ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

Some would say its excellent recipe for good cricket and critics/ICC might scream that BIG 3 sucks.(or PIG 3  ).
Super series includes total 4 teams (Ind +Eng + Aus) and one more team, no one knows...

Glad to see that Sourav Ganguly is trying to make things interesting for the fans and to develop cricket and even i heard he is planning for a mini IPL, not sure about the details of that but i am sure he will things that will help youngsters and to develop their cricket and he will be a major part in the next wave of changes like he did in the past as a captain.

Yeah, Without any doubt. I was expecting few good things from Ganguly, countering ICC every year WC move was one of them. So far very happy with his work, we have to wait how this work out in the end. About Mini IPL, i guess i heard about this thingy couple of years back too.

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About Mini IPL, i guess i heard about this thingy couple of years back too.

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket, it would be fun if they can create the same level of tournament for Women as there are some talented women's cricketers who can hit the ball a long way but the level of play will not be that great but it has a level on its own and if the India board is able to create one then it could be a game changer for women's cricket.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

[Indymoney]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

This is good but last time its fail to attract too many peoples to they stop this now if they are going with changes or what will be cretaria we have to wait for this all but still happy Ganguly is now going to do some more works for this game which give him too much respect and honor.

[pakhitheboss]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

I do no think it is a good idea. All ready players are very busy nowdays, you cannot ask more from them. Cricket has become business to mint money. Let them rest for few months before these guys start again.

How will you enjoy a game or a tournament with tired players?

[Sithara007]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

Champions League T20 is a failed idea. During the previous editions, the viewer interest was extremely low. As you have pointed out, one of the main reasons is that there are players who represent 3-4 franchises in any given year and for them it is difficult to chose a side. Another factor is that with IPL occurring every year, adding another tournament involving the IPL teams may add to the viewer fatigue. During the last Champions League T20, the viewership figures were much lower than what they had during the IPL.

[mersal]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

Champions League T20 is a failed idea. During the previous editions, the viewer interest was extremely low. As you have pointed out, one of the main reasons is that there are players who represent 3-4 franchises in any given year and for them it is difficult to chose a side. Another factor is that with IPL occurring every year, adding another tournament involving the IPL teams may add to the viewer fatigue. During the last Champions League T20, the viewership figures were much lower than what they had during the IPL.

Mostly people lose interest when they see their favourite team's player is playing for another team on the same league which happen at champions league due to the international franchise tournament.And also another reason why IPL got so much support in India is due to the month which is happening at that time summer holidays in India so everyone is free on their home and has enough time to enjoy all the IPL matches.

[miningguru]

Some would say its excellent recipe for good cricket and critics/ICC might scream that BIG 3 sucks.(or PIG 3  ).
Super series includes total 4 teams (Ind +Eng + Aus) and one more team, no one knows...

Glad to see that Sourav Ganguly is trying to make things interesting for the fans and to develop cricket and even i heard he is planning for a mini IPL, not sure about the details of that but i am sure he will things that will help youngsters and to develop their cricket and he will be a major part in the next wave of changes like he did in the past as a captain.

Yeah, Without any doubt. I was expecting few good things from Ganguly, countering ICC every year WC move was one of them. So far very happy with his work, we have to wait how this work out in the end. About Mini IPL, i guess i heard about this thingy couple of years back too.

Wonderful to know that because this mini IPL will help the BCCI to find out a more talented player. As of now, he is doing his job by shuffling the players in matches. Definitely Ganguly's aim is to bring younger talented cricketers and it will surely help the nations.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I am not sure whether the BCCI will succeed in their efforts for a new tournament. Already they are in talks with the other big 3 nations for a quadrangular tournament in 2021. Ganguly want to go back to the Big 3 era, when the three boards pocketed 90% of the ICC revenue. However, yesterday there was a statement from the Cricket Australia head, stating that he would put the future of the sport ahead of any shot-time monetary reward.

[ene1980]

Wonderful to know that because this mini IPL will help the BCCI to find out a more talented player. As of now, he is doing his job by shuffling the players in matches. Definitely Ganguly's aim is to bring younger talented cricketers and it will surely help the nations.

The BCCI has the money to conduct a tournament like that and make it a successful one and if they are creating a mini IPL and if there is a champions league for the franchise leagues then it will create interest in the cricket followers as the matches will be competitive and considering how the Champions league was not able to attract the visitors they were expecting and i am not sure whether they folded because of the low viewership and if the BCCI is able to conduct that then it might get the attention they are looking.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Wonderful to know that because this mini IPL will help the BCCI to find out a more talented player. As of now, he is doing his job by shuffling the players in matches. Definitely Ganguly's aim is to bring younger talented cricketers and it will surely help the nations.

