🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[Bttzed03]

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I wonder why people blame doc? Nate should have protected himself better. The doc has done the right thing - saved the health of the fighter.

Because other doctors in another jurisdiction would have allowed Nate to fight despite that cut...at least that's what I'm reading


Nate badly wanted a rematch and won't take any other match that will be offered by the UFC.

"I'm not coming back making names for no people," Diaz said. "Every person I fought, they (the UFC) would say he gets a title shot if he beats me. What do I get? 'You get No 27 (ranked fighter) again.

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"Don't play me like you have, and this is where it all starts, I can feel it already. Don't be telling me I gotta fight Joe Blow over here, then say we offered him fights. I don't wanna hear that. I plan on getting along with them, if they get along with me."

[ene1980]

I wonder why people blame doc? Nate should have protected himself better. The doc has done the right thing - saved the health of the fighter.

It might not be the best stoppage but the doctor is there to take care of the fighter and his health and not to satisfy the audience and i will watch the rematch but Jorge Masvidal is on a good momentum and i would like to see him fight for the belt before going back to the rematch and Nate Diaz have the option to carry on with the Conor trilogy as Conor expressed his wishes to return.

[jakoylantern]

I wonder why people blame doc? Nate should have protected himself better. The doc has done the right thing - saved the health of the fighter.

It might not be the best stoppage but the doctor is there to take care of the fighter and his health and not to satisfy the audience and i will watch the rematch but Jorge Masvidal is on a good momentum and i would like to see him fight for the belt before going back to the rematch and Nate Diaz have the option to carry on with the Conor trilogy as Conor expressed his wishes to return.

Yes, I agree with what you said that the doctor is there to take care of the fighter and not to satisfy the audience. That's the doctor's job to make sure that the fighter will stay safe ( able to fight with his/her circumstance) also the additional info is that if the doctor let the fighter to fight even to her/his condition the doctor will be blamed to what will happen after he/she got re-examine. But some fans will be surely angry because one of his interview he said this " The doctor played me, he asked me if I’m good, I said cool. He goes back to the other guy and says the fight’s off.I’m like, ‘What the f***’.”   

source https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3036115/nate-diaz-blasts-doctor-dana-white-ufc-244

[KennyXBTC]

well , for me doc saved diaz .

Jorge was clearly playing with Diaz after round 2, yeah diaz might have better stamina , but still in the match we can clearly see that Jorge is better .

End of story .

[7788bitcoin]

well , for me doc saved diaz .
Jorge was clearly playing with Diaz after round 2, yeah diaz might have better stamina , but still in the match we can clearly see that Jorge is better .
End of story .

Even if the fight is not stopped Jorge Masvidal would have won the fight as he was winning the fight and i do not agree with the stoppage and there is no doubt that Nate Diaz will continue till the final round and even in the Conor fight Nate Diaz took a lot of damage in the first two rounds and he was bloodied and i am sure if the same doctor was in that ring he would have stopped that and we all know what happened, Conor gassed out and Nate Diaz chocked him out.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Another interesting match coming up for Zabit Magomedsharipov who i consider one of the best all rounded fighter in the UFC and he will be facing Calvin Kattar and it will be a great fight and we see many unorthodox moves from Zabit as all of his fights we high level in the feet as well as in the ground and he is just getting better every fight and i consider Zabit as a future champion.

[inthelongrun]

well , for me doc saved diaz .
Jorge was clearly playing with Diaz after round 2, yeah diaz might have better stamina , but still in the match we can clearly see that Jorge is better .
End of story .

Even if the fight is not stopped Jorge Masvidal would have won the fight as he was winning the fight and i do not agree with the stoppage and there is no doubt that Nate Diaz will continue till the final round and even in the Conor fight Nate Diaz took a lot of damage in the first two rounds and he was bloodied and i am sure if the same doctor was in that ring he would have stopped that and we all know what happened, Conor gassed out and Nate Diaz chocked him out.

Because Diaz was winning or the fight was close against Connor. Which is very different to his fight with Mashvidal. Mashvidal is just too good and not in the same level with Diaz. Diaz is a journeyman, he sells fight but if he continues fighting top 10 ranked in his UFC division his losses will equal his win record.

[Bttzed03]

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i consider Zabit as a future champion.

