Man won 12 times in lottery

[maydna]

Not worth the risk. No matter how many tickets you buy or how many lottery syndicates you join, the odds against the player are massive. It's still a big gamble. Too many people have spent years and tens of thousands of dollars chasing that elusive big win, only to die poor. No thanks. I'm not sold.

Yes, of course, that is not worth if we don't know or don't have good skills in cracking the code like that person. But if we have high-skills like him, I guess we will try to beat the system, and with our skills, we will try hard and perhaps, we have a chance to win like him. But still, that will be too risky for us because we can get caught by the system and that will be dangerous to us because we can get jail. I won't do that thing too like you because besides I don't have the skills to crack the code, I know that if I want to play or buy the lottery, I will need much money and that doesn't guarantee for me to win the prizes.

[Barbut]

Not worth the risk. No matter how many tickets you buy or how many lottery syndicates you join, the odds against the player are massive. It's still a big gamble. Too many people have spent years and tens of thousands of dollars chasing that elusive big win, only to die poor. No thanks. I'm not sold.

Yes, of course, that is not worth if we don't know or don't have good skills in cracking the code like that person. But if we have high-skills like him, I guess we will try to beat the system, and with our skills, we will try hard and perhaps, we have a chance to win like him. But still, that will be too risky for us because we can get caught by the system and that will be dangerous to us because we can get jail. I won't do that thing too like you because besides I don't have the skills to crack the code, I know that if I want to play or buy the lottery, I will need much money and that doesn't guarantee for me to win the prizes.

What people don`t understand is that for every system you need a lot of money to run it, there`s a minimum investment to cover basics and there`s always maximum investment to cover everything. If you noticed in the entire video we didn`t see how many lottery tickets he bought for every lottery, he didn`t win with just one ticket, he needed combinations, and more combinations mean more tickets, more tickets mean higher investment. He only states that you need to calculate possible combinations and lottery prize needs to be at least 3 times as big as the number of combinations. For a lottery that has 37 numbers, you need millions of dollars!

[slaman29]

I heard of this before and in fact even in small systems of gambling, especially with the ones that rely on horse bets, where the odds are always changed depending on demand, people can go in and manipulate the odds by placing big bets on some horses, and eventually whatever result, they make money.

Some people are math geniuses indeed, but I wouldn't say that's something you can always rely on:)

[Thanasis]

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Are you serious?

Why would the government arrest him if he doesn't do anything wrong?
It's a pure knowledge and skill that he applies to the game, he didn't cheat.
Lottery requires predictions but it's just optional, it depends on you if you will use some different strategy.

I don't like smart-shaming, he just use his brain.

Having a lot of people help you, or maybe invest in your ploy by giving you money to buy a lot of tickets, yes, they buy millions and millions of ticket and that is the reason they are winning. If you are owning a lottery game, would you allow it? Oh, and also they are printing tickets in their houses if he can only predict really and buy only one ticket, that would obviously not be cheating. Also, it is the government limiting his winnings since, it is the government. They don't want that kind of tactics so people could earn money except if that is them.

So its flaw on government side if they want that player to be restricted from playing without any cheats,even the lottery will lose its credibility if someone keep winning by computing the results so I guess that user cheated on someway that is why he arrested.

[MFahad]

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.

[Thanasis]

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.

Did you forget to read the question mark at last?

I am just asking the same thing you were asked.

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

So cheating is possible if there is some insiders.

[cabalism13]

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

[Juggy777]

I heard of this before and in fact even in small systems of gambling, especially with the ones that rely on horse bets, where the odds are always changed depending on demand, people can go in and manipulate the odds by placing big bets on some horses, and eventually whatever result, they make money.

Some people are math geniuses indeed, but I wouldn't say that's something you can always rely on:)

I am having a hard time believing that he was able to do it for 12 times without getting caught, he was lucky but at the same time very greedy too. @slaman29 yes people do it on horse races, and their calculations will stun people because we can’t even think the way they calculate in their minds. I’ll agree with you relying on maths is a bad idea, because casinos are evolving and chances are one can get it completely wrong and incur lots of debts.

