Did we actually really land on moon?

[notbatman]

@BADecker,

   that's the most epic display of mental gymnastics I've ever witnessed. However, either the beaker contains a non-zero quantity of compressed air or outer space is a hoax.

[BADecker]

@BADecker,

   that's the most epic display of mental gymnastics I've ever witnessed. However, either the beaker contains a non-zero quantity of compressed air or outer space is a hoax.

Well, thank you. But that's just standard for me.

Back when I was in grade school, things like 1+1=2, or 2*2=4, were real difficult for me. I whized through the trig and calculus. It was only later that my teachers realized that I couldn't think in simple ways.

Someday I might be able to get down to your level enough so that I can help you understand. But until that day, you just won't get it.

The beaker is hypothetical, so it will never have or not have compressed air in it.

[notbatman]

^^^ I believe what I can prove and take the rest into consideration.

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21, KJV

Now since you insist that I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't science, how about you explain how a pressurized atmosphere exists next to a torr 10^-17 vacuum without a barrier and show everybody how ignorant I am?

[Spendulus]

^^^ I believe what I can prove and take the rest into consideration.

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21, KJV

Now since you insist that I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't science, how about you explain how a pressurized atmosphere exists next to a torr 10^-17 vacuum without a barrier and show everybody how ignorant I am?

I thought we were discussing the level and amount of the huge piles of shit produced by two mile high Titans who built the dome over the flat Earth. You were arguing it was no more than a few thousand year accumulation, and I was arguing it was many millions of years of accumulation.

Also you never answered how the 32 mile long Moon could move around inside the dome. I know we can see about 59% of it's surface, not 50%. That seems to indicate it's spherical, doesn't it? Does an airplane carry the 32 mile long Moon around? It's pretty big even for those Titans.

[notbatman]

^^^ The Sun, Moon and stars (planets are stars) are projected lights reflecting off of the domes reflective nickel-iron oxide (gold coloured) surface; they are not physical objects.

"Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?" -- Job 37:18, KJV

"Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?" -- Job 37:18, ESV

"can you, like Him, spread out the skies to reflect the heat like a mirror of bronze?" -- Job 37:18, BSB



These fell out of the sky:


Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel_(meteorite)


Image source: https://futurism.com/the-alvord-meteorite

[BADecker]

^^^ I believe what I can prove and take the rest into consideration.

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21, KJV

Now since you insist that I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't science, how about you explain how a pressurized atmosphere exists next to a torr 10^-17 vacuum without a barrier and show everybody how ignorant I am?

Where did someone say that you are "a fucking idiot who doesn't science?" And what does it mean to "science?"

You are the only one that I know of to suggest something like "a pressurized atmosphere" existing "next to a torr 10^-17 vacuum without a barrier." What does that have to do with landing on the moon, or anything else? Possibly some sci-fi jokers write about something like that in their books. Or somebody who is looking for the supernatural might think about it. Or some scientist might have figured out something that could be scientifically like that. But you are the only one who I have seen talk about it. Why do you?


Now, slow down and read the following while thinking about it.

At the hardware store you can get some square tubing made out of steel or brass or even plastic. Imagine that you have a length of 1-inch square tubing that is 20 miles long, and that is standing on end, with its base being at sea level, and its top reaching straight up into the sky. The tube width/diameter covers one square inch.

At the bottom of the tube, air in the tube is at air pressure at sea level... about 14.7 pounds per square inch. At the top of the tube, the air pressure is so small that it is essentially not measurable. From the base of the tube, as you move upwards, the air pressure gradually drops off from the 14.7psi to the negligible air pressure at the top.

Now, let's say that you took all the air in the tube, and compressed it down into a one cubic inch container. How much would the air in that container weigh? The answer is approximately 14.7 pounds.

In other words, the reason why air pressure is 14.7psi at sea level is because all the weight of the air, in a 1-sq-inch column is 14.7 pounds.

All the "layers" of air are resting on each other, from the surface of the earth on upward. All the air above the sea-level-surface is resting on the sea-level-surface. One square inch width of a column of air weighs 14.7 pounds.

