Did we actually really land on moon?

[Spendulus]

^^^ Well, I don't have to ask why you refuse to acknowledge that the horizon is crated by the angular resolution limit of the "eye" being used; Earth curvature falsified....

>>> garbage pictures deleted

There could be multiple reasons why the horizon is seen by the eye.

A) earth curvature
B) hilly terrain
C) rising terrain
D) massive clouds of locusts or angry bees creating an apparent horizon
E) In the ocean while sailing, synchronized jumping of millions of fish into the air at the same time
F) A giant tsunami coming toward you hundreds of feet high, either on land or water
G) Massive flows of molten lava from deep underground create a horizon that moves toward you that you want to move away from
H) A giant mess of dirt and former civilization coming toward you, formed by the impact of a 300 meter wide asteroid a thousand miles away.

But this one is my favorite.
I) Place a row of girls in bikinis some distance away, and however far away they are, 5, 10 50 or 100 feet, that's the horizon.


None of these involve the angular resolution limit of the human eye.

....Do all three sides of a triangle add up to 180 degrees, hell yes....

What if you measured the three corners and they didn't add to 180? What would you do?

[BADecker]

....Do all three sides of a triangle add up to 180 degrees, hell yes....

What if you measured the three corners and they didn't add to 180? What would you do?

I know what he'd do. He'd flatten the earth out so that they WOULD add up to 180 degrees.

 

[Spendulus]

....Do all three sides of a triangle add up to 180 degrees, hell yes....

What if you measured the three corners and they didn't add to 180? What would you do?

I know what he'd do. He'd flatten the earth out so that they WOULD add up to 180 degrees.

 

But why? Even on a flat earth, there could be a big mound. Maybe a giant mound which was the burial mound of thousand of years of millions of FlatEarthers. You wouldn't want to disturb such a thing, unless they rose up, zombie like.

So because of hilly terrain, I do think three D trig and the 180 degree triangle issue must be considered.

And since we've got to stop those zombie hordes, the accuracy provided by 3d trig ballistics targeting is very important. Our tank and howitzer crews are ready to fight the zombies, but they can't do it with just their eyeballs.

[BADecker]

....Do all three sides of a triangle add up to 180 degrees, hell yes....

What if you measured the three corners and they didn't add to 180? What would you do?

I know what he'd do. He'd flatten the earth out so that they WOULD add up to 180 degrees.

 

But why? Even on a flat earth, there could be a big mound. Maybe a giant mound which was the burial mound of thousand of years of millions of FlatEarthers. You wouldn't want to disturb such a thing, unless they rose up, zombie like.

So because of hilly terrain, I do think three D trig and the 180 degree triangle issue must be considered.

And since we've got to stop those zombie hordes, the accuracy provided by 3d trig ballistics targeting is very important. Our tank and howitzer crews are ready to fight the zombies, but they can't do it with just their eyeballs.

That's kinda a secondary point. Nothing that we know of is flat. Everything, macro or micro, winds up being spheres, globes, or some other shape. Nothing is flat. When you view flat water under a microscope, it isn't really flat. The flat glass slide you view the flat water on isn't really flat... if you magnify it enough. Everything has humps and low points, mountains and valleys. Flat earth isn't flat anywhere.

The point is, the FE people have been duped into the idea of flat earth. Whatever the shape of the earth, it certainly isn't flat. And given all the liquids that attempt to form themselves into a sort-of spherical shape when tossed into the air, even if there was a dome, the water outside it would be a big sphere. So the earth would be a big sphere inside it.

Since this simple point alone shows that FE people are all mixed up, let's get on with reasons why NASA wouldn't want us to see the real videos of their moon landings, and would have stage-created some videos that were specifically faked for the public.

[WackMack]

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

[notbatman]

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

Sounds like a scam for gullible investors to me.

[Spendulus]

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

Sounds like a scam for gullible investors to me.

Was the rocket to be pointed up, or down?

[akram143]

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

Sounds like a scam for gullible investors to me.

People came up with new idea to scam the noobs calling themselves as crypto investors.

[BADecker]

there was also an ico project to raise funds for a rocket to see what the earth really is. who knows what end?

Sounds like a scam for gullible investors to me.

People came up with new idea to scam the noobs calling themselves as crypto investors.

Now, let's get back to landing on the moon.


Fake Libra Peddlers LOL-Swarm Facebook for Discount Crypto Scam

Numerous fake accounts, groups, and pages operated by fraudsters have swamped Facebook and Instagram to mispresent themselves as the official hubs for the social media giant's upcoming Libra crypto, the Washington Post reported today.

Despite Libra's expected launch in 2020, a part of the scammers are already selling Facebook's crypto for a reduced price, taking visitors to fraudulent third-party websites, the news outlet reported.

After the Washington Post alerted the company, Facebook has taken steps and removed a number of the fakes.

"Facebook removes ads and pages that violate our policies when we become aware of them, and we are constantly working to improve detection of scams on our platforms," Facebook spokeswoman Elka Looks stated.

Scammers are scaling their operations

According to the Washington Post, the fake Facebook and Instagram accounts have hundreds of real or fake followers. The fakes have already started to spread to other social media platforms, such as YouTube or Twitter, which could be a sign that the incident is already falling out of Facebook's hands.

Watch the videos at the website.

[Clutch_Jones]

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

[iamsheikhadil]

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

That's a good analysis.

I guess it's more of a complicated statement because when the president said they were going to the moon by that decade, the reputation of the president were to be also saved which is also a major reason I feel now that they wouldn't fake such a thing.

I wonder if they had that technologies back then and didn't make it public, what technologies they have now which aren't public yet ?!

[mersal]

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Well framed question.

