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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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May 18, 2022, 09:39:33 PM
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There are three key players who are currently injured and I have said that before, I don't know if they will recover before the Champions League final starts or not. Because if these three players can't play in the final match, then of course it can make Liverpool's performance not optimal. If Liverpool can play all the key players from the start then surely Liverpool will have a chance to win but if there are some key players that can't be played then maybe I will have a little doubt.
Based on this [1] it seems the Fabinho's injury are the most serious compared to Salah and Van Dijk, even the injury is expected to fully recovered on May, 25 but I doubt his performance will be same as before. Players need to train their body consistently to have better result and they can't force their body just in a day since they might got sick after that. Perhaps, this is the reason why Liverpool odds doesn't really huge favorited as before (below 2.00), now it swing to 2.11 though they're still the favorite.
Maybe Fabinho is not a must? I mean I know that he would be great to have if they could have, but if they can't have him, that's not going to be a terrible situation. VVD is the most important one if you ask me, even their offensive line without Salah could end up scoring, but without VVD they are not doing that well. Look at the goal Southampton scored, that should have been easily stoppable.

If I were in Klopps place, I would go out with Konate and VVD defensive line and just go for size, because Benzema is not a fast player neither, so you need to push him around a bit more in order to stop him. Well Klopp knows what he is doing Cheesy. So, he will get out with the best roster they could.
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May 18, 2022, 09:43:32 PM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.

It is true that Real Madrid's journey to reach the Champions League final is quite difficult, Real Madrid have to beat the 3 strong teams you have
mentioned. Which I think proves how mentally strong Real Madrid players are, and I believe Real Madrid will not be satisfied if they only go to the final.
Real Madrid is very ambitious to win the Champions League trophy, So I predict Real Madrid can beat Liverpool. But of course it won't be easy
for Real Madrid to beat Liverpool who have been outstanding so far too, this will indeed be an interesting match to watch and it will certainly
be very entertaining.

Unfortunately as Liverpool still have quite a few important games to play, therefore, there are several major players who are reportedly injured.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid has been confirmed as the winner of the La Liga trophy. Now they can focus on waiting for the Champions League final
and can better protect their players from getting injured. Therefore, I really hope that the two teams in the Champions League final can play
their best squad, so that the match will be more exciting.

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May 18, 2022, 10:15:50 PM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.

Sometimes I talk to some of my friends regarding this final match almost all of them favorite Liverpool to win of course, with each analysis
Most believe Liverpool will rely on speed and if Liverpool are able to do it from the first half then Madrid will be in trouble if Madrid can't handle it
60% I believe in their predictions it's just that Madrid are experienced, in the last match Madrid showed an amazing way of playing never giving up

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May 18, 2022, 11:03:17 PM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.

Sometimes I talk to some of my friends regarding this final match almost all of them favorite Liverpool to win of course, with each analysis
Most believe Liverpool will rely on speed and if Liverpool are able to do it from the first half then Madrid will be in trouble if Madrid can't handle it
60% I believe in their predictions it's just that Madrid are experienced, in the last match Madrid showed an amazing way of playing never giving up
At this point all we can do is to focus on the final game and see what the outcome will be, Liverpool vs Real Madrid will be a tough match especially when it is the final match for the 2020/2021 round.

Even though football fans have been making several analyses concerning the finals it's still not clear which club will take home the trophy.
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May 19, 2022, 04:44:38 AM
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The big question is will Manchester City lose their weekend game and if that happens then Liverpool will be in a good position to make a big history in 2022 the club will make a triple victory.
You put posts and discussions in the wrong place, because for this season Manchester City is no longer in the Champions League, but if you mean the Premier League, then try to discuss the topic of Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 because it's the place for the Premier League this season, so next time please be more careful.