The BCCI has the money to conduct a tournament like that and make it a successful one and if they are creating a mini IPL and if there is a champions league for the franchise leagues then it will create interest in the cricket followers as the matches will be competitive and considering how the Champions league was not able to attract the visitors they were expecting and i am not sure whether they folded because of the low viewership and if the BCCI is able to conduct that then it might get the attention they are looking.

The so called champions league (not sure about the name) is going to be counter productive. There is a lot of franchise T20 cricket going on, and the viewer interest is declining due to the overkill. The average attendance per match is going down, even for established leagues such as the Big Bash League of Australia. And within a few months, the stats from IPL 2020 will confirm this.

[JSRAW]

Not sure why everyone getting exciting about this Mini IPL, BCCI is not group of fools who likes to kick on dead horse when money is involved. Right now BCCI working on another project called " Super Series" (not Bilateral, not Trilateral but Quadrilateral series)

I shared the details HERE

[Vishnu.Reang]

Not sure why everyone getting exciting about this Mini IPL, BCCI is not group of fools who likes to kick on dead horse when money is involved. Right now BCCI working on another project called " Super Series" (not Bilateral, not Trilateral but Quadrilateral series)

I shared the details HERE

The other boards are not very happy with this idea. There is an article in espncricnfo on this subject:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28364212/bcci-icc-disagreement-multi-team-tournaments-heart-super-series-proposal

The stance of ECB is not clear at this point of time, but from what I have heard, Cricket Australia is unlikely to offer much support for the BCCI. All the other cricket boards are against this idea, as it is believed that N Srinivasan is the mastermind behind this move. A full fledged conflict between the BCCI and the ICC may unravel at some point in 2020.

[Haunebu]

Not sure why everyone getting exciting about this Mini IPL, BCCI is not group of fools who likes to kick on dead horse when money is involved.

Mini IPL? Interesting. It seems like Ganguly is trying different things which is a good move on his part, but the only Cricket tournament that I follow these days from beginning to end is IPL these days.

The stance of ECB is not clear at this point of time, but from what I have heard, Cricket Australia is unlikely to offer much support for the BCCI. All the other cricket boards are against this idea, as it is believed that N Srinivasan is the mastermind behind this move. A full fledged conflict between the BCCI and the ICC may unravel at some point in 2020.

Everyone knows how corrupt BCCI is which is why I am not surprised to hear this. However, I don't think there will be any sort of conflict between BCCI and ICC since ICC stands to lose more in such a scenario.

[JSRAW]

Not sure why everyone getting exciting about this Mini IPL, BCCI is not group of fools who likes to kick on dead horse when money is involved.

Mini IPL? Interesting. It seems like Ganguly is trying different things which is a good move on his part, but the only Cricket tournament that I follow these days from beginning to end is IPL these days.

Not mini IPL but Super Series.

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The other boards are not very happy with this idea. There is an article in espncricnfo on this subject:

Every board is hypocrite and corrupt IMO, as long as they are included they are okay and the moment they feel left out then BCCI is ruining the Cricket. no-one stopping other board to start another super series which consists 4 teams.

This controversy started by ICC when they proposed one ICC tournament every year which bcci rejected and now BCCI countering it, so nothing wrong with that. let's see if this new series gets a green signal or not.

[Sithara007]

Every board is hypocrite and corrupt IMO, as long as they are included they are okay and the moment they feel left out then BCCI is ruining the Cricket. no-one stopping other board to start another super series which consists 4 teams.

This controversy started by ICC when they proposed one ICC tournament every year which bcci rejected and now BCCI countering it, so nothing wrong with that. let's see if this new series gets a green signal or not.

ICC was proposing a tournament for the next cycle (2024-2032). There is yet no final decision on the same, since the next cycle is more than 5 years away. Also, this new tournament was supposed to happen once every 4 years.

On the other hand, the tournament that BCCI had proposed is supposed to start from 2021 (i.e within the current 2015-2023 cycle). It will happen on an annual basis. Already the IPL has removed two months from the cricketing calendar, and now the BCCI wants to reduce the available time by another month or so. I am a resident of India, but I have never supported the greed from BCCI. They prevented cricket from included in the Olympics and now they are harming the popularity of cricket in other countries. And even worse, it is that corrupt crook N Srinivasan who is controlling the BCCI once more.

