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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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May 21, 2022, 10:45:04 PM
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We already know that Real Madrid currently have an unbalanced team, between the defensive sector and the attacker. But we also know that this is a team that has no problem conceding goals. Therefore, they usually become more effective when the opponent starts to think they have the game won or fully controlled.  And that will be the biggest challenge for the Liverpool manager, to make the players maintain a high level of concentration throughout the match.
Even though at the moment Real Madrid can't be said to have a balanced sector, but when the moment becomes important then they can play very well. We will also at least remember that their process to get to the final was not easy, and that's what I say in certain moments they can be very perfect. If Real Madrid get a good moment like that again in the final, then of course the victory will be theirs.

Real Madrid does have an unbalanced time right now.
well, a lot unbalanced compared to the team that Liverpool has.
But they have been achieving good results with this unbalanced team. I am not going to be surprised if they do the same again even though, on paper, it looks like Liverpool has the better team.

The good thing for Real Madrid players will be that they are getting a good amount of rest which the Liverpool players are not getting. I wonder if that is going to have any effect on the outcome of the match, but I am quite sure that this will take effect if the match goes into extra time.
I don't think that Real Madrid is unbalanced at the moment though ; just maybe judging by Madrid's teams in the past, this one can be considered as unbalanced. To be fair, a team that have been able to knock out at least 3 favorites out of the competition shouldn't be thought as one that's unbalanced. Yes, there are question marks on the defense but they always find ways to outscore their opponents and that's what they will likely do to Liverpool in the finals.
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May 21, 2022, 11:53:08 PM
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We are getting closer and closer to the final on May 28 and I am very curious how it will go. People might have thought that Liverpool would make it to the final, but Real Madrid is somewhat surprising. And then Real Madrid also has a very difficult road to reach the final. It would complete the story if Madrid won, they deserve it.

Will Marcelo the most decorated player for Real Madrid win this one again ?
The chances are slim as it's a both team chance to win
Currently shift minds to back Liverpool, they are looking more decisive for the finals.

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May 22, 2022, 03:29:43 AM
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Anyway, this match should not end in a draw because it will be Real Madrid advantage they are accustomed to situations like that they have enough experience
Based on the gambling market Liverpool are still favored for regular time and both teams to score are also very potential market offer 1.65 for this bet
Basically typical Liverpool is almost the same as Manchester City rely on speed and this is Madrid weakness.
Not first time Real Madrid is not favorite team for winning on UEFA Champion League final against with Liverpool, before final match when Real Madrid played home on second leg semifinal against with Manchester City many sport betting gambling favorite Manchester City as the winner and give bigger odds for Madrid, but totally wrong because Real  Madrid success win on second leg semifinal against Manchester City, not doubt with little odds giving for Liverpool and bigger for Madrid because not favorite on final but I believe will be the same score or result like Real Madrid eliminated Manchester City on semifinal stage.

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May 22, 2022, 04:07:02 AM
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Not first time Real Madrid is not favorite team for winning on UEFA Champion League final against with Liverpool, before final match when Real Madrid played home on second leg semifinal against with Manchester City many sport betting gambling favorite Manchester City as the winner and give bigger odds for Madrid, but totally wrong because Real  Madrid success win on second leg semifinal against Manchester City, not doubt with little odds giving for Liverpool and bigger for Madrid because not favorite on final but I believe will be the same score or result like Real Madrid eliminated Manchester City on semifinal stage.
Why do we have to talk about Manchester City when the final will be a match between Real Madrid and Liverpool?

Manchester City and Liverpool are performing almost the same in Premier League so if Real Madrid can beat Manchester City, they can beat Liverpool. They are the King in Champions League and Liverpool will begin the final with sort of fear of loss.

They are strong and confident but there are things affect players which are unexplainable. I hope Liverpool players will keep their mind strongly and can play with best ability in the final . Because if they can, we will have a very exciting final to watch.