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May 19, 2022, 04:51:04 AM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.
That's right, Real Madrid have beaten strong teams to be in the final, PSG, Chelsea and also Man City. in terms of quality maybe Real Madrid lost to them it was evident in the game in possession but the mentality of Real Madrid was able to make them turn things around, therefore I think Real Madrid deserve to be champions of the UCL this season, after what they went through. it's very worth it.
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In contrary, I think Real Madrid played a better game, it was not a show of lucky. In fact, saying Manchester City was unlucky is clearly undermining the tactics Ancelotti and his men employed to that game. Real Madrid never panicked for one second even when they were losing. The cameras at some point in the game caught Benzema and some players laughing, they knew Manchester City players were tired and that was the plan. Wear them out and strike! Real Madrid executed it at the right time and it was clear the game was over.
Because Real Madrid has a stronger champion metal than Manchester City, so the things that make them lose can be well controlled, plus Real Madrid has a coach who is sufficiently experienced in the Champions League, experience and mental champion is very influential, because this is a strong mentality to play calm and pretty good, while Manchester City does not have this, so that in a winning position does not make them play consistently and finally they are cheated in the last minute

Yeah we can't tell it just only luck. Real Madrid is so confident to win match against any team. Performance from teams are also good. They have some young players like Vini Jr, Rodrygo and they can change the result at any time.
Real Madrid has a solid team's work spirit, they did not give up until the final minutes and in the end they were able to turn things around, the coach was also very calm in changing players, until the right moment and time arrived, Ancelotti included a very appropriate substitute, until the score changed and win in the end
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May 19, 2022, 09:42:18 AM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.
That's right, Real Madrid have beaten strong teams to be in the final, PSG, Chelsea and also Man City. in terms of quality maybe Real Madrid lost to them it was evident in the game in possession but the mentality of Real Madrid was able to make them turn things around, therefore I think Real Madrid deserve to be champions of the UCL this season, after what they went through. it's very worth it.


Real Madrid are indeed recognized as having an extraordinary mentality in this season's UCL where they successfully made a comeback against Chelsea and Manchester city, but the final match will be different because what they are facing is Liverpool, who both have an extraordinary winning mentality, especially the squad. Jurgen fits this time, appearing so consistently in the domestic league and UCL, which must be watched out for if ancelot is in because the movements of Muhammad Salah and Sadio Mane will trouble the heart of the real Madrid defense which we can say is often overwhelmed when facing these big teams

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Liverpool o prepare the players as most of the players play as if they're out of form, maybe because of the minor injuries as you mentioned.
Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals Real Madrid players have rested truly since they have the space in between marches to do so but real Madrid has an upcoming match before the final championship leg so they do need to get well prepared.

I think, Liverpool coach is seriously working to make sure his players that injured in their last matches are recover to be part of the victory they will achieve from the final.  All Liverpool players are fully prepared to play Real Madrid to achieve the title of the season and to prove to the world that they remain unbeatable in this tournament. In the premier league table, Liverpool still maintaining second position which they are in good position to take over the first position from Manchester city, if Manchester city fail to win their next match.


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I think, Liverpool coach is seriously working to make sure his players that injured in their last matches are recover to be part of the victory they will achieve from the final.  All Liverpool players are fully prepared to play Real Madrid to achieve the title of the season and to prove to the world that they remain unbeatable in this tournament. In the premier league table, Liverpool still maintaining second position which they are in good position to take over the first position from Manchester city, if Manchester city fail to win their next match.

Insufficient analysis! That is not enough to make Liverpool win the Champions League, the two best teams in the final stage are sometimes difficult to predict, sometimes it's a matter of luck because if we want to compare what Real Madrid has done this season, I think anyone here will agree that they are the one that will take the cup home. They are the one leading Laliga Spain and Liverpool is just in second place while Manchester city is in the first spot. It is even possible that Liverpool that you're rooting for may mistakenly get a red card in the first minute of the game leaving them with no choice but to play under high pressure.  Cheesy

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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.
That's right, Real Madrid have beaten strong teams to be in the final, PSG, Chelsea and also Man City. in terms of quality maybe Real Madrid lost to them it was evident in the game in possession but the mentality of Real Madrid was able to make them turn things around, therefore I think Real Madrid deserve to be champions of the UCL this season, after what they went through. it's very worth it.
Seeing Real Madrid's journey is what makes me inclined to see that Real Madrid will do the same in this final. Yes, it's true, maybe in terms of ball possession Real Madrid could lose to Liverpool later, but if it's for effectiveness I think Real Madrid will be able to be superior to Liverpool. Moreover we know that Real Madrid have a fast attack and the fast attack they play is effective.

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May 19, 2022, 11:48:12 AM
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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.
That's right, Real Madrid have beaten strong teams to be in the final, PSG, Chelsea and also Man City. in terms of quality maybe Real Madrid lost to them it was evident in the game in possession but the mentality of Real Madrid was able to make them turn things around, therefore I think Real Madrid deserve to be champions of the UCL this season, after what they went through. it's very worth it.

