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August 23, 2019, 03:24:35 PM
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if it was against the rules of champagne so I think it's fair  any way almost every bounty here will end up with no payment or a scam

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August 23, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
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if it was against the rules of champagne so I think it's fair  any way almost every bounty here will end up with no payment or a scam
Champagne huh? Do you need vodka, dude?

Ended with no payment and scam are different case. You can't say removal the sig means same with getting scammed. If the rules was posted about don't remove the sig until the campaign end, it means you shouldn't remove or you will ended disqualified for receive the reward/payment. While getting scammed mean, you already do all the work according the rules until the end of campaign, but you didn't get any payment or the bounty has been reduced wuthout any explanation
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August 29, 2019, 02:50:31 AM
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There are a few campaigns allowing people to remove the signature in the condition of telling the bounty manager before doing this, but most campaigns don't allow this, and ask participants to keep wearing the signature until the end of the bounty. It is up to the participant, if he is not comfortable with this rules, he can simply avoid participating.
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August 29, 2019, 03:41:24 AM
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There are a few campaigns allowing people to remove the signature in the condition of telling the bounty manager before doing this,
that is if the manager will agree but some manager wont allow it  .  there are still bounties that do weekly countings , and its okay to remove your sigs as soon as the week has passed because you will be qualified for the stakes or payment  .

It is up to the participant, if he is not comfortable with this rules, he can simply avoid participating.
yes . at the end the decision is still on the participant because that is his life and no one can control him . he can leave or stay any time at his own discretion .
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August 31, 2019, 02:52:31 PM
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Depends on the rules and person who is managing campaign, sometimes you can talk to bounty manager and leave campaign and you will receive reward and sometimes they will remove all your reward if you do so. It shouldn't get you disqualified but if it does there is nothing you can do about it. Better approach is to join campaign at late stage, few weeks before it ends, don't join campaigns if it will last for several months and if you are not one hundred percent sure you will get tokens.
Bounty hunters who have been jumping from one bounty to another bounty thinks of it as unfair rule.
If you work for a month and then you quit your job, would you consider it fair if your employer does not pay you for work you have done that month?

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August 31, 2019, 04:51:09 PM
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They should first check the spreadsheet if the manager is  finished counting the stakes, maybe is it okay to remove signature without asking the bounty manager once the spreadsheet has been finalized.

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August 31, 2019, 10:47:57 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

That is the rule in the first place, if you don't want to follow it then stay away with that campaign, simply as that.

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Again, there are rules in joining a bounty campaign, that's why we have this rule. Some managers though are very lenient, if you PM them in advance then probably you can still get your stakes. Others have a 4 week rule, you need to stay at least 4 weeks before you can get your bounty. So I don't think it's unfair, why are you leaving the campaign in the first place?  If your remove the signature prior to the end of the campaign then you forfeit everything here.

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August 31, 2019, 11:26:48 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

That is the rule in the first place, if you don't want to follow it then stay away with that campaign, simply as that.

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Again, there are rules in joining a bounty campaign, that's why we have this rule. Some managers though are very lenient, if you PM them in advance then probably you can still get your stakes. Others have a 4 week rule, you need to stay at least 4 weeks before you can get your bounty. So I don't think it's unfair, why are you leaving the campaign in the first place?  If your remove the signature prior to the end of the campaign then you forfeit everything here.
The reason? They do leave because they do see much better gold mine that on the previous one.Most bounty hunters doesn't read up rules on the first place that's why
when they don't able to get stakes they do normally complain and not even realizing that they are the ones whose wrong into this situation.Its been clearly stated that you wont get any stakes if you leave out the campaign but there are some managers that do consider out on giving stakes even if you do leave.Its just a matter of explanation or some sort of negotitiation between participants and the manager.They aren't that hard to convince if you do really need to transfer from other bounties.Just explain everything and if they do consider it out then your lucky but if not then you should call it a day.