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May 22, 2022, 05:03:00 AM
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We are getting closer and closer to the final on May 28 and I am very curious how it will go. People might have thought that Liverpool would make it to the final, but Real Madrid is somewhat surprising. And then Real Madrid also has a very difficult road to reach the final. It would complete the story if Madrid won, they deserve it.

Indeed, Real Madrid will make history if they win this season because they did it miraculously even with a 1% chance of winning they can turn things around
But this is a final after all the team that was there was the best team Liverpool won't just let it go and they deserve to win too.
I think Mohamed Salah was one of the happiest Liverpool players in this final, because the club he was playing for met Real Madrid again. In the 2018 final Mohamed Salah had to be withdrawn due to a shoulder injury after being hit by Sergio Ramos, Salah walked off the field in tears.
Currently Liverpool is in high confidence, the Reds are ready to bring the Champions League title even though the opponents faced by the club have won the most UCL trophies. Real Madrid must be wary of the spirit of the Liverpool players, as they are eager to take revenge on Real Madrid for their defeat in the 2018 final.

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May 22, 2022, 05:19:32 AM
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That's right, not benzema the main source for Real Madrid's comeback in the match against Manchester City, this is where the coach's ability to see opportunities to make changes, even though it happened at the last minute, almost everyone think Real Madrid have finished, materially players, metal and Real Madrid's spirit is superior to Liverpool's, but Real Madrid cannot take it easy in the final, because Liverpool also have a different spirit this season, they have lifted the FA and Caraboe champions, automatically they also want to secure one more trophy this season
Both Liverpool and Real Madrid already have trophy wins from other league matches but hunting for trophies for victory in the champions league is very prioritized because the Champions league is very classy to be recorded in the history of winning from all other football leagues, I am still confused to determine the current victory speculation because both the best team and will do whatever is best for the victory, the match will be very impressive to watch even though I am not taking sides for either team.
Other league trophies are very different from the Champions League, because all clubs chase this trophy in every season, it is indeed difficult to identify who will win the Champions League Final, but if you look at the readiness of Real Madrid, they have everything, both experienced coaches and the winning mentality they have. have, but football is not only about the coach and mental, this is not the standard of victory, both Real Madrid and Liverpool have a chance to win the Champions League this season, by not making mistakes in the final later

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May 22, 2022, 05:20:10 AM
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Not first time Real Madrid is not favorite team for winning on UEFA Champion League final against with Liverpool, before final match when Real Madrid played home on second leg semifinal against with Manchester City many sport betting gambling favorite Manchester City as the winner and give bigger odds for Madrid, but totally wrong because Real  Madrid success win on second leg semifinal against Manchester City, not doubt with little odds giving for Liverpool and bigger for Madrid because not favorite on final but I believe will be the same score or result like Real Madrid eliminated Manchester City on semifinal stage.
Why do we have to talk about Manchester City when the final will be a match between Real Madrid and Liverpool?

Manchester City and Liverpool are performing almost the same in Premier League so if Real Madrid can beat Manchester City, they can beat Liverpool. They are the King in Champions League and Liverpool will begin the final with sort of fear of loss.

They are strong and confident but there are things affect players which are unexplainable. I hope Liverpool players will keep their mind strongly and can play with best ability in the final . Because if they can, we will have a very exciting final to watch.

Real madrid is the king of champions league in different seasons. If I'm not mistaken, the last time Real Madrid win the Champions League was the 2017-2018 season. At that time Real Madrid was starred by big players who no longer play at Real Madrid like Ronaldo up front and Ramos at the back, and now the season is different. I think Liverpool are much more confident at the moment

By the way, if Real Madrid can beat City, in reality Liverpool also beat City in the FA semi-finals.

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May 22, 2022, 05:33:46 AM
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Not first time Real Madrid is not favorite team for winning on UEFA Champion League final against with Liverpool, before final match when Real Madrid played home on second leg semifinal against with Manchester City many sport betting gambling favorite Manchester City as the winner and give bigger odds for Madrid, but totally wrong because Real  Madrid success win on second leg semifinal against Manchester City, not doubt with little odds giving for Liverpool and bigger for Madrid because not favorite on final but I believe will be the same score or result like Real Madrid eliminated Manchester City on semifinal stage.
Why do we have to talk about Manchester City when the final will be a match between Real Madrid and Liverpool?

