🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[notblox1]

I think odds for Joanna Jedrzejczyk to win against Michelle Waterson are to low.
Looking at statistics and Joanna lost three of her four previous fights.

Michelle on the other hand won her last three fights.
Even if JJ wins it will not be easy, but I am going with low stake on Waterson here...
maybe I am influenced by here image previously posted image here idk   

[SaShiRaJaVu]

I think odds for Joanna Jedrzejczyk to win against Michelle Waterson are to low.
Looking at statistics and Joanna lost three of her four previous fights.

Michelle on the other hand won her last three fights.
Even if JJ wins it will not be easy, but I am going with low stake on Waterson here...
maybe I am influenced by here image previously posted image here idk   

If you are looking at the past few fights you might not see many wins for Joanna Jedrzejczyk as she was fighting champions in her fights she lost and on the other hand Michelle Waterson won fights but she was not fighting the elite fighters or champions and that is the main difference and hence i am going with Joanna Jedrzejczyk because of her championship experience and her striking.


 

[notblox1]

If you are looking at the past few fights you might not see many wins for Joanna Jedrzejczyk as she was fighting champions in her fights she lost and on the other hand Michelle Waterson won fights but she was not fighting the elite fighters or champions and that is the main difference and hence i am going with Joanna Jedrzejczyk because of her championship experience and her striking.
 

I did watched some JJ fights before and I know she lost against best fighters,
she is also going to fight on home field (her training gym).
Nevertheless odds are to low for me, and I don't think she is now mentally ready to win under pressure
Maybe I am wrong. Let's see.

There where also some doubts about JJ weight issues few days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa6LSOEJrWE

[eaLiTy]

I had my doubts on Mackenzie Dern and her performance as she is coming back from a long layoff after pregnancy and it is not that easy to be back in shape and she lost the fight against Amanda Ribas and she was not even able to secure a take down while Amanda Ribas took her down twice .

The rest of the fights are going on, i am expecting Kron Gracie to win as Cub Swanson is on a loosing streak for the past one year and most of the defeats are on the ground and in the main event i am going with Joanna Jedrzejczyk to win the fight and she missed weight by a long margin which is not fair for Michelle Waterson.


Edit:
Niko Prince won the fight inside the first round and i expected this win but not in the first round.

[notblox1]

Swanson vs Gracie just finished and it was some epic incredible fight!
Cub Swanson won clean and odds was great.
First lost for Gracie.

[btc_angela]

Swanson vs Gracie just finished and it was some epic incredible fight!
Cub Swanson won clean and odds was great.
First lost for Gracie.

Epic fight, I thought Cub was done after the first round and might ran out of gas. But damn those body shots it's all right in the money. Those two put a slug fest but I would agree that Cub is the clear winner here and he was able to display his striker here, talking about turning back the clock, good performance. It will be interesting to see how much those two thrown in the fight, it could be a record.

[uray]

Swanson vs Gracie just finished and it was some epic incredible fight!
Cub Swanson won clean and odds was great.

The odds were great for Cub Swanson but he was coming in after loosing his last four fights and age is also not in his side and he had a lot of wars, but it was a great battle and Gracie tried his best to take him to the ground but Cub Swanson was smart enough to avoid those and allow kept a good distance and the total strikes landed in the fight is a crazy amount.

Joanna Jedrzejczyk won the fight.

[bbc.reporter]

@notblox1. Agreed! However, Kron the sadomasochist can take the punisment hehehe. Also, he must learn how to use level changes and wrestling single or double leg takedowns together with his jiujitsu. Walking to his opponent whole striking will not always work.

[Jating]

Exactly, I don't know if he has a plan though, it looks like he fall for the trap as Swanson just continue to hit him specially in round one. He has been hit hard in the stomach but there are moments that he put his arms down, which means he is really hurt.

@notblox1. Agreed! However, Kron the sadomasochist can take the punisment hehehe. Also, he must learn how to use level changes and wrestling single or double leg takedowns together with his jiujitsu. Walking to his opponent whole striking will not always work.

But I'm not sure why he continue to plod down and never try to attempt a solid take down. Walking on Swanson is the one of the worst thing he did in his entire career. And I don't understand how his corner didn't tell him to adjust.

[notblox1]

Joanna Jedrzejczyk won the fight.

Yeah... she won, and she was a better fighter, but Watersom showed a big heart.
I did play for surprise win for Michelle Waterson, and she had the neck of Joanna in one situation, but could not finish her :/

[Vispilio]

Yeah... she won, and she was a better fighter, but Watersom showed a big heart.
I did play for surprise win for Michelle Waterson, and she had the neck of Joanna in one situation, but could not finish her :/

Waterson doesn't even look like she has a fighter's physique. She is muscular, but not in the graceful or balanced way that you would expect someone with a lot of fighting instinct & experience to develop.

I would bet any fighting girl who grew up in the streets would also take her out...

[tokeweed]

^  Rofl.

Anyway good result for JJ.  I think she's going after the belt judging from her post fight interview with Bisping.  I hope it happens..  I wanna see how vintage JJ matches up vs the Chinese girl since nobody at the women's SW top 5 wants to fight for the belt atm except JJ.