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September 03, 2019, 04:16:24 AM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Any of the bounty hunters that will encounter that, of course it 100% it is unfair for the participants.
But if you ask permission to the BM of the projects campaign to remove you're signature and avatar, then the
BM reply to your permission, I think your stakes will be safe if the BM allow you to do so, but if not it will be forfeit.
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September 03, 2019, 05:33:52 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Any of the bounty hunters that will encounter that, of course it 100% it is unfair for the participants.
But if you ask permission to the BM of the projects campaign to remove you're signature and avatar, then the
BM reply to your permission, I think your stakes will be safe if the BM allow you to do so, but if not it will be forfeit.
You wont really have any choice but to deal on what would be the decision of the bounty manager regarding on leaving out the campaign.
If he's a good one then he might consider out but if not then you should deal with it on having no stakes on the work you had done for the project.
A common thing actually on most bounty hunters that's why its much better to finish it until the end so effort wont be wasted.

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September 03, 2019, 06:53:39 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

That is the rule in the first place, if you don't want to follow it then stay away with that campaign, simply as that.

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Again, there are rules in joining a bounty campaign, that's why we have this rule. Some managers though are very lenient, if you PM them in advance then probably you can still get your stakes. Others have a 4 week rule, you need to stay at least 4 weeks before you can get your bounty. So I don't think it's unfair, why are you leaving the campaign in the first place?  If your remove the signature prior to the end of the campaign then you forfeit everything here.
The reason? They do leave because they do see much better gold mine that on the previous one.Most bounty hunters doesn't read up rules on the first place that's why
when they don't able to get stakes they do normally complain and not even realizing that they are the ones whose wrong into this situation.Its been clearly stated that you wont get any stakes if you leave out the campaign but there are some managers that do consider out on giving stakes even if you do leave.Its just a matter of explanation or some sort of negotitiation between participants and the manager.They aren't that hard to convince if you do really need to transfer from other bounties.Just explain everything and if they do consider it out then your lucky but if not then you should call it a day.

That is exactly my point, they find something new with supposedly "good" pay, removed their signatures without any explanation to the previous manager and then they expect something in return? That's not how a business run here, if you don't read the rules of the campaign then I'm so sorry bounty hunters are at fault here and there's no need to bitch around and complain that they have been short changes here. And obviously if the previous manager saw that you remove the signature when counting the previous weeks stakes and seeing that you didn't even bother to PM him/her then I don't see you getting the stakes unless you are lucky, but rules is rules, IMHO.

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September 05, 2019, 03:22:48 PM
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Yes it is very unfair, in the case you mentioned above, it is very clear that bounty hunters will be very disadvantaged. Moreover, the results that have been collected for weeks just disappear.
But in cases like this we can't fully blame the bounty manager, because every bounty campaign has different rules for every bounty hunter who wants to participate, and the rules are clearly written on the first page of the bounty.
So in my opinion, in cases like this the bounty manager provides tolerance or a little policy so that no party feels disadvantaged.

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September 07, 2019, 05:10:17 PM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
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September 07, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
it will be better and clear if they ask the bounty manager if they are allowed to remove thier signatures and it wont cost any trouble on both parties.

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September 07, 2019, 09:26:53 PM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
it will be better and clear if they ask the bounty manager if they are allowed to remove thier signatures and it wont cost any trouble on both parties.

If the rules indicate that, then it's fine. Here's a bounty with a similar rule and I hope some other bounty manager can adapt such rule into the campaigns they will manage in the future.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182388.0 campaign is managed by Arteezy
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September 07, 2019, 10:07:33 PM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
it will be better and clear if they ask the bounty manager if they are allowed to remove thier signatures and it wont cost any trouble on both parties.

