good at it.  I don't care if he is exposed in a recently-edited thread calling me a liar.  

[marlboroza]

He receives personal investments, calls them "donations" so there is no tax, uses those investments to buy equipment to make a profit, then passes on the profit to the investors as dividends, which he also calls "donations" so there is no tax.  You must invest (or offer free services like advertising) to get the dividends.  "Donations" are just a word he introduced to scam the system.

I can only say that I came to the same conclusion, just to add something:

What does the fanclub do?

We discuss the current and future trends of Bitcoin mining. We have polls to vote and give OgNasty ideas and advice about improving NASTY MINING. We donate Bitcoin to help improve NASTY MINING. As a fanclub we do whatever we want to show our enthusiasm for NASTY MINING. It is a lot of fun!

What do fanclub members get out of it?

We get to be part of Bitcoin and take part in making a good mining operation. It is exciting to be part of the CPU to GPU to FPGA to ASIC evolution of mining. Often OgNasty donates the mined Bitcoins to our fanclub. 75% of all donations to the fanclub are distributed to fanclub members interested in receiving donations. (The fanclub voted to have the other 25% donated to 1NASTYfxUpKPwin7b1KTBFjeeofrLSgXDJ - NASTY MINING to improve the mining operation.)

Source: https://www.nastyfans.org/

Often OgNasty donates

Often turns out to be "100% often".

Nasty mining donates 100% to Nasty Fans then Nasty Fans distributes 75% to investards and donates 25% back to Nasty mining.


Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

2 questions.
How many seats OG and "the other guy" own (percentage)?
How this works, organization "A" donates to organization "B" and then organization "B" donates back to organization "A" while organization "A" sells investment thingies which are used for organization "B" and "A"?

until Vod apologizes for the lies he spread about a community organization to cover up his shameful behavior

escalating his attacks to provably honest community organizations I support.

What is the name of provably honest organization which sells seats and pays dividends to investards?

DISCLAIMER: NASTYFANS SEATS ARE NOT SECURITIES AND NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

Buying seats to receive dividend, 75% to investards sounds like security to me. I don't think anyone can do "buy it to receive fix 75% donations" and call it donation, it is not donation any more.

Anyway, OG stated this:

I am behind the mining operation and I don't need a donation for development.  I'm the one OFFERING a donation for development. 

I am still trying to figure out why "nonnakip" needs donation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg50620746#msg50620746 and why OG shills so hard for this organization. What is its business except sharing dividends to investards, which came from mining operation? OG can't share dividends by himself or something? He needs another organization to do it?


Anyway, I want to receive 75% dividends from NastyMining operation, but I can't do that without buying seats:



So, before I decide to invest my money to receive dividend and my share, what is the name of that organization and where can we find this fun club organization?


I believe, as this is in topic (I would say most important part of topic), we need to know these thingies to determine whether Vod is lying or telling the true 

[Vod]

He receives personal investments, calls them "donations" so there is no tax, uses those investments to buy equipment to make a profit, then passes on the profit to the investors as dividends, which he also calls "donations" so there is no tax.  You must invest (or offer free services like advertising) to get the dividends.  "Donations" are just a word he introduced to scam the system.

I can only say that I came to the same conclusion, just to add something:

People try all kinds of schemes to avoid paying taxes.  The IRS has seen it all.

DISCLAIMER: NASTYFANS SEATS ARE NOT SECURITIES AND NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

Did that just pop up when he last edited the thread a couple days ago?  

The investigation has been started in the "Investigations" section, under "Scam Accusations".

[marlboroza]

Did that just pop up when he last edited the thread a couple days ago?  

No. I'll check it and update this post.

July 18, 2017
http://web.archive.org/web/20170718011656/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
No warning or disclaimer.

November 27, 2017 http://web.archive.org/web/20171127050719/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

WARNING: NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT AND TRADERS LOOKING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK SHOULD NOT BECOME MEMBERS.

March 15, 2018 http://web.archive.org/web/20180315024937/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
Message was redacted to this:

WARNING: NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

August 16, 2018 http://web.archive.org/web/20180816010642/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

DISCLAIMER: NASTYFANS SEATS ARE NOT SECURITIES AND NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

[bones261]

DISCLAIMER: NASTYFANS SEATS ARE NOT SECURITIES AND NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

Did that just pop up when he last edited the thread a couple days ago?   

This is how the line was worded on 4 Dec 2017.

WARNING: NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

http://archive.vn/dFH2m

[Last of the V8s]

DISCLAIMER: NASTYFANS SEATS ARE NOT SECURITIES AND NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

Did that just pop up when he last edited the thread a couple days ago?   

This is how the line was worded on 4 Dec 2017.

WARNING: NASTYFANS GIVES NO PROMISE OF PROFIT

http://archive.vn/dFH2m

an earlier archive http://web.archive.org/web/20130606192647/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg954234
mentioned in discussions from here onwards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg28139448#msg28139448

I wonder which member holds the record for most posts edited? Sometimes many years after the fact.

[Vod]

I wonder which member holds the record for most posts edited? Sometimes many years after the fact.

Since there is no feed for edited posts, and you can only tell a post has been edited by visiting it, there is no way to tell.  :/

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Does everyone else find it more peaceful here when OG is uselessly deleting old posts instead of making up lying bullshit?

Even his dog is quiet.

I have to give the IRS permission now to use "Vod is a liar." as the slogan for their next tax fraud public awareness campaign...  Let's hope they use the picture where my boob looks the most "unlicked".   :/  50 years of saliva will ruin anything....

[OgNasty]

What's this obsession liberals have with other peoples taxes?  Vod, I pay my taxes.  There are two certainties in life, death and taxes.  You have absolutely no clue what I pay, and are wildly speculating.  By all means though, keep digging your hole.  I'm sure lots of users here have respect for this type of behavior.  

[Last of the V8s]

What's this obsession liberals have with other peoples taxes?  Vod, I pay my taxes.  There are two certainties in life, death and taxes.  You have absolutely no clue what I pay, and are wildly speculating.  By all means though, keep digging your hole.  I'm sure lots of users here have respect for this type of behavior.  

Bit mean of the IRS to need taxes from a loss-making business. Perhaps you made a mistake in your accounting.

edited to insert quote in case it gets 'taxed'

[Vod]

Form 3949-A completed to be mailed.

I did not realize until talking to an agent that I could qualify for up to a 30% reward!   That means I could potentially refund part of the money lost by the initial scam victims.  

OG sure is going crazy with the edits on his sites...   does he realize everything is archived?

[OgNasty]

Form 3949-A completed to be mailed.

I did not realize until talking to an agent that I could qualify for up to a 30% reward!   That means I could potentially refund part of the money lost by the initial scam victims.  

OG sure is going crazy with the edits on his sites...   does he realize everything is archived?

The only edit I’ve made recently was adding the new antminer to the hardware list. I will probably do more to separate NastyMining info from the NastyFans thread though, as it is clearly causing confusion.