ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Little Mouse]

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

But people these days get much entertainments in T-20, at the end of the day, entertainment is the purpose of every sports. You can't watch test, you can only get updated with it, it doesn't serve the purpose of entertainment. ODI can only be watched if you are on holiday or it is after your works, still not possible to watch the full match. In the end, t20 is the only game which everyone can watch the full match.

[BitSat19]

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

But people these days get much entertainments in T-20, at the end of the day, entertainment is the purpose of every sports. You can't watch test, you can only get updated with it, it doesn't serve the purpose of entertainment. ODI can only be watched if you are on holiday or it is after your works, still not possible to watch the full match. In the end, t20 is the only game which everyone can watch the full match.

We have to face some fact that now Test is no longer good entertainment for most peoples as many economical and social problems most of peoples cannot stay in stadium for many days to watch this so they prefer T20 as its need very less time which we can spend easily and can enjoy and ICC and no other Board can do any alternative for this so T20 Brand is going to be more popular in near future.

[JSRAW]

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If T20 is not real cricket (which is not of-course) then how are we going to label T-10 and T-6 if they ever play it internationally. May be we will not see cricket then, we will see baseball or this kind (I don't know how they play baseball but seen them to hit the ball hard and run LOL, the ball don't even need to pitch :-P)

Real Cricket or not this comparison only comes at play when spectators/players think T-20 is a real form of cricket and judge any player skills only basis of shorter format, which is very wrong. For example: Make a team of all Big T-20 specialist players who think they are great players and put them against any County or Ranji team. I can bet you local teams can beat the shit out of them in Real Cricket any day of the week.

For international adoption or eyeballs, ICC is trying to get cricket into the Olympics. That's why ICC granted T-20I status to all 104 members. For only this reason, T-20 is very important to world cricket. But I think that even T-20 Format is long for Olympics (its another debate). May be T-10 looks okay.

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

That's why World Test Championship is introduced.

You are right we need to promote Test and ODI but greediness never want to promote these formats because they have more revenue in T20 and our jokers can perform better in this format as they have better income in very less time like soccer even now ICC is also not able to do any work in this issue as powerful boards want more revenue and its belong to T20.

Its more of adopt or die situation for all Cricketing boards.

I will talk about BCCI perpective ;

1. India is very big country and has 35+ domestic teams + Under 23 +under 19 +Under 16 .
2. More than 10k professional cricketers (including retired) BCCI has to take care of their salary.
3. Pension plan for retired cricketers. here they are waiting for Pension Hike
4. No government help in regards of infrastructure. ( In England and Australia local gov takes care of it according to my knowledge, plz correct me if i am wrong)
5. BCCI organise 800+ matches in one year ( Test series + ODI series + T-20 series )

That's why BCCI needs regular flow of money. as you already know how ICC reduced the BCCI's share (around 200 million) recently.
 
Now about Promoting Test cricket Again India's perspective; Indian cricketers gives Test cricket highest priority. in last 2 years Virat, Bumrah, Shami skipped couple of ODI and T-20 series only because of Test Match. so its depends on players too.

[FIFA worldcup]

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

But people these days get much entertainments in T-20, at the end of the day, entertainment is the purpose of every sports. You can't watch test, you can only get updated with it, it doesn't serve the purpose of entertainment. ODI can only be watched if you are on holiday or it is after your works, still not possible to watch the full match. In the end, t20 is the only game which everyone can watch the full match.

We have to face some fact that now Test is no longer good entertainment for most peoples as many economical and social problems most of peoples cannot stay in stadium for many days to watch this so they prefer T20 as its need very less time which we can spend easily and can enjoy and ICC and no other Board can do any alternative for this so T20 Brand is going to be more popular in near future.

Basically Test cricket is true form of cricket which shows a team skill, but the current time is of making money in quick time and T20 is best form of cricket to make lot of money for the boards as well as for the players. Even from the viewers point of view, they do not have the time to spend the whole day watching the test or one day match.

[Haunebu]

I don't really get this entire T-20 debate. Absolutely silly in my opinion. The T-20 format helped Cricket deliver way more entertainment value than before in my opinion and the majority would most likely agree.

Honestly, I enjoyed the IPL more than the World Cup this year. People should be happy with the T-20 format instead of bickering about it. However, test match and ODI formats are equally important even if they deliver less entertainment value.

[AB de Royse777]

Gays! Guys! Are you watching the third ODI between Sri Lanka va Bangladesh? Sri Lanka had a very slow start compering with the last two ODIs. May be Bangladesh have a chance to win this last ODI and show that they are not gone.

Without Shakib and with the low performance from Tamim and Mahmudullah, Bangladesh seems a broken team.

By the way, do we have a chance to see Tamim is playing in lower order today?

[JSRAW]

Gays! Guys!

FTFY 

I didn't even know that match was in progress . Sri Lanka already won the series so not much buzz about this match. Not sure about the reason but Bangladesh is looking tired in this series.

[Haunebu]

Gays! Guys!