If Real Madrid is able to beat the 3 strong teams you have mentioned, Real Madrid should be able to beat Liverpool too. Besides Real Madrid having
a very strong mentality, Real Madrid also has Karim Benzema who is on fire this season. Karim Benzema will be a threat to the Liverpool defence,
so Klopp did have to give instructions to one of the Liverpool defenders to be able to follow Benzema wherever he moves. Because strikers like
Benzema don't need many chances to score goals.

I like you prefer Real Madrid to be the winner of the Champions League trophy, Real Madrid's performance this season has been absolutely incredible.
Real Madrid managed to win the La Liga trophy before the end of the season, because they have a point acquisition that is quite far from Barcelona
who is in 2nd position. While Real Madrid's performance in the Champions League was shocking, I didn't even expect them to reach the final.
I think the confidence of Real Madrid players is very high, especially since Real Madrid has an extraordinary history in the Champions League competition.
Therefore, I am quite optimistic that Real Madrid will be able to beat Liverpool in the Champions League final.

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I think, Liverpool coach is seriously working to make sure his players that injured in their last matches are recover to be part of the victory they will achieve from the final.  All Liverpool players are fully prepared to play Real Madrid to achieve the title of the season and to prove to the world that they remain unbeatable in this tournament. In the premier league table, Liverpool still maintaining second position which they are in good position to take over the first position from Manchester city, if Manchester city fail to win their next match.

Insufficient analysis! That is not enough to make Liverpool win the Champions League, the two best teams in the final stage are sometimes difficult to predict, sometimes it's a matter of luck because if we want to compare what Real Madrid has done this season, I think anyone here will agree that they are the one that will take the cup home. They are the one leading Laliga Spain and Liverpool is just in second place while Manchester city is in the first spot. It is even possible that Liverpool that you're rooting for may mistakenly get a red card in the first minute of the game leaving them with no choice but to play under high pressure.  Cheesy

Lol, you realize analysis is not enough, but you say Real Madrid will take home the trophy. Also, you can compare the intensity and how competitive they are in their respective leagues, even though Real Madrid are winners of the La Liga title this season but the competition is not as heavy as the Premier League. You can judge, Liverpool, which so far this season has won the Carabao Cup, FA Cup and still has a chance to win the Premier League and Champions League titles. It was a great achievement for Liverpool this season, so that the Champions League final match is not certain to be won by Real Madrid because statistically for this season Liverpool are the best team.

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May 19, 2022, 12:40:05 PM
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Seeing Real Madrid's journey is what makes me inclined to see that Real Madrid will do the same in this final. Yes, it's true, maybe in terms of ball possession Real Madrid could lose to Liverpool later, but if it's for effectiveness I think Real Madrid will be able to be superior to Liverpool. Moreover we know that Real Madrid have a fast attack and the fast attack they play is effective.
Looking both team journey to final stage Real Madrid as favorite team to get trophy this time depending from 16 round until semifinal all top team defeated, from PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City are best team right now and have good performance on domestic league and have chance with Manchester City as the champion of domestic league this season. No doubt with Liverpool as bigger team and success lead to final but looking on their journey just Inter Milan as top team defeated on 16 round before facing with Benfica on quarter final and eliminated Villareal on semifinal which one both team as mediocre team.

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May 19, 2022, 12:48:41 PM
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We are getting close to the final match in the Champions League day by day. We are going to watch an amazing match like Liverpool v Real Madrid in Stade de France in only nine days. For Liverpool; Salah, van Dijk and Fabinho are still injured now. Klopp has talked about their injuries positively considering the final match here. And I also hope to see at least Salah to be able to watch a more exciting match in the first place. Real Madrid are my favourite team to win the championship now. But who knows, maybe Liverpool will have their revenge on them.
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May 19, 2022, 12:54:42 PM
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We are getting close to the final match in the Champions League day by day. We are going to watch an amazing match like Liverpool v Real Madrid in Stade de France in only nine days. For Liverpool; Salah, van Dijk and Fabinho are still injured now. Klopp has talked about their injuries positively considering the final match here. And I also hope to see at least Salah to be able to watch a more exciting match in the first place. Real Madrid are my favourite team to win the championship now. But who knows, maybe Liverpool will have their revenge on them.

