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[shield132]

Wow, this is something new. I was always looking for dice website that would have this kind of options but seems all of them failed in this aspect and finally wolfbet shined there. Like this new addition, tested and seems to be work fine, both, expert mode and default strategies. Hope the list of default strategies will change over time and more and more strategies will be added, while more functions won't be a bad too, especially if it gives us possibility to analyze our past bets and have more details charts in overall.
Save strategy option shines too.

[serjent05]

Wow, this is something new. I was always looking for dice website that would have this kind of options but seems all of them failed in this aspect and finally wolfbet shined there. Like this new addition, tested and seems to be work fine, both, expert mode and default strategies. Hope the list of default strategies will change over time and more and more strategies will be added, while more functions won't be a bad too, especially if it gives us possibility to analyze our past bets and have more details charts in overall.
Save strategy option shines too.

It is really great!  Saves me a lot of time changing bets in every condition.  The good thing with this strategy is we can modify the condition according to our likings. Great job there wolf.bet!

[carlfebz2]

Wow, this is something new. I was always looking for dice website that would have this kind of options but seems all of them failed in this aspect and finally wolfbet shined there. Like this new addition, tested and seems to be work fine, both, expert mode and default strategies. Hope the list of default strategies will change over time and more and more strategies will be added, while more functions won't be a bad too, especially if it gives us possibility to analyze our past bets and have more details charts in overall.
Save strategy option shines too.

It is really great!  Saves me a lot of time changing bets in every condition.  The good thing with this strategy is we can modify the condition according to our likings. Great job there wolf.bet!

Agree! and this is a good add up and checked out the default strategies and im not aware of that Paroli and d,alembert. lol


This do really less up the hassle on setting up things..A very nice add up Wolf.bet team!

[deisik]

This do really less up the hassle on setting up things..A very nice add up Wolf.bet team!

I'm a little surprised myself. Many casinos are actually trying to prevent people from utilizing martingale in a productive way by, for example, setting the minimum bet size to an amount which makes martingale an exercise in stupidity and futility. Wolf.bet seems to be turning the tables in favor of gamblers, and I'm utterly interested to see how other kids on the block are going to react, whether they will follow the lead or continue to lose their user base

To sum it up, expect more agenda and loaded stuff flowing in here

[panjul07]

Great upgrade on the autobet features as it includes some ready to use strategies. Players do not need to set up the strategy manually.
I have never seen any sites with such features before so I think wolf.bet is the first one to implement this feature.
Most other sites are using 3rd party dicebot or players need to create their own script in order to use such strategies.
I think other sites will follow it in the near future if it will be a succeed feature that be used by many players.
Any news or clues that wolf.bet will add more games in the near future?

[skarais]

Great upgrade on the autobet features as it includes some ready to use strategies. Players do not need to set up the strategy manually.

By the way, I have tried a number of strategies that have been added to the update and it is very easy. Even though the strategy is set in such a way but we also can still change the amount of the bet based on the desire. But gambling strategies really cant be considered as something that will invite great success and victory. The strategy is only to increase opportunities and opportunities and should not be practiced to get rich quickly. Be careful because in the end there is no strategy that really gives a big advantage for gambler.

Any news or clues that wolf.bet will add more games in the near future?

It seems that there is no news about the addition of new games in the near future on the wolf.bet site.

[serjent05]

Great upgrade on the autobet features as it includes some ready to use strategies. Players do not need to set up the strategy manually.

By the way, I have tried a number of strategies that have been added to the update and it is very easy. Even though the strategy is set in such a way but we also can still change the amount of the bet based on the desire. But gambling strategies really cant be considered as something that will invite great success and victory. The strategy is only to increase opportunities and opportunities and should not be practiced to get rich quickly. Be careful because in the end there is no strategy that really gives a big advantage for gambler.

There are some for a short period of time but for a prolonged session, it nullifies the advantage.  Aside from that, the player should always play what they can afford to lose so that there will be no regret at the end.  