I just watched some of his fights and I can agree that he can be one someday. I was like watching Stephen Thompson and Pettis in their prime.

[tokeweed]

Almost forgot...  Everybody should always watch any post fight press conference with Dana White in it.  It kinda gives you the idea of what's going on and what's coming next even if he doesn't make fights after the fight.

And always take note of Ariel Helwani's questions. 

UFC 244:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeS8BWFZno&t=5368s

[YuginKadoya]

I wonder why people blame doc? Nate should have protected himself better. The doc has done the right thing - saved the health of the fighter.

Well other fighters known Nate Diaz very well and I guess they feel that Diaz can simply still keep the fight going and they truly understand what Nate is capable of doing and when pressured he will surely pump and keeps on fighting they surely understand that but I think they surely can't ignore that the decision was in the doctors hands and they are twitting like this to give sympathy on how Nate Diaz would react to the result.

Well, anyway I think we need to move on and just wait for another rematch to announce because it is already done and let's just focus on the upcoming fights on the FIGHT NIGHT 163 that will be on 10 Nov.

[inthelongrun]

After winning against an inactive Ben Askren and a journeyman but popular Nate Diaz, Jorge Mashvidal feels like he needs to join the big money leagues. Mashvidal intends to fight Connor McGregor or Saul Alvarez in a boxing match. He can easily beat Connor and the guy is now inactive. Everybody in MMA wants Connor now because the guy is the cash cow in MMA. In a boxing match, superstar Saul Alvarez kills him, but maybe worth the risk as he can earn a $5 million payday.

I think UFC fighters are underpaid. Or is it boxing superstars overpaid?     

[7788bitcoin]

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Because Diaz was winning or the fight was close against Connor. Which is very different to his fight with Mashvidal. Mashvidal is just too good and not in the same level with Diaz. Diaz is a journeyman, he sells fight but if he continues fighting top 10 ranked in his UFC division his losses will equal his win record.

If you look at the first fight against Diaz and Conor the first round Diaz was getting lit and his face was bloodied and Conor hit him with everything he can do and gassed out and then Nate Diaz continued with his pace and he kept on hitting Conor after the mid of second round and by that time Conor emptied his gas tank and went for the take down against a ground specialist and got chocked out instead .

[nydiacaskey01]

After winning against an inactive Ben Askren and a journeyman but popular Nate Diaz, Jorge Mashvidal feels like he needs to join the big money leagues. Mashvidal intends to fight Connor McGregor or Saul Alvarez in a boxing match. He can easily beat Connor and the guy is now inactive. Everybody in MMA wants Connor now because the guy is the cash cow in MMA. In a boxing match, superstar Saul Alvarez kills him, but maybe worth the risk as he can earn a $5 million payday.

I think UFC fighters are underpaid. Or is it boxing superstars overpaid?     

I don't think UFC fighters are underpaid, its just that boxing has been around for a long time and they have more fans and generates more pay per views subscriptions. If the number of PPV subscribers and fans can equal the fan base of boxing and PPV subscribers then maybe their (MMA fighters) pay will be higher. 

[YuginKadoya]

I am not particularly into this next fight but apparently I would like to see if there are here that are sure are, So this is regarding the

FIGHT NIGHT 163
Date: Sat, 9 Nov, 3:00 Am
Venue: CSKA Arena



MAIN CARD

Featherweight:                Zabit Magomedsharipov VS Calvin Kattar
Heavyweight:                  Alexander Volkov VS Greg Hardy
Welterweight:                  Zelim Imadaev VS Danny Roberts
Light Heavyweight:           Khadis Ibragimov VS Ed Herman
Welterweight:                  Ramazan Emeev VS Anthony Rocco Martin
Light Heavyweight:           Shamil Gamzatov VS Klidson Farias de Abreu
 
PRELIMINARY CARD

Light Heavyweight:           Magomed Ankalaev VS Dalcha Lungiambula
Welterweight:                  Rustam Khabilov VS Sergey Khandozhko
Middleweight:                  Roman Kopylov VS Karl Roberson
Welterweight:                  Abubakar Nurmagomedov VS David Zawada
Lightweight:                    Alexander Yakovlev VS Roosevelt Roberts
Woman Bantamweight:      Jessica-Rose Clark VS Pannie Kianzad
Bantamweight:                Grigory Popov VS Davey Grant


All info is from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Magomedsharipov_vs._Kattar

[bbc.reporter]

Nate has retired. Is this another scam from Nate and with the secret support from Dana? The skeptical me would say yes hehehe. I predict Nate will come back within 3 years for another MMA pump and dump.