Edit:  Here are the results.



WTG Cub! 

[eaLiTy]

Yeah... she won, and she was a better fighter, but Watersom showed a big heart.
I did play for surprise win for Michelle Waterson, and she had the neck of Joanna in one situation, but could not finish her :/

Michelle Waterson jumped on the back of Joanna Jedrzejczyk a couple of times and that is the only thing she could do in the entire fight, Joanna Jedrzejczyk  was lighting her legs from the start and Waterson was not able to counter anything in the entire fight and the pace at which the fight was done was incredible.

Waterson doesn't even look like she has a fighter's physique. She is muscular, but not in the graceful or balanced way that you would expect someone with a lot of fighting instinct & experience to develop.

What do you see in a fighter to come to a conclusion that she is a fighter, for start she is fighting in the UFC and only the elite fighters will get the opportunity. She is not championship caliber fighter and she was fighting a former champion.

I would bet any fighting girl who grew up in the streets would also take her out...

This is the biggest joke  .  Michelle Waterson started doing Karate at the age of ten and is a black belt and she also learned many other martial arts and if someone who does not have any martial artist background these fighters could kill them  .

[notblox1]

I would bet any fighting girl who grew up in the streets would also take her out...

Whaaat ? Are you joking or what?
Joanna broke her won leg kicking her, and she was still fighting until last second.

I would bet all my crypto that she would kick or choke easy you and most regular guys on the street.

[Vispilio]

What do you see in a fighter to come to a conclusion that she is a fighter, for start she is fighting in the UFC and only the elite fighters will get the opportunity. She is not championship caliber fighter and she was fighting a former champion.
...
Michelle Waterson started doing Karate at the age of ten and is a black belt and she also learned many other martial arts and if someone who does not have any martial artist background these fighters could kill them

There is a great difference between being a black belt in karate, taekwondo, jujutsu etc. and being able to effectively destroy someone in a combat situation.

Even in Men's olympics, maybe 2-3 people / weight class from each combat sport exhibit killer instinct and real fighting spirit that would translate to real life situations, and the rest are just good-natured sportsmen, nothing wrong with that, just making the point that there are categorical differences and it's even more pronounced in female fighting, which is still brand new...

[Vispilio]

I would bet any fighting girl who grew up in the streets would also take her out...

Whaaat ? Are you joking or what?
Joanna broke her won leg kicking her, and she was still fighting until last second.

I would bet all my crypto that she would kick or choke easy you and most regular guys on the street.

notblox from that comment alone I guarantee that you have 0 fighting experience or any close quarters combat background.
just take my word for it before you embarrass yourself in real life,

ps. I would gladly take the other side of any bet you make regarding fighting or combat sports, but I'm almost 100% certain you wouldn't be able to treasure your promises when the payday comes.

[notblox1]

notblox from that comment alone I guarantee that you have 0 fighting experience or any close quarters combat background.
just take my word for it before you embarrass yourself in real life,

ps. I would gladly take the other side of any bet you make regarding fighting or combat sports, but I'm almost 100% certain you wouldn't be able to treasure your promises when the payday comes.

@Vispilio
You must also have some supernatural powers now
as I see you can judge fight skills for all people now...even before you see them.

Make sure to call Michelle first and go one round in cage training with her and record it with your phone.
You will be guaranteed place in UFC  

[YuginKadoya]

I have been losing for four consecutive fight right now and I think it is my poor decision that is getting on to me, and with this recent fight against Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs Michelle Waterson I have seen a much experience on Waterson than Jedrzejczyk, Well because Waterson had a belt on Karate and other martial arts I have decided much potential on her, Than seeing the potential for Joanna Jedrzejczyk that is fighting elite fighters, I can say that I am pretty mesmerized by Michelle Waterson's Beauty that makes me have a silly decision, but I don't have any regrets!

[Vispilio]

@Vispilio
You must also have some supernatural powers now
as I see you can judge fight skills for all people now...even before you see them.

Make sure to call Michelle first and go one round in cage training with her and record it with your phone.
You will be guaranteed place in UFC  

Oh excuse me , but if you really believe that a 50kg black belt girl can take on fit men 2x her size, then you might be better off staying home

and playing politically correct video games with female protagonists...

[eaLiTy]

There is a great difference between being a black belt in karate, taekwondo, jujutsu etc. and being able to effectively destroy someone in a combat situation.

Hope you are aware that these are fighting styles used to destroy people in a combat scenario and not like playing a virtual game of all these martial arts. I am not sure what you are trying to tell here, a normal person without any combat or martial arts experience will easily destroy someone who is learning these martial arts for years  .

Oh excuse me , but if you really believe that a 50kg black belt girl can take on fit men 2x her size, then you might be better off staying home

If a 50 Kg black belt girl is fighting a man 2x her size who does not have any combat or martial arts experience she will easily defeat them, in a street fight there are no rules and a experienced martial arts know how to kick your groin and eye gauging is possible and then running is always the best self defense in the world and if you are a martial artist you will be fit enough to outrun them .