Manchester City and Liverpool are performing almost the same in Premier League so if Real Madrid can beat Manchester City, they can beat Liverpool. They are the King in Champions League and Liverpool will begin the final with sort of fear of loss.

They are strong and confident but there are things affect players which are unexplainable. I hope Liverpool players will keep their mind strongly and can play with best ability in the final . Because if they can, we will have a very exciting final to watch.

Real madrid is the king of champions league in different seasons. If I'm not mistaken, the last time Real Madrid win the Champions League was the 2017-2018 season. At that time Real Madrid was starred by big players who no longer play at Real Madrid like Ronaldo up front and Ramos at the back, and now the season is different. I think Liverpool are much more confident at the moment

By the way, if Real Madrid can beat City, in reality Liverpool also beat City in the FA semi-finals.

There are differences between the quality of the Real Madrid squad in the past and the quality now, I admit. However, Real Madrid still has a good chance. It should not be forgotten that they reached the final by eliminating Manchester City. Manchester City is leading the Premier League. This means:  Liverpool can be beaten.

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May 22, 2022, 05:37:00 AM
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After all, football is about 11 players and not just one or two players, so even though Real Madrid may only rely on strikers to score goals. But still, when other players have the chance to score they can do it too and that doesn't just apply to Liverpool, because of course Real Madrid can do it too. Balancing in a match is important in implementing strategy, because if they only focus on only one side then it will be easy for the opposing team to anticipate.
That is not wrong that you convey, but the coach scheme is sometimes different in implementing the strategy, Real Madrid more hope for Benzema in scoring goals, so that other players only function as a ball supplier, although in the match not all go perfectly and other players too too able to make goals, but if this strategy is applied by Ancelotti, then Liverpool coach is very easy to read the final match later and I hope Real Madrid coach will change the strategy scheme
Now in a position like this each player will know the movement of the opposing player. These two teams are great teams and are coached by the world's top coaches. but in this case the corner kick is an opportunity that is difficult to secure by each team because the movement of the players and the consistency of the goalkeeper is very much needed in reading the movements that will be made by the opposing players.
Liverpool have players who are actively running along the match, they can work together collectively and do not rely on the target of one person, Liverpool's style of play is far more measurable when compared to Real Madrid, but about the experience and mentality of the Liverpool champion is definitely defeated by Real Madrid, the Champions League Requires high experience and mental readiness, this can be seen how Manchester City is really destroyed by Real Madrid in a fairly short time, Liverpool must be really ready to avoid such cheating
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May 22, 2022, 05:48:48 AM
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Not a few people will think Liverpool spent the remaining stamina in the remaining time to the Champions League final. It is not expected that Liverpool's performance will decline and fatigue. On the other hand, Madrid is getting more and more optimal every day. Liverpool's journey will be quite heavy at the end of this season.
But Liverpool also rotated players in the domestic league, but in the end they also played very well, I think the second tier players owned by Liverpool also have an optimal class, if I'm not mistaken it was reported that Mohamad Salah had an injury, but Liverpool made sure he would recover before The Champions League final takes place, this is what Real Madrid and Liverpool are worried about, when a core player is seriously injured, the team's performance will be greatly disrupted, so that rotation of players becomes a trick to keep the core players
Jorgen Klopp does a big rotation in the domestic league, they didn't even play their main player when they faced Southampton in Week 37, a great tactician and has experience and can take every opportunity that comes, can certainly overcome all of that even in difficult circumstances, in the FA cup final jorgen Klopp played all their main players, but when facing Southampton Klopp dared to take the decision not to play Mohammad Salah, Luiz Diaz and Sadio Mane up front, I am very happy because liferpol have a very good tactician normal, and provide opportunities for young players to show their game on the field.
What's interesting is that Liverpool's second-tier players can adapt quickly, they play pretty well and are the same as the main players, I think Jorgen Klopp's rotation really has an effect on being ready for the Champions League final, this coach has vision and great mission in keeping players stable, just waiting for one more step for Liverpool

