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September 26, 2023, 04:35:24 AM
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Australia continuesly losing all their recent matches , first to SA and now India but their overalls record in the previous world cup is better. India is no doubt looking very strong team, Win Asia cup and now two consecutive won against Australia and maybe whitewash tomorrow.

 I think Pakistan will be fourth team to qualify for semi final but fitness is biggest problem in Pakistani players. In previous t20, Shaheen shah afridi injury in his last over became the reason for Pakistan to rule out from the world cup and also in this Asia cup Two best bowlers injured against SA match. Warmup matches will gives some results how teams are playing in India pitch condition.

India is definitely a strong team,but the Australian team is not weak either. Australia has great batsmen and bowlers.They have the ability to come back in the series.We cannot prove Australia a weak team by failing one or two series.Bangladesh defeated India in a match in Asia Cup.From this you can guess that the team which has a good day wins.

In my opinion, England, South Africa and New Zealand also have the ability to qualify for the semi-finals of the World Cup.The most important thing is that no team should depend on one or two players.Rather, the overall performance of a team plays an important role in winning the match.To overcome injury problems, it is very important to develop substitute players or add them to the team.

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September 26, 2023, 05:11:38 AM
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Kiwis might surprise as they are dark horses and always punch above their weight.

Proteas batting order is looking threatening to me this time and if their bowling clicks at the right time then they could wonder as well, although one of their primer bowler is ruled out due to injury.

You never know what Pakistan can do, one day they will look Prime Pakistani team and they also have a strange capability of becoming a club level cricket team so highly unpredictable.

I am not sure whether Kane Williamson has fully recovered from injury. He has been included in their squad, but has been out of action for quite some time. And their bowlers are out of form since 2021 or so, and only Trent Boult has shown any consistency in performance. Others like Ferguson and Jamieson have been getting hammered by the opponent batsmen in recent matches. On top of all this, they don't have a quality spinner. Mitchell Santner and Ish Sodhi are included in the squad, but these two are not exactly world class.
Still more than a week left and few reports did suggest that he's recovering quite well so there might be some possibility. We might get our answers when we get into warm up fixtures.

IDK, they were hardly fielding their first choice team in ODI bilateral (Everyone was doing this) so you never know and like i said many times these guys always punch above their weights so there is a possibility of some surprise.  
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September 26, 2023, 05:15:03 AM
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BCB and New Zealand series

I don't understand how the Bangladesh-New Zealand series is being looked at where other teams are looking at the bilateral series very seriously before the World Cup. 
First, a 14-member squad was announced to rest several players from the original XI and give opportunities to newcomers. After the first match was abandoned due to rain, they added some players to the XI in the next match, out of 14 members, and in that match they lost and in the last third ODI, they announced to bring back most of the original XI. I can't find any reason behind their sudden change of decision. While other teams have announced their squads for the World Cup long ago, Bangladesh has yet to announce their squads. So is the announcement of the Bangladesh team dependent on the third ODI match against New Zealand?

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September 26, 2023, 05:43:32 AM
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Australia continuesly losing all their recent matches , first to SA and now India but their overalls record in the previous world cup is better. India is no doubt looking very strong team, Win Asia cup and now two consecutive won against Australia and maybe whitewash tomorrow.

 I think Pakistan will be fourth team to qualify for semi final but fitness is biggest problem in Pakistani players. In previous t20, Shaheen shah afridi injury in his last over became the reason for Pakistan to rule out from the world cup and also in this Asia cup Two best bowlers injured against SA match. Warmup matches will gives some results how teams are playing in India pitch condition.

India is definitely a strong team,but the Australian team is not weak either. Australia has great batsmen and bowlers.They have the ability to come back in the series.We cannot prove Australia a weak team by failing one or two series.Bangladesh defeated India in a match in Asia Cup.From this you can guess that the team which has a good day wins.