But there would be no air pressure if their wasn't weight. We measure the weight by something we call gravity, or gravitational force. That we know of, all material is affected by gravity, and we can measure the gravity force according to its mass, but only when it is near enough to another mass that it is gravitationally affected by that other mass.


Now, can we please get back to the idea of having landed on the moon or not?

[Spendulus]

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These fell out of the sky:

Sez who?

[notbatman]

If outer space is a hoax as proven by the fact non-zero pressure can not exist next to a vacuum and, the fact the Moon is measured to be 32 nautical miles wide at a height of 3440 nautical miles and, the observation that the Moon is a projected light then, the claim that a select group of men, Masons who are homosexuals sworn to secrecy and to protect their brother Masons and the Jew, could not have walked on the Moon.



@Spendulus, try a reverse image Google search. I can assure you they fell out of the sky.

If chunks of damacus-like steel, a manufactured material fall out of the sky on a regular basis, what do you figure that chances are that the sky is made out of metal?

[Spendulus]

If outer space is a hoax as proven by the fact non-zero pressure can not exist next to a vacuum and, the fact the Moon is measured to be 32 nautical miles wide at a height of 3440 nautical miles and, the observation that the Moon is a projected light then, the claim that a select group of men, Masons who are homosexuals sworn to secrecy and to protect their brother Masons and the Jew, could not have walked on the Moon.



@Spendulus, try a reverse image Google search. I can assure you they fell out of the sky.

If chunks of damacus-like steel, a manufactured material fall out of the sky on a regular basis, what do you figure that chances are that the sky is made out of metal?

You made the claim, you support it. Your assurances are noted.

Also it's against forum policy to post without attribution.

You been warned.

[notbatman]

Fuck you.

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These fell out of the sky:


Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel_(meteorite)


Image source: https://futurism.com/the-alvord-meteorite
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[BADecker]

Fuck you.

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These fell out of the sky:


Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel_(meteorite)


Image source: https://futurism.com/the-alvord-meteorite
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If they really did fall out of the sky, there are any number of ways that such might have happened... juggling mishap, out of an airplane, shot from a cannon, dropped off the side of a mountain, blown out of an erupting volcano, etc.

[Spendulus]

Fuck you.

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These fell out of the sky:


Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel_(meteorite)


Image source: https://futurism.com/the-alvord-meteorite
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Okay, thank you for posting the source of the image. These are indeed very interesting. I agree with you they fell from the sky. And fuck you too.

As the source articles note, the features could not have been produced on Earth. Geologists can instantly rattle off stuff like that.

Incidentally, that is likely the best proof that we have gone to the moon. The rocks that were brought back, some 842 pounds of them, show features that cannot have been made on Earth.

In response to your assertion that these may have formed part of the dome over the flat earth, I don't see any really useful construction activity based on these rocks. Do you have any obviously-construction-materials that fell from the sky that could be attributed to the Dome?

You know, stuff found on the job site. Monster rivets, empty Titan sized beer cans?Possibly, remnants of a Titan sized doobie tossed after they buzzed out?

Now that would be a real BC bud sized hammer, because those T's were like 2 miles high? That's pretty high....

Today's average 5 foot high stunted growth stoner today might at best, hell on Christmas he might do an eight inch giggle stick of hippie lettuce, so assuming your Titans are equal in toke, that's a quarter mile long doobie, dude.

By the time they tossed it, it might be MAYBE the size of a ten story FBI building. We're talking a 150 foot roach? Man, I ain't never seen a skunk weed goober longer than an inch. And here, you know we talking good shit.

Can you direct us to that Mother Load of really good shit?

[notbatman]

Iron comes from blood.

[Spendulus]

Iron comes from blood.

Iron comes from stars, first generation were just h2, fusion over and over led to iron's existence. then supernova.

What are we in, the fourth generation of stars?

Iron is interesting. Now let's hear about that giant doobie. Are you holding back on us?

If anyone would know where that stash was it'd be you.

