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October 02, 2023, 05:24:49 PM
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http://What a drama we have witnessed today in this match between South Africa and New Zealand. At no point, we thought that South Africa could win the match but then the rain came, the DLS method came into play and guess what, we have South Africa, the winner of this match. Though the result of this match won't matter, as it is a warm up match, but recently we see to many warn up match getting badly effected by rain.

I am forecasting some big upsets in the upcoming world cup.  Smiley

The rain will affect the world cup badly,  as we have seen previously in the asia cup. In a match between Pakistan and India before the super 4,  was badly affected by rain,  in which only India batted but the Pakistan team didn't even bat. And that was a crucial match between these two countries,
everyone was waiting for.
I hope coming matches in the world cup would be without rain. Cheesy . In today's match we have seen a great performance by South Africa but all was in vain,  as new zealand was given win by DLS method due to rain. It's ok that was just a warm up match but should contrate on other matches in the world cup.

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October 02, 2023, 05:36:33 PM
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Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bat first. Due to rain the warm-up match against England reduced to 37 overs. After playing 37 overs Bangladesh set a decent score of 188/9 against England in this ODI World Cup 2023 warm-up. Their batting performance could have been mush better if other batters played apart Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan. Now, it's up to the bowlers to defend this total against the English batters.

England's batting looks like it's a T20 match. Bangladesh collected only 189 runs. The target for England today is 197 runs in 37 overs. England batting carefully will win very easily. But they are batting aggressively from the beginning of the innings. England collected 55 runs in 5 overs. England would be wrong to think Bangladeshi bowlers are weak or inexperienced now. England lost their two openers for 51 runs. Bairstow collected 34 runs off 21 balls. And Dawid Malan returned to the dressing room with 4 runs. England need 141 runs in 31 overs. It is not a difficult task. But if England's batsmen bat too aggressively then they are likely to lose. Bangladeshi bowlers have been performing quite well in recent times.
England is playing very well. 188 total is not enough against England to win. Joss  Buttler  scored 30 runs by using 15 balls. Jonny Bairstow made 34 runs in 21 balls. The score of England is 114 with fall of 5 wickets.
Mustafizur Rehman took 2 wickets by giving 23 runs in 3 overs.England  is defending champion.England won the last World Cup against New Zealand. England can perform best in all conditions against any team and can perform well in all grounds of the World. This World Cup is hosted by India, India is most favorite team to win this World Cup according to Journalists. England will win this match easily and England is equally favorite team like India  to win this World Cup.

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October 02, 2023, 06:01:41 PM
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England is playing very well. 188 total is not enough against England to win. Joss  Buttler  scored 30 runs by using 15 balls. Jonny Bairstow made 34 runs in 21 balls. The score of England is 114 with fall of 5 wickets.
Mustafizur Rehman took 2 wickets by giving 23 runs in 3 overs.England  is defending champion.England won the last World Cup against New Zealand. England can perform best in all conditions against any team and can perform well in all grounds of the World. This World Cup is hosted by India, India is most favorite team to win this World Cup according to Journalists. England will win this match easily and England is equally favorite team like India  to win this World Cup.

It was a comfortable victory for England today. Due to DLS England were required to chase 197 runs in 37 overs but they did it in 25th over. Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz were only two prominent scorer from Bangladesh side. 197 is not a target you give to side like England and then expect your bowlers to win the game for you.
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October 02, 2023, 06:23:16 PM
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New Zealand seriously lucked out against South Africa who looked like they might actually chase down the score thanks to De Kock, Miller etc. Boult was their only great bowler as usual.

On the other hand, England won comfortably against the Bongs thanks to a late blitz by Ali(CSK pro). Miraz batted well though.

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October 02, 2023, 06:50:57 PM
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New Zealand seriously lucked out against South Africa who looked like they might actually chase down the score thanks to De Kock, Miller etc. Boult was their only great bowler as usual.

There is no doubt that New Zealand played very well. The performance of the New Zealand batsmen was quite good. At the same time their bowlers have been able to bowl controlled against South Africa. The target was 219 runs in 37 overs. It was not a tough task for South Africa as it was a warm up match. However, South Africa were defeated due to New Zealand's controlled bowling. The New Zealand team can be considered one of the favorite teams of this year's World Cup. Because they are in very good shape.


On the other hand, England won comfortably against the Bongs thanks to a late blitz by Ali(CSK pro). Miraz batted well though.