I think the Pakistani team has the ability to win the World Cup .As Pakistan's batting line is strong, if Pakistan improves its performance in other areas.The fitness of Pakistani players has been a problem since the beginning. If you look at the past record, you will see Pakistan's best players getting injured in important World Cup matches or tournaments. Pakistani team selectors need to seriously consider this matter.
Once Australia team used to be strong, and any matches played against them used to be a winning match for Australia. Those are past days and slowly the power of Australia have got diminished and other teams started to progress. Team Australia didn't go completely down, but their dominance level have got dragged down. Once again they're trying to keep their level high. Today's match is going to be tough for Australia as they have the pressure to win atleast a match and avoid whitewash.

Pakistan team at present have got good batting as well as bowling line-up. Injuries were common with sportsman and it is the responsibility of the administration to keep things planned and give rest for the important players prior to important tournaments.

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September 26, 2023, 06:00:22 AM
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Once Australia team used to be strong, and any matches played against them used to be a winning match for Australia. Those are past days and slowly the power of Australia have got diminished and other teams started to progress. Team Australia didn't go completely down, but their dominance level have got dragged down. Once again they're trying to keep their level high. Today's match is going to be tough for Australia as they have the pressure to win atleast a match and avoid whitewash.

Well, the Australia team is still one of the strongest team and they will win most of the matches played against most of the teams. However recently India and England can give a tough time to them and especially in this World Cup India will be a threat to all the other teams as we all know that India is best at their home ground.

The last ODI match between these two teams will be played at Rajkot. This match could be tricky if you are looking to bet on it. While India has more chances of winning (as they already proved by winning two times), the last match could have a different result as Australia will never want to end a series in 3-0 loss.

Really difficult to decide on whom to bet on.


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September 26, 2023, 06:19:05 AM
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During the Asian Cup matches between India and Pakistan were ruined by rain so the Pakistani team did not perform through rain but I think Pakistan will give the Indian team a very tough time in this World Cup.

This is not an excuse to defend your team. India performed in those conditions, and Pakistan failed, end of the story. You can not blame everything on rain. Yes, it somehow alters the momentum, but they are professionals. They have to adjust to the conditions quickly.
Also, against Sri Lanks, Pakistan did not perform well. They made just over 100 runs in the first 25 overs. Although, after the rain, it was easy to bat but still, SL played sensibly. Overall, Poor bowling performance by Pakistan in the middle overs.

I am not sure whether Kane Williamson has fully recovered from injury. He has been included in their squad, but has been out of action for quite some time. And their bowlers are out of form since 2021 or so, and only Trent Boult has shown any consistency in performance. Others like Ferguson and Jamieson have been getting hammered by the opponent batsmen in recent matches. On top of all this, they don't have a quality spinner. Mitchell Santner and Ish Sodhi are included in the squad, but these two are not exactly world class.

NZ batting is strong, and few of their players are in good nick. It will be interesting to see how Kane will perform after a long absence. Apart from Trent Boult, I think NZ can count on Matt Henry as a wicket-taking option. Sodhi did perform in the last match against BAN, but I agree with your point of view that he is not a quality world-class bowler. Overall, I think NZ have a slim chance to win the title. But they can surprise anyone.
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September 26, 2023, 06:37:08 AM
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Still more than a week left and few reports did suggest that he's recovering quite well so there might be some possibility. We might get our answers when we get into warm up fixtures.

IDK, they were hardly fielding their first choice team in ODI bilateral (Everyone was doing this) so you never know and like i said many times these guys always punch above their weights so there is a possibility of some surprise.  

Well.. I agree that they punch above their weight at times. But at the same time, historically New Zealand hasn't performed well in Indian conditions, unlike the case with England or Australia. They have a very weak spin bowling lineup, and this is going to be a big minus for them going forward. On top of that I am not sure how their batsmen will handle the South Asian spinners in the turning pitches of India. But again, New Zealand is a team that is capable of shocking the favorites (in case they can get adjusted to the pitch conditions).

