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July 23, 2019, 10:00:39 AM
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I wonder how he does that. Grin but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.


Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see. Smiley

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

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July 23, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
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I wonder how he does that. Grin but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.


Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see. Smiley

I think the most important part is the following:

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

I have to agree with you, as it is just about probability. We don't have to be genius but we should know how to calculate about the probability of hitting the jackpot compared to how many tickets should be bought in order to make profit. Mandel was just smarter than the one who set the lottery rules as well as smarter than other people so he could calculate the probability to buy the lottery tickets. I do believe he spent a lot of money for it to win that many winnings in the lottery. I can say that he is genius or he exploited the lottery if he won it anytime he buy it with low number of tickets.

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July 23, 2019, 10:34:41 AM
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I wonder how he does that. Grin but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.


Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see. Smiley

I think the most important part is the following:

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.
So this made the man historical not just in gambling but the whole world?anyway this is not the act that we can see for our lifetime atleast and will never saw again in the future

The man is really a genius and only in the world.

Why not he didn’t become a Cryptonians so maybe he had shared the skills to others or even share the blessings to us here in gambling section 😂
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July 23, 2019, 11:15:11 AM
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I wonder if IRL casinos allow him to play.
Btw, it is said, that he "got prisoned". What for ? For being a "mathematical genius"? That's a shame  Cheesy
You would able to answer those questions if you tend to watch up the video.
I did watch the video and i would say that it is really possible to hit up jackpots come to think on spending

I would have watched it, but sadly youtube says that “this video is unavailable in your country”...
So this is a region-locked youtube video.So it means that your country does sensor any related videos too.So better use up some VPN to view out these things but be careful yet bypassing or violating
your countries laws can put you in harm.

I've searched about this guy and I find his winning isn't so amazing and impressive because I found out that he bet all possible combination. I though he is really someone that cracked the code and won 14 times in lottery. He successfully gather investors resulted into 14x victory but he is now bankrupt according to what I've read. Tbh, winning one time with pure luck is more awesome to me.
No he wasnt bankrupt but rather he got imprisoned and being banned on doing lotteries due to that all-betting combination method.This isnt actually cracking a code but rather a simple
betting on all possible combinations.

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July 23, 2019, 11:33:33 AM
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He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.
We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.
Agree to that, every government have different rules maybe it can be done from one place but not at the other side of the world, if he really did crack the algorithm of the lotto system and repeated it more and more, like what you have said the eyes for him will surely be hot placing him to person of interest in terms of lottery games.

Lottery jackpot is huge, so winning from this kind gambling is really noticeable.
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July 23, 2019, 01:25:51 PM
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He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.
We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.
well according to Daily Herald it was Stefan Mandel who was a Math genius and learnt about the algorithm of lottery in Romania and soon migrated to Australia

actually it wasn't 12x but 14 wins from lottery game.and he has lot of investors to have capital in betting the combinations needed to make a win.but now according also to the article he is already bankrupt and had to go in prison several times
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July 23, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
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Not all people are capable to do that and only few would risk just to attempt what he did. Sadly as common to many gamblers, he got greedy and repeated it for 12 times making him to alert the government then jail him in the end.

I got intrigued by the story so I googled him. What he did was not illegal because he waited for the prize to reach 3 times the number of potential winning combinations. The government cannot arrest him because he has done nothing wrong. He got jailed because he committed some investment scams. He also did not pay his investors and declared bankruptcy.

source: https://allthatsinteresting.com/stefan-mandel
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July 23, 2019, 02:31:28 PM
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Not all people are capable to do that and only few would risk just to attempt what he did. Sadly as common to many gamblers, he got greedy and repeated it for 12 times making him to alert the government then jail him in the end.

I got intrigued by the story so I googled him. What he did was not illegal because he waited for the prize to reach 3 times the number of potential winning combinations. The government cannot arrest him because he has done nothing wrong. He got jailed because he committed some investment scams. He also did not pay his investors and declared bankruptcy.

source: https://allthatsinteresting.com/stefan-mandel

it's possible that a syndicate like this is working on the lottery in any country because it is well documented, the only disadvantages is when two or more people hit the jackpot and they will have to share the jackpot prize between them, he will break even or even lose if this scenario happens.

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July 23, 2019, 03:30:48 PM
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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

I always wonder how do the numbers from a lottery got picked every draw, now I know that this algorithms are the answer. What a genius indeed! Winning once in a lottery can be considered as luck, but 12 times? Man. He really got the answer. All I can say is if he knew the answer like that, he shouldn't have used it that way in order to prove his equation, he should have already known that it is right after winning 12 times.
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July 23, 2019, 03:40:46 PM
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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

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https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

I don't have even the idea that its possible to win 12 times in lottery,that man is so lucky  hes the most happiest now for his entire life.He can have what he wants and have the time to be happy and be merry in hes entire life
you can easily watch the linked video in youtube to find it out buddy,and the name is clearly says it was Stefen Mandel ,just search in google his story is very popular

though the man wasn't really successful and also his investors falls with him so it was not a good venture after all

That's awesome win mate and keep it up.

are you serious?it was not OP who wins the game lol
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This type of winning are actually very rare to have and to see but this guy made it and prove to us that jackpot can be worn and reworn without any stress. With the advent of Artificial intelligent, you broke the law and went straight to winning zone, congratulations once again mate.
check the link please and find out if this is really no stress lol;,they have made a lot of courage and works to make this happen
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July 23, 2019, 04:24:30 PM
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That's awesome win mate and keep it up. This type of winning are actually very rare to have and to see but this guy made it and prove to us that jackpot can be worn and reworn without any stress. With the advent of Artificial intelligent, you broke the law and went straight to winning zone, congratulations once again mate.
You are basically making some shitpost on here without even reading up on the topic.OP isn't the winner and try to look up that youtube link

before on making any comments because you actually look dumb on what you are trying to say here.