I believe this strategy update is not for the player or for the site to increase winning percentage but rather for the ease of setting up auto rolls especially that strategy save option in the current update, in short, to save time and enjoy the game asap.

[carlfebz2]

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I'm a little surprised myself. Many casinos are actually trying to prevent people from utilizing martingale in a productive way by, for example, setting the minimum bet size to an amount which makes martingale an exercise in stupidity and futility. Wolf.bet seems to be turning the tables in favor of gamblers, and I'm utterly interested to see how other kids on the block are going to react, whether they will follow the lead or continue to lose their user base

To sum it up, expect more agenda and loaded stuff flowing in here

You're definitely right on what you have said!

Gambling sites doesnt really like when it comes to utilizing out strategies that can possibly go against them but we are seeing the different thing here now.

When it comes to other gambling sites on seeing this stuff then i wont be surprised if soon they would consider such feature into theirs.

[serjent05]

Gambling sites doesnt really like when it comes to utilizing out strategies that can possibly go against them but we are seeing the different thing here now.

When it comes to other gambling sites on seeing this stuff then i wont be surprised if soon they would consider such feature into theirs.

Well, if this update makes a buzz in the industry, then expect other sites to follow.  I really love to see wolf.bet creating a trend for the gambling industry especially those updates that most of the casino sees as taboo but is actually legit stuff.

[Emitdama]

Great upgrade on the autobet features as it includes some ready to use strategies. Players do not need to set up the strategy manually.

By the way, I have tried a number of strategies that have been added to the update and it is very easy. Even though the strategy is set in such a way but we also can still change the amount of the bet based on the desire. But gambling strategies really cant be considered as something that will invite great success and victory. The strategy is only to increase opportunities and opportunities and should not be practiced to get rich quickly. Be careful because in the end there is no strategy that really gives a big advantage for gambler.

There are some for a short period of time but for a prolonged session, it nullifies the advantage.  Aside from that, the player should always play what they can afford to lose so that there will be no regret at the end.  

I believe this strategy update is not for the player or for the site to increase winning percentage but rather for the ease of setting up auto rolls especially that strategy save option in the current update, in short, to save time and enjoy the game asap.

I have always said that any strategy that you are dealing with will only hurt you by giving you a look that you are going to win something whereas you are not going to. So in the end, this is not only hurting you but also makes you think that you may not be hurt at all. Don't get me wrong, it is awesome for wolf.bet to add this because people would do it themselves anyway, so it is just making it easier for people to use it instead of doing it all themselves.

However I just wanted to warn people that yes martingale could make you money in the short term and most of the time, but that one bad streak of losses could mean losing all of your money. Which is why I support wolf.bets decision to add a feature like this which is awesome but I would warn people to be careful with them as well.

[deisik]

However I just wanted to warn people that yes martingale could make you money in the short term and most of the time, but that one bad streak of losses could mean losing all of your money. Which is why I support wolf.bets decision to add a feature like this which is awesome but I would warn people to be careful with them as well

It is not martingale that is at fault here

It is how you use it, to great success or tragic failure, as with any powerful device you can easily shoot yourself in the foot (read, you should blame yourself for your failure with it). Anyway, this is not the right place to discuss whether martingale is a working strategy or not, but let me just say that it is, specifically on finite timescales (statistically speaking). That's why it can be employed to ruin a casino if most gamblers start using it cautiously and wisely. Altogether, you could simply say that people shouldn't gamble, and get done with that

[justdimin]

^That cannot right at all, not even close to being right. Casinos would love it if people would gamble in martingale, that way they would be capable of actually making a lot more profit as well.

I mean right now people are actually losing money with martingale, why? Because if you gamble it long enough you are going to get 10+ time lose in a row and you are going to run out of max bet and you are not going to profit anymore. This is why I think gamblers playing martingale is better for the casinos, they want people to do that. What I say about wolf.bet putting premade strategies is the fact that you are going to lose a lot more money to them, and they are going to profit from this, which is why it makes no sense to actually congratulate them on something like this.

