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February 12, 2020, 02:04:56 AM |
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Still more than three weeks away before the UFC 248 (Adesanya - Romero) but it's getting entertaining already with the promotion turning into some dance showdown. Enjoy the Romero back flip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxojNF_L0CEI really don't understand what's gotten into Adesanya for choosing to fight Romero. I mean he hasn't won in his last two or three fights and yet he's challenging for the title. For sure the other fighters who are more deserving are furious about this. Romero may be a really tough fighter and Adesanya is probably curious if he can knock the challenger out but this is still unfair to be honest. Cherry pick of course, Romero is a damage good already, used to be a monster in his prime but now he is old. And once Adensanya won, I'm sure lots of challenger are going to be in line. Maybe he just wanted to show his tools with an old and way past prime Romero. It's not about how curious he is in knocking his challenger, but to really look good in a win here.
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February 12, 2020, 02:56:19 AM |
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~ We saw a tired JJ that could get KO'ed from Reyes in any moment, we saw him that he is no longer in his prime for years now ~
No one can argue that he is not past his prime but tired and KO'ed at any moment? Come on now. Did you see how Reyes punches slowed down and was just swinging in the later rounds? Did you see how many times Jones just kept moving forward after getting hit?
~ Maybe the consistent pressure he gave (like what joe rogan said)? If that's the case then do you really believe it weighs greater than Reyes' tons of sharp punches he threw? You decide. But for me, nah I don't think so.
Part of the judging criteria was cage control and I don't remember one criteria having more weight than the other.
Although scoring is done round by round in the UFC, Reyes really fell short in rounds four and five. They call them championship rounds for a reason. When all the emotions are gone, we should probably watch the fight again and without all the commentaries. I watched the replay 2x (with commentaries) and round two, for me, was really won by Jones and the fourth and fifth. I also watched the replay yesterday. It strengthened my decision that Dominic Reyes won round 1, 2, and 3, however hehehe. I am also sad that Jonny Walker lost his last fight. He might be the one.
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February 12, 2020, 07:40:26 AM |
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The questions and doubts about the Adesanya-Romero fight for UFC 248 is understandable. I can only think of the Whittaker-Romero 2 as one reason why Israel decided to call him out. That fight was really great to watch and Romero got so close to becoming the champion.
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February 12, 2020, 09:50:58 AM |
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Adesanya should have faced Paolo Costa. According to UFC ranking is higher than Romero, and lower than Whittaker (who Adesanya KO'd). Paolo Costa is 13-1 right now. Last time found Romero this summer. Its obvious he should have been first contender to fight Adesanya. There is only 1 reason why Adesanya isn't fighting Costa - Costa was caught by United States Anti-Doping Agency several times. Maybe Dana doesn't want to face problems if Costa wins and later there will be found steroids in his blood. Or UFC Boss Dana White Urges Paulo Costa To Slow Down After Surgery.
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February 12, 2020, 10:48:37 AM |
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Adesanya should have faced Paolo Costa. According to is higher than Romero, and lower than Whittaker (who Adesanya KO'd). Paolo Costa was injured and so is the reason Israel Adesanya called out Yoel Romero and if you look at his fight against Paola Coasta and Robert Whittaker both were really close fights and you can make a decision that Romero won both those fights. Paolo Costa is 13-1 right now. Last time found Romero this summer. Its obvious he should have been first contender to fight Adesanya. According to the rankings that was the case but Paolo Costa is unable to take the fight and hence they put together the Romero fight. I thought he was injured rather than any steroid issue.
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February 12, 2020, 07:07:48 PM |
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other than the 3 judging panel what is the solution to rectify these problems as a win will change a fighters life and fortune so they need to sort this out soon. There are many options thrown like open scoring with experienced fighters and having a 5 judging panel rather than having 3 judges, from my perspective i want to see the athletic commission to make sure the incompetent judges should not allowed to judge again as there were many shitty decisions in the past and the decisions from UFC 247 has brought back the topic once again because of the score card the judges scored for the entire fight card with many dubious decisions in many fights.
