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December 17, 2023, 10:18:35 AM
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Very poor batting performance from Pakistani team all out in just 89 runs in second innings of the match. Australia won this test match by 360 runs a huge victory for Australia and lead the series by 1-0. The player of the match is Mitchell Marsh for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance scored 90 runs in 1st inning and also picked 1 important wicket by giving 34 runs and he bat well in second innings of match scored 63 runs unbeaten. Pakistan poor batting no better scored except Babar Azam and Soud Shakeel who scored 24 runs.

Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before. 12 points to Australia as this test is part of ICC World Test Championship.

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December 17, 2023, 11:25:54 AM
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Very poor batting performance from Pakistani team all out in just 89 runs in second innings of the match. Australia won this test match by 360 runs a huge victory for Australia and lead the series by 1-0. The player of the match is Mitchell Marsh for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance scored 90 runs in 1st inning and also picked 1 important wicket by giving 34 runs and he bat well in second innings of match scored 63 runs unbeaten. Pakistan poor batting no better scored except Babar Azam and Soud Shakeel who scored 24 runs.

Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before. 12 points to Australia as this test is part of ICC World Test Championship.
Currently, Pakistani team is going to be crap because now too much politics involved, and they are trying to have control which is creating problems in next games we will have the worst performance from them as well which is trademark of this team and most chances next 2 years are going to be not easy for them in all formats most chances they will be dropped from top four in all formats and stay in sixth and seventh spots which are best for them with this quality and performance.
PCB needs professional approach, but it's not happening due to internal crisis in Pakistan, and they are bringing crap selectors and coaching staff as well which is making good meme for this team and country as well.

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December 17, 2023, 11:41:43 AM
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The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.
This will become so true after the tea break  Grin. Babar Azam ended his game for the day at the tea break. The target is still very big, I don't think Sarfaraz Ahmed will be able to complete this target with the rest of the batsmen. I think the remaining 6 wickets will fall today too

Why was he selected in the first place is questionable? He has lost touch as a wicket keeper and his batting in both the innings was bad. I won't blame him for the loss, but in general the whole Pakistan team I felt has forgotten how to play test cricket. I hope they sit back and take a look as to what went wrong in the first match.
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December 17, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
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The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.
This will become so true after the tea break  Grin. Babar Azam ended his game for the day at the tea break. The target is still very big, I don't think Sarfaraz Ahmed will be able to complete this target with the rest of the batsmen. I think the remaining 6 wickets will fall today too

Why was he selected in the first place is questionable? He has lost touch as a wicket keeper and his batting in both the innings was bad. I won't blame him for the loss, but in general the whole Pakistan team I felt has forgotten how to play test cricket. I hope they sit back and take a look as to what went wrong in the first match.
In current Pakistan team most of the players are having spots just because of their own links they are not having spots on merit which is really dilemma for the team and country as I mentioned above too much politics are involved and this is going to kill the beauty of this team as well after watching today's performance everyone back at home is feeling embarrassing what the hell they are doing here and what is going to happen in coming matches after this performance all is clear.
We can't blame just one person for this all mostly are having their spots just for their political views, and they are doing things which are not acceptable for the sports as well 2023 is the worst year for the Babar Azam and Pakistan with I am looking no changes in next year as well if they are not able to have selection on format and merit.

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December 17, 2023, 12:49:39 PM
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Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before.
Not every team is capable of the Bazball approach in tests. Pakistan is doing the right thing sticking to a defensive approach which worked in the past thanks to legends like Inzamam as you mentioned.

This approach could still work at present as long as they have great test format batsmen which they clearly are severely lacking.

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December 17, 2023, 01:04:14 PM
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Pakistan in hurry to finish the game today, they have lost 5 wickets and we still have 38 more overs to be bowled today. Poor batting performance by Pakistan in second innings. Only two batsmen able to make it to double figures so far. Now the only question left is whether Pakistan able to score 100 runs in second innings or they will be bowled out before that.
Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

Right, in 1 st test series game Pakistan team batsman performed very poor effort and their team was defeated by huge margin of runs and Pakistan team's 2 nd inning was much worst than from 1 st inning because in 1 st inning they scored 271 runs and lost all wickets but in 2 nd inning Pakistan team scored only 89 run only and the they also lost all wickets. Pakistan team lost this game by 350 runs and this was a very high runs target. In 1 st inning of Australia was very brilliant and all batsman showed great effort in this inning. In 2 nd inning of Pakistan, Shafique scored only 2 runs, Imam ul haq scored only 10 runs, Maqsood leader of Pakistan team scored only 2 runs, Ahmed player scored 4 runs, Agha batsman scored only 5 runs, Ajmal and shehzad dismissed 0 runs. These batman showed very poor performance due to their worst batting lineup today Pakistan team lose this 1 st game on pitch.