[deisik]

To sum it up, expect more agenda and loaded stuff flowing in here

It didn't take long

[DarkStar_]

To sum it up, expect more agenda and loaded stuff flowing in here

It didn't take long

If you're going to be ignorant about how casinos function and why martingale is a bad strategy both in the short term and long term, don't be surprised if people attack your incorrect opinion. Martingale 'forces' players to wager more, so casinos get a lot more EV out of their wagering. A player trying to win 10% profit is very likely going to be wagering more from martingale than they are with a single 1.1x, so their odds of winning are lower. (edit: this might be incorrect and dependent on a few variables. I can say that running 2x martingale with a lower stake will always be worse than just betting 10% of your bankroll on 2x from an EV standpoint). That's why the most optimal way to gamble is to use smaller bets with a high multiplier. dooglus explains this pretty simply:

I think the optimal strategy is the one which expects to risk the least in total, since you expect to lose 1% of everything you risk.

To win 1 BTC betting with a 1.2x multiplier you need to risk at least 5 BTC, and you can expect to lose at least 5 times as much as a simple all-in with 2x multiplier (since that way you only risk 1 BTC in total).

Would be great to see a source for this too:

Many casinos are actually trying to prevent people from utilizing martingale in a productive way by,

The vast majority of sites offer auto betting, 1 satoshi minimum bets and a easy "change bet by x% on loss" setting.

[deisik]

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This is off-topic here. If you want to continue, ask the mod to unlock this thread (reading it won't hurt either) or start a new one (I will join you there)

Are we clear?

[DarkStar_]

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This is off-topic here. If you want to continue, ask the mod to unlock this thread (reading it won't hurt either) or start a new one (I will join you there)

Are we clear?

You're welcome to report it and have a mod delete the posts. I don't see how unlocking a spam megathread helps either, and I'm not reading through an 11 page thread of spam and people who might be even more misinformed than you.

My opinion is that it isn't off-topic (though maybe these two posts are), since it directly relates to your statement about how Wolfbet is "turning the tables in favor of gamblers" that's provably wrong. At best you just don't know what you're talking about; at worst, you're trying to mislead and misdirect less knowledgeable gamblers to play at Wolfbet and use the supposedly better profit making strategies (that are actually worse) so Wolfbet makes more money. I don't think it's off-topic to correct your blatantly wrong statements. Maybe you want to move it to a different thread so that gamblers reading the Wolfbet thread are more likely to be fooled?

[deisik]

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Let's keep it simple. How much are you going to stake so as not to sound like a loudmouth? Say, you stake 1000 dollars, and I run a martingale setup with as much for one month nonstop. You can choose any casino out there where the bets can be independently checked, there is a fast autobet (3-4 rolls a second, the more the better), and it is possible to roll with Dogecoin starting with the least possible amount (which is 0.00000001). If I lose, I lose, if I make around 10% monthly, then your grand becomes my grand. Is it a deal?

Just in case, it is an open offer, so anyone is welcome to join

[DarkStar_]

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Let's keep it simple. How much are going to stake so as not to sound like a loudmouth? Say, you stake 1000 dollars, and I run a martingale setup with as much for one month nonstop. You can choose any casino where the bets can be independently checked, there is a fast autobet (3-4 rolls a second), and it is possible to roll with Dogecoin starting with the least possible amount (which is 0.00000001). If I lose, I lose, if I make around 10% monthly, then your grand becomes my grand. Just in case, it is an open offer, and anyone is welcome to join

So either put up or shut the fuck up

Sure. Let's not use variance to determine who wins or loses though. Remember, we're trying to gamble on facts, and it would suck for either of us to lose simply because of variance, despite being correct. For something that can be mathematically determined, why mess around with luck? And obviously, even you should know that a a bet with no upsides is not a very good bet (even if I think I'm 100% correct, I could be accidentally missing something or misspeak) for me, so why don't you stake some money too  

But first, two points (for full transparency and clarity):
I realized that an earlier statement I made was likely wrong, as it causes the player to increase their wagering and thus decrease EV. Here is the new edit to that post:

A player trying to win 10% profit is very likely going to be wagering more from martingale than they are with a single 1.1x, so their odds of winning are lower. (edit: this might be incorrect and dependent on a few variables. I can say that running 2x martingale with a lower stake will always be worse than just betting 10% of your bankroll on 2x from an EV standpoint).

