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July 30, 2019, 06:45:16 AM
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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

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For me, this is possible to do, and honestly, I think the same way that maybe it can be computed or calculated, but I don't a more great mind to make it possible. Also, winning is not all about luck; sometimes, you need effort, skills, and especially a great mind to make it very easy. Stefan Mandel reminds me of the movie catch me if you can. Smiley
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July 30, 2019, 07:23:34 AM
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That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.
It's really a big lucky break for someone to have that knowledge and use it to win over the lottery, it's a huge earnings since lottery paid big winnings, if he break that and make it very usable for his advantage it will bring a huge amount of money to grab from the house.
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That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   Thats why I say its ridiculous that he should put in jail like he broke anything, it seems he took part legally and merely calculated the exact right time to buy up all available tickets.   Even then with probability you can still be wrong, hence he took a risk a good risk but its very unfair to punish fair risk reward.  

This type of calculation in lotteries has taken in a few countries a few different time by various groups.   Its almost always a group because the amounts required are millions usually to best maximise odds.

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July 30, 2019, 10:36:58 AM
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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.
Now you can see that lotteries are made for pure business, nothing more nothing less. Since some mathematician out there debunked or let's say know the patter to win they change the rules because they will lose more money if they let him continue. This is an eye-opening scenario, I hope some of you now realized that they are doing this not for amusement but mainly to empty your pockets.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   
Actually, I thought this strange thing only happens in movies and novel (I suddenly remember Sylvester of Scorpion) but I guess I was wrong. It was so amazing that math makes everything possible Smiley.
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July 30, 2019, 09:28:03 PM
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That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.
It's really a big lucky break for someone to have that knowledge and use it to win over the lottery, it's a huge earnings since lottery paid big winnings, if he break that and make it very usable for his advantage it will bring a huge amount of money to grab from the house.
Mandel is a very genius man who came up winning 12 times in a lottery. He is not just a lucky man, but has a very smart and brilliant mind too. Even if i have that one too, i will also make sure to make huge amounts not just in lottery but even in some other gambling sites too. He is not just an ordinary individual alone, but a gifted and blessed one.
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If this is an online thing the only way is to exploit the code.

There is no possible way this is casual, I have more chance to get a drink with Rihanna and Kendall Jenner on my bedroom at the same time then wins the lottery 12 times.

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July 31, 2019, 07:11:57 AM
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So this news is telling me that lottery is a game for geniuses, more specifically for Math Wizards that can even use quadratic formula in their own life? This is quite insane... It almost gave me the feeling that I should quit being an IT, but luckily it doesn't  Tongue

Winning for about 3 times is already enough but that guy is already insane. Really insane and might be a weird guy.
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August 01, 2019, 06:48:55 PM
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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.
Now you can see that lotteries are made for pure business, nothing more nothing less. Since some mathematician out there debunked or let's say know the patter to win they change the rules because they will lose more money if they let him continue. This is an eye-opening scenario, I hope some of you now realized that they are doing this not for amusement but mainly to empty your pockets.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   
Actually, I thought this strange thing only happens in movies and novel (I suddenly remember Sylvester of Scorpion) but I guess I was wrong. It was so amazing that math makes everything possible Smiley.
Yes this is possible to become winner if lottery even 100 time if you have such good luck. Buying lottery and then hopping for the best is another thing but buying lottery and winning is another thing. There are allot of people who are earning with good luck I am also one of them once i invest in lottery and won second price.
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August 03, 2019, 11:14:48 AM
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That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
Buying all the tickets is a good way to maximize the odds of winning at lottery. This is great trick but for such an execution, you of course need some good amount of dollars which normally not everyone around have. In a given scenario like mentioned in your post, it is not very difficult to be the winner provided you have the investor by your side. IN many cases, investors however do not fund people due to the low odds of success.

Convincing the investors was an easy part in those cases, because those were not regular lotteries, as you can find them today. What the guy was doing, he was looking for +EV lotteries, where all the previously unclaimed jackpots combined were to be split among the next round participants.

The most important part of the story is that the US authorities have changed the lottery rules since then, so the Mandel's trick can never be performed again.