[onrise]

What is this mini IPL, is this a tournament for U21 or much younger players or is it about women's cricket

They are planning to bring back the Champions League T20 where the best teams from all the franchise cricket will face to find out the best champion and right now we have many franchise T20 tournament around the world and it would be fun to see the best teams battling out but the main problem will be some of these players are playing in multiple franchise and how they will sort that out will be the biggest question.

We would be bombarded with too much of cricket it seems now as there is already so many T20 leagues happening and another one would just kill the fun itself. Also, I think any franchisee which pays more the player will play from that team or franchisee when he is associated with multiple franchises.

[JSRAW]

Every board is hypocrite and corrupt IMO, as long as they are included they are okay and the moment they feel left out then BCCI is ruining the Cricket. no-one stopping other board to start another super series which consists 4 teams.

This controversy started by ICC when they proposed one ICC tournament every year which bcci rejected and now BCCI countering it, so nothing wrong with that. let's see if this new series gets a green signal or not.

ICC was proposing a tournament for the next cycle (2024-2032). There is yet no final decision on the same, since the next cycle is more than 5 years away. Also, this new tournament was supposed to happen once every 4 years.

Wrong...

ICC was proposing the T-20 world cup every year and ODI World cup every 3 year. call it dick move or smart move but its not rocket science that ICC wanted to grab the global media rights (2023-2028) and guess who was the bigger loser?

https://www.mykhel.com/cricket/icc-bcci-t20-world-cup-ftp-50-over-world-cup-129272.html
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/bcci-opposes-icc-new-ftp-global-media-rights-ganguly-jay-shah-job-1609283-2019-10-14

And Cherry on the cake - ICC earns from India but don't want to pay taxes here and last time they threaten BCCI that they should pay the taxes instead of ICC, otherwise lose the 2023 World cup hosting rights. I would say #u#k ICC if that's the case.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/icc-bcci-23-million-usd-lose-2023-world-cup-2021-champions-trophy-1415372-2018-12-22

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On the other hand, the tournament that BCCI had proposed is supposed to start from 2021 (i.e within the current 2015-2023 cycle). It will happen on an annual basis. Already the IPL has removed two months from the cricketing calendar, and now the BCCI wants to reduce the available time by another month or so.

What do you mean by " Reducing  available time by another month" its not local or IPL type tournament for starters. Proposal includes 4 teams (Ind+Aus+Eng+one more) every country will get chance to host the series, which means every participants is share holder, not only BCCI (minus ICC).

It can be argue that "super series" should take place every year or alternate year? but calling greedy is not good argument IMO. Every country has right to manage their bilateral or triangular series affairs, just like Australia operates CB series , Bangladesh Tri series or new tri series from Ireland.

What if any cricket board propose same proposal? saying NZ,SA,WI and BAN (or whatever team) should play one joint series every year or after every 2 years. then what would cricket community say? Greedy or what?
 

I am a resident of India, but I have never supported the greed from BCCI. They prevented cricket from included in the Olympics and now they are harming the popularity of cricket in other countries. And even worse, it is that corrupt crook N Srinivasan who is controlling the BCCI once more.

Resident or no resident, it doesn't matter if one "calls a spade a spade" without any hypocrisy. no one in their right mind can say BCCI is not corrupt but it doesn't mean they are alone in this game of corruption. the only difference is BCCI got bigger share and lot to lose.
I hope you are aware of why BCCI is opposing the Olympics? and i really hope all cricketing nation outvote BCCI in this matter if it goes to voting, seems simple calculation to me, 11 vs 1.

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Not sure why everyone getting exciting about this Mini IPL, BCCI is not group of fools who likes to kick on dead horse when money is involved. Right now BCCI working on another project called " Super Series" (not Bilateral, not Trilateral but Quadrilateral series)

The BCCI sure does know the business side of things and so is the reason they are the most power board in the world and they are able to negotiate huge telecast rights from media companies while the rest of the boards are struggling to find that much money and if they can come if with interesting concepts that will help the rest of the cricket boards then it will be great for them and they will accept these concepts of Quadrilateral series as every team involve will make money.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

I do no think it is a good idea. All ready players are very busy nowdays, you cannot ask more from them. Cricket has become business to mint money. Let them rest for few months before these guys start again.

How will you enjoy a game or a tournament with tired players?

If you can time the tournaments perfectly then it will be entertaining, the leagues will conduct their matches during the first part of the year and the Champions league will be conducted at the later part of the year which will enforce interest in the view public to know which team is the best among all the franchise teams and it might have a huge response, timing is everything as you cannot force these tournaments one after other, if the cricket boards are able to time these perfectly then they will succeed.