Not a few people will think Liverpool spent the remaining stamina in the remaining time to the Champions League final. It is not expected that Liverpool's performance will decline and fatigue. On the other hand, Madrid is getting more and more optimal every day. Liverpool's journey will be quite heavy at the end of this season.
But Liverpool also rotated players in the domestic league, but in the end they also played very well, I think the second tier players owned by Liverpool also have an optimal class, if I'm not mistaken it was reported that Mohamad Salah had an injury, but Liverpool made sure he would recover before The Champions League final takes place, this is what Real Madrid and Liverpool are worried about, when a core player is seriously injured, the team's performance will be greatly disrupted, so that rotation of players becomes a trick to keep the core players
I think Liverpool still play their core players before the Champions League, they only rotate players when they face Southampton in the Premier League, this is different from what their potential opponent Real Madrid has done where they have rotated players since the 35th week including when they drew 1-1 against Cadiz, in the last meeting of the two teams in domestic competition maybe Liverpool will try to play their core players because they have to win against wolverhampton and hope Manchester city loses to Aston villa, of course this will drain the energy of players Liverpool because next week they will face Real Madrid in the Champions League final
Real Madrid no longer have the burden in other matches, so they can rotate players freely, because they have secured the title bet much faster, while Liverpool still have a target in the Domestic League, to keep points and hope Manchester City lose in the last match, this is that sets the two clubs apart in the face of the Champions League Final, but that doesn't mean Liverpool don't look to the Champions League as a top priority this season

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May 22, 2022, 07:45:08 AM
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Real Madrid no longer have the burden in other matches, so they can rotate players freely, because they have secured the title bet much faster, while Liverpool still have a target in the Domestic League, to keep points and hope Manchester City lose in the last match, this is that sets the two clubs apart in the face of the Champions League Final, but that doesn't mean Liverpool don't look to the Champions League as a top priority this season

The point is that English fans usually value domestic competition more than external competition. Of course they want to win the Champions League, but Liverpool can't discolor Premier League, the fans wouldn't like it.

Therefore, the Liverpool coach will have to manage his squad very well, to be able to maintain a high competitive level in England, and reach the Champions League final with the physical capacity necessary to face Real Madrid.

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May 22, 2022, 08:43:53 AM
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The point is that English fans usually value domestic competition more than external competition. Of course they want to win the Champions League, but Liverpool can't discolor Premier League, the fans wouldn't like it.

Therefore, the Liverpool coach will have to manage his squad very well, to be able to maintain a high competitive level in England, and reach the Champions League final with the physical capacity necessary to face Real Madrid.
The domestic league is indeed the main attraction for England fans because the enthusiasm of the audience is very high in every domestic league. but basically the champions league final is the match that steals the world's attention the most because it will present the 2 strongest teams in the world. In this context, both teams will perform quite optimally and work hard to win the Champions League Trophy.

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May 22, 2022, 12:34:47 PM
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The point is that English fans usually value domestic competition more than external competition. Of course they want to win the Champions League, but Liverpool can't discolor Premier League, the fans wouldn't like it.

Therefore, the Liverpool coach will have to manage his squad very well, to be able to maintain a high competitive level in England, and reach the Champions League final with the physical capacity necessary to face Real Madrid.
The domestic league is indeed the main attraction for England fans because the enthusiasm of the audience is very high in every domestic league. but basically the champions league final is the match that steals the world's attention the most because it will present the 2 strongest teams in the world. In this context, both teams will perform quite optimally and work hard to win the Champions League Trophy.
Apart from all that, of course all teams want to win two titles at once, in this case their domestic league and also the Champions League which brings together the strengths of each league represented by their representatives according to the regulations that have been set. Today Liverpool have that opportunity even though in the domestic league it must be more difficult because they wait for Manchester City to drop their points first.