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August 03, 2019, 12:04:05 PM
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That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
Buying all the tickets is a good way to maximize the odds of winning at lottery. This is great trick but for such an execution, you of course need some good amount of dollars which normally not everyone around have. In a given scenario like mentioned in your post, it is not very difficult to be the winner provided you have the investor by your side. IN many cases, investors however do not fund people due to the low odds of success.

Convincing the investors was an easy part in those cases, because those were not regular lotteries, as you can find them today. What the guy was doing, he was looking for +EV lotteries, where all the previously unclaimed jackpots combined were to be split among the next round participants.

The most important part of the story is that the US authorities have changed the lottery rules since then, so the Mandel's trick can never be performed again.

Mandel's trick is now a thing of the past, but because of this, lottery around the world make their bettors on equal chances, sometimes an anomaly can make something to correct a system for the betterment of everybody, maybe someone out there will try to exploit something in the new system. 

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August 03, 2019, 12:30:06 PM
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That is just amazing.

I heard the name before, as far as I know, we are arguing about the fact that the possibility in gambling is one in a million but our math teacher said that it is not that slim since people like him did an impossible, and used math. I think that is amazing and confusing at the same time. I am not a math wizard so I don't think that will be happening to other people. I also remembered the biggest Chine bank heist, this is the link to that video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzPJEO10, Credits to the owner of the Youtube Channel and video.

It is about a Chinese robbing the bank and then buying bulks of lottery tickets and if those won, they will take back what they have stolen and hope they can win more than they stole.
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That is just amazing.

I heard the name before, as far as I know, we are arguing about the fact that the possibility in gambling is one in a million but our math teacher said that it is not that slim since people like him did an impossible, and used math. I think that is amazing and confusing at the same time. I am not a math wizard so I don't think that will be happening to other people. I also remembered the biggest Chine bank heist, this is the link to that video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzPJEO10, Credits to the owner of the Youtube Channel and video.

It is about a Chinese robbing the bank and then buying bulks of lottery tickets and if those won, they will take back what they have stolen and hope they can win more than they stole.
Nice video but seems too different from the OP since the one you shared is a robber while the OP is legit mathematical genius.but I love the concept of those robbers in having a idea of returning the money they robbed when they can just simply do the robbery and run away because we are talking about a million bucks here

But in the end still one is indeed that gambling has nothing to bring us but troubles in life
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That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
Buying all the tickets is a good way to maximize the odds of winning at lottery. This is great trick but for such an execution, you of course need some good amount of dollars which normally not everyone around have. In a given scenario like mentioned in your post, it is not very difficult to be the winner provided you have the investor by your side. IN many cases, investors however do not fund people due to the low odds of success.

Convincing the investors was an easy part in those cases, because those were not regular lotteries, as you can find them today. What the guy was doing, he was looking for +EV lotteries, where all the previously unclaimed jackpots combined were to be split among the next round participants.

The most important part of the story is that the US authorities have changed the lottery rules since then, so the Mandel's trick can never be performed again.

Mandel's trick is now a thing of the past, but because of this, lottery around the world make their bettors on equal chances, sometimes an anomaly can make something to correct a system for the betterment of everybody, maybe someone out there will try to exploit something in the new system. 
Yes, someone will and that would be the time to upgrade the system again. So far, there's no news about of someone exploiting the lottery system with their mathematical geniuses brain to beat it. Maybe someone already did and they just been living among us trying to blend in the society just to maintain the balance of taking what they just need.

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August 03, 2019, 10:59:04 PM
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wow.. he is totally an genius and have a little luck.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now

I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

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I totally agree with should to be a mathematical genius, as Edward Thorp (The Father of Card Counting) said "try to figure out what your skill set is & apply that to the markets. if you are strong in computers and math, do the best with a quantitative approach". I think he is Edward Thorp student  Cheesy

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That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
Buying all the tickets is a good way to maximize the odds of winning at lottery. This is great trick but for such an execution, you of course need some good amount of dollars which normally not everyone around have. In a given scenario like mentioned in your post, it is not very difficult to be the winner provided you have the investor by your side. IN many cases, investors however do not fund people due to the low odds of success.