Secondly, all 4 default strategies on Wolfbet are on the 2x multiplier, and there's no obvious and easy way to change the multiplier. Since your argument is that Wolfbet is helping the player by offering these, presumably whatever statement you make would be at 2x?

With those two points out of the way, what exactly is your claim? For example, you've stated some very wrong claims:

That's why [martingale] can be employed to ruin a casino if most gamblers start using it cautiously and wisely.

I won't hold you to an obviously incorrect statement though - if this was possible with +EV, you'd see whales register dozens if not hundreds of accounts and bankrupt sites. There is no strategy that gives the player an edge against the house. The best you can do is reduce the effective house edge.
How about something less bold, and maybe more easily proven.

Is your claim that by using any of Wolfbet's default strategies, players have a higher chance of making profit versus a simple 2x bet to hit their profit target? So going back to your 10% profit example, and your choice of stake size, is your argument that a player with a large X number of DOGE and as small of a base bet as possible has a higher chance of winning than a single 1.1x all-in bet?

It's worth noting that martingale does provide a better chance of winning in certain circumstances, and is essentially what dooglus' 49.65% chance of doubling against 1% house edge strategy is. You're not arguing for that though; it appears to me that you're arguing for a 2x multiplier and as small of a base bet as possible. Correct?

[deisik]

It's worth noting that martingale does provide a better chance of winning in certain circumstances, and is essentially what dooglus' 49.65% chance of doubling against 1% house edge strategy is. You're not arguing for that though; it appears to me that you're arguing for a 2x multiplier and as small of a base bet as possible. Correct?

My stats and my approach to martingale have been explained in great detail in the thread the link to which I posted earlier and which you discarded as spammy. So, you see, there is essentially nothing we can meaningfully discuss here from then on. But anyway, it's good that you made it abundantly clear, in a sense

[DarkStar_]

It's worth noting that martingale does provide a better chance of winning in certain circumstances, and is essentially what dooglus' 49.65% chance of doubling against 1% house edge strategy is. You're not arguing for that though; it appears to me that you're arguing for a 2x multiplier and as small of a base bet as possible. Correct?

My stats and my approach to martingale have been explained in great detail in the thread the link to which I posted earlier and which you discarded as spammy. So there is essentially nothing we can meaningfully discuss here. But anyway, it's good that you made it abundantly clear

I just wanted to clarify the bet, so that everything is 100% clear from the start  
I did see that you stated this in the thread:

With that said, though, it is an "old-school" martingale which is a sure way to lose all but what about using martingale when you constantly lower your chances to lose at each red streak by extending the number of losing rolls till you go bust? I don't know if it can actually help but it is certainly worth discussing here

Basically, you want to make it so that you go bust after as long of a bet streak as possible. That's why I mentioned this:

Is your claim that by using any of Wolfbet's default strategies, players have a higher chance of making profit versus a simple 2x bet to hit their profit target? So going back to your 10% profit example, and your choice of stake size, is your argument that a player with a large X number of DOGE and as small of a base bet as possible has a higher chance of winning than a single 1.1x all-in bet?

I mentioned that the thread itself if spammy, and not specifically your posts. For someone so eager to follow rules (though I guess only when it benefits you), you should know that mods often lock spam threads in the various discussions sections  

I take it that you're no longer interested in betting or disproving my argument? I guess once we talk about actual facts, you're no longer interested in arguing