Bangladesh's batting was weak as usual against England. Bangladesh managed to collect only 188 runs in 37 overs. It is unlikely to do well against the England team with such a low target. England collected 197 runs in 24.1 overs, and took a very easy win against Bangladesh. Bangladesh's batting is very weak.
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October 02, 2023, 07:13:07 PM
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Bangladesh's batting was weak as usual against England. Bangladesh managed to collect only 188 runs in 37 overs. It is unlikely to do well against the England team with such a low target. England collected 197 runs in 24.1 overs, and took a very easy win against Bangladesh. Bangladesh's batting is very weak.

Yeah, it's very disappointing Bangladesh's batting but we all know that the Bangladesh team is also not trustworthy like Pakistan and Sri Lanka. But in today's match, I noticed that the field of the England team was very poor like they were stopping the ball through their feet and bots. They can easily stop the ball by using their hands but they did not. The Bangladesh bowlers were not bad as they out their openers on just 8 runs but the England batsman easily won this match.

But yeah it's a warmup match and the teams are just trying to understand the bowling and batting of players and also the new ones, In warm-up matches, win or loss does not matter but the only thing is to understand the other teams.
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October 02, 2023, 07:57:02 PM
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Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bat first. Due to rain the warm-up match against England reduced to 37 overs. After playing 37 overs Bangladesh set a decent score of 188/9 against England in this ODI World Cup 2023 warm-up. Their batting performance could have been mush better if other batters played apart Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan. Now, it's up to the bowlers to defend this total against the English batters.
Bangladesh batting order are going with one of thier worst time ever since long time and still continuing same kind of standard which is quite disappointing for every Bangladeshi fan because they expect some good results but at the end they done everytime something horrible, no doubt thier bowling lineup reaised alot and already showed good results but you can't win any important game only by good performance in bowling but you have to contribute good with bat too, let take an example of today match Bangladesh batting performance, if we neglect just two player who scored some decent runs then entire team hasn't scored even a 50 runs combinely. Which is clear indication if they continue such performance then no doubt they will be knockout as soon as possible

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October 02, 2023, 08:15:50 PM
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Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bat first. Due to rain the warm-up match against England reduced to 37 overs. After playing 37 overs Bangladesh set a decent score of 188/9 against England in this ODI World Cup 2023 warm-up. Their batting performance could have been mush better if other batters played apart Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan. Now, it's up to the bowlers to defend this total against the English batters.
Bangladesh batting order are going with one of thier worst time ever since long time and still continuing same kind of standard which is quite disappointing for every Bangladeshi fan because they expect some good results but at the end they done everytime something horrible, no doubt thier bowling lineup reaised alot and already showed good results but you can't win any important game only by good performance in bowling but you have to contribute good with bat too, let take an example of today match Bangladesh batting performance, if we neglect just two player who scored some decent runs then entire team hasn't scored even a 50 runs combinely. Which is clear indication if they continue such performance then no doubt they will be knockout as soon as possible

The weakness of Bangladesh's batting order is nothing new. We have been seeing this for a long time. Especially the performance of Bangladesh's top order batsmen is very weak and erratic. Bangladesh's top order almost always fails against big and experienced bowlers. And because of top order failure, Bangladesh's overall performance is very poor. The performance of Bangladesh's bowlers has improved. Earlier the team depended only on spinners. But now the pace bowlers are also bowling very well. But if Bangladesh's batting order is not strong, this team has no chance to do well in the World Cup.

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October 02, 2023, 08:41:09 PM
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Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bat first. Due to rain the warm-up match against England reduced to 37 overs. After playing 37 overs Bangladesh set a decent score of 188/9 against England in this ODI World Cup 2023 warm-up. Their batting performance could have been mush better if other batters played apart Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan. Now, it's up to the bowlers to defend this total against the English batters.
Bangladesh batting order are going with one of thier worst time ever since long time and still continuing same kind of standard which is quite disappointing for every Bangladeshi fan because they expect some good results but at the end they done everytime something horrible, no doubt thier bowling lineup reaised alot and already showed good results but you can't win any important game only by good performance in bowling but you have to contribute good with bat too, let take an example of today match Bangladesh batting performance, if we neglect just two player who scored some decent runs then entire team hasn't scored even a 50 runs combinely. Which is clear indication if they continue such performance then no doubt they will be knockout as soon as possible

