REEE: Never argue with Vod, he will abuse the trust and stalk you for years

[TECSHARE]

Funny, you seem to want to end the discussion every time I bring up proof in your own words of you not only being abusive, but being full of shit about it and desperately struggling for new lies to cover it up. I guess that is why you suddenly need to pretend to be the better man and "ignore" me, so you can maintain the illusion that you don't know what I posted and never have to dig your hole deeper by trying to make more excuses and lies to cover for your behavior.

This thread didn't solve any of the existing problems, only added more fuel to this fire. I haven't seen any attempt to do something, to end this finally.

The main idiot is still arguing, just with different people.  If I lock this thread he will REEEcreate another.  :/

What do you suggest be done to end this finally, that we haven't tried over the last four years?  

People have voiced their opinions, now everything is being repeated ad infinitum.  

Please don't blame me for the actions of others.  I am no longer arguing with him, hence the thread title.

I did my best to steer clear of you, you started this shit, as you always do over and over and over again. Please, spare us the victim sob story. You have no one to blame but yourself. Funny, you seemed to think you could negative rate me from a position of DT1 simply for having opinions critical of your behavior which is how all of this began. I guess only special people like you get to have opinions. Funny how you "aren't arguing with" me, but you are still going on and on about me. You can't help yourself, that is the defining trait of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

Hey look what I dug up!

Tecshare, Badbear removed me from his trust list.  I do not have a protected position on default trust.  Stop lying about me.

I'll go add the reference to the trust now and put this to rest.  

Vod was removed from his trust list as a direct result of his abusive behavior. A staff member agreed his behavior was abusive.

I have never been abusive.  Show us the evidence...

Here ya go!

I plan to exclude you from my trust list due to your feedback on tecshare. I gave you the benefit of the doubt at first, but the way you keep antagonizing, provoking, and holding it over his head has made it pretty clear it was left out of spite.  If you don't want this, I would suggest you resolve your issues with him ASAP.
The above PM was sent to Vod

So which is it Vod? You are contradicting yourself in your own words. Oh right, you are pretending to be the better man so you don't have to respond to being caught being abusive and then blatantly lying about it to save yourself from digging your pit of bullshit even deeper trying to explain it.

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[nutildah]

Vod is the better man. He's not perfect (no one is), but he's a lot better than you.

He also never moped about the trust system not having "objective standards" for months (years) and then gave you a negative trust for being "mentally ill" (though by all accounts it would be just as perfectly warranted). So do you have the authorized paperwork that declares Vod mentally ill or what "objective standard" are you basing that off of?

[TECSHARE]

Vod is the better man. He's not perfect (no one is), but he's a lot better than you.

He also never moped about the trust system not having "objective standards" for months (years) and then gave you a negative trust for being "mentally ill" (though by all accounts it would be just as perfectly warranted). So do you have the authorized paperwork that declares Vod mentally ill or what "objective standard" are you basing that off of?

Better than me how? If you metric is abuse of the trust system or harassment, he is by far not the better man. This pretend ignore act is just an excuse to not own up to him being proven wrong with his own words, this was his immediate reaction to it being posted. Regarding the negative rating I left for Vod, I explained it already here (as you are well aware):

I see, so suddenly you want protection under my metric! Thanks for demonstrating its usefulness. Unfortunately we are not operating under my objective metric of a standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws, we are operating under a subjective free for all, one you take full advantage of on a regular basis. Under the current standard we are operating under, even Theymos himself said leaving you a negative rating was completely valid, and after seeing you feign remorse and then move right back into unrepentant abuse just as you always do I decided to leave that rating for you because you more than earned it. As far as your mental illness, that is evident from your own continued unyielding escalation of unrepentant abusive behavior, but that is not why I left you the rating, I left it because you doxed and reported a user to the IRS as a form of retribution for their criticism of you. It is more than evident you have trouble controlling yourself.

[nutildah]

Vod is the better man. He's not perfect (no one is), but he's a lot better than you.

He also never moped about the trust system not having "objective standards" for months (years) and then gave you a negative trust for being "mentally ill" (though by all accounts it would be just as perfectly warranted). So do you have the authorized paperwork that declares Vod mentally ill or what "objective standard" are you basing that off of?