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December 17, 2023, 01:59:12 PM
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Pakistan in hurry to finish the game today, they have lost 5 wickets and we still have 38 more overs to be bowled today. Poor batting performance by Pakistan in second innings. Only two batsmen able to make it to double figures so far. Now the only question left is whether Pakistan able to score 100 runs in second innings or they will be bowled out before that.
Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

Being bowled out for 89 runs in Pakistan's second innings has certainly left the Pakistani supporters heartbroken. Apart from Pakistan's Imam Ul Haq (10), Babar Azam (14), Saud Shakeel 24, none of the other eight players could touch double digits. We as supporters could never have predicted that Pakistan would be such a bad batting disaster. The failure of Pakistan's top-order batsmen and the bowling failure of Pakistan's fast bowlers are largely responsible for this. However, I hope that they will make good use of the failure of the first test and perform well in the second test.

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December 17, 2023, 06:50:07 PM
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Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

Being bowled out for 89 runs in Pakistan's second innings has certainly left the Pakistani supporters heartbroken. Apart from Pakistan's Imam Ul Haq (10), Babar Azam (14), Saud Shakeel 24, none of the other eight players could touch double digits. We as supporters could never have predicted that Pakistan would be such a bad batting disaster. The failure of Pakistan's top-order batsmen and the bowling failure of Pakistan's fast bowlers are largely responsible for this. However, I hope that they will make good use of the failure of the first test and perform well in the second test.

Pakistan had to chase 450 runs in order to win the match. Nobody thought they would win but nobody also didn’t think they would lose this badly. The opener Abdullah Shafique departed after only scoring 2 runs in the first over and the wickets fell one after the other like Dominos. Although Pakistan was having poor performance from their bowling department, their batting department disappointed us in the end. Only 3 players could score 2 digit runs. With this performance, I don’t see them winning any of the test matches. I think Australia will win all the 3 matches

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December 18, 2023, 02:29:32 AM
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What Ian Chappel said about Pakistan back in 2017, still applies, things haven't changed at all, cricket Aus keeps sending them invites, just to add to their misery, and Pakistan keeps hopium alive they will win some day without improving themselves.

Pakistan sometimes bowls and bats well, so I'd leave it, but poor fielding, and captainship are long standing enemies. Without good fielding, bowlers can't be blamed much, and without proper leadership, team strengths aren't led and directed well.



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December 18, 2023, 08:24:10 AM
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What Ian Chappel said about Pakistan back in 2017, still applies, things haven't changed at all, cricket Aus keeps sending them invites, just to add to their misery, and Pakistan keeps hopium alive they will win some day without improving themselves.

Pakistan sometimes bowls and bats well, so I'd leave it, but poor fielding, and captainship are long standing enemies. Without good fielding, bowlers can't be blamed much, and without proper leadership, team strengths aren't led and directed well.



https://www.crictracker.com/ian-chappell-feels-australia-should-stop-inviting-pakistan-for-test-series-down-under/

I am a fan of Pakistan cricket team and regularly watch their matches on television be it Test ODI or T20.I feel bad about their recent performance of this team.Their continuous bad performance is observed from the Asia Cup.
I was hopeful that the test match between Pakistan and Australia would be a draw even if Pakistan did not win.But that was not the case as they were bowled out for just 89 runs and lost to Australia by a humiliating score of 370 runs.

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December 18, 2023, 09:40:08 AM
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What Ian Chappel said about Pakistan back in 2017, still applies, things haven't changed at all, cricket Aus keeps sending them invites, just to add to their misery, and Pakistan keeps hopium alive they will win some day without improving themselves.

Pakistan sometimes bowls and bats well, so I'd leave it, but poor fielding, and captainship are long standing enemies. Without good fielding, bowlers can't be blamed much, and without proper leadership, team strengths aren't led and directed well.



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I am a fan of Pakistan cricket team and regularly watch their matches on television be it Test ODI or T20.I feel bad about their recent performance of this team.Their continuous bad performance is observed from the Asia Cup.
I was hopeful that the test match between Pakistan and Australia would be a draw even if Pakistan did not win.But that was not the case as they were bowled out for just 89 runs and lost to Australia by a humiliating score of 370 runs.
Ever since Australia scored 487 runs in the first innings, Pakistan's confidence to win has been lost. Still Pakistan managed to score 277 runs and Australia scored 233 in the second innings and Pakistan lost all wickets for just 89 runs in the first innings. Due to this, Pakistan lost by 360 runs. Pakistan's loss was predicted in advance and the ATA predicted that they would lose by at least 200 runs where they lost by 360 runs. It is true that Pakistan played well in ODI and T20 matches but could not overcome their weaknesses when it comes to Test matches
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I am a fan of Pakistan cricket team and regularly watch their matches on television be it Test ODI or T20.I feel bad about their recent performance of this team.Their continuous bad performance is observed from the Asia Cup.
I was hopeful that the test match between Pakistan and Australia would be a draw even if Pakistan did not win.But that was not the case as they were bowled out for just 89 runs and lost to Australia by a humiliating score of 370 runs.