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September 26, 2023, 07:56:33 AM
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And I am not aware of any kind of violence among them if you have any knowledge about their fighting then please proceed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/zeenews.india.com/cricket/babar-azam-vs-shaheen-afridi-pakistan-team-split-wide-open-after-asia-cup-2023-exit-2663265.html/amp

This happened very recently and it seems to be true which is why they aren't in the best state going into the World Cup.

But again, New Zealand is a team that is capable of shocking the favorites (in case they can get adjusted to the pitch conditions).
They cannot do it everytime though. I feel like they might crash out pretty quickly this time around since their batting line-up isn't really great though their bowling lineup looks good. Let's see what happens.

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September 26, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
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I don't understand how the Bangladesh-New Zealand series is being looked at where other teams are looking at the bilateral series very seriously before the World Cup. 
First, a 14-member squad was announced to rest several players from the original XI and give opportunities to newcomers. After the first match was abandoned due to rain, they added some players to the XI in the next match, out of 14 members, and in that match they lost and in the last third ODI, they announced to bring back most of the original XI. I can't find any reason behind their sudden change of decision. While other teams have announced their squads for the World Cup long ago, Bangladesh has yet to announce their squads. So is the announcement of the Bangladesh team dependent on the third ODI match against New Zealand?
I don't know why they are delaying that decision to announce their squad for ICC World Cup and on the basis of the third ODI match against New Zealand they will select the squad, I don't think they will do this. Their are trial matches and chief selector has a good eye to see who is capable for  ICC squad. I think there something else behind this.

By the way if we talk about today match so match is started and Bangladesh is playing first turn. And lost 2 wickets in first 2.1 overs. And this will make a lot of pressure on Bangladesh team. So I don't think so the Bangladesh win today match too.

 
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September 26, 2023, 09:08:29 AM
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NZ batting is strong, and few of their players are in good nick. It will be interesting to see how Kane will perform after a long absence. Apart from Trent Boult, I think NZ can count on Matt Henry as a wicket-taking option. Sodhi did perform in the last match against BAN, but I agree with your point of view that he is not a quality world-class bowler. Overall, I think NZ have a slim chance to win the title. But they can surprise anyone.

Do not compare their performance against Bangladesh as Bangladesh is a weak side and most of the nations will easily win against them.

In today's match, the 3rd ODI, between these two countries, Bangladesh are again struggling at 43 with 3 wickets down in the eighth over. They decided to bat first but they would not have expected this start where their both openers Tanzid Hasan and Zakir Hasan weren't able to score. Only their captain Najmul Hossain is looking to score runs at a good pace but he definitely needs support at the other end.

If NZ win today's match, they will win the series but if somehow Bangladesh win this (need a miracle), then the series will be a draw, as the first match was a draw due to no play (rain).


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September 26, 2023, 09:14:15 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bat first in the third and final ODI match. Zakir Hasan is making his ODI debut for Bangladesh and Dean Foxcroft is making his ODI debut for New Zealand. Bangladesh's current score is 40 runs with the loss of 3 early wickets in just 6.4 overs. From New Zealand, Adam Milne bowled a brilliant spell and picked up 2 wickets by giving 18 runs in 3 overs and Trent Boul also bowled well picking 1 wicket of Tanzid Hasan who scored only 5 runs in 5 balls. What a start by New Zealand picked early wickets and put pressure on Bangladesh batters. Now Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim are playing if the partnership is more than 70 runs then Bangladesh have a chance to cross 200 runs otherwise it seems difficult for Bangladesh to set a target of 150 plus for New Zealand.