If the rules indicate that, then it's fine. Here's a bounty with a similar rule and I hope some other bounty manager can adapt such rule into the campaigns they will manage in the future.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182388.0 campaign is managed by Arteezy

Yeah, exactly. If the rules state right from the beginning what will happen with your stakes when you leave campaing early I am totally fine with it. Even when you then lose your stakes if you remove your signature. But then they should also provide a fixed date when the bounty will end. This way I can decide before joining if I wanna keep the signature that long. And if they extend the campaign afterwards everyone should be free to remove the signature/leave the campaign without any penalty.
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September 11, 2019, 09:35:56 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

That is the rule in the first place, if you don't want to follow it then stay away with that campaign, simply as that.

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

Again, there are rules in joining a bounty campaign, that's why we have this rule. Some managers though are very lenient, if you PM them in advance then probably you can still get your stakes. Others have a 4 week rule, you need to stay at least 4 weeks before you can get your bounty. So I don't think it's unfair, why are you leaving the campaign in the first place?  If your remove the signature prior to the end of the campaign then you forfeit everything here.
The reason? They do leave because they do see much better gold mine that on the previous one.Most bounty hunters doesn't read up rules on the first place that's why
when they don't able to get stakes they do normally complain and not even realizing that they are the ones whose wrong into this situation.Its been clearly stated that you wont get any stakes if you leave out the campaign but there are some managers that do consider out on giving stakes even if you do leave.Its just a matter of explanation or some sort of negotitiation between participants and the manager.They aren't that hard to convince if you do really need to transfer from other bounties.Just explain everything and if they do consider it out then your lucky but if not then you should call it a day.

That is exactly my point, they find something new with supposedly "good" pay, removed their signatures without any explanation to the previous manager and then they expect something in return? That's not how a business run here, if you don't read the rules of the campaign then I'm so sorry bounty hunters are at fault here and there's no need to bitch around and complain that they have been short changes here. And obviously if the previous manager saw that you remove the signature when counting the previous weeks stakes and seeing that you didn't even bother to PM him/her then I don't see you getting the stakes unless you are lucky, but rules is rules, IMHO.
Rules is rules and must really be followed most of the time but there are situations that manager can change it up and might consider on adding some stakes.

It will vary on how you do explain to him on the most polite way.If they got convinced then you did well because you are hitting 2 projects in one go without
minding too much if you wont actually paid.Lastly, why would care too much if majority of projects becomes shit anyway? Grin

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September 12, 2019, 10:27:45 AM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
it will be better and clear if they ask the bounty manager if they are allowed to remove thier signatures and it wont cost any trouble on both parties.
Sometimes there's no need to ask the manager because everything that you need to know is in the rules unless you dont understand it or you want a clarification.

If you cant follow the rules then dont join.

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September 12, 2019, 03:20:36 PM
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I think making participants that have promoted the project for like 50% of the bounty duration should be allowed to take off their signature. Just my opinion though.
it will be better and clear if they ask the bounty manager if they are allowed to remove thier signatures and it wont cost any trouble on both parties.
Sometimes there's no need to ask the manager because everything that you need to know is in the rules unless you dont understand it or you want a clarification.

If you cant follow the rules then dont join.
We all know the biggest reason why people join on bounty is to earn some money. If they find and get accepted in other bounty which pay them higher than their current bounty, 99% they will leave it. And back then, there is no any rule about without getting stake or your stake will be removed if you join on other bounty.
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September 13, 2019, 05:09:09 PM
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There is a same rule in all of signature campaigns
"You must keep the signature till end of the campaign"

In my opinion it's really unfair.
Assume that a campaign includes 20 weeks. One person participate from week 1 until week 10 and makes effort for advertising the ICO. But he/she decided to participate in another campaign. In this case, bounty managers remove all the stakes that have been earned before. Don't you think it's unfair? In my opinion, he/she should give the reward for those weeks that had worn the signature.

I never enroll in this kind of campaign, it's unfair for bounty hunter, but there are bounty managers that cheats their participants from weekly stakes they make it disqualification from stakes from removing the signature, so you will be forced to wear the signature for the whole duration of the campaign.

It's much better to join a short campaign, so you can wear it on the whole campaign

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