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December 21, 2019, 06:26:15 PM
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If we are considering last 2 decades then for me best captain is Ganguly. But If we are going way back to 60s and 80s then Mansoor Ali khan and Kapil dev are worthy candidates and important figures.
Ganguly is indeed one of the best captains in Indian history, but MSD did what mattered the most when compared to other captains(Winning multiple world titles, Establishing the future of Indian cricket(Kohli etc) etc).

His life story is always very inspirational and I am not a big fan of test Cricket to be honest since I watch T-20 and ODI matches more often which is why he is the best captain among all the Indian Cricket captains so far. Just my opinion!

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December 22, 2019, 04:28:52 AM
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If we are considering last 2 decades then for me best captain is Ganguly. But If we are going way back to 60s and 80s then Mansoor Ali khan and Kapil dev are worthy candidates and important figures.
Ganguly is indeed one of the best captains in Indian history, but MSD did what mattered the most when compared to other captains(Winning multiple world titles, Establishing the future of Indian cricket(Kohli etc) etc).

His life story is always very inspirational and I am not a big fan of test Cricket to be honest since I watch T-20 and ODI matches more often which is why he is the best captain among all the Indian Cricket captains so far. Just my opinion!

Why do we need to compare these captains ?
Kapil, Ganguly, dravid, dhoni and now Kholi all of them were great captains and legends for their era and produce brilliant performances as an individual as well as the captain of their team.
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December 22, 2019, 05:19:10 AM
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Today's match will surely be intresting to watch. Both the teams will try to win this series, pressure match for both the captain's. Anything can happen. India will be again dependent on their batsmen and West Indies on their bowlers. Toss will play an important part. Waiting for the match to start.

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December 22, 2019, 05:28:45 AM
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Why do we need to compare these captains ?
Kapil, Ganguly, dravid, dhoni and now Kholi all of them were great captains and legends for their era and produce brilliant performances as an individual as well as the captain of their team.

Kapil Dev was the first Indian captain who managed to win an ICC tournament. His achievement was very remarkable, because back then West Indies was being regarded as invincible and the Indian team was lagging behind in terms of training, equipment and finances. And the 1983 CWC took place in England, and the conditions were not suitable for the vast majority of the Indian players. Despite all this, India managed to win the tournament, by defeating the West Indies in the final.

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December 22, 2019, 07:08:48 AM
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Today's match will surely be intresting to watch. Both the teams will try to win this series, pressure match for both the captain's. Anything can happen. India will be again dependent on their batsmen and West Indies on their bowlers. Toss will play an important part. Waiting for the match to start.

Today’s match is held in Cuttack and the decider as well . I think captain winning the toss would field first and would like to chase the score as happening in this series . But this as being final batting second might just add little pressure on chasing any score 300+

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December 22, 2019, 07:25:57 AM
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Why do we need to compare these captains ?
Kapil, Ganguly, dravid, dhoni and now Kholi all of them were great captains and legends for their era and produce brilliant performances as an individual as well as the captain of their team.
Very true, but everyone has a favorite which is why we were discussing our favorites in this case.

Today’s match is held in Cuttack and the decider as well . I think captain winning the toss would field first and would like to chase the score as happening in this series . But this as being final batting second might just add little pressure on chasing any score 300+
I would go all in on India after their amazing performance in the last match. The only thing that India needs to get right is to improve in the fielding department since they seem to be dropping catches way too often lately. If they rectify this, India will most likely decimate West Indies.

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December 22, 2019, 08:03:05 AM
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Very true, but everyone has a favorite which is why we were discussing our favorites in this case.

Yup, and differences of opinions are always welcome and good.




Okay fellas series decider is on... India won the toss and opt to bowl, again its batting pitch and hope Windies get some big run on the board and then India doing what they are known for "Chase"
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December 22, 2019, 09:17:51 AM
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Okay fellas series decider is on... India won the toss and opt to bowl, again its batting pitch and hope Windies get some big run on the board and then India doing what they are known for "Chase"
West Indies started really slow and now they lost Lewis looking for an extravagant shot, Jadeja already dropped a tough chance earlier and for India Navdeep Saini made his debut and he is bowling at a lively pace and Shai Hope continues his form throughout the series became the fastest West Indian player to cross 3000 runs, even though his strike rate is low his average is above 50.

Pant just now missed a regulation catch and his terrible performance behind the stumps continues.
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December 22, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
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Okay fellas series decider is on... India won the toss and opt to bowl, again its batting pitch and hope Windies get some big run on the board and then India doing what they are known for "Chase"
West Indies started really slow and now they lost Lewis looking for an extravagant shot, Jadeja already dropped a tough chance earlier and for India Navdeep Saini made his debut and he is bowling at a lively pace and Shai Hope continues his form throughout the series became the fastest West Indian player to cross 3000 runs, even though his strike rate is low his average is above 50.

Pant just now missed a regulation catch and his terrible performance behind the stumps continues.


Is Cuttack a batting paradise or bowling? West Indies is struggling to reach a decent score of 250. I am not sure now are Indian bowlers balling so good? It does not seems like that.

What has happened to this team?