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September 26, 2023, 09:37:38 AM
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The third ODI match between Bangladesh and New Zealand has started. Bangladesh cricket team is batting after winning the toss and deciding to bat first. Bangladesh cricket team batting disaster at the beginning of the game. Bangladesh cricket team has lost three important wickets so far. It is impossible to say how well the rest of the Bangladesh cricket team's batsmen Google can perform. In today's match Bangladesh cricket team needs to hold wickets to give New Zealand cricket team a big team target. If the Bangladesh cricket team can give a big target to New Zealand in this third match today, then Bangladesh will have a chance to win against New Zealand. Despite knowing the poor performance of Bangladesh cricket team, I have selected Bangladesh as favorite team and placed the bet in today's match

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September 26, 2023, 09:45:08 AM
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I think India was also not playing with there full strength in yesterday game. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are not playing in yesterday's game. KL Rahul was Indian Captain in place of Rohit Sharma. Both teams are giving rest to there main players to avoid injury ahead of ODI WC. With recent wins its very much clear that India is favourite to lift WC trophy.
No doubt ,India is most strongest team whole the World but luck is very important to Win World Cup Final.India played excellent.Shubman Gill and Iyer made centuries for their teams.Glen Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh  are top performer of Australia .When they will be fit,this team will give tough to India in World Cup.India showed thay without big players like Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli ,India can win match easily against Australia.

As you know World Cup is so close and the country that hosts this World Cup is India and Pakistan’s players don’t have much experience playing cricket in India. I am not saying this.

This was asked by a journalist in a press conference with Babar Azam and Babar Azam said that I would not give the answer to this question at this time. I will give the answer to everyone on the ground.
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September 26, 2023, 10:42:35 AM
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The third ODI match between Bangladesh and New Zealand has started. Bangladesh cricket team is batting after winning the toss and deciding to bat first. Bangladesh cricket team batting disaster at the beginning of the game. Bangladesh cricket team has lost three important wickets so far. It is impossible to say how well the rest of the Bangladesh cricket team's batsmen Google can perform. In today's match Bangladesh cricket team needs to hold wickets to give New Zealand cricket team a big team target. If the Bangladesh cricket team can give a big target to New Zealand in this third match today, then Bangladesh will have a chance to win against New Zealand. Despite knowing the poor performance of Bangladesh cricket team, I have selected Bangladesh as favorite team and placed the bet in today's match
Already 6 wickets of Bangladesh team have fallen. At the moment, Bangladesh's run is 157 after losing 6 wickets in 28.2 overs. Bangladesh team lost wickets in the beginning and today's match is very difficult.  Bangladesh team is favorite for you and me but betting for Bangladesh is very scary.  But if Bangladesh can score 250 runs today then maybe we can hope to win with New Zealand. Moreover, I cannot expect the victory of the Bangladesh team in today's match. As a citizen of Bangladesh I always support Bangladesh team and hope to win.

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September 26, 2023, 11:09:11 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.

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September 26, 2023, 11:26:52 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.
As a Bangladeshi supporter, we are all hopeful that Bangladesh will return to parity in today's match, but Bangladesh's innings was bowled out for 171 runs. Although the first match against New Zealand was abandoned due to rain, New Zealand set a target of 255 runs to Bangladesh in the second match but unfortunately Bangladesh were bowled out for 168 runs. Despite having its own venue, such a poor performance by Bangladesh really hurts the hearts of cricket fans. Bangladesh's small target of 172 runs in today's match is not a complicated target for today's match but New Zealand will win easily in today's match and New Zealand will whitewash Bangladesh by 2-0 in the series.

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September 26, 2023, 11:27:28 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.

Bangladesh has collapsed once again and fail to play 50 over .They don’t have cricket sense ,I thik they should quit their game if the play like this .The selector of BCB also need to choose quality batsman from all around the country .New Zealand played a exceptinal way on bowling, fielding .They have team affort and Bangladesh were keep loosing every time of spare on their innings .Bangladesh should need to play better cricket if they play like this they can be next Kenya .I think they need to improve their mind as we know cricket is also a mind game where Bangladesh loosing continuously .They need to do hard work specially on batting unit .Hope we can see a better team and better play on world cup for Bangladesh .

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Bangladesh has collapsed once again and fail to play 50 over .They don’t have cricket sense ,I thik they should quit their game if the play like this .The selector of BCB also need to choose quality batsman from all around the country .New Zealand played a exceptinal way on bowling, fielding .They have team affort and Bangladesh were keep loosing every time of spare on their innings .Bangladesh should need to play better cricket if they play like this they can be next Kenya .I think they need to improve their mind as we know cricket is also a mind game where Bangladesh loosing continuously .They need to do hard work specially on batting unit .Hope we can see a better team and better play on world cup for Bangladesh .