FTFY 

Lmao. Careful Royse. Can't stop laughing. Anyway, this match could go to Bangladesh if they keep chipping away at their wickets in a steady manner. Karunaratne and Perera looked like they would build a big partnership, but got out.

I still think this is Sri Lanka's game though as long as they post something close to 280 which could be competitive. Angelo could be the batsman to watch now.

[AB de Royse777]

Gays! Guys!

FTFY 

Lmao. Careful Royse.

LOL I did not mean it :-P
Updated. Shame me :-D

I just learnt that in this ground Bangladesh has no win yet and not sure if they can break this trend even though they are in the better position today. May be they can hope for a fight.

[Haunebu]

I just learnt that in this ground Bangladesh has no win yet and not sure if they can break this trend even though they are in the better position today. May be they can hope for a fight.

As expected, Angelo continues performing well just like in recent matches and his 87 from 90 balls propelled Sri Lanka close to 300 which is a competitive target.

What stunned me is how poorly Bangladesh is performing at the moment. Sarkar is the only one hanging on. Sri Lanka are decimating Bangladesh currently.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

Definitely not!!!

Test cricket wastes 5 full days and I have seen its impact where I live. Whenever India plays a test match, half of the working age males skip their work, and get themselves glued in front of the TV screen. In rural areas, the entire economic activity gets affected. If this is the case in Northeast India, I can imagine how much worse will be the situation in rest of India. T20 is somewhat better, since it gets over in 3 hours.

[Haunebu]

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

[Little Mouse]

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

[Haunebu]

I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

In my opinion, Rahim, Sarkar, Shakib, Liton, Rahman, Saifuddin and Mahmudullah are the consistent players and the rest need to be replaced asap with new talented players which could help the team in a big way.

Shakib needs to be made the captain. I think Rahim and Liton could make a good opening pair.

[sujonali1819]

I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

In my opinion, Rahim, Sarkar, Shakib, Liton, Rahman, Saifuddin and Mahmudullah are the consistent players and the rest need to be replaced asap with new talented players which could help the team in a big way.

Shakib needs to be made the captain. I think Rahim and Liton could make a good opening pair.

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents? But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

[Avirunes]

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents?

Well generally inconsistent players are replaced. At some point he will be if he continues to perform like this.

But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

Tamim is a good player without a doubt. He had scored many runs for his country in past. But just because of his earlier performance doesn't gives him a life-long ticket into the team. Rohit at one point was also performing very bad and he was dropped out from the team at one point but he proved back with his performances in domestic cricket matches and he was handed over chance again into the team after. It doesn't means if one is dropped out, he doesn't have a chance to get back. I think management has put faith in him for long now and its time to do something about it.

[Haunebu]

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents? But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

Exactly. I am not saying that they should never select him again. I am just stating that other players need to be given a chance currently until he is back in form since he is playing really horribly these days.

Also, Pffrt also pointed out that he has heavy references which is why he continues to play for the team currently. This would be the best decision regarding the Bangladesh lineup going forward in my opinion.

[AB de Royse777]

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

The Bangladesh team in WC and this Bangladesh team is totally different because of Shakib's absence. On top of it Tamim is having his worst time in the career, Mahmudullah Riyad is struggling for runs even Mushfiqur Rahim did not perform yesterday.

I think Bangladesh needs to learn how to win matches without Shakib. It's like the Indian team once it used to be. Sachin, Ganguly did not perform, India could not perform.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

I do not know what changes will be effective but they really need to do something about Tamim. Also they need to find a bowling unit that take wickets. In the entire WC we have seen they were heavily dependent on their batting unit.

[Haunebu]

The Bangladesh team in WC and this Bangladesh team is totally different because of Shakib's absence. On top of it Tamim is having his worst time in the career, Mahmudullah Riyad is struggling for runs even Mushfiqur Rahim did not perform yesterday.

I think Bangladesh needs to learn how to win matches without Shakib. It's like the Indian team once it used to be. Sachin, Ganguly did not perform, India could not perform.

I remember that time very nicely. The Indians were playing poor Cricket and were in a dismal state whenever Sachin and Sehwag had bad starts. MSD changed the game by making some drastic changes here which was initially met with heavy criticism from the Indians, but this move helped them lift the World Cup after a long gap. If Bangladesh does the same, they might be an even better team in the future.

[Pffrt]

I do not know what changes will be effective but they really need to do something about Tamim. Also they need to find a bowling unit that take wickets. In the entire WC we have seen they were heavily dependent on their batting unit.

Anamul was given chance in the last match after a long time, he didn't perform well but I wish BCB decides to try him at least for 5/6 matches before deciding about replacement. He is a good opener for one day.
We don't have much bowling option these days. Mostafiz has become poor after the surgery. Other bowlers like Rubel, Shafiul can never be the bowler of first spell, to be honest. We don't have many option either. It would be better to keep focus on BPL to get some young bowlers at the team. Abu Haidar was doing fine but after poor bowling in 3/4 matches, he was dropped.
This is a big problem of BCB, never gives enough time, not applicable for Tamim though