Convincing the investors was an easy part in those cases, because those were not regular lotteries, as you can find them today. What the guy was doing, he was looking for +EV lotteries, where all the previously unclaimed jackpots combined were to be split among the next round participants.

The most important part of the story is that the US authorities have changed the lottery rules since then, so the Mandel's trick can never be performed again.

Mandel's trick is now a thing of the past, but because of this, lottery around the world make their bettors on equal chances, sometimes an anomaly can make something to correct a system for the betterment of everybody, maybe someone out there will try to exploit something in the new system. 
Yes, someone will and that would be the time to upgrade the system again. So far, there's no news about of someone exploiting the lottery system with their mathematical geniuses brain to beat it. Maybe someone already did and they just been living among us trying to blend in the society just to maintain the balance of taking what they just need.
No this is not like this I think it is applicable to earn from lottery with your luck but stop saying that warning from lottery could be done with help of some mathematical formula or with a system acceptance.....no lottery is about luck and lucky people can win even 10000000 times.
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August 03, 2019, 11:43:00 PM
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That is just amazing.

I heard the name before, as far as I know, we are arguing about the fact that the possibility in gambling is one in a million but our math teacher said that it is not that slim since people like him did an impossible, and used math. I think that is amazing and confusing at the same time. I am not a math wizard so I don't think that will be happening to other people. I also remembered the biggest Chine bank heist, this is the link to that video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzPJEO10, Credits to the owner of the Youtube Channel and video.

It is about a Chinese robbing the bank and then buying bulks of lottery tickets and if those won, they will take back what they have stolen and hope they can win more than they stole.
Nice video but seems too different from the OP since the one you shared is a robber while the OP is legit mathematical genius.but I love the concept of those robbers in having a idea of returning the money they robbed when they can just simply do the robbery and run away because we are talking about a million bucks here

But in the end still one is indeed that gambling has nothing to bring us but troubles in life
Gambling will really cause us troubles if we tend to abuse it too.But i still believe gambling is still good enough if its done with discipline.Mandel is really a smart and genius person that he come up winning 12 times in lottery which i think chances for winning is very rare.I have never heard this story happening in my own country.A lot of people have been buying lottery tickets most of the time but still end up losing.

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August 04, 2019, 05:14:47 PM
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If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

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August 04, 2019, 06:54:47 PM
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If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?
Are you serious?

Why would the government arrest him if he doesn't do anything wrong?
It's a pure knowledge and skill that he applies to the game, he didn't cheat.
Lottery requires predictions but it's just optional, it depends on you if you will use some different strategy.

I don't like smart-shaming, he just use his brain.
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August 05, 2019, 01:39:03 AM
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The post by OP has made a lot of us think as if we are so unlucky that we never win in lottery and this magical man have won it 12 times in a row. This man is only one who is most luckiest person and you will not find any other individual who is too much lucky.
Can't tell that as a lucky thing, besides he used some mathematical equations to predict the winning numbers of that lottery game, so even given by that it would definitely increase his chances of winnings not just by pure luck for he already wasted some effort just to know the answers he's been finding for some quite time, and it really pays him off. This guy is quite telling us to be a genius in math and already proves us that math can be used on anything. LMAO.

(i might just do that if earth is back on the stone world, LOL)
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August 05, 2019, 04:19:33 AM
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Back in the old days I though mathematical studies are just a waste of time, the only exception is when we go to colleges we can use it if we study engineering. my thoughts we\re deceiving me that time when I was growing up I realize that math studies can be used to improve your mind on solving everyday activities it can make you a fast thinker as well.
Same goes for me mate, I really thought that only when you take the Engineering Track will be Mathematically Worthy of studying Math. Oh, wanna add some more, even on ANIME, they show you different usage of math in their everyday lives, I really didn't think such man exist nowadays, besides people now are kinda lazy,... Solving math problems is such a hassle. And yet we don't have a clue that in can also be used in gambling, and playing strategic games to win easy in every round,...
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