ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Tony116]

Tour match was finished now and UAE batting inning also ended now, at the end of their batting inning, UAE squad scored only 105 scores and UAE squad played almost 30.4 overs and all squad got out from crease. Afghanistan squad was not  made good scores but their bowling inning was wonderful and they break down all batters of UAE squad when 109 scores were remained for defend. Only this Dhruv Parashar  batter played good inning and he collected 38 scores off 61 deliveries.

This result was expected because Afghanistan team is much stronger then UAE. Yamin Ahmadzai took five wickets along with Bilal Sami who took two early wickets. Interestingly UAE were 66 for 9 in 19 overs and they finished there innings at 105. The last batting pair has highest partnership of UAE innings scoring 39 runs. Only two UAE batsmen were able to make it to double figures. Not much impressive batting from UAE today though they bowled well.

I actually also personally think that Afghanistan is going to win. Of course, Afghanistan is far better compared to the UAE. So it is probably better to actually not hope for too much from the UAE against Afghanistan. And of course that was definitely true. Even though Afghanistan has a lot of problems going on for them, they are still a very talented cricketing side. So there is no reason to believe that they are actually going to lose against the UAE.

[JunkieMiner]

I actually also personally think that Afghanistan is going to win. Of course, Afghanistan is far better compared to the UAE. So it is probably better to actually not hope for too much from the UAE against Afghanistan. And of course that was definitely true. Even though Afghanistan has a lot of problems going on for them, they are still a very talented cricketing side. So there is no reason to believe that they are actually going to lose against the UAE.

Afghanistan makes far better than many teams in the less time even it was a new time that was playing with the teams like India, Pakistan, Australia, England and then they played many series with these teams. Making their bowling attack quite nice and then they started their batting attack to be on the better place. They have players like Rashid Khan and also Shehzad their keeper which is a good opener.

[SATWAT]

Tour match was finished now and UAE batting inning also ended now, at the end of their batting inning, UAE squad scored only 105 scores and UAE squad played almost 30.4 overs and all squad got out from crease. Afghanistan squad was not  made good scores but their bowling inning was wonderful and they break down all batters of UAE squad when 109 scores were remained for defend. Only this Dhruv Parashar  batter played good inning and he collected 38 scores off 61 deliveries.

This result was expected because Afghanistan team is much stronger then UAE. Yamin Ahmadzai took five wickets along with Bilal Sami who took two early wickets. Interestingly UAE were 66 for 9 in 19 overs and they finished there innings at 105. The last batting pair has highest partnership of UAE innings scoring 39 runs. Only two UAE batsmen were able to make it to double figures. Not much impressive batting from UAE today though they bowled well.

UAE is not played enough international games to beat Afghanistan who beat Pakistan, Netherland,Srilanka and England. They were very close to won against Australia also if Maxwell doesn't help team to win the match. UAE is still new team but I think the match should not be one sided because UAE have some advantages with home pitches. Afghanistan is really going to strong every day. Rahmat shah is my favorite player. He is very experienced and using different different techniques. He fits for all format of cricket. UAE should show some effort in the next upcoming matches.

UAE is associate country but still they are having too many matches with just because of UAE influence in ICC, but this is not good as they are having no native players and their grass root sporting system is also not ideal for this game which is having not good chance of improved quality and performance with Afghanistan is surely one of the best rising teams in Asia and World with their few quality spinners and few good batsmen even they are also not able to play at home but still doing good development, and we can have good future of this game in this country their recent performance in World Cup is also impressive which is indicating things will be on positive side for the development.

[HelliumZ]

I actually also personally think that Afghanistan is going to win. Of course, Afghanistan is far better compared to the UAE. So it is probably better to actually not hope for too much from the UAE against Afghanistan. And of course that was definitely true. Even though Afghanistan has a lot of problems going on for them, they are still a very talented cricketing side. So there is no reason to believe that they are actually going to lose against the UAE.

Afghanistan makes far better than many teams in the less time even it was a new time that was playing with the teams like India, Pakistan, Australia, England and then they played many series with these teams. Making their bowling attack quite nice and then they started their batting attack to be on the better place. They have players like Rashid Khan and also Shehzad their keeper which is a good opener.

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

[synchronym]

I actually also personally think that Afghanistan is going to win. Of course, Afghanistan is far better compared to the UAE. So it is probably better to actually not hope for too much from the UAE against Afghanistan. And of course that was definitely true. Even though Afghanistan has a lot of problems going on for them, they are still a very talented cricketing side. So there is no reason to believe that they are actually going to lose against the UAE.

Afghanistan makes far better than many teams in the less time even it was a new time that was playing with the teams like India, Pakistan, Australia, England and then they played many series with these teams. Making their bowling attack quite nice and then they started their batting attack to be on the better place. They have players like Rashid Khan and also Shehzad their keeper which is a good opener.

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

op i agree with you because 2023 world cup afghanistan performed great. Every player of Afghanistan has performed brilliantly in the 2023 World Cup as if the whole world has seen a new Afghanistan. Rashid Khan's team won the hearts of thousands of cricket fans in that match against Sri Lanka in the Asia Cup in Afghanistan. The 2023 World Cup continued with Rashid Khan's team's excellent performance in that match. Bangladesh and England have batted very badly in the 2023 World Cup and on the other hand teams like Afghanistan have performed very well. I believe this Afghanistan will go far in the future.

[Sithara007]

UAE is associate country but still they are having too many matches with just because of UAE influence in ICC, but this is not good as they are having no native players and their grass root sporting system is also not ideal for this game which is having not good chance of improved quality and performance with Afghanistan is surely one of the best rising teams in Asia and World with their few quality spinners and few good batsmen even they are also not able to play at home but still doing good development, and we can have good future of this game in this country their recent performance in World Cup is also impressive which is indicating things will be on positive side for the development.

There are more deserving associate nations out there, such as Nepal, Netherlands and Namibia. But it is the United Arab Emirates who always get matches against the full member nations, because of their fat pockets and dominance in the ICC. And even then, no one comes to watch their matches. Even their own players are not interested in the cricket team because all of them are citizens of either India or Pakistan and their moral support is for these teams. In the end, no one cares about these matches, and they are just for the record.

[ThemePen]

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

Yes you are right. They played well in the ICC World Cup. They was just near to the Semifinal Qualification. But Australia defeated them. Especially I remember the Maxwell batting.
By the way I was expecting that the Afghanistan will perform well. But they didn't make a higher target. I was expecting that they will make 250+ runs but they didn't do that. But their bowling was quite well. They restricted the United Arab Emirates team below 110 runs. They have one more tour match and I hope Afghanistan will win that match too. After that they will play T20 series. They will play 3 matches. And I hope Afghanistan will the series. So let's see.  

[Tipstar]

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

Yes you are right. They played well in the ICC World Cup. They was just near to the Semifinal Qualification. But Australia defeated them. Especially I remember the Maxwell batting.
By the way I was expecting that the Afghanistan will perform well. But they didn't make a higher target. I was expecting that they will make 250+ runs but they didn't do that. But their bowling was quite well. They restricted the United Arab Emirates team below 110 runs. They have one more tour match and I hope Afghanistan will win that match too. After that they will play T20 series. They will play 3 matches. And I hope Afghanistan will the series. So let's see.  

Afghanistan currently is the best team among the associate nations and are presenting well in world stage. Provided we have a few more challenging teams, the very rule for the elite teams in cricket would be challenged. The problem with afghanistan is there's future is troublesome. With the national level ban on women cricket in Afghanistan, there has been rising pressure to ban the mens team as well. And even if they are not outright banned, they'll get less exposure and considering the economic situation, creating new talents would not get a priority.

[Sithara007]

Afghanistan currently is the best team among the associate nations and are presenting well in world stage. Provided we have a few more challenging teams, the very rule for the elite teams in cricket would be challenged. The problem with afghanistan is there's future is troublesome. With the national level ban on women cricket in Afghanistan, there has been rising pressure to ban the mens team as well. And even if they are not outright banned, they'll get less exposure and considering the economic situation, creating new talents would not get a priority.

WTF man? Afghanistan is not an associate nation. They got full member status back in 2019 and their funding from ICC also went up by 20x. Obviously the ICC bent rules for Afghanistan. The rules state that any full member nation needs to have a functional women's domestic setup. On the other hand, Afghanistan doesn't even have a women's national team. And a number of cricket boards, including CA and ECB objected to the reclassification because of this. But then, BCCI was in support of Afghanistan and that enabled the ICC to push ahead.

[wiss19]

UAE is associate country but still they are having too many matches with just because of UAE influence in ICC, but this is not good as they are having no native players and their grass root sporting system is also not ideal for this game which is having not good chance of improved quality and performance with Afghanistan is surely one of the best rising teams in Asia and World with their few quality spinners and few good batsmen even they are also not able to play at home but still doing good development, and we can have good future of this game in this country their recent performance in World Cup is also impressive which is indicating things will be on positive side for the development.

There are more deserving associate nations out there, such as Nepal, Netherlands and Namibia. But it is the United Arab Emirates who always get matches against the full member nations, because of their fat pockets and dominance in the ICC. And even then, no one comes to watch their matches. Even their own players are not interested in the cricket team because all of them are citizens of either India or Pakistan and their moral support is for these teams. In the end, no one cares about these matches, and they are just for the record.

I have to agree with this all but now as we are heading for the professionalism in this game and franchise specially these Arabs are investing look like moral or dignity could be stayed in only books and no one will care about this all because money is going to change things, and surely we are going to this way with no one can stop this all as we all know checking how SPL is changing the way in soccer even they are currently able to bring old players but still their money is creating changes, and they are doing this all, so things like these will happen in cricket as well.

ICC is just a puppet organization which is having no worth and weak boards will also not able to survive just few strong enough boards will be survived and able to compete with this, all others have to be gone down and stay in dark age if ICC not able to bring any solid policy for this all.

[Sithara007]

I have to agree with this all but now as we are heading for the professionalism in this game and franchise specially these Arabs are investing look like moral or dignity could be stayed in only books and no one will care about this all because money is going to change things, and surely we are going to this way with no one can stop this all as we all know checking how SPL is changing the way in soccer even they are currently able to bring old players but still their money is creating changes, and they are doing this all, so things like these will happen in cricket as well.

ICC is just a puppet organization which is having no worth and weak boards will also not able to survive just few strong enough boards will be survived and able to compete with this, all others have to be gone down and stay in dark age if ICC not able to bring any solid policy for this all.

This was bound to happen at some point. At present, Indian market is contributing to around 80% of the media rights revenue for the ICC. And countries such as United Arab Emirates are important, because it is where a lot of illicit money from India flows into. Considerable number of Indians, from all political ideologies have secret bank accounts and other assets in the UAE. On top of that, the headquarters of ICC is also located in that country. And this is the reason why UAE has become the blue eyed boys of the ICC, and a lower priority is given to teams with native players.

[DanWalker]

I have to agree with this all but now as we are heading for the professionalism in this game and franchise specially these Arabs are investing look like moral or dignity could be stayed in only books and no one will care about this all because money is going to change things, and surely we are going to this way with no one can stop this all as we all know checking how SPL is changing the way in soccer even they are currently able to bring old players but still their money is creating changes, and they are doing this all, so things like these will happen in cricket as well.

ICC is just a puppet organization which is having no worth and weak boards will also not able to survive just few strong enough boards will be survived and able to compete with this, all others have to be gone down and stay in dark age if ICC not able to bring any solid policy for this all.

This was bound to happen at some point. At present, Indian market is contributing to around 80% of the media rights revenue for the ICC. And countries such as United Arab Emirates are important, because it is where a lot of illicit money from India flows into. Considerable number of Indians, from all political ideologies have secret bank accounts and other assets in the UAE. On top of that, the headquarters of ICC is also located in that country. And this is the reason why UAE has become the blue eyed boys of the ICC, and a lower priority is given to teams with native players.

That is also a reason why the problem of playing a lot of foreign players is never going to be fixed because a lot of teams that are very close to the ICC and also bring the ICC a good amount of money have a lot of players that are foreigners.  They are basically playing whoever they want. Maybe at first they thought it would be actually an expansion of the game. But now we can see that it is not working. But even though it is not working ICC is actually not going to do anything because as you said those teams are actually the ‘blue eyed man’.

[Sithara007]

That is also a reason why the problem of playing a lot of foreign players is never going to be fixed because a lot of teams that are very close to the ICC and also bring the ICC a good amount of money have a lot of players that are foreigners.  They are basically playing whoever they want. Maybe at first they thought it would be actually an expansion of the game. But now we can see that it is not working. But even though it is not working ICC is actually not going to do anything because as you said those teams are actually the ‘blue eyed man’.

Exactly. Current eligibility laws for international cricket are ridiculous and exists in no other sport. As of now, it is possible to create a "national" team from 11 foreign players. And right now, almost two-thirds of all the member nations of ICC have "national" teams entirely comprised of foreigners. And this stupid eligibility rules were tailor made to help teams like the United Arab Emirates. If only natives are allowed to participate in international matches, then the GCC nations such as UAE and Oman will not have a national team.

[Smack That Ace]

That is also a reason why the problem of playing a lot of foreign players is never going to be fixed because a lot of teams that are very close to the ICC and also bring the ICC a good amount of money have a lot of players that are foreigners.  They are basically playing whoever they want. Maybe at first they thought it would be actually an expansion of the game. But now we can see that it is not working. But even though it is not working ICC is actually not going to do anything because as you said those teams are actually the ‘blue eyed man’.

Exactly. Current eligibility laws for international cricket are ridiculous and exists in no other sport. As of now, it is possible to create a "national" team from 11 foreign players. And right now, almost two-thirds of all the member nations of ICC have "national" teams entirely comprised of foreigners. And this stupid eligibility rules were tailor made to help teams like the United Arab Emirates. If only natives are allowed to participate in international matches, then the GCC nations such as UAE and Oman will not have a national team.

If anyone thought that this was not going to happen they are just dumb. India is obviously going to make some problems for Pakistan, and just because they have differences in politics and nothing else if I am not wrong. People in general are not that bad, to be honest. Of course, there are going to be bad apples. There is always a far right and a far left. But I also believe that in general people don't care about the political problem that much. Players also don't have any problem with each other as well. It is just the politicians and the media which are also controlled by the politicians.

Regards

Duke

[Juggy777]

That is also a reason why the problem of playing a lot of foreign players is never going to be fixed because a lot of teams that are very close to the ICC and also bring the ICC a good amount of money have a lot of players that are foreigners.  They are basically playing whoever they want. Maybe at first they thought it would be actually an expansion of the game. But now we can see that it is not working. But even though it is not working ICC is actually not going to do anything because as you said those teams are actually the ‘blue eyed man’.

Exactly. Current eligibility laws for international cricket are ridiculous and exists in no other sport. As of now, it is possible to create a "national" team from 11 foreign players. And right now, almost two-thirds of all the member nations of ICC have "national" teams entirely comprised of foreigners. And this stupid eligibility rules were tailor made to help teams like the United Arab Emirates. If only natives are allowed to participate in international matches, then the GCC nations such as UAE and Oman will not have a national team.

@Sithara007 I don’t see why ICC will change these rules because for them natives player’s are not that important having more teams is and currently I don’t even remember reading any major country raising any objections on this rule. Lastly this rule can only be changed if one of the big 4 demands it be changed but until then I highly doubt that ICC will ever change this rule.

[Compromise me]

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

Afghanistan International team performance is excellent towards World cup 2023. When Rashid Khan became the part of Afghanistan team , Afghanistan International cricket team became a strong team. Rashid is best bowler whole the World. In the history, Afghanistan did not gave tough time to Pakistani team but now at that time Afghanistan International cricket team is much stronger than Pakistani cricket team. Pakistani team should work on their weaknesses.

[kro55]

Afghanistan 2023 ODI World Cup has been the biggest surprise as they have defeated two tough opponents like England and Pakistan. Moreover, Afghanistan's top order batsmen performed well as usual and lower order batsmen especially Rashid khan, Mujeeb Ur Rahman could bowl well as well as bat fairly well. That's why Afghanistan's score is much higher than other teams. Moreover, most of the players of Afghanistan participate in Big Bash, IPL, PSL, Carribbean League, County League at various times. That's why they have some kind of experience working inside their batting and bowling which makes Afghanistan perform like an experienced team.

Afghanistan International team performance is excellent towards World cup 2023. When Rashid Khan became the part of Afghanistan team , Afghanistan International cricket team became a strong team. Rashid is best bowler whole the World. In the history, Afghanistan did not gave tough time to Pakistani team but now at that time Afghanistan International cricket team is much stronger than Pakistani cricket team. Pakistani team should work on their weaknesses.

The Afghanistan squad is now quite strong. The squad has a lot of talented players. And these players perform regularly in various franchise leagues. They have become more experienced as they perform in franchise leagues. This is why Afghanistan was able to beat big teams like England and Pakistan on big stages like World Cup. Afghanistan also performed well against Australia. Unfortunately they were defeated in this match. Afghanistan players have proved that they are capable of challenging any big team now. Hopefully we will see better gameplay from Afghanistan in the future.

[JunkieMiner]

Afghanistan International team performance is excellent towards World cup 2023. When Rashid Khan became the part of Afghanistan team , Afghanistan International cricket team became a strong team. Rashid is best bowler whole the World. In the history, Afghanistan did not gave tough time to Pakistani team but now at that time Afghanistan International cricket team is much stronger than Pakistani cricket team. Pakistani team should work on their weaknesses.

As I have recently mentioned that Afghanistan is a team which can beat any team with their excellence bowling attack. As in the less time they have made their achievement towards their way to success, they also have been made good batsmen and their team consisting of their top batsmen as we have recently watch their matches at the World Cup as they changed a lot from their previous performance which is better for their moral.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I don’t see why ICC will change these rules because for them natives player’s are not that important having more teams is and currently I don’t even remember reading any major country raising any objections on this rule. Lastly this rule can only be changed if one of the big 4 demands it be changed but until then I highly doubt that ICC will ever change this rule.

It's not like everyone is happy with the eligibility criteria. Teams such as Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia have complained about it. But they have limited say in matters of ICC, as the associate representatives are also BCCI proxies. ICC wants to give a picture that cricket is being played across 100+ countries. But in reality only 30-40 countries have native players in their squads, and the vast majority of them are in Africa. Most of the European, GCC and American teams are entirely comprised of foreigners.

[ThemePen]

Afghanistan International team performance is excellent towards World cup 2023. When Rashid Khan became the part of Afghanistan team , Afghanistan International cricket team became a strong team. Rashid is best bowler whole the World. In the history, Afghanistan did not gave tough time to Pakistani team but now at that time Afghanistan International cricket team is much stronger than Pakistani cricket team. Pakistani team should work on their weaknesses.

So today is the Second Tour match of the Afghanistan and United Arab Emirates. By the way Afghanistan has a good record as compare to United Arab Emirates. We have seen how Afghanistan performed in the first tour match. And Afghanistan's bowling was excellent. Yamin Ahmadzai collected 5 wickets this was a big achievement. So today I think again Afghanistan will perform well and will win todays tour match again. After these tour matches they have 3 T20I matches series and I hope that Afghanistan will also perform well in that series. So let's see what will happen in today's match.