[notbatman]

"we just need another $10 billion in gibs, we'll make fusion power a reality in less than 10 years!" they just keep repeating that slogan every decade.

Two Weeks™, do you see where I'm going with this?

Haven't you noticed that stars all move as a group around a central point? They're small points of light no more than a few thousand miles away. Heavy giant flaming balls of fire in the sky is science fiction, and fusion power is a scam and a fraud.

[Spendulus]

"we just need another $10 billion in gibs, we'll make fusion power a reality in less than 10 years!" they just keep repeating that slogan every decade.

Two Weeks™, do you see where I'm going with this?

Nope, or maybe I do and it's nowhere.

Where'd you stash that 150 foot long duper, dude?

Just think. Produce it and I'll believe the Titan story.

[notbatman]

The average man has 4 grams of iron in his blood. http://www.irondisorders.org/how-much-iron-is-in-the-body/ According to Wikipedia, the average British longsword was between 1.1 and 1.8 kg. We'll use 1.45, the median value. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword Also according to Wikipedia, the carbon content of steel is anywhere between .002% and 2.1%. Averaged, the carbon percentage of steel is 1.051%, though I doubt the percentage was anything approaching consistent (if anyone has better numbers for that please share). http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel So 1.45kg - (1.45kg * 1.051%) = 1.4347605kg of iron in the average longsword. At .004kg of iron in the average man, and assuming complete iron extraction from each corpse, forging a sword from blood-iron would have taken 358.69, or 359 dead men (far fewer than I expected, frankly).

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/upl6i

[Spendulus]

.....At .004kg of iron in the average man, and assuming complete iron extraction from each corpse, forging a sword from blood-iron would have taken 358.69, or 359 dead men (far fewer than I expected, frankly).

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/upl6i
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That's really far far too complicated. Just get some old leaf springs, set up a fire and start hammering.

If that's not good enough, then I suggest a careful extraction of iron from that skyscraper size doobie you are hiding. That weed has iron, see. All plants do. When they lose iron, they turn yellow. There's your iron. All you need.

Now stop trying to change the subject. I know it's hard.

[virtualx]

What makes me believe it the most is the fact that the moon landing was a race between several countries, biggest countries at the time and somehow conspirators think the USA was able to fake it in such a way that they fooled entire nations to believe them? And somehow now years later some youtube idiots were able to find out? Seems quite improbable.

Very true. The race then was between Russia and the USA. I believe Kennedy was the president back then, when the Russians sent Yuri Garin to space. In Kennedy's desire to show the world that America wasn't lagging behind either , I believe that's how the conspiracy theory came about. Because nobody had envisaged a moon landing so early in the race.

[notbatman]

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That's really far far too complicated. Just get some old leaf springs, set up a fire and start hammering.

If that's not good enough, then I suggest a careful extraction of iron from that skyscraper size doobie you are hiding. That weed has iron, see. All plants do. When they lose iron, they turn yellow. There's your iron. All you need.

Now stop trying to change the subject. I know it's hard.

No, no it's not too far off topic, there is no "shut it down" now.

The Moon is a small, close light projected off of a mirrored steel alloy dome. You wanted to know the source of the iron in the dome and it's blood.

You reject this and say iron comes from the hot fusion inside stars that are suns that are heavy balls millions & billions of miles wide, and billions & trillions of miles distant, and these massive thermonuclear bombs that never stop exploding are held aloft by a theoretical force (relativistic gravity) that can't be proven and in fact has been falsified (Sagnac-D&P 1939). This magic force that has been experimentally falsified at the University of France in 1939, you claim also powers an un-provable physical chain reaction (hot fusion; "just give us another $10 billion dollars and 10 more years") that produces the iron that somehow makes its way to our Earth that you claim is a sphere with a pressurized atmosphere on its surface that's spinning in a vacuum.

Unfortunately (for your rebuttal) stars, much like the Moon are close, small projected lights and the iron that's in our blood, that comes from the plants we eat, doesn't come from lights in the sky. It's ultimately produced by a process called... can you guess?