The problem with the Pakistani team is that they are very inconsistent. They were once who dominate the cricket world in both 50 overs and test format, but for the past 10 years their cricket has been deteriorating in both formats. They are still better in T20 cricket, but test cricket is not looking good. This time they had a new captain, new coach and a lot of fresh players. All of them were playing test cricket as if they were new to the test format. The only player that I consider was a good choice by the PCB was Aamer Jamal. I was reading an article about him and found out that he was an Uber driver before he joined this team. This guy if trained properly would become another great bowler for the Pakistan team.
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I am a fan of Pakistan cricket team and regularly watch their matches on television be it Test ODI or T20.I feel bad about their recent performance of this team.Their continuous bad performance is observed from the Asia Cup.
I was hopeful that the test match between Pakistan and Australia would be a draw even if Pakistan did not win.But that was not the case as they were bowled out for just 89 runs and lost to Australia by a humiliating score of 370 runs.

The problem with the Pakistani team is that they are very inconsistent. They were once who dominate the cricket world in both 50 overs and test format, but for the past 10 years their cricket has been deteriorating in both formats. They are still better in T20 cricket, but test cricket is not looking good. This time they had a new captain, new coach and a lot of fresh players. All of them were playing test cricket as if they were new to the test format. The only player that I consider was a good choice by the PCB was Aamer Jamal. I was reading an article about him and found out that he was an Uber driver before he joined this team. This guy if trained properly would become another great bowler for the Pakistan team.


 Pakistan team has been suffering in the bowling department since the injury of Naseem Shah. Haris Rauf lost his form, although Shaheen Afridi got some wickets in the World Cup he still doesn't make much difference with the new ball. Pakistan's fielding has been deteriorating as well. They dropped multiple catches, and let the Australians have multiple runs for free as well.

I thought the only department that they could rely on was the batting department and we all know they failed miserably. Scoring only 370 in the two innings combined. Babar can't score runs these days against the strong teams. Players like Rizwan are not on the team. They changed their captain, coaches and they have become worse than they were before in my opinion.

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The problem with the Pakistani team is that they are very inconsistent. They were once who dominate the cricket world in both 50 overs and test format, but for the past 10 years their cricket has been deteriorating in both formats. They are still better in T20 cricket, but test cricket is not looking good. This time they had a new captain, new coach and a lot of fresh players. All of them were playing test cricket as if they were new to the test format. The only player that I consider was a good choice by the PCB was Aamer Jamal. I was reading an article about him and found out that he was an Uber driver before he joined this team. This guy if trained properly would become another great bowler for the Pakistan team.


 Pakistan team has been suffering in the bowling department since the injury of Naseem Shah. Haris Rauf lost his form, although Shaheen Afridi got some wickets in the World Cup he still doesn't make much difference with the new ball. Pakistan's fielding has been deteriorating as well. They dropped multiple catches, and let the Australians have multiple runs for free as well.

Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.
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Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.

Naseem shah is wickets taking bowlers in Pakistani cricket team. He was one of the key player in the champion trophy. In Pakistan vs India match Rohit Sharma start hitting sixes from the start but Naseem shah was only player Rohit Sharma faced trouble to face it and couldn't judge the ball fairly. Shaheen shah was looking good in the t20 world cup but after marriage his performance down badly. I agree thay Pakistan should need a consistent bowler for all format just like Siraj and Shami. Domestic cricket is now on fire in the Pakistan and I hope very soon quality players will be available for Pakistan international team

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 Pakistan team has been suffering in the bowling department since the injury of Naseem Shah. Haris Rauf lost his form, although Shaheen Afridi got some wickets in the World Cup he still doesn't make much difference with the new ball. Pakistan's fielding has been deteriorating as well. They dropped multiple catches, and let the Australians have multiple runs for free as well.

Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.

There may be debate about who is better among Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi but there is no debate about the fact that Pakistan's bowling needs to be better. Looking at their bowling side, Aamer Jamal is the only bowler who can do some harm to the batsman. Shaheen needs to get his form back, which I believe he will because the form is temporary, and class is permanent. But I agree with you that they need to find different bowlers for different formats for them to perform.

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December 18, 2023, 08:25:37 PM
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Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.