The weakness of Bangladesh's batting order is nothing new. We have been seeing this for a long time. Especially the performance of Bangladesh's top order batsmen is very weak and erratic. Bangladesh's top order almost always fails against big and experienced bowlers. And because of top order failure, Bangladesh's overall performance is very poor. The performance of Bangladesh's bowlers has improved. Earlier the team depended only on spinners. But now the pace bowlers are also bowling very well. But if Bangladesh's batting order is not strong, this team has no chance to do well in the World Cup.
The performance of the Bangladeshi bowlers has not improved much, but it has to be said that there has been a little improvement. Meanwhile, Bangladesh can never strengthen the batting order due to not working under the guidance of Bangladesh Cricket Team. It is natural that if you run the team with all the batsmen except the good top order batsman, it will do badly. Bangladesh cricket team is completely politically controlled. We can clearly say that as long as the Bangladesh cricket team remains under political control, the Bangladesh cricket team will not be able to prosper. Currently there is a storm of discussion and criticism in Bangladesh cricket which can be seen if we pay a little attention. So all in all, we can't see anything but bad condition of Bangladesh cricket team.

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October 02, 2023, 08:47:27 PM
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Bangladesh's batting was weak as usual against England. Bangladesh managed to collect only 188 runs in 37 overs. It is unlikely to do well against the England team with such a low target. England collected 197 runs in 24.1 overs, and took a very easy win against Bangladesh. Bangladesh's batting is very weak.
Yeah, it's very disappointing Bangladesh's batting but we all know that the Bangladesh team is also not trustworthy like Pakistan and Sri Lanka. But in today's match, I noticed that the field of the England team was very poor like they were stopping the ball through their feet and bots. They can easily stop the ball by using their hands but they did not. The Bangladesh bowlers were not bad as they out their openers on just 8 runs but the England batsman easily won this match.

But yeah it's a warmup match and the teams are just trying to understand the bowling and batting of players and also the new ones, In warm-up matches, win or loss does not matter but the only thing is to understand the other teams.

While all the teams in the cricket world are strengthening their batting line-ups, Bangladesh is going backwards. Afghanistan and Sri Lanka are stronger in the batting order compared to Bangladesh. I think even the performance of the Netherlands batsmen is better than the performance of the Bangladeshi players. The Bangladesh team is still surviving because of the performance of their bowlers, and a handful of players like Shakib, Mushfiq and Miraz. If Shakib and Mushfiq retire, this team will deteriorate further. But if Liton Das is in form and plays well in the World Cup then Bangladesh has a chance to win several matches. Also young TanzidHasan played well in both warm up matches.
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October 02, 2023, 09:12:03 PM
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It was a comfortable victory for England today. Due to DLS England were required to chase 197 runs in 37 overs but they did it in 25th over. Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz were only two prominent scorer from Bangladesh side. 197 is not a target you give to side like England and then expect your bowlers to win the game for you.
It's really embarrassing moments for team Bangladesh because thier batting especially top order failed again and again and due to that reason most of the time thier middle order suffered because due to quick dismissal of top order they were really in huge pressure but thanks to mehdy Hasan who safe them from such a brutal defeat otherwise England will chased such a small target in first 10overs. Anyway England show his class by chasedown the required target before a dozens of overs left with a phenomenal power hitting of Ali by showing his class how well they are prepared and ready to face any big challenge at world Cup

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October 03, 2023, 12:38:12 AM
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Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bat first. Due to rain the warm-up match against England reduced to 37 overs. After playing 37 overs Bangladesh set a decent score of 188/9 against England in this ODI World Cup 2023 warm-up. Their batting performance could have been mush better if other batters played apart Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan. Now, it's up to the bowlers to defend this total against the English batters.
A comfortable victory for England in their second warm-up match against Bangladesh. England won by 4 wickets DLS method. Bangladesh not batting well Score only 188 runs in loss of 9 wickets in 37 overs. Mehday Hassan played a good knock of 74 runs in 89 balls and Tanzid Hasan played a good inning of 45 runs in just 44 balls, and reached a total of 180 plus runs for Bangladesh. England bowlers bowling outstanding especially Reece Topley picked up 3 Crucial wickets by just giving 23 runs in 5 overs and David Willey also picked up 2 wickets by giving 26 runs in 5 Overs.

After Rain stopped and play resumed The revised DLS target for England will be 197 runs in 37 overs. England team chased down 197 runs in a loss of 6 wickets in 24.1 overs. Jonny Bairstow played also a good inning of 34 runs in 21 balls with Moeen Ali. England leg spinner Adil Rashid bowled too much spin and picked 2 important wickets by giving 27 runs only. Moeen Ali played an outstanding nine with the bat Score 57 runs in just 39 balls for England and won this warm-up match against Bangladesh.