Better than me how? If you metric is abuse of the trust system or harassment, he is by far not the better man. This pretend ignore act is just an excuse to not own up to him being proven wrong with his own words, this was his immediate reaction to it being posted. Regarding the negative rating I left for Vod, I explained it already here (as you are well aware):

I see, so suddenly you want protection under my metric! Thanks for demonstrating its usefulness. Unfortunately we are not operating under my objective metric of a standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws, we are operating under a subjective free for all, one you take full advantage of on a regular basis. Under the current standard we are operating under, even Theymos himself said leaving you a negative rating was completely valid, and after seeing you feign remorse and then move right back into unrepentant abuse just as you always do I decided to leave that rating for you because you more than earned it. As far as your mental illness, that is evident from your own continued unyielding escalation of unrepentant abusive behavior, but that is not why I left you the rating, I left it because you doxed and reported a user to the IRS as a form of retribution for their criticism of you. It is more than evident you have trouble controlling yourself.

OK. So you are abandoning your principles in favor of relying on theymos' words. That's fine, and as he's the admin and been here longer than almost everybody, I too value his opinions. However, you should probably take into account that he also said this:

But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

You don't have to be big on "forgiveness" if you don't want -- that's entirely up to you. But it would be ridiculous for you to continue espousing the idea that the system should behave under your principles of "objective standards" if you yourself are unwilling to use them.

[TECSHARE]

OK. So you are abandoning your principles in favor of relying on theymos' words. That's fine, and as he's the admin and been here longer than almost everybody, I too value his opinions. However, you should probably take into account that he also said this:

But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

You don't have to be big on "forgiveness" if you don't want -- that's entirely up to you. But it would be ridiculous for you to continue espousing the idea that the system should behave under your principles of "objective standards" if you yourself are unwilling to use them.

Nope, my principles are intact. Just because I don't let Vod be abusive without reaction doesn't mean I am abandoning my principles. I am not going to hold myself to these standards at all times while people can't even keep the standards the system operates under now. Of course you and your fellow toads love to have one standard for me and another for your pals. I am not tying one arm behind my back in a match the other guy is already cheating at anyway just to meet your definition of my own standards.

Regarding forgiveness, usually that includes some kind of repentance on the part of the offending party, and considering he is literally denying he abused the trust system to harass me at all, let alone the stalking and harassing behavior, I would say forgiveness out of the question.

[El duderino_]

Can't you guys just make one thread instead of a page full of similar pointless threads?

Most of them are the same as the other and become less and less relevant, also its just annoying cause they all the same BS

Just another noise over the exact same members ......

[El duderino_]

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Could count for numerous threads....

These are just the most recent again....

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Can't you guys just make one thread instead of a page full of similar pointless threads?

Most of them are the same as the other and become less and less relevant, also its just annoying cause they all the same BS

Just another noise over the exact same members ......

Agree, it’s getting really fucking boring seeing the same shit in multiple threads.

[TECSHARE]

Can't you guys just make one thread instead of a page full of similar pointless threads?

Most of them are the same as the other and become less and less relevant, also its just annoying cause they all the same BS

Just another noise over the exact same members ......

Agree, it’s getting really fucking boring seeing the same shit in multiple threads.

If you don't like it talk to Vod. I would have kept it in the original thread but he is a chickenshit running from answering for his bullshit and abuse as he plays victim/diplomat. Very sorry you aren't entertained. Next time I will try to make the years of stalking and abuse I have been subjected to more entertaining.

[El duderino_]

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What you say can be addressed by the relevant people or interested members, but could be easily in lesser threads, instead of every day a new thread over the exact same complaining about the same members and so on.....

Just try to keep it in lesser threads....... I'm always of the opinion everyone has to speak and discuss their mind in the right threads etc, just try to keep it in lesser threads if thats doable.

[TECSHARE]

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What you say can be addressed by the relevant people or interested members, but could be easily in lesser threads, instead of every day a new thread over the exact same complaining about the same members and so on.....