Naseem shah is wickets taking bowlers in Pakistani cricket team. He was one of the key player in the champion trophy. In Pakistan vs India match Rohit Sharma start hitting sixes from the start but Naseem shah was only player Rohit Sharma faced trouble to face it and couldn't judge the ball fairly. Shaheen shah was looking good in the t20 world cup but after marriage his performance down badly. I agree thay Pakistan should need a consistent bowler for all format just like Siraj and Shami. Domestic cricket is now on fire in the Pakistan and I hope very soon quality players will be available for Pakistan international team
Naseem Shah got injured just before the World Cup and his injury was so severe that he was advised to stay out for a long time. He had dreams of playing in the World Cup but due to injuries, that dream did not come true. It's been a while since the ODI World Cup ended but he is still not fully fit to return to the field. The management is not getting the same performance as Naseem shah from the fast bowlers who are playing in place of Naseem shah. Naseem Shah has become a favorite name of Pakistan Cricket Board for Test ODI and T20 format but injury has been a big obstacle for him. There are doubts about how well he can perform when he returns from injury. Pakistan Cricket Board already has a lot of fast bowlers so if his performance is poor then it will be a difficult matter for him to get a place in the team.

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December 18, 2023, 10:06:53 PM
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 Pakistan team has been suffering in the bowling department since the injury of Naseem Shah. Haris Rauf lost his form, although Shaheen Afridi got some wickets in the World Cup he still doesn't make much difference with the new ball. Pakistan's fielding has been deteriorating as well. They dropped multiple catches, and let the Australians have multiple runs for free as well.

Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.

There may be debate about who is better among Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi but there is no debate about the fact that Pakistan's bowling needs to be better. Looking at their bowling side, Aamer Jamal is the only bowler who can do some harm to the batsman. Shaheen needs to get his form back, which I believe he will because the form is temporary, and class is permanent. But I agree with you that they need to find different bowlers for different formats for them to perform.
Few years back Pakistan was doing impressive in this department but now in last few years we have serious domestic issues which are preventing young generation for having things which are needed and many are already shifting outside Pakistan specially in the Middle East which is currently hot spot for them for better future and few of those are already involved in game trying to have shifted in other countries which they can secure their future.
We have too many former cricketers on social media, but sadly they are also doing nothing for the improvement of the quality because here no one going to give them funds like BCCI spending and now having good reward for this as well, so Naseem Shah is better or Shaheen Shah this is just waste of time they need to improve their technique and gaming skills if they want better results.

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December 19, 2023, 02:31:14 AM
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Naseem Shah was better that Afridi as per my understanding. The reason being Shah is a cunning bowler who tries to take wickets and not focus on speed. Afridi is angood bowler but he is concentrated only on speed, have you ever seen him trying something new, as chaning the pace, trying a full toss or even a Yorker.

 After his injury he is not doing.anything out of the box. When it comes to Rauf he is a good bowler with excellent speed, what he lacks is the ability to play long format games. He is a bowler who is better suited for the T20 format. Looking at the present situation of the Pakistani team it would be wise to find bowlers who are good in different formats.

Naseem shah is wickets taking bowlers in Pakistani cricket team. He was one of the key player in the champion trophy. In Pakistan vs India match Rohit Sharma start hitting sixes from the start but Naseem shah was only player Rohit Sharma faced trouble to face it and couldn't judge the ball fairly. Shaheen shah was looking good in the t20 world cup but after marriage his performance down badly. I agree thay Pakistan should need a consistent bowler for all format just like Siraj and Shami. Domestic cricket is now on fire in the Pakistan and I hope very soon quality players will be available for Pakistan international team
Pakistan is not that kind of team that will play good against India due   to politics in cricket. Pakistani Cricket picked the players by taking money . They are greedy people and they didn't took decisions on merit. Pakistani Cricket board can produce quality players but they will not produce good players. Pakistani International cricket team was strong in the time of Shahid Afridi and Misba ul Haq. Pakistani team need a player like Misbah.But that is very difficult for Pakistani International cricket board to pick a batsman like Misbah. Indian International cricket team future is very bright because they are leaders.

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December 19, 2023, 02:39:38 AM
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There may be debate about who is better among Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi but there is no debate about the fact that Pakistan's bowling needs to be better. Looking at their bowling side, Aamer Jamal is the only bowler who can do some harm to the batsman. Shaheen needs to get his form back, which I believe he will because the form is temporary, and class is permanent. But I agree with you that they need to find different bowlers for different formats for them to perform.

It's not like Naseem is better than Shaheen or the other way around, but Pakistan will be in a stronger position if these two open the bowling. Naseem keeps things tight from the other end, when Shaheen goes over-aggressive and leaks runs. Their weakness is in the 3rd pace bowler. For quite some time, Haris Rauf is performing poorly. Now they have Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal coming up and if either one of them can cement their position in the national team, then it will be great news for the Pakistani selectors.

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