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Warmup match between India and Netherlands is scheduled for today at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. But I am 100% sure that it may not get completed, as heavy rains are ongoing in that part of the country for the last few days. The other two matches are at Guwahati and Hyderabad respectively (Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka, and Australia vs Pakistan respectively). With so many warmup matches getting washed out as a result of rain, I am really concerned about the main tournament as well. At least during the initial phase, rain is going to have an impact.

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October 03, 2023, 05:04:45 AM
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Warmup match between India and Netherlands is scheduled for today at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. But I am 100% sure that it may not get completed, as heavy rains are ongoing in that part of the country for the last few days. The other two matches are at Guwahati and Hyderabad respectively (Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka, and Australia vs Pakistan respectively). With so many warmup matches getting washed out as a result of rain, I am really concerned about the main tournament as well. At least during the initial phase, rain is going to have an impact.
I think there i a relationship between the rain and the cricket Grin Grin whenever the match starts the rain also comes and disturbs the rain like the husband and wife that do after a fight Grin. Talking about the Indian and the Netherlands team it is quite difficult for the Netherlands team to gain victory against India and if they then I will consider the Netherlands team for achieving such a huge victory. if we talk about the success rate the Netherlands team played a total of 114 matches of which 39 they won and 69 they lost on the other side the indian team played 1041 matches of which 547 they won and 441 they lost. The Indian team played more matches but if we decide on the basis of win and lost matches then in this context the Indian team are much stronger the Netherlands also won many matches in such a short time period which shows that this team will give a tough time to the Indian team.
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October 03, 2023, 06:01:04 AM
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England is playing very well. 188 total is not enough against England to win. Joss  Buttler  scored 30 runs by using 15 balls. Jonny Bairstow made 34 runs in 21 balls. The score of England is 114 with fall of 5 wickets.
Mustafizur Rehman took 2 wickets by giving 23 runs in 3 overs.England  is defending champion.England won the last World Cup against New Zealand. England can perform best in all conditions against any team and can perform well in all grounds of the World. This World Cup is hosted by India, India is most favorite team to win this World Cup according to Journalists. England will win this match easily and England is equally favorite team like India  to win this World Cup.

As there were so many warm up matches, england got a chance to use all the experienced and talented batsmen in their squad . That is why scoring 197 runs was not a difficult task for the team. But it would not have been so easy for England to win if this was a World Cup match. Because the Bangladeshi bowlers are doing quite well now.

I am looking forward to enjoy Australia vs Pakistan match today. Pakistan's pace bowling attack is excellent. But in the last few matches they did not do well. The team could not do well even in the Asia Cup. Doing well in the warm-up against Australia will boost the confidence of the Pakistani players. This is why I think today's warm up match is very important for Pakistan.

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I think there i a relationship between the rain and the cricket Grin Grin whenever the match starts the rain also comes and disturbs the rain like the husband and wife that do after a fight Grin. Talking about the Indian and the Netherlands team it is quite difficult for the Netherlands team to gain victory against India and if they then I will consider the Netherlands team for achieving such a huge victory. if we talk about the success rate the Netherlands team played a total of 114 matches of which 39 they won and 69 they lost on the other side the indian team played 1041 matches of which 547 they won and 441 they lost. The Indian team played more matches but if we decide on the basis of win and lost matches then in this context the Indian team are much stronger the Netherlands also won many matches in such a short time period which shows that this team will give a tough time to the Indian team.

Well.. I don't know how much you can blame the rains. Everyone knows that end of September-beginning of October is like the last stage of rainy season in Southern India. The ICC and BCCI should be blamed for such poor scheduling of the world cup. And I am sure that the media rights holders (Disney-Star) will be unhappy about it. They paid more than $3 billion for the 4-year cycle to purchase the TV and OTT media rights. Already a lot analysts are claiming that Star paid a lot more than what the media rights are worth.

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It was a comfortable victory for England today. Due to DLS England were required to chase 197 runs in 37 overs but they did it in 25th over. Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz were only two prominent scorer from Bangladesh side. 197 is not a target you give to side like England and then expect your bowlers to win the game for you.
It's really embarrassing moments for team Bangladesh because thier batting especially top order failed again and again and due to that reason most of the time thier middle order suffered because due to quick dismissal of top order they were really in huge pressure but thanks to mehdy Hasan who safe them from such a brutal defeat otherwise England will chased such a small target in first 10overs. Anyway England show his class by chasedown the required target before a dozens of overs left with a phenomenal power hitting of Ali by showing his class how well they are prepared and ready to face any big challenge at world Cup
Batting 50 overs will be challenging for Bangladesh. Bangladesh managed to bat 50 overs only in the Asia Cup and in the first warm-up match of the World Cup they raised hopes that they are ready to bat 50 overs but against England we saw a major batting disaster for Bangladesh. 