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May 22, 2022, 12:35:49 PM
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Real Madrid no longer have the burden in other matches, so they can rotate players freely, because they have secured the title bet much faster, while Liverpool still have a target in the Domestic League, to keep points and hope Manchester City lose in the last match, this is that sets the two clubs apart in the face of the Champions League Final, but that doesn't mean Liverpool don't look to the Champions League as a top priority this season

The point is that English fans usually value domestic competition more than external competition. Of course they want to win the Champions League, but Liverpool can't discolor Premier League, the fans wouldn't like it.

Therefore, the Liverpool coach will have to manage his squad very well, to be able to maintain a high competitive level in England, and reach the Champions League final with the physical capacity necessary to face Real Madrid.

This is always a big problem for English clubs in European competitions.
The English league is very long and hard and the English still have two different cup competitions.
For fans of English clubs, all these domestic competitions are very important, so it's very difficult to prepare players for European competitions because due to the large number of matches, players are more inclined to injuries and fatigue.
Real will have a slight advantage over Liverpool here because their players will have more rest and time to prepare.

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Tonight liferpol will face wolves in the domestic league, most likely Klopp will play all their main players, because winning is a fixed price for liferpol and hope Manchester city draws with Aston villa, if liferpol's main player gets injured tonight, it will definitely be This is a very big advantage for Real Madrid, because Real Madrid no longer has matches in all competitions, but with a time lag of one week, I think it is enough for Liferpol to restore the fitness of Liferpol players.
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Real Madrid no longer have the burden in other matches, so they can rotate players freely, because they have secured the title bet much faster, while Liverpool still have a target in the Domestic League, to keep points and hope Manchester City lose in the last match, this is that sets the two clubs apart in the face of the Champions League Final, but that doesn't mean Liverpool don't look to the Champions League as a top priority this season

The point is that English fans usually value domestic competition more than external competition. Of course they want to win the Champions League, but Liverpool can't discolor Premier League, the fans wouldn't like it.

Therefore, the Liverpool coach will have to manage his squad very well, to be able to maintain a high competitive level in England, and reach the Champions League final with the physical capacity necessary to face Real Madrid.

This is always a big problem for English clubs in European competitions.
The English league is very long and hard and the English still have two different cup competitions.
For fans of English clubs, all these domestic competitions are very important, so it's very difficult to prepare players for European competitions because due to the large number of matches, players are more inclined to injuries and fatigue.
Real will have a slight advantage over Liverpool here because their players will have more rest and time to prepare.


English clubs deal with this situation every year. They get over it, we have to give their rights in this regard. The good news is that there are not many injuries. I'm having a hard time understanding how they hold up. It requires a superhuman effort. I don't want there to be a shortage of players in the final due to injury. I hope what I fear does not happen and we will watch a good finale. My favorite is Liverpool. Both because of their situation in the league and because they came to the finals stronger.

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This is always a big problem for English clubs in European competitions.
The English league is very long and hard and the English still have two different cup competitions.
For fans of English clubs, all these domestic competitions are very important, so it's very difficult to prepare players for European competitions because due to the large number of matches, players are more inclined to injuries and fatigue.
Real will have a slight advantage over Liverpool here because their players will have more rest and time to prepare.

In this I agree with you, because Real Madrid took it easy and had time to prepare, as they confirmed the national conquest in the 34th round, even before the return game against Manchester City in the semi-final. So, since May 5th, all work is geared towards the continental decision.
Liverpool, in this same period, played in the FA Cup final, beating Chelsea on penalties after an intense 120 minutes, and continues in the point-to-point fight with Manchester City for the Premier League title.
Even with a rotation of players, Jürgen Klopp needs all of them to perform 100% on the pitch, so the physical and mental strain is really absurd.

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May 22, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
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Tonight liferpol will face wolves in the domestic league, most likely Klopp will play all their main players, because winning is a fixed price for liferpol and hope Manchester city draws with Aston villa, if liferpol's main player gets injured tonight, it will definitely be This is a very big advantage for Real Madrid, because Real Madrid no longer has matches in all competitions, but with a time lag of one week, I think it is enough for Liferpol to restore the fitness of Liferpol players.
This match also determines who will be the champion in the English Premier League. Liverpool will try that while hoping Manchester City don't get points in their game. The opportunity is still there even though it is very small. But this is football, anything can happen, even the impossible can happen here.