This isn't a genius thinking but only betting all the numbers.This require big money and support.
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July 23, 2019, 04:29:12 PM
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Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

You are very right that it is almost impossible to win a single lottery and wining it by 12 consecutive times is just unbelievable. I never knew that any formula can be developed which can make you win a lottery but now I realized that nothing is impossible. I still unable to believe he won lottery 12 times.  Roll Eyes

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July 23, 2019, 04:33:54 PM
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Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

You are very right that it is almost impossible to win a single lottery and wining it by 12 consecutive times is just unbelievable. I never knew that any formula can be developed which can make you win a lottery but now I realized that nothing is impossible. I still unable to believe he won lottery 12 times.  Roll Eyes
For sure this is history of lottery of 1 man only who win 12 times in lottery and he maybe after few months he win again because he formula he developed was really effective for winning. A person are very happy to win even 1 in lottery to change their life what more him he is very rich for sure and become richer.
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July 23, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
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I think we've talked about this guy before on a different thread but yes, he's a mathematician from what I remember was the former USSR and even before this lotto adventure, he already used his math skills to win money to be able to escape to the US.

I obviously don't know how they print and distribute the tickets but that's one reason he had some success... the combinations were preprinted on the tickets. IIRC there was a woman in the US who figured out the distribution of tickets and befriended the staff in one of the establishments to reserve tickets for her.

If it's the ball-drawn lotto, it would have been much harder for them to win and they would have to rely on having as much entries as possible to get a decent chance at the prize.
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July 23, 2019, 06:28:46 PM
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To achieve such a winning is possible with any user who can study the way to pick lotteries. Along with this such a winning is possible only by spending big on choosing more numbers. This increases the probability of winning, in simple if there is 1000 slots and if the 500 slots is being taken by a single person he'll get more chance of winning. This is what happened with the man winning 12 times.

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To achieve such a winning is possible with any user who can study the way to pick lotteries. Along with this such a winning is possible only by spending big on choosing more numbers. This increases the probability of winning, in simple if there is 1000 slots and if the 500 slots is being taken by a single person he'll get more chance of winning. This is what happened with the man winning 12 times.

It's just based on pure luck, and I don't think that the man will likely to spend a lot of money buying more tickets to increased his chances of winning.

There are millions if not billions of combinations, maybe what he did is just stick to the numbers and just hope that it will be the winning draw. He maybe smart, but sometimes if lady luck is in your side then nobody can stop your winning many times.
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Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

You are very right that it is almost impossible to win a single lottery and wining it by 12 consecutive times is just unbelievable. I never knew that any formula can be developed which can make you win a lottery but now I realized that nothing is impossible. I still unable to believe he won lottery 12 times.  Roll Eyes

Sometimes we have to think, we are too stupid or he is too smart. I also just realized that every game has its own mathematics and only great people can solve it. If you've heard of the story of Thorp being banned from playing blackjack because he is smart at calculating opportunities, the story is almost the same as the man in the OP video.
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July 23, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
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Why do you describe it as cheating? Cheating typically means you have broken the rules. If he had broken the terms and conditions (i.e. 'the rules') then he wouldn't have actually won the lottery, or been awarded the prizes.

I would say that whatever he did was likely well within the rules, hence why he won his money fair and square.
cracking the code or hacking in a bad way is illegal and its always against the rules  . fair sqaure means you play normally without any hacking or other mathematical equations other than chosing a ranom number based on your mind or based on your birthdate , anniversary date  , and other important dates  .

That will need more skills to crack the code or hacking, and I don't think that it is easy to do. But the most reason why he can win the lottery, he is at the right time and in the right place, and besides that, he got big luck while he plays so he can win the lottery. If he uses a random method or random number to crack, that will be more difficult to crack the code.

I personally believe that if there is a system that can forcibly increase luck, then it should be grabbed with both hands.

This guy thought his way into winning millions, gotta give him a hand for that.
thats impossible , luck comes naturally from person to person and no system can give you an instant luck or a longer validity of luck for certain type of gambling   .  im surprised that your still proud of the guy despite of his inpapropriate behavior  .

Yes, that will be impossible because luck is not something we can understand easily. I think he can do that again in the future because I am sure that the casino will change their algorithm so no one can crack their game again.
Why this is not possible?? For me this is possible because when you buy lottery your winning will become almost all about your luck so if you are lucky yes you can win even 100 times. I have seen allot of people who won lottery so many times because of luck you only need to stay careful while choosing a trust worthy website to buy a ticket from.

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July 23, 2019, 07:51:52 PM
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This is definitive proof of winning the lottery, We need to be geniuses and do math. This genius has been able to win several times I really was very surprised, Now I think I did the same, but it seems frustrating.
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July 23, 2019, 08:07:45 PM
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This is definitive proof of winning the lottery, We need to be geniuses and do math. This genius has been able to win several times I really was very surprised, Now I think I did the same, but it seems frustrating.
That's good, there's no harm in trying to find a way to win in the lottery. We realize this is impossible to do now. Because a genius in mathematics or an algorithm is certainly very difficult to learn about it. So, if there is another way to win the lottery. Maybe it can be shared here  Wink
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