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September 09, 2019, 02:38:47 AM
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Serbs did not respond well to adversity, especially Jokic who lost his cool and was ejected on what was clearly a foul against him. Looking at the bright side, this loss could serve as a wake-up call for them, not everything will be a cake-walk from here on now.

The ejection of Jokic cost them the game. It was a close match in the first half and when Jokic was thrown out of the game that's when Spain took advantage of. Also Ricky Rubio played well for their team.
Ricky Rubio make things possible for team Spain together with the entire team they simply take advantage of not having Jokic to push the Serbian, it's always depends from how the entire players work together and play harder to win against the favorite, expect more from this team to work more and be deserve meeting up to the finals.
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September 09, 2019, 03:58:41 AM
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Anyway, regarding tomorrows match vs Czech republic. Obviously the Czechs are in the drivers seat..
Oddsmaker thinks the other way around maybe because Greece had the NBA MVP.
Czech Republic 5.20     Greece 1.16
I would be on the Czech here for the x4 on my money and it would not be an upset if they will win this game. Crazy FIBA World cup so far, fans expectations and assumptions getting derailed and one of those is that USA and Serbia will meet in the semis not in the finals (if ever they meet). Spain would be taking the easier way to they finals and they are at 6.60 odds at the bookies right now, worth the take.

Bookmakers go with the rational thinking.
Greece is stronger team and has in its squad the best player in the world. Czech Republic has shown great performance in this tournament but we should not forget that its roster is not the best in the tournament.
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September 09, 2019, 03:58:50 AM
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Anyway, regarding tomorrows match vs Czech republic. Obviously the Czechs are in the drivers seat..
Oddsmaker thinks the other way around maybe because Greece had the NBA MVP.
Czech Republic 5.20     Greece 1.16
I would be on the Czech here for the x4 on my money and it would not be an upset if they will win this game. Crazy FIBA World cup so far, fans expectations and assumptions getting derailed and one of those is that USA and Serbia will meet in the semis not in the finals (if ever they meet). Spain would be taking the easier way to they finals and they are at 6.60 odds at the bookies right now, worth the take.

First Serbia need to beat Argentina in the quarter finals. Looking at their horrific performance during the match against Spain, even that looks doubtful. BTW, today's US vs Brazil match can be interesting as well. Brazil already have one upset against their name (vs Greece). BTW, the opponents for US in the quarter finals can be either France or Australia (depending on the results of today's match).
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September 09, 2019, 08:41:36 AM
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Czech Republic and  Greece are now playing, I already put my bet on Czech Republic to win by 6+ with a good odds, let's see if I'm lucky today.
In the early first quarter, it's the Greece who are dominating, current 10-2 so far, but this is still early, I'm still optimistic that Czech Republic will upset Greece here.
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September 09, 2019, 09:22:39 AM
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Czech Republic and  Greece are now playing, I already put my bet on Czech Republic to win by 6+ with a good odds, let's see if I'm lucky today.
In the early first quarter, it's the Greece who are dominating, current 10-2 so far, but this is still early, I'm still optimistic that Czech Republic will upset Greece here.

It's halftime and the score is 33-32 in favor of Czech Republic and Giannis got three personal fouls. Things not good for Greece at the moment.

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September 09, 2019, 10:26:13 AM
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27seconds left Greece up by 5pts.

Greek fans and esp. efialtis must be devastated right now. You just couldn't pull it through in the end even though having 12pts lead in early 4th q.  Giannis getting fouled out and some silly fouls/tech fouls might have just cost you the needed win. I thought the spark and energy provided by Thanasis at the end the 3rd q would be enough for Greece to take command over the game...guess not.  Undecided

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September 09, 2019, 10:33:41 AM
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27seconds left Greece up by 5pts.

Greek fans and esp. efialtis must be devastated right now. You just couldn't pull it through in the end even though having 12pts lead in early 4th q.  Giannis getting fouled out and some silly fouls/tech fouls might have just cost you the needed win. I thought the spark and energy provided by Thanasis at the end the 3rd q would be enough for Greece to take command over the game...guess not.  Undecided

Bad game for Czech Republic they were not able to get this win, I was able to watch the game in the last minutes of the 4th Q, I think Giannis was fouled out in the game so Czech Republic were suppose to take advantage on it. But the defense of the Greece are really good and they were able to keep that lead and win the game.

Final score is 77-84

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September 09, 2019, 10:35:29 AM
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Pathetic refereeing really... no words

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September 09, 2019, 10:39:30 AM
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Bad game for Czech Republic they were not able to get this win, I was able to watch the game in the last minutes of the 4th Q, I think Giannis was fouled out in the game so Czech Republic were suppose to take advantage on it. But the defense of the Greece are really good and they were able to keep that lead and win the game.

Final score is 77-84

No offense but your post sounds like Greece should be happy winning the game. News flash, they are not, they needed at least a 12pts win to advance to the 1/4 finals. Czechs even though losing ae celebrating right now. Props to them! Making history...

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September 09, 2019, 10:48:22 AM
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Bad game for Czech Republic they were not able to get this win, I was able to watch the game in the last minutes of the 4th Q, I think Giannis was fouled out in the game so Czech Republic were suppose to take advantage on it. But the defense of the Greece are really good and they were able to keep that lead and win the game.

Final score is 77-84

No offense but your post sounds like Greece should be happy winning the game. News flash, they are not, they needed at least a 12pts win to advance to the 1/4 finals. Czechs even though losing is celebrating right now. Props to them! Making history...

Non taken, I wasn't just aware of there's a quotient system in this game.
I am also not betting on the Greece because they are overrated, and yeah, I was right because they weren't able to beat the Czech Republic by double digit.

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September 09, 2019, 10:49:31 AM
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Did you guys see the referee with 27 seconds left after timeout? He went to the baseline, obviously not knowing the rules, LOL

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September 09, 2019, 10:54:05 AM
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Pathetic refereeing really... no words

The foul called on Giannis is 50-50, it could go either way but in fairness to the refs, their calls were consistent, Giannis should have adjusted to the calls.

Congrats to the Czech Republic for making it to the QF though it's not official yet but Brazil needs a miracle to win with a 20+ margin against US.

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September 09, 2019, 10:55:32 AM
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Pathetic refereeing really... no words

The foul called on Giannis is 50-50, it could go either way but in fairness to the refs, their calls were consistent, Giannis should have adjusted to the calls.

Congrats to the Czech Republic for making it to the QF though it's not official yet but Brazil needs a miracle to win with a 20+ margin against US.

Actually there were 3 very questionable fouls called on Giannis - not even talking about the fact he and others of our players were fouled several times with no whistle followed...

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September 09, 2019, 10:56:28 AM
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All in all - if we look at the whole tournament, not only Greece as a team failed... Giannis cant be satisfied with his personal performances either...

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September 09, 2019, 11:05:22 AM
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All in all - if we look at the whole tournament, not only Greece as a team failed... Giannis cant be satisfied with his personal performances either...
The important thing here for Giannis is the experience and he should learn from that. Greece will be back a better team next time, we know that.

FIBA officiating is way too different in the NBA and even here in our national league, fouls called is too thin but that's the way it is and teams should adjust to that and avoid too much complaining.

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September 09, 2019, 02:23:00 PM
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All in all - if we look at the whole tournament, not only Greece as a team failed... Giannis cant be satisfied with his personal performances either...
The important thing here for Giannis is the experience and he should learn from that. Greece will be back a better team next time, we know that.

FIBA officiating is way too different in the NBA and even here in our national league, fouls called is too thin but that's the way it is and teams should adjust to that and avoid too much complaining.
Well said, Greece needs to stand down and let this one to passed then come back strongly, Giannis together with his brother are still young they have a lots of experiences to improved as time goes a lots of things will be learn and will show back strongly.

FIBA in terms of regulations have a big difference from NBA, adjustment needs to workout  by players who plays  representing their National teams.

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September 09, 2019, 02:26:39 PM
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Well said, Greece needs to stand down and let this one to passed then come back strongly, Giannis together with his brother are still young they have a lots of experiences to improved as time goes a lots of things will be learn and will show back strongly.
Even if you lose games in FIBA, don't feel too bad. It's just a downfall on you. You can learn a lot from experience in playing. That was an international basketball match. Strong players from different parts of the globe were gathered. Not just Giannis and his brother. All of Greece team. But, don't get me wrong, there's a guy that stands out on that match. He's white and a good three point shooter. I just don't know who he was.




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September 09, 2019, 02:55:32 PM
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27seconds left Greece up by 5pts.

Greek fans and esp. efialtis must be devastated right now. You just couldn't pull it through in the end even though having 12pts lead in early 4th q.  Giannis getting fouled out and some silly fouls/tech fouls might have just cost you the needed win. I thought the spark and energy provided by Thanasis at the end the 3rd q would be enough for Greece to take command over the game...guess not.  Undecided

What a pity for Greece. There started with high expectations and they finished this way.
They made a good try against Czech Republic but they lost their qualification in the match against Brazil.
Congratulations to Giannis that showed who is the best player in the world, even when the rest of the Greek players outperformed.
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September 09, 2019, 03:52:19 PM
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Level of referees is so shitty in this tournament. There was lot of questionable moments in Greece - Czech fame, Greece was already robbed against Brazil, same like Lithuania against France. This happens when you don't invite best refrees to the tournament. Most of referees in World Cup simply have not enough experience to work at such high level tournaments.
Congrats to Czech Republic - quarterfinal is amazing achievement for this country.
And what a gam between Australia and France - probably best in World Cup so far. Nobdody didn't wanted to face USA in 1/4 final. Aron Baynes made 5(!) three pointers - is that real life?
Quarterfinals starts tomorrow.

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September 09, 2019, 03:54:25 PM
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Level of referees is so shitty in this tournament. There was lot of questionable moments in Greece - Czech fame, Greece was already robbed against Brazil, same like Lithuania against France. This happens when you don't invite best refrees to the tournament. Most of referees in World Cup simply have not enough experience to work at such high level tournaments.
Congrats to Czech Republic - quarterfinal is amazing achievement for this country.
And what a gam between Australia and France - probably best in World Cup so far. Nobdody didn't wanted to face USA in 1/4 final. Aron Baynes made 5(!) three pointers - is that real life?
Quarterfinals starts tomorrow.

I agree and I felt bad for you in France vs Lithuania... Regarding Greece, yes we played a bad tournament all in all but still... we were big time today. And yes, congrats to Czech Republic, its great for them - its still somewhat strange to see a team advance which is just worse... Wink

To sum up the Greek tragedy: Giannis is a great player, he is MVP, he is definitely not the best player in the world though and even more so, he is not a player to decide and win matches on his own, especially not outside of the NBA - he is just not a shooter and big scorer... Plus our coaching staff didnt find ways to integrate Giannis as good as possible. Sloukas played a bad tournament, Calathes today played the match of his life with the National team but it wasnt enough.

All in all, you just cannot compare todays Greece with the team consisting of Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Fotsis etc. back in the day. Maybe we as Greeks have to realize that we really are far away from the Elite - around 8th-10th place, this might be where we belong.

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