I think it won't be easy for Real Madrid to win this time although I agree they are somewhat the better team here.Personally I am going to bet on Liverpool to win the Champions League including additional time and penalties as I think they will far more motivated to win this than Real Madrid is.This final is always a psychological game from the coaches point of view,whoever does the better job Ancelotti or Klopp in this regard will be the better team fitted to win this trophy.While Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the world I think Klopp does a better job regarding players psychology so that is why I think Liverpool will win the trophy.

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We are getting close to the final match in the Champions League day by day. We are going to watch an amazing match like Liverpool v Real Madrid in Stade de France in only nine days. For Liverpool; Salah, van Dijk and Fabinho are still injured now. Klopp has talked about their injuries positively considering the final match here. And I also hope to see at least Salah to be able to watch a more exciting match in the first place. Real Madrid are my favourite team to win the championship now. But who knows, maybe Liverpool will have their revenge on them.

I think it won't be easy for Real Madrid to win this time although I agree they are somewhat the better team here.Personally I am going to bet on Liverpool to win the Champions League including additional time and penalties as I think they will far more motivated to win this than Real Madrid is.This final is always a psychological game from the coaches point of view,whoever does the better job Ancelotti or Klopp in this regard will be the better team fitted to win this trophy.While Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the world I think Klopp does a better job regarding players psychology so that is why I think Liverpool will win the trophy.

Honestly, I think if this match goes into extra time and penalties Real Madrid will be the winner of this match because in the Champions League we have seen that whenever the match goes to extra time Real Madrid comes out as the winner.

So, are you believe that Liverpool will try to end the match in the first 90 minutes? And the problem is if the match goes to extra time Real Madrid will have a better physical condition in my opinion because Liverpool is not going to have too much time and rest before the Champions League final.

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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been.  Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.
That's right, Real Madrid have beaten strong teams to be in the final, PSG, Chelsea and also Man City. in terms of quality maybe Real Madrid lost to them it was evident in the game in possession but the mentality of Real Madrid was able to make them turn things around, therefore I think Real Madrid deserve to be champions of the UCL this season, after what they went through. it's very worth it.
The winning mentality is the only reason Real Madrid was able to advance to the final, when viewed from the quality side of the team, Manchester City and PSG are superior to Real Madrid. The consistency of the player's appearance is also an added value for Real Madrid, they are able to make comebacks in important matches. Previously Liverpool and Real Madrid had met in the same final, at that time Real Madrid won the trophy. Liverpool had another chance to avenge their defeat at that time, but Real Madrid would not be easy to beat.
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So, are you believe that Liverpool will try to end the match in the first 90 minutes? And the problem is if the match goes to extra time Real Madrid will have a better physical condition in my opinion because Liverpool is not going to have too much time and rest before the Champions League final.
As a Liverpool fan I'm sure with 90's time Liverpool can finish this game perfectly, I don't mind if Liverpool still have a few games before the final their players will still focus on going forward with the UCL Final with Real Madrid, here we can determine how they fight on the field for this prestigious victory.

If extra time Liverpool certainly still has a strong stamina, even though we know Real Madrid with extra time always puts on a good show but this time Liverpool must win.

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Seeing Real Madrid's journey is what makes me inclined to see that Real Madrid will do the same in this final. Yes, it's true, maybe in terms of ball possession Real Madrid could lose to Liverpool later, but if it's for effectiveness I think Real Madrid will be able to be superior to Liverpool. Moreover we know that Real Madrid have a fast attack and the fast attack they play is effective.
Looking both team journey to final stage Real Madrid as favorite team to get trophy this time depending from 16 round until semifinal all top team defeated, from PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City are best team right now and have good performance on domestic league and have chance with Manchester City as the champion of domestic league this season. No doubt with Liverpool as bigger team and success lead to final but looking on their journey just Inter Milan as top team defeated on 16 round before facing with Benfica on quarter final and eliminated Villareal on semifinal which one both team as mediocre team.

Absolutely nobody gave Real Madrid any chance to be in the finals of the Champions League but yet they have done it. To be honest I was a Barcelona supporter but I lost faith in Barcelona after watching what they are doing and how they treat their players. I was recently watching Liverpool play and I really like their playstyle. But for this champions League, I really want to see Real Madrid win because I want Benzema to lift the Champions League trophy. He worked too hard to lift the trophy this time.

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