[Japinat]

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check because chances of winning in a lottery is almost zero, or less than 1%. Maybe if you are the one operating a lottery, that's what you called yourself investing in.

[maydna]

Not worth the risk. No matter how many tickets you buy or how many lottery syndicates you join, the odds against the player are massive. It's still a big gamble. Too many people have spent years and tens of thousands of dollars chasing that elusive big win, only to die poor. No thanks. I'm not sold.

Yes, of course, that is not worth if we don't know or don't have good skills in cracking the code like that person. But if we have high-skills like him, I guess we will try to beat the system, and with our skills, we will try hard and perhaps, we have a chance to win like him. But still, that will be too risky for us because we can get caught by the system and that will be dangerous to us because we can get jail. I won't do that thing too like you because besides I don't have the skills to crack the code, I know that if I want to play or buy the lottery, I will need much money and that doesn't guarantee for me to win the prizes.

What people don`t understand is that for every system you need a lot of money to run it, there`s a minimum investment to cover basics and there`s always maximum investment to cover everything. If you noticed in the entire video we didn`t see how many lottery tickets he bought for every lottery, he didn`t win with just one ticket, he needed combinations, and more combinations mean more tickets, more tickets mean higher investment. He only states that you need to calculate possible combinations and lottery prize needs to be at least 3 times as big as the number of combinations. For a lottery that has 37 numbers, you need millions of dollars!

The answer to this is because the prizes are too big so he can not distract his mind to other things. The video will not show how many tickets he bought because that will not make people interest with the lottery. Perhaps, we only saw some tickets from him, but I guess that will be more than 100 tickets and I think he spends a lot of money. The truth from this is we cannot win easy the lottery without having luck, but it seems, people don't realize about that, and they still hoping to win the prize from the lottery. Yes, million dollars will be needed to win the game, and we don't realize how much money we spent in the end.

[Barbut]

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The answer to this is because the prizes are too big so he can not distract his mind to other things. The video will not show how many tickets he bought because that will not make people interest with the lottery. Perhaps, we only saw some tickets from him, but I guess that will be more than 100 tickets and I think he spends a lot of money. The truth from this is we cannot win easy the lottery without having luck, but it seems, people don't realize about that, and they still hoping to win the prize from the lottery. Yes, million dollars will be needed to win the game, and we don't realize how much money we spent in the end.

My friend, not 100 tickets, here we speak about million tickets at least. Check around, people have tried this already, and they did the math.
The Mega Millions jackpot is up to $1.6 billion. 302,575,350 possible combinations of Mega Millions numbers. At $2 for each ticket, then, it would be possible to buy every possible ticket for $605,150,700.

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/mega-millions-lottery-buying-every-ticket-math-2018-10
How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery?The math whizzes quickly discovered that buying about $100,000 in Cash WinFall tickets on those days would virtually guarantee success. Buying $600,000 worth of tickets would bring a 15%–20% return on investment.
Source: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/07/how-mit-students-scammed-the-massachusetts-lottery-for-8-million/

Even if you have so much money, buying tickets would still be a problem, you can`t buy all of them in one place! The machine generates some amount of tickets per hour (I found information around 50 tickets per hour) if you need millions of tickets you will need many people going around buying tickets for all 5 days of the week.

[Malsetid]

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check because chances of winning in a lottery is almost zero, or less than 1%. Maybe if you are the one operating a lottery, that's what you called yourself investing in.

Lol. I don't even think lotteries should be in the same discussion as investments 😁 any sensible person would know there's a world of difference there. And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times? I've heard stories back in the days of how lotteries can be rigged through magnets inside the lottery balls. I'm not so sure how that can work now.

[cabalism13]

And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times?

Nope. Imagine this, if you have won already a jackpot then make a bet on all combinations to it, then surely you'll hit the jackpot again, but in terms of lottery with random draw then it would be impossible, even if it happens twice on the same person then that would just be luck.
P.S. Not all lottery games has the same system, features and rules. So every strategy varies on every game.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check ...