Just try to keep it in lesser threads....... I'm always of the opinion everyone has to speak and discuss their mind in the right threads etc, just try to keep it in lesser threads if thats doable.

Nice hyperbole. I am not making a new thread anywhere near "every day". I wouldn't have to keep raising the issue if spineless complainers like you would take action against his abuse. Instead you just blame me, which is why I have respect for so few people here any more. Your pals are above reproach, and anyone raising a grievance is nothing more than an annoyance.

[El duderino_]

Its not at you specific... but to make a point.... could be anyones thread.

[TECSHARE]

Its not at you specific... but to make a point.... could be anyones thread.

I don't have any responsibility for the other thread spammers.

[josephdd1]

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What you say can be addressed by the relevant people or interested members, but could be easily in lesser threads, instead of every day a new thread over the exact same complaining about the same members and so on.....

Just try to keep it in lesser threads....... I'm always of the opinion everyone has to speak and discuss their mind in the right threads etc, just try to keep it in lesser threads if thats doable.

Nice hyperbole. I am not making a new thread anywhere near "every day". I wouldn't have to keep raising the issue if spineless complainers like you would take action against his abuse. Instead you just blame me, which is why I have respect for so few people here any more. Your pals are above reproach, and anyone raising a grievance is nothing more than an annoyance.

I've noticed your posts before, look I don't know you or vod, but he has a better sense of judgement than you. Especially since you are a trump supporting asshat that thinks being white is some kind of achievement. Don't ask me where you posted such shit this is purely out of my random memory but must be somewhere in the off topic section

also, vod is inactive these days mostly because of the latest fallout with ognasty and that crap, i suggest you not to raise allegations on somene when they are not even here to defend themselves..

[yahoo62278]

You are making alot of threads over the same crap basically. REEEEE this REEEEE that. Starting to look and sound a bit like cryptohunter and noone is going to take you seriously.

I've had no issue with you or vod or any of the people in the other REEEEE threads but instead of arguing and fighting in thread after thread why not agree to disagree and move the hell on? You tag them, they tag you, get over it and find a solution to the trust system. Making all these threads because you disagree with a user doesn't fix a thing.

I'd like to see this place operate more like a forum should vs operating like a 10th grade hallway

[TECSHARE]

I've noticed your posts before, look I don't know you or vod, but he has a better sense of judgement than you. Especially since you are a trump supporting asshat that thinks being white is some kind of achievement. Don't ask me where you posted such shit this is purely out of my random memory but must be somewhere in the off topic section

also, vod is inactive these days mostly because of the latest fallout with ognasty and that crap, i suggest you not to raise allegations on somene when they are not even here to defend themselves..

You don't know anything about anyone or anything, but you are A-OK with having strong opinions about it anyway huh? As I suspect as with you and several others they have a problem with me because of my political opinions and seek to sling shit at me in any way they can, other than in debate of course, because you could never manage that. Vod is not defending himself because he refuses to, because he has no response that won't make him look like even more of a hypocrite. He is absent from this thread by choice, and he created ALL of these conflicts by his own actions.

Also being white as some kind of achievement? What the fuck are you even talking about? Who the fuck even said I was white? Are you one of those unhinged projecting lunatic people who think everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi? Take your Marxist ass horse shit and walk.

You are making alot of threads over the same crap basically. REEEEE this REEEEE that. Starting to look and sound a bit like cryptohunter and noone is going to take you seriously.

I've had no issue with you or vod or any of the people in the other REEEEE threads but instead of arguing and fighting in thread after thread why not agree to disagree and move the hell on? You tag them, they tag you, get over it and find a solution to the trust system. Making all these threads because you disagree with a user doesn't fix a thing.

I'd like to see this place operate more like a forum should vs operating like a 10th grade hallway

I would remind you the only reasons these TWO WHOLE threads exist is because various tool bags started shit slinging threads that ended up not working the way they liked so they closed them to prevent response. If they had been able to withstand open debate all of this would have been in those original threads. I really don't give a shit about the opinions of you and those in the brown nose clan. If you haven't noticed by now your marginalization tactics are ineffective against me. Interesting I don't see you saying things like this to Vod or Marolboroza.

Of course you don't give a fuck about any of this, so it is a much simpler task for you to condemn anyone raising a grievance and point at the symptoms instead of looking at the cause. If you bothered to read how this all began you would see I did move on, but he didn't let go. Vod is NEVER going to move on. He is mentally ill and will always seek to antagonize anyone who DARES criticize him at any opportunity, and since people like you pretend it never happened he is just that more emboldened to do it again and again and again.

I would like for all this bullshit to stop as well, but nothing is changing and abusers are not being held accountable. I warned this would be the result YEARS ago, but people just like you enjoy poo pooing more than you do having a legitimate discussion. I have been trying to get the trust system fixed for about as long as you have even been around. As long as this forum is ruled by a bunch of spinless eunuchs afraid to stand up to people, this problem is only going to become increasingly worse. Why don't you stop crying about the symptoms and start looking at the cause? Oh right, you can't because if you get out of lockstep with the hive mind of the brown nose clan you will be punished. Better keep that nose firmly implanted up their butt and attack the individual bad man for complaining. That is the Politburo way after all right Comrade?

[yahoo62278]

I've noticed your posts before, look I don't know you or vod, but he has a better sense of judgement than you. Especially since you are a trump supporting asshat that thinks being white is some kind of achievement. Don't ask me where you posted such shit this is purely out of my random memory but must be somewhere in the off topic section

also, vod is inactive these days mostly because of the latest fallout with ognasty and that crap, i suggest you not to raise allegations on somene when they are not even here to defend themselves..

You don't know anything about anyone or anything, but you are A-OK with having strong opinions about it anyway huh? As I suspect as with you and several others they have a problem with me because of my political opinions and seek to sling shit at me in any way they can, other than in debate of course, because you could never manage that. Vod is not defending himself because he refuses to, because he has no response that won't make him look like even more of a hypocrite. He is absent from this thread by choice, and he created ALL of these conflicts by his own actions.

Also being white as some kind of achievement? What the fuck are you even talking about? Who the fuck even said I was white. Are you one of those unhinged projecting lunatic people who think everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi? Take your Marxist ass horse shit and walk.

You are making alot of threads over the same crap basically. REEEEE this REEEEE that. Starting to look and sound a bit like cryptohunter and noone is going to take you seriously.

I've had no issue with you or vod or any of the people in the other REEEEE threads but instead of arguing and fighting in thread after thread why not agree to disagree and move the hell on? You tag them, they tag you, get over it and find a solution to the trust system. Making all these threads because you disagree with a user doesn't fix a thing.

I'd like to see this place operate more like a forum should vs operating like a 10th grade hallway

I would remind you the only reasons these threads exist is because various tool bags started shit slinging threads that ended up not working the way they liked so they closed them to prevent response. If they had been able to withstand open debate all of this would have been in those original threads. I really don't give a shit about the opinions of you and those in the brown nose clan. If you haven't noticed by now your marginalization tactics are ineffective against me. Interesting I don't see you saying things like this to Vod or Marolboroza.

Of course you don't give a fuck about any of this, so it is a much simpler task for you to condemn anyone raising a grievance and point at the symptoms instead of looking at the cause. If you bothered to read how this all began you would see I did move on, but he didn't let go. Vod is NEVER going to move on. He is mentally ill and will always seek to antagonize anyone who DARES criticize him at any opportunity, and since people like you pretend it never happened he is just that more emboldened to do it again and again and again.

I would like for all this bullshit to stop as well, but nothing is changing and abusers are not being held accountable. I warned this would be the result YEARS ago, but people just like you enjoy poo pooing more than you do having a legitimate discussion. I have been trying to get the trust system fixed for about as long as you have even been around. As long as this forum is ruled by a bunch of spinless eunuchs afraid to stand up to people, this problem is only going to become increasingly worse. Why don't you stop crying about the symptoms and start looking at the cause? Oh right, you can't because if you get out of lockstep with the hive mind of the brown nose clan you will be punished. Better keep that nose firmly implanted up their butt and attack the individual bad man for complaining. That is the Politburo way after all right Comrade?

