Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling?

[KTChampions]

There are a number of people active on the forum who win money with gambling. You have to ask yourself whether their approach is smart. The only way they play is by using holes in a betting site. Some examples of players: MishaYo, realscout (royse777 is also involved in this), LEVSKI7, spyrosc200). These players deliberately take advantage of temporarily misrepresented odds. If you want to make money in this rogue way, then I advise you to contact them.

Can you give more details? From the outside, your information does not seem reliable (no offense, there is simply no evidence and nothing but general words). And I don't think it's worth contacting these users for comments, as the answer is obvious anyway.

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[Janation]

If you want to make real money with gambling, then you also have to have an iron discipline. And you always have to deal with a relapse. There are also different concepts about the term professional gambler.
What do you understand by that? If someone gambles profitably once, it is not yet a professional gambler. Arbitrage bettors are pros but sooner or later you will run into problems with a bookie.

That would be really tough.

For those gamblers that already have it, that is amazing, keep that up but most of them are not that discipline, how much more having an "iron discipline". Not all of the games that you put your money into can't always give you money since we are talking about gambling. The highest chance you could get money from gambling is through cheating and owning a casino or gambling site.

[Vinaa77]

Precisely! Set those experiences coming from other gamblers who become addicted  and lose control.

It's very possible  that  you'll  be  able to engaged too much and lose all  your savings  if you are not careful, many people suffer from depression  and some ends up committing suicide to escape  from this huge mistake. You need to be responsible in  any decision  making  that  you'll going  to take. Gambling  as profession is not easy as it is.

I am afraid that depression will stay with them for a long time as they can not control themselves in gambling. We already read about many suicide cases out there, and we must prevent that happen to one of our closest people. That is why we need to be responsible for ourselves before we lose everything that we have. We will be okay if we are playing gambling for searching the fun.

Gambling is indeed dangerous, but now I am more in control because with a higher tier in the stake we can get a bonus every month, precisely when this is an opportunity to get an advantage when we understand the patterns and sites that offer offers. but if you intend to work with gambling is a big mistake

[Crptomagma]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

[Crptomagma]

I still don’t know what it is with people and gambling, many people still see gambling as illegal and others see it as taboo and these mentality sucks. I don’t want to ever discuss gambling with someone who have the mentality that gamblers are not responsible or can be very extravagant in their spending.

[Betwrong]

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I was talking about  purely luck based games, