Did we actually really land on moon?

[Rikafip]

Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.

Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory (e.g. reason why Soviets never tried to debunk moon landing is because they were actually in  cahoots with Americans) to back it up.

[Spendulus]

Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.

Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory...

What?

Moon landing deniers are all Democrats?

[BADecker]

Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.

Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory (e.g. reason why Soviets never tried to debunk moon landing is because they were actually in  cahoots with Americans) to back it up.

Anyone who uses the argument that "Russia was working with the USA" as a reason to deny the moon landings, doesn't realize that Russia always has reasons for doing things that it does. These reasons are both, independent of the USA, and unknown. Nobody knows the tangle of thinking in the minds of the Russian leaders. A Russian/American conspiracy is not a reason to accept or deny moon landings.

What?

Moon landing deniers are all Democrats?

Actually, many Democrats, who are down-to-earth supporters of the Democrat party, don't like what the Democrat leaders are promoting. Many are fed up with the stupidity of their leaders, but don't know what to do about it. Loads of them are starting to embrace other parties.

[vickismith713]

Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin

[BADecker]

Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin

When we aren't in their club, that's what makes their club a private thing. It's based in the laws that separate public and private. As long as we are public, government can use its policing powers to regulate us. But as long as they are private, their own privacy laws protect them from us, the public.

When people do things in the privacy of their own home - like smoking weed - and government steps in and arrests them, government is acting illegally. The reason why government wins in court is that the people don't know enough law to use the government's own laws against it.

Introducing the Private Membership Association (PMA). The PMA is written agreements regarding the privacy of the PMA organization. This formally brings it out of the public and into the private. The government has no authority except where someone is literally being harmed, and even then, government has to show the harm in court, or it can be penalized.

DuckDuckGo search on "private membership association."
Youtube search on "private membership association."

Get the Constitution, Amendments, and the (at least) 70 Supreme Court cases that show that government has to keep its fingers out of the Private Membership Association. Become private like the government club, and become free.

[Spendulus]

Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin

There are detailed technical documents on perhaps a hundred thousand components of the US Apollo missions, millions of pages. It would have been impossible to fake all that.

Every lunar soil and rock sample is archived and full datasets available.

The rocks are obviously not from Earth. Any 2nd year geology student can tell that, and anyone else with a half hour of training.

Where did they come from?

[Magkirap]

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

I think it will be true if the flight was documented in detailed. I get your point about computer, probably you are thinking how to they lauch a rocket in space going to the moon if our computers are not so advance. I don't think there was another way to do it without using computers. That is why I believe that they just shoot it in a location here in Earth that is like the surface of moon. After years, maybe they can able to go to the moon and just gather information and added documentation about their flight and to the moon itself.

[tsaroz]

Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

I think it will be true if the flight was documented in detailed. I get your point about computer, probably you are thinking how to they lauch a rocket in space going to the moon if our computers are not so advance. I don't think there was another way to do it without using computers. That is why I believe that they just shoot it in a location here in Earth that is like the surface of moon. After years, maybe they can able to go to the moon and just gather information and added documentation about their flight and to the moon itself.

It was not much about the computer. Computer is still not a huge thing for spaceflights.
It's metallurgy and Physics mostly, it's about speed and angles. I was too first suspicious how they were able to land on moon back then but has not rocket to reach moon now.
US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

[Spendulus]

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US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

We'll be back in 2024.

[bkbirge]

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US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

We'll be back in 2024.

Hopefully to stay this time.

[inanilujimi]

sometimes what is reported by the media is not in line with the facts.
for me humans landed in the moon is just a joke circulating, like the human theory that comes from the apes that does not make sense to me.
if humans from monkeys, why do monkeys still exist until now and have not evolved to become human ??

[bkbirge]

sometimes what is reported by the media is not in line with the facts.
for me humans landed in the moon is just a joke circulating, like the human theory that comes from the apes that does not make sense to me.
if humans from monkeys, why do monkeys still exist until now and have not evolved to become human ??

Cool story bro, thanks for sharing your insight. 

[Spendulus]

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US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

We'll be back in 2024.

Hopefully to stay this time.

Google "Lunar Gateway."

[bkbirge]

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US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

We'll be back in 2024.

Hopefully to stay this time.

Google "Lunar Gateway."

Don't need to,

[Spendulus]

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US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.

We'll be back in 2024.

Hopefully to stay this time.

Google "Lunar Gateway."

Don't need to,

Okay, but I bet you did not know...

The US Lunar Gateway is open to space travelers of all space-capable genders.

Robotic, human, cis-human, trans-human, and full alien!

[johnpaul94]

Well this is for me very believable.... Just the same way you an I belived that the earth is round based on people's research so what's stopping you from believing this one?

[styca]

I'm sure we did land on the moon. One common problem people have with the idea is that it was 1969, so long ago, the technology was so poor compared to what we have now...
But this was the Space Race. USA vs Russia. Capitalism vs Communism. The Russians had been the first in space. The USA absolutely had to win the race to the moon. They threw so much money and resources at it to make sure they won. That's how it was managed in 1969.

[styca]

For those who think it was a hoax, but are still interested in seeing both sides of the argument, this is a good read: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/10/one-giant-lie-why-so-many-people-still-think-the-moon-landings-were-faked

It's a thorough debunking of the hoax myth. Yes, we landed on the moon. This article deals with every objection I can think of. The whole thing started with one nut-job and a self-published pamphlet, back in 1976...

[Rikafip]

For those who think it was a hoax, but are still interested in seeing both sides of the argument, this is a good read: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/10/one-giant-lie-why-so-many-people-still-think-the-moon-landings-were-faked

It's a thorough debunking of the hoax myth. Yes, we landed on the moon. This article deals with every objection I can think of. The whole thing started with one nut-job and a self-published pamphlet, back in 1976...

Unfortunately  that won't change the opinion of moon landing deniers, they are not interested in facts, they simply decided that it is a hoax and in general they tend to believe in bunch of other conspiracy theories, not just this one.
You know the saying, "You cannot reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into."

[styca]

Unfortunately  that won't change the opinion of moon landing deniers, they are not interested in facts, they simply decided that it is a hoax and in general they tend to believe in bunch of other conspiracy theories, not just this one.
You know the saying, "You cannot reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into."

Yes, I know what you mean. I've just posted some similar evidence on the climate-change thread, which again will probably not change opinions.
It probably just takes a couple of minutes reading to see that moon landings are real, or that man-made climate change is real... probably less time than it takes to write a post supporting the hoax.

I'll concede that people take the 'moon landings are real' side without question as well, but as soon as it comes into question, well, you DYOR and look at the evidence... That's the key word here. Evidence.