“F**k a rematch this shit was over before it started. I’m goin on out on tour. Peace out fight game,” Diaz wrote.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/nate-diaz-says-goodbye-to-the-fight-game/

[Bttzed03]

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I think UFC fighters are underpaid. Or is it boxing superstars overpaid?      

For main event fights, UFC appears to be underpaid. For preliminaries, they are just about the same I think.

The difference is mainly down to the the organization on how much income the event will generate thru deals/sponsorships/PPV's.

I am not particularly into this next fight but apparently I would like to see if there are here that are sure are,
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So many unfamiliar names. I might skip this one and just watch the highlights.

Nate has retired. Is this another scam from Nate and with the secret support from Dana? The skeptical me would say yes hehehe. I predict Nate will come back within 3 years for another MMA pump and dump.
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He's obviously lying but it's probably a wise move. Just wait how things will turn out with Conor/Khabib/Jorge and pounce at the right time again.

[uray]

Nate has retired. Is this another scam from Nate and with the secret support from Dana? The skeptical me would say yes hehehe. I predict Nate will come back within 3 years for another MMA pump and dump.
“F**k a rematch this shit was over before it started. I’m goin on out on tour. Peace out fight game,” Diaz wrote.

Nate Diaz only wants big money fights and with the loss the only big fight he will be getting is the rematch between Conor McGregor and it all depends upon when Conor is planning to come back to fight again, Diaz made a lot of money and he will run out and will come back to fight again.

[YuginKadoya]

I am not particularly into this next fight but apparently I would like to see if there are here that are sure are,
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So many unfamiliar names. I might skip this one and just watch the highlights.

Yup! that was I though off but regarding the forum, I just want to update the latest game that is next on the 9th of November there might be other users here that have an eye or interested in some fighters in this FIGHT NIGHT 163 event, Well we can not know if there are aspiring fighters that are just starting to bloom and I think some well known also started as a knowbody, but I will not make a bet on this one but will surely make some speculation for Zabit Magomedsharipov and Calvin Kattar later.

[TopTort777]

I am not particularly into this next fight but apparently I would like to see if there are here that are sure are, So this is regarding the

Featherweight:                Zabit Magomedsharipov VS Calvin Kattar
Heavyweight:                  Alexander Volkov VS Greg Hardy
Welterweight:                  Abubakar Nurmagomedov VS David Zawada

I can advice you to watch only these 3 fight.

Zabit is making 13 wins in a raw. Seems that Kattar is going to be his 14th. 100% this will be a wrestling-like fight.

Volkov - Hardy - because they are the only heavyweights that night. Lets cheer for a brutal and nasty KO  Hardy - former NFL player and Volkov knows how to KO (20/30 of his wins are by KO). If the stars comes together that night, KO of the night award will be here.

Abubakar Nurmagomedov - cousin of Khabib Nurmagomedov. Hope he will show something interesting.

[ene1980]

Zabit is making 13 wins in a raw. Seems that Kattar is going to be his 14th. 100% this will be a wrestling-like fight.
Volkov - Hardy - because they are the only heavyweights that night. Lets cheer for a brutal and nasty KO  Hardy - former NFL player and Volkov knows how to KO (20/30 of his wins are by KO). If the stars comes together that night, KO of the night award will be here.
Abubakar Nurmagomedov - cousin of Khabib Nurmagomedov. Hope he will show something interesting.

Zabit Magomedsharipov is a real prospect in the division and i am expecting him to win the fight but Calvin Kattar is not an easy fight and i am expecting a good fight.
Greg Hardy is not a technical fighter but have heavy hands on the other hand Alexander Volkov is a technical fighter and i think Alexander Volkov can win the fight and Greg Hardy will gas out chasing him.
Abubakar Nurmagomedov, i have not seen his fight and hence i cannot tell anything about him even if he is the cousin of Khabib, if he has half the technical ability on the ground as Khabib then he will win the fight.