Yeah right. Besides playing lottery is just like turning your money into an airplane and throw it while expecting, it will return back to the owner.

[maydna]

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My friend, not 100 tickets, here we speak about million tickets at least. Check around, people have tried this already, and they did the math.
The Mega Millions jackpot is up to $1.6 billion. 302,575,350 possible combinations of Mega Millions numbers. At $2 for each ticket, then, it would be possible to buy every possible ticket for $605,150,700.

To be honest, I am shocked to see what you're explaining, and I never thought that involves big money to win. I never calculated or searching about how much chance for people to win the lottery and when I see your image, geez that is huge money we need to win.

Even if you have so much money, buying tickets would still be a problem, you can`t buy all of them in one place! The machine generates some amount of tickets per hour (I found information around 50 tickets per hour) if you need millions of tickets you will need many people going around buying tickets for all 5 days of the week.

I don't think that one person can buy a lot of ticket at the same time, and I think the casino or gambling places would not allow people to do that. But perhaps, we could ask our friends to buy a lot of tickets, and we can make a queue with other people in the gambling places hahaha.

So we know that the chance for one person to win the lottery is small. We cannot buy a lot of tickets because we could only buy 50 tickets per hour and we need more people or friends to help us to buy the tickets. That is why the lottery places can make a huge profit from people who bought the lottery tickets.

[MFahad]

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.

Did you forget to read the question mark at last?

I am just asking the same thing you were asked.

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

So cheating is possible if there is some insiders.

Oh i really forget to see it, Actually, i was so surprised on it that anyone could think like it. That someone win the lottery and police arrest him? 

[Best Dreams]

And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times?

Nope. Imagine this, if you have won already a jackpot then make a bet on all combinations to it, then surely you'll hit the jackpot again, but in terms of lottery with random draw then it would be impossible, even if it happens twice on the same person then that would just be luck.
P.S. Not all lottery games has the same system, features and rules. So every strategy varies on every game.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check ...

Yeah right. Besides playing lottery is just like turning your money into an airplane and throw it while expecting, it will return back to the owner.

This is the reason why most people feel happy to check their luck in lottery as much as I know lottery is about luck to win and same as the person said no one  can take your luck and what you deserve will surely come to you. I am happy that I have  some lottery tickets in my saving and now praying to be lucky.

[Spaffin]

Actually, I’m starting to be skeptical about such a situation, because 12 consecutive wins is like an abuse of my capabilities by the administration.  Repeatedly in several countries, legal proceedings were held against several companies where the results of the lottery were faked.

[vintages]

I guess this complement this thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172095.0
Personally I wouldn't have thought lottery can be better than slot or casino gambling. Well, this also implies that nothing is impossible.
Using mathematical means to crack the likely number is good but the process may take quite sometime. If one is always certain about the numbers then the long wait is worth it.

[MonsterV]

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Lol. I don't even think lotteries should be in the same discussion as investments 😁 any sensible person would know there's a world of difference there. And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times? I've heard stories back in the days of how lotteries can be rigged through magnets inside the lottery balls. I'm not so sure how that can work now.

Haha I think the lottery is gambling and gambling is not an investment even investment is not the same as trading.
And it does sound strange to win the lottery 12 times in a row, even that is impossible for me. If that's true, I'm sure people who play the lottery have understood the lottery rules on the site or know the bugs, like in online games, I find a lot of youtube videos that explain bugs to get jackpot items in the game and I've tried it myself, maybe he does things like that.

[Best Dreams]

I guess this complement this thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172095.0
Personally I wouldn't have thought lottery can be better than slot or casino gambling. Well, this also implies that nothing is impossible.
Using mathematical means to crack the likely number is good but the process may take quite sometime. If one is always certain about the numbers then the long wait is worth it.

As he mentioned that he won 12 times it means he must bought allot of tickets and all of h must cost small amount. I once bought a ticket and I won but unfortunately after that I never get a chance to buy but still not late i will try to buy this time if ever got a chance. Yet I am investing in crypto wish me to be lucky same as the person buddy.