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Time to move on guys. Let's just hope Reyes gets an immediate rematch... I kinda doubt that's gonna happen tho. Jones' next fight will be the winner the next event... Date: Saturday, February 15 Main Card (ESPN): 21:00 EST Preliminary Card (ESPN): 18:00 EST Venue: Santa Ana Star Center, Rio Rancho, New Mexico Live Streams: http://crackstreams.com/mma/2/ Main Card (ESPN+)Light Heavyweight: Corey Anderson vs Jan Błachowicz Welterweight: Diego Sanchez vs Michel Pereira Women's Flyweight: Montana De La Rosa vs Mara Romero Borella Lightweight: Brok Weaver vs Kazula Vargas Flyweight: Rogério Bontorin vs Ray Borg Lightweight: Lando Vannata vs Yancy Medeiros Preliminary Card (ESPN+)Welterweight: Tim Means vs Daniel Rodriguez Bantamweight: John Dodson vs Nathaniel Wood Lightweight: Jim Miller vs Scott Holtzman Light Heavyweight: Devin Clark vs Dequan Townsend Bantamweight: Casey Kenney vs Merab Dvalishvili Women's Bantamweight: Macy Chiasson vs Shanna Young Flyweight: Mark De La Rosa vs Raulian Paiva
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February 14, 2020, 02:45:26 PM |
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Quite amazed that Diego Sanchez is still active. Remember him from first season of Ultimate Fighter. Last time I've seen him in action was the fight against B.J. Penn and Diegos cut... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fthemaclife.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2F033114-UFC-diego-sanchez-looks-on-ahn-PI.vresize.1200.675.high_.9.jpg&t=665&c=MhtRE1UNj17cgg) His opponent - Michel Pereira seems same style and experience guy. This is gonna be a very close with with slight advantage of Pereire. Btw Corey Anderson believes in himself to much as he says " HAPPY JON JONES WON AT UFC 247: ‘I GET TO BE THE ONE TO DETHRONE HIM’". Also the winner of Anderson-Blachowicz fight will be the first contender to face Jones. (Frankly, both done have much chances against him. The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo).
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February 14, 2020, 03:34:08 PM |
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Quite amazed that Diego Sanchez is still active. Remember him from first season of Ultimate Fighter.
That was a long time ago but I still remember that too. It's already good to see him still active but even more impressive is him being part of the co-main event. He hasn't really evolved since his younger years as a fighter. Still the same slugger but probably not as tough physically as before. Every fighter in that division wants to have that bragging rights. He shouldn't take his eyes off his opponent. The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo). Why? Because of the drugs involved in their second fight? Even though Jones kind of cheated, I wouldn't consider that as a win for DC also.
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^ ^ Corey Anderson is also mad as f**k at the UFC (for not giving him fair treatment). Between those two, I'll be rooting for him to face Jones next. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 14, 2020, 05:51:24 PM Last edit: February 14, 2020, 06:02:00 PM by eaLiTy |
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Time to move on guys. Let's just hope Reyes gets an immediate rematch... I kinda doubt that's gonna happen tho. Jones' next fight will be the winner the next event... I am also not expected an immediate rematch for Reyes and in the fight i am expecting Corey Anderson to win the fight because he won the first fight against Jan Błachowicz and i am expecting the same this time around and i was impressed with the last fight of Corey Anderson against Johnny Walker.
My prediction for the event are. Macy Chiasson vs Shanna Young: Macy Chiasson Corey Anderson vs Jan Błachowicz: Corey Anderson There are some old generation fighters in this card like Diego Sanchez (41 fights), Tim Means (41 fights), John Dodson(31 fights) and Jim Miller(44 fights) which means a combined fights of 157 fights which is really crazy and taxing on their body and i have no idea how they will perform.
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February 14, 2020, 08:51:18 PM |
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The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo). Why? Because of the drugs involved in their second fight? Even though Jones kind of cheated, I wouldn't consider that as a win for DC also. I think DC was the only one who had real chances of beating Jones. Ok, except Reyes, dont know much about this guy. But if to compare DC and Reyes records, DC won more elite fighters than Reyes. Would be nice to see DC vs Reyes, to find out who is right, but to bad DC is aiming to make a third fight agains Miocic and that is going to be his last fight in career.
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I think DC was the only one who had real chances of beating Jones. Ok, except Reyes, dont know much about this guy. But if to compare DC and Reyes records, DC won more elite fighters than Reyes. Would be nice to see DC vs Reyes, to find out who is right, but to bad DC is aiming to make a third fight agains Miocic and that is going to be his last fight in career.
I disagree with you when i comes to Daniel Cormier as both the fights were not even close, in the first fight he completely dominated them Daniel Cormier and in the rematch he finished him and hence it was not even a close fight. Alexander Gustafsson was his first close fight and then now we have Dominick Reyes who was really close in defeating him, the rest of the fights were not even close. If Jon Jones moves to heavyweight division then it is a different ball game altogether.
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The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo). Why? Because of the drugs involved in their second fight? Even though Jones kind of cheated, I wouldn't consider that as a win for DC also. I think DC was the only one who had real chances of beating Jones. Ok, except Reyes, dont know much about this guy. But if to compare DC and Reyes records, DC won more elite fighters than Reyes. Would be nice to see DC vs Reyes, to find out who is right, but to bad DC is aiming to make a third fight agains Miocic and that is going to be his last fight in career. There was also Jon versus the Mauler Alexander Gustafsson 1. Many fans and analysts have also said that they would accept a decision for Gustafsson if it was made. Part 2 was Jon's dominance shown, however. I reckon we would witness something similar for Jon versus Dominic Reyes 2 hehehee.