One of the most important points of a team is the top order batsmen, if the top order batsmen don't get off to a good start then it has a negative impact throughout the match. 

In the second warm-up match against England, I don't know whether I should praise Bangladesh's bowlers or blame the England batsmen's haste for giving away wickets. Except Taskin Ahmed, no bowler could bowl an economical ball against England. However, the bowlers managed to pick up wickets even though they were a bit expansive. 
If Bangladesh's batting is good then I believe this team can make things happen.

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October 03, 2023, 07:39:06 AM
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Well.. I don't know how much you can blame the rains. Everyone knows that end of September-beginning of October is like the last stage of rainy season in Southern India. The ICC and BCCI should be blamed for such poor scheduling of the world cup. And I am sure that the media rights holders (Disney-Star) will be unhappy about it. They paid more than $3 billion for the 4-year cycle to purchase the TV and OTT media rights. Already a lot analysts are claiming that Star paid a lot more than what the media rights are worth.
They don't really have many options though thanks to so many popular leagues popping up these days. However, on the bright side, it seems that this October will be pretty hot in most of India thanks to the El Nino effect.

El Nino could actually end up helping the ODI World Cup in a huge way if you think about it.

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October 03, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
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It was a comfortable victory for England today. Due to DLS England were required to chase 197 runs in 37 overs but they did it in 25th over. Tanzid Hasan and Mehidy Hasan Miraz were only two prominent scorer from Bangladesh side. 197 is not a target you give to side like England and then expect your bowlers to win the game for you.
It's really embarrassing moments for team Bangladesh because thier batting especially top order failed again and again and due to that reason most of the time thier middle order suffered because due to quick dismissal of top order they were really in huge pressure but thanks to mehdy Hasan who safe them from such a brutal defeat otherwise England will chased such a small target in first 10overs. Anyway England show his class by chasedown the required target before a dozens of overs left with a phenomenal power hitting of Ali by showing his class how well they are prepared and ready to face any big challenge at world Cup
Batting 50 overs will be challenging for Bangladesh. Bangladesh managed to bat 50 overs only in the Asia Cup and in the first warm-up match of the World Cup they raised hopes that they are ready to bat 50 overs but against England we saw a major batting disaster for Bangladesh. 

One of the most important points of a team is the top order batsmen, if the top order batsmen don't get off to a good start then it has a negative impact throughout the match. 

In the second warm-up match against England, I don't know whether I should praise Bangladesh's bowlers or blame the England batsmen's haste for giving away wickets. Except Taskin Ahmed, no bowler could bowl an economical ball against England. However, the bowlers managed to pick up wickets even though they were a bit expansive. 
If Bangladesh's batting is good then I believe this team can make things happen.
You have said absolutely logical things, in every match it has been seen that the Bangladesh team players, in all the matches in which the top order batting has been able to perform well, in those matches the Bangladesh team has been able to do something well. Especially in yesterday's match against England, Bangladesh team players, last order batting was worse. Now it is always seen that even though Bangladesh team players can perform well in one or two matches, Bangladesh team is failing to perform well in most of the matches.

Currently, Bangladesh team has become very weak due to the change of many skilled players in the Bangladesh team. I think Bangladesh Cricket Board needs to think again to make Bangladesh cricket team strong again

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October 03, 2023, 08:31:33 AM
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Warmup match between India and Netherlands is scheduled for today at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram. But I am 100% sure that it may not get completed, as heavy rains are ongoing in that part of the country for the last few days. The other two matches are at Guwahati and Hyderabad respectively (Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka, and Australia vs Pakistan respectively). With so many warmup matches getting washed out as a result of rain, I am really concerned about the main tournament as well. At least during the initial phase, rain is going to have an impact.
Yesterday matches was interrupted due to rain but DLS method gave the results.
And as you mentioned today we have three warm up matches. Sri Lanka and Afghanistan will play the match in Guwahati yesterday there were rain and today it can interfering again and Match delayed due to rain.
Thiruvananthapuram already have many rainy days. And today again this match also delayed due to rain. (India vs Netherlands)
And third is the Pakistan vs Australia and this is Hyderabad so I think this match can be played without any interruption. And Australia chose the bat first. So let's enjoy. Smiley

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