Amazing it fits the same premise of "Who built the Egyptian Pyramids"?
Who constructed the Megalithic structures?
How did they cut round hole saw type holes through solid granite,
fit and polish to perfection such large weighty massive rocks.?

How did they build the Hoover Dam?
The Technologies, alloys, math, fabrics etc developed to attain that Moon goal
were not publicly available in the 1960's which was really not that long ago.
The Russians sent a Man in space, this is clear and the rocket technologies did exist.
The Russians also had the technologies to verify if the USA did actually succeed in that moon mission,
otherwise they could have made a laughing stock out of America's lofty achievements.
The relics are still there and can be seen...

The cutting edge of medicine, tech, space exploration etc is so far advanced
at this day people will wonder how they were achievable a hundred years from now.

But I didn't found no explanation for the moving flags on moon while they landed on 1969.

BTW we passed 50 years of that scenario on July 20 2019.

[earlyfacer]

We went!

We the people weren't shown the real operation.

Consider. Back before NASA became NASA, we had a method for going to Mars and Saturn and back in, say, 5 years. But nobody knew about it, and relatively few people know about it today. If Government can cover something like this up from people even knowing about it, think about the fact that they used it way back then, and we still don't know about it.

It was tested, and shown to work.

To the Stars by Atom Bomb:

Imagine it's July 20, 1969 and no one is paying much attention as Neil Armstrong sets foot on the Moon, because all eyes are on the first manned mission to reach Saturn. That may sound absurd, but while NASA was figuring out how to use rockets to reach the Moon, a super secret US government project was developing a gigantic reusable spaceship powered by atom bomb explosions that was designed to carry a crew of 20 to the outer Solar System by 1970 as a first step to the stars. New Atlas looks at the story behind the original Orion Project.

the picture says it all that we have landed, no Photoshop that time.

[mersal]

We went!

We the people weren't shown the real operation.

Consider. Back before NASA became NASA, we had a method for going to Mars and Saturn and back in, say, 5 years. But nobody knew about it, and relatively few people know about it today. If Government can cover something like this up from people even knowing about it, think about the fact that they used it way back then, and we still don't know about it.

It was tested, and shown to work.

To the Stars by Atom Bomb:

Imagine it's July 20, 1969 and no one is paying much attention as Neil Armstrong sets foot on the Moon, because all eyes are on the first manned mission to reach Saturn. That may sound absurd, but while NASA was figuring out how to use rockets to reach the Moon, a super secret US government project was developing a gigantic reusable spaceship powered by atom bomb explosions that was designed to carry a crew of 20 to the outer Solar System by 1970 as a first step to the stars. New Atlas looks at the story behind the original Orion Project.

the picture says it all that we have landed, no Photoshop that time.

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

Nasa is the one who created idea for photoshop.

[bkbirge]

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

[mersal]

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

[bkbirge]

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

100's of thousands of people worked on this project for 15+ years, if there had been a conspiracy it would have been revealed by them, or by the many outside observers. The people who question the validity of the moon landings are using magical thinking devoid of rationality, take data wildly out of context to prove unrelated 'points', and rely far more on appeal to false authority than not. Fun fact: youtube is not a research database.

But there was a movie directed in the same or previous year about landing on the moon and people claiming that the actual moon landing similar to that movie set.

It's totally true, Stanley Kubrick was contracted by NASA to make the movie of the moon landings but since he's such a perfectionist he demanded that it be filmed on location.

Any explanation for this from NASA.

All they say was why we need to lie such thing even if we do USSR might capture that we are lying.Logical but not a proof for that they landed.

100's of thousands of people worked on this project for 15+ years, if there had been a conspiracy it would have been revealed by them, or by the many outside observers. The people who question the validity of the moon landings are using magical thinking devoid of rationality, take data wildly out of context to prove unrelated 'points', and rely far more on appeal to false authority than not. Fun fact: youtube is not a research database.

Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

They did send more men after the first landing in 1969. 5 more missions after the first landed on the moon.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo.html

As to why we stopped going after 1972 the answer is clear, Congress did not want to fund it anymore, the public in general lost interest. Even now there are a lot of people that think scientific research and/or learning to live off planet are unnecessary expenditures, they'd rather we spend more money on military or welfare or their own tax benefit.

[Spendulus]

....
Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

Technology doesn't work that way.

Taking a wild guess here I'll suggest that while computer tech is billions of times superior to that of 1969, rocket technology maybe 1.1 - 1.2x improved. It's like asking how improved are the passenger jets of  1969 compared to those of today.

On the question of "did we land on the moon," this wikipedia article may be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

[romero121]

Chandrayaan-2 an Indian lunar mission is calculated to reach the moon by August 20. It is mentioned that the mission for moon by India was fifteen times less expensive than the one launched by NASA. Already Chandrayaan-1 is launched in 2008, here days after August 20 we can get more details about the surface of the moon. If lucky we'll get to see the flag that's been tied by USA on moon. Lol  

[notbatman]

....
Could be really happened but why they didn't send any men after that first landing on the moon in 1969,it would have been a tourist spot in 2019 if they did that with the technology in 1969.

Technology doesn't work that way.

Taking a wild guess here I'll suggest that while computer tech is billions of times superior to that of 1969, rocket technology maybe 1.1 - 1.2x improved. It's like asking how improved are the passenger jets of  1969 compared to those of today.

On the question of "did we land on the moon," this wikipedia article may be of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

"...The detection on Earth of reflections from laser ranging retro-reflectors (LRRRs, or mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on Lunar Laser Ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

"...The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Spendy, how do you explain this contradiction? They were bouncing lasers off the Moon almost a decade before the first Moon landing hoax.