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February 15, 2020, 03:47:52 AM |
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The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo). Why? Because of the drugs involved in their second fight? Even though Jones kind of cheated, I wouldn't consider that as a win for DC also. I think DC was the only one who had real chances of beating Jones. Ok, except Reyes, dont know much about this guy. But if to compare DC and Reyes records, DC won more elite fighters than Reyes. Would be nice to see DC vs Reyes, to find out who is right, but to bad DC is aiming to make a third fight agains Miocic and that is going to be his last fight in career. I agree, Jones vs DC is not even close, and Jones did beat DC on his game, which is wrestling. And as pointed out by @bbc.reporter, Alexander Gustafsson I. I think majority thought that Alexander really won that fight, however the rematch was very different, perhaps it took 5 years in the making. Damn, Diego Sanchez still fighting in 2020?
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The only 1 who was able to stop Jones was DC imo). Why? Because of the drugs involved in their second fight? Even though Jones kind of cheated, I wouldn't consider that as a win for DC also. I think DC was the only one who had real chances of beating Jones. Ok, except Reyes, dont know much about this guy. But if to compare DC and Reyes records, DC won more elite fighters than Reyes. Would be nice to see DC vs Reyes, to find out who is right, but to bad DC is aiming to make a third fight agains Miocic and that is going to be his last fight in career. Oh really, how sad to know ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) but I hope he will change his decision and decide to fight Bones for the very last time. I also think he is the closest fighter to defeat Jon (aside from Reyes) because we all see how he able to land punches on him despite of height disadvantage. Hello! He able to knocked out a bigger man like Miocic so it's not impossible for him to do the same thing against him ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . He only need a very accurate timing to enter against that "eye poking" stance and land a devastating shot lol. Another one I'm rooting for is Gustaffsson. He is tall but I'm worrying that he is not the same as before. I still remember how Bones crushed him in their rematch and I think same thing will happen in their next face off (I find him slower now IMO).
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Here are the weigh ins for one of the three filler events before the big one with Adesanya vs Romero. Can't wait for that one. And I kinda fear for Adesanya... UFC FN 167: Weigh Inshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgczV5K14Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6Ekof5mggCorey Anderson (205) vs. Jan Blachowicz (206) Michel Pereira (170) vs. Diego Sanchez (171) Mara Romero Borella (125) vs. Montana De La Rosa (126) Kazula Vargas (156) vs. Brok Weaver (156) Rogerio Bontorin (126) vs. Ray Borg (128)** Yancy Medeiros (155) vs. Lando Vannata (156) Tim Means (171) vs. Daniel Rodriguez (171) John Dodson (133.5) vs. Nathaniel Wood (136) Scott Holtzman (156) vs. Jim Miller (156) Devin Clark (205) vs. Dequan Townsend (202) Merab Dvalishvili (136) vs. Casey Kenney (135.5) Macy Chiasson (135) vs. Shanna Young (134) Mark De La Rosa (126) vs. Raulian Paiva (126) ** Missed weight
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We should all move on with the Jon Jones and Dominic Reyes issue for now and I'd say that decision outcome might have something under it but that is all in the past and we should be moving into another topic,
Corey Anderson vs Jan Błachowicz
Well, this matchup is not that interesting in my opinion but putting a bet will surely increase that interest of yours in analyzing the fighters, and I think that Jan Blachowicz doesn't level that much since their last fight and Corey Anderson is staying in the winning streak department but I think most matches are on the decision outcome because Corey Anderson likely holds a 62% winning rate all on Decisions so this match may end up the same as that.
I am picking Corey Anderson to win via Decisions 2.50 but Jan Blachowicz is not easy to finish but this fight is a tough one for Blachowicz because Corey Anderson is likely to stop your momentum and rhythm with takedowns and strikes.
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I am picking Corey Anderson to win via Decisions 2.50 but Jan Blachowicz is not easy to finish but this fight is a tough one for Blachowicz because Corey Anderson is likely to stop your momentum and rhythm with takedowns and strikes. This is what i was expecting after watching their first fight but it was completely the opposite and Jan Błachowicz slept Corey Anderson with a perfectly timed left hook in the very first round and Jan Błachowicz immediately called out Jon Jones who is ring side and we might see Jon Jones defending his title against Jan Błachowicz.
This is the first time i saw two disqualification in a fight card Michel Pereira was winning the fight against Diego Sanchez but the illegal blow gave the win to Diego Sanchez and that was the case with Rodrigo Vargas who was dominated the fight till he fired the illegal blow and Brok Weaver was given the victory. Crazy fights with two disqualifications and Jan Błachowicz winnings by knockout in the first round which i did not expect.
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~ This is the first time i saw two disqualification in a fight card Michel Pereira was winning the fight against Diego Sanchez but the illegal blow gave the win to Diego Sanchez ~
Luck is on Diego Sanchez I guess. That means he lives on to fight for another paycheck ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Crazy fights with two disqualifications and Jan Błachowicz winnings by knockout in the first round which i did not expect.
This is what happens when you start thinking about fighting Jon Jones while your opponent is focused on beating you. Serves him right. It's a valuable lesson for all fighters.
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