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May 22, 2022, 01:33:37 PM
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The domestic league is indeed the main attraction for England fans because the enthusiasm of the audience is very high in every domestic league. but basically the champions league final is the match that steals the world's attention the most because it will present the 2 strongest teams in the world. In this context, both teams will perform quite optimally and work hard to win the Champions League Trophy.
Many people can't wait to see the Champions League final this season because in the Champions League final this season is a team that has a lot of fans so that the enthusiasm of every spectator in the final match will definitely be very different so that the number of spectators in the stands and on the screen is like I think there will be a lot of television too because I'm sure the final will be very exciting.

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May 22, 2022, 01:39:43 PM
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Not a few people will think Liverpool spent the remaining stamina in the remaining time to the Champions League final. It is not expected that Liverpool's performance will decline and fatigue. On the other hand, Madrid is getting more and more optimal every day. Liverpool's journey will be quite heavy at the end of this season.
But Liverpool also rotated players in the domestic league, but in the end they also played very well, I think the second tier players owned by Liverpool also have an optimal class, if I'm not mistaken it was reported that Mohamad Salah had an injury, but Liverpool made sure he would recover before The Champions League final takes place, this is what Real Madrid and Liverpool are worried about, when a core player is seriously injured, the team's performance will be greatly disrupted, so that rotation of players becomes a trick to keep the core players
Jorgen Klopp does a big rotation in the domestic league, they didn't even play their main player when they faced Southampton in Week 37, a great tactician and has experience and can take every opportunity that comes, can certainly overcome all of that even in difficult circumstances, in the FA cup final jorgen Klopp played all their main players, but when facing Southampton Klopp dared to take the decision not to play Mohammad Salah, Luiz Diaz and Sadio Mane up front, I am very happy because liferpol have a very good tactician normal, and provide opportunities for young players to show their game on the field.
What's interesting is that Liverpool's second-tier players can adapt quickly, they play pretty well and are the same as the main players, I think Jorgen Klopp's rotation really has an effect on being ready for the Champions League final, this coach has vision and great mission in keeping players stable, just waiting for one more step for Liverpool

Not a few people will think Liverpool spent the remaining stamina in the remaining time to the Champions League final. It is not expected that Liverpool's performance will decline and fatigue. On the other hand, Madrid is getting more and more optimal every day. Liverpool's journey will be quite heavy at the end of this season.
But Liverpool also rotated players in the domestic league, but in the end they also played very well, I think the second tier players owned by Liverpool also have an optimal class, if I'm not mistaken it was reported that Mohamad Salah had an injury, but Liverpool made sure he would recover before The Champions League final takes place, this is what Real Madrid and Liverpool are worried about, when a core player is seriously injured, the team's performance will be greatly disrupted, so that rotation of players becomes a trick to keep the core players
I think Liverpool still play their core players before the Champions League, they only rotate players when they face Southampton in the Premier League, this is different from what their potential opponent Real Madrid has done where they have rotated players since the 35th week including when they drew 1-1 against Cadiz, in the last meeting of the two teams in domestic competition maybe Liverpool will try to play their core players because they have to win against wolverhampton and hope Manchester city loses to Aston villa, of course this will drain the energy of players Liverpool because next week they will face Real Madrid in the Champions League final
Real Madrid no longer have the burden in other matches, so they can rotate players freely, because they have secured the title bet much faster, while Liverpool still have a target in the Domestic League, to keep points and hope Manchester City lose in the last match, this is that sets the two clubs apart in the face of the Champions League Final, but that doesn't mean Liverpool don't look to the Champions League as a top priority this season

Today will be the day when many things become clear for Liverpool. They're going to play with their main squad and do their best. I think Manchester City and Liverpool will win their games and Manchester City will be champions by 1 point. After being eliminated by Real Madrid in the Champions League, the greatest gift City can give to their fans will be the Premier League championship.

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