I'm not choosing sides here bud. I'm saying 3 threads on basically the same subject is dumb as hell. What is it gaining you? All of it can and should have been put into 1 thread.

I could care less about who likes who or any of the other politics that go on around here.

Many people feel that the current system is terrible and extremely manipulated, so propose some solutions and maybe theymos can change it up. Use the ~ in your trust list for those you dont like or get along with.

[TECSHARE]

I'm not choosing sides here bud. I'm saying 3 threads on basically the same subject is dumb as hell. What is it gaining you? All of it can and should have been put into 1 thread.

I could care less about who likes who or any of the other politics that go on around here.

Many people feel that the current system is terrible and extremely manipulated, so propose some solutions and maybe theymos can change it up. Use the ~ in your trust list for those you dont like or get along with.

But you are choosing sides by default of your dismissive attitude as if I made these threads excessively for no reason. Also maybe learn to count to two before criticizing me. I get very little from creating these threads except dismissal from disaffected bystanders like you wagging your finger at me, and dog piling from those that benefit from keeping the system broken. All I do get is the occasional user here or there that bothers to inform themselves because of the awareness it brings instead of just passing by, dropping a turd in the middle of the floor, and leaving never bothering to even learn about what they have such strong opinions on.

I have proposed many solutions, as I have already stated, since about as long as you have even existed here. Excluding people is not going to fix the problem. Many people think the system is broken, sure. How many of them say fuck all about it in public? That's right almost no one, because they check their nut sacks at the door when they log in because they are afraid they will be penalized for speaking up against the wrong people. I have already been penalized for speaking up, so I have no incentive not to.

[yahoo62278]

I'm not choosing sides here bud. I'm saying 3 threads on basically the same subject is dumb as hell. What is it gaining you? All of it can and should have been put into 1 thread.

I could care less about who likes who or any of the other politics that go on around here.

Many people feel that the current system is terrible and extremely manipulated, so propose some solutions and maybe theymos can change it up. Use the ~ in your trust list for those you dont like or get along with.

But you are choosing sides by default of your dismissive attitude as if I made these threads excessively for no reason. Also maybe learn to count to two before criticizing me. I get very little from creating these threads except dismissal from disaffected bystanders like you wagging your finger at me, and dog piling from those that benefit from keeping the system broken. All I do get is the occasional user here or there that bothers to inform themselves because of the awareness it brings instead of just passing by, dropping a turd in the middle of the floor, and leaving never bothering to even learn about what they have such strong opinions on.

I have proposed many solutions, as I have already stated, since about as long as you have even existed here. Excluding people is not going to fix the problem. Many people think the system is broken, sure. How many of them say fuck all about it in public? That's right almost no one, because they check their nut sacks at the door when they log in because they are afraid they will be penalized for speaking up against the wrong people. I have already been penalized for speaking up, so I have no incentive not to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149597.0   REEEE puppet show

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144134.0 REEEE Vod taking a break.....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143502.0 REEEEE Vod and Hhampuz

Since we are apparently resorting to insulting each other, Pretty sure I CAN COUNT and there are 3 damn REEEEE threads right there and this 1 would make 4. Don't bother commenting as I won't be replying again in this thread.

Good luck

[TECSHARE]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149597.0   REEEE puppet show

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144134.0 REEEE Vod taking a break.....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143502.0 REEEEE Vod and Hhampuz

Since we are apparently resorting to insulting each other, Pretty sure I CAN COUNT and there are 3 damn REEEEE threads right there and this 1 would make 4. Don't bother commenting as I won't be replying again in this thread.

Good luck

Sorry, I didn't know we were going back to month old threads. Every one of these threads only exist because other people want to prevent discussion by locking the original threads. Just because you feel insulted doesn't mean I insulted you. You are the only one in control of you being insulted or not. Have fun being spineless, uninformed, and opinionated. Later.

EDIT: I find it interesting that you aren't "choosing sides" here, but you felt the need to delete two previous trust ratings for me after this interaction. You are a prime example of what is wrong with the trust system. In you mind your feelings are more important than a positive trading experience, and you have no problem using the trust system as retribution for daring to be critical of you.