I guess there was no intention to win a match or win the series. The purpose of this series is to try out the performers and practice for the World Cup. There is no interest in this match or in this series as a Bangladeshi. More interesting drama happening in Bangladesh cricket outside of the ground as Sakib and the coach agree not to take Tamim Iqbal into the World Cup squad.

If Bangladesh team management selects Tamim Iqbal for the World Cup squad, Sakib is not going to play in the World Cup. Tamim said he is not 100% fit and he cannot play all the matches. Let's see where it goes.

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September 26, 2023, 11:42:18 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.

Bangladesh has collapsed once again and fail to play 50 over .They don’t have cricket sense ,I thik they should quit their game if the play like this .The selector of BCB also need to choose quality batsman from all around the country .New Zealand played a exceptinal way on bowling, fielding .They have team affort and Bangladesh were keep loosing every time of spare on their innings .Bangladesh should need to play better cricket if they play like this they can be next Kenya .I think they need to improve their mind as we know cricket is also a mind game where Bangladesh loosing continuously .They need to do hard work specially on batting unit .Hope we can see a better team and better play on world cup for Bangladesh .

Bangladesh played no different than they played at the 2nd ODI. In this match, they were all out at 171 and in the previous match, they only scored 168 runs.

As i mentioned in my last post, their captain Najmul Hossain Shanto played well but he did not get the much needed support from the other end. He alone made 76 runs but none of the other Bangladesh batsmen made any score. Adam Milne took 4 wickets and Trent Boult took 2 wickets. The Bangladesh bowlers looked helpless in the match.

Bangladesh bowlers do not have the strength to defend this score.

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September 26, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bat first. Bangladesh lose 3 wickets on 35 runs. Then Shato played well and made a half century for his country. Shanto is not out on 72 score. Adam Milne took 3 wickets by giving 34 runs in 6 overs. Trent boult took 2 wickets by giving 25 runs in 5 overs. New Zealand is favorite for this match. Bangladesh score is 158 with fall of 6 wickets. New Zealand is leading with 1-0 in 3 matches series. Finn Allen and Henry Nicholls are good batters. If they made a good score , New Zealand will win. Bangladesh bowling is not strong as such as bowling of New Zealand and New Zealand fielding is top class.

Bangladesh has collapsed once again and fail to play 50 over .They don’t have cricket sense ,I thik they should quit their game if the play like this .The selector of BCB also need to choose quality batsman from all around the country .New Zealand played a exceptinal way on bowling, fielding .They have team affort and Bangladesh were keep loosing every time of spare on their innings .Bangladesh should need to play better cricket if they play like this they can be next Kenya .I think they need to improve their mind as we know cricket is also a mind game where Bangladesh loosing continuously .They need to do hard work specially on batting unit .Hope we can see a better team and better play on world cup for Bangladesh .

Bangladesh played no different than they played at the 2nd ODI. In this match, they were all out at 171 and in the previous match, they only scored 168 runs.

As i mentioned in my last post, their captain Najmul Hossain Shanto played well but he did not get the much needed support from the other end. He alone made 76 runs but none of the other Bangladesh batsmen made any score. Adam Milne took 4 wickets and Trent Boult took 2 wickets. The Bangladesh bowlers looked helpless in the match.

Bangladesh bowlers do not have the strength to defend this score.


Bangladesh's batting performance is quite disappointing, except for Shanto. Najmul Hossain Shanto played well, but the rest of the batters couldn't support him effectively. Overall, Bangladesh's batting has been on the decline recently, even struggling to bat through the full 50 overs. New Zealand only needs 172 to win the match and confirm the series. When target is cheap, we can't expect too much from Bangladesh's bowling unit. This series has been frustrating for Bangladesh before heading into the ODI World Cup.
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