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December 22, 2019, 11:27:47 AM
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Is Cuttack a batting paradise or bowling? West Indies is struggling to reach a decent score of 250. I am not sure now are Indian bowlers balling so good? It does not seems like that.
What has happened to this team?
As long as Kieron Pollard and Nicholas Pooran are in the crease they can look for a total of above 270 runs as they can clear the boundary with ease, the openers started really slow and the slow rate continued when they sent Chase at number 3 which was a miscalculation from the West Indies as they needed someone to take on the attack and Shimron Hetmyer was the right player but for some reason they sent in Chase and the slow rate continued until he got out and India might win the match easily with the way the match is going.
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December 22, 2019, 11:41:37 AM
Last edit: December 22, 2019, 11:56:35 AM by akhjob
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Venue Scoring Pattern
Avg 1st inn score: 245
Avg 2nd inn score: 226
Highest Total: 381/6 (50 Ov) by IND vs ENG
Lowest Total: 169/10 (48.2 Ov) by WI vs IND
Highest Chased: 273/4 (43.4 Ov) by IND vs ENG
Lowest Defended: 189/10 (48.2 Ov) by IND vs WI

WI are currently batting well at 262/4 in 47 overs and eyeing 300. Given that the highest successful chase is 273 runs but in 43 overs, anybody looking to bet on WI?



Is Cuttack a batting paradise or bowling? West Indies is struggling to reach a decent score of 250. I am not sure now are Indian bowlers balling so good? It does not seems like that.

What has happened to this team?

Alteady crossed 250, now eyeing 300

Edit: 279/5 Pooram gone
Edit 2: Target for India : 316
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December 22, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
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Is Cuttack a batting paradise or bowling? West Indies is struggling to reach a decent score of 250. I am not sure now are Indian bowlers balling so good? It does not seems like that.
What has happened to this team?
As long as Kieron Pollard and Nicholas Pooran are in the crease they can look for a total of above 270 runs as they can clear the boundary with ease, the openers started really slow and the slow rate continued when they sent Chase at number 3 which was a miscalculation from the West Indies as they needed someone to take on the attack and Shimron Hetmyer was the right player but for some reason they sent in Chase and the slow rate continued until he got out and India might win the match easily with the way the match is going.

You thought and they got the wicket of Nicholas Pooran breaking the partnership. Now, it  depends on Pollard to take the score above 320 which is a competitive score.

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December 22, 2019, 11:54:06 AM
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Is Cuttack a batting paradise or bowling? West Indies is struggling to reach a decent score of 250. I am not sure now are Indian bowlers balling so good? It does not seems like that.
What has happened to this team?
As long as Kieron Pollard and Nicholas Pooran are in the crease they can look for a total of above 270 runs as they can clear the boundary with ease, the openers started really slow and the slow rate continued when they sent Chase at number 3 which was a miscalculation from the West Indies as they needed someone to take on the attack and Shimron Hetmyer was the right player but for some reason they sent in Chase and the slow rate continued until he got out and India might win the match easily with the way the match is going.

You thought and they got the wicket of Nicholas Pooran breaking the partnership. Now, it  depends on Pollard to take the score above 320 which is a competitive score.

Kieron Pollard really played well and with that West Indies made a competitive match winning score. if only WI can take early wickets, this match will be out of Indian hands. Still the odds are good for WI, if anyone wants to take the risk.
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December 22, 2019, 12:02:12 PM
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Is anybody willing to risk betting on WI? Another good stat update

Quote from: cricbuzz
Stat: Highest target chased down in ODIs in Cuttack: 271 by Ind vs Eng, 2008.
Three 300+ scores posted by side batting first - the team went on to win those games by 32, 169 and 15 runs respectively.

This is going to be a close game for sure, and I secretly wish India to lose this match  Wink
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December 22, 2019, 12:12:29 PM
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Is anybody willing to risk betting on WI? Another good stat update

Quote from: cricbuzz
Stat: Highest target chased down in ODIs in Cuttack: 271 by Ind vs Eng, 2008.
Three 300+ scores posted by side batting first - the team went on to win those games by 32, 169 and 15 runs respectively.

This is going to be a close game for sure, and I secretly wish India to lose this match  Wink

WI made 315/5 in their 50 overs. Pollard was not out for 74 runs in the end. India would have to start well and among the top 3 batsman one has to make century in order to make India win the match and the series too. It is going to a good match.



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December 22, 2019, 12:16:02 PM
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Is anybody willing to risk betting on WI? Another good stat update

Quote from: cricbuzz
Stat: Highest target chased down in ODIs in Cuttack: 271 by Ind vs Eng, 2008.
Three 300+ scores posted by side batting first - the team went on to win those games by 32, 169 and 15 runs respectively.

This is going to be a close game for sure, and I secretly wish India to lose this match  Wink

Why would you want India to lose, did you made the bet on West Indies Win ?  Or you belong to the West Indies. First 10 overs of the Indian innings will decide who is gonna win this one. I hope to see the last ball thriller match.  Smiley
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December 22, 2019, 01:03:30 PM
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Now the match depends on Indian openers. 315 is a good target but, is still possible to reach if the openers and the middle order do  there job properly. Past form of Rohit and Rahul should play a crucial role in today's match.

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December 22, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
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Now the match depends on Indian openers. 315 is a good target but, is still possible to reach if the openers and the middle order do  there job properly. Past form of Rohit and Rahul should play a crucial role in today's match.

Yes and RoHIT and Rahul are doing quite well, as far as the target is concerned the top order of Indian team can easily achieve it. I'm just hoping that RoHIT should be scoring another 200 he has missed his double century on the last game.
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Now the match depends on Indian openers. 315 is a good target but, is still possible to reach if the openers and the middle order do  there job properly. Past form of Rohit and Rahul should play a crucial role in today's match.
India started really well and they are chasing well as expected and they do not need to take much risk and still they are scoring at well over 6 runs per over and as long as the Rohit and Rahul is in the crease they could accelerate the innings and since there is dew it will be difficult for the West Indies bowlers and the fielders and picking wickets to put pressure on the Indian batsman is the only solution and it looks like India will run away with the game and the series easily.
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December 22, 2019, 01:29:31 PM
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No clue about what is going on in crickting world as too busy with some real world projects. May I have now time again to get busy here. Is India leading in the series. Last time I checked was WI head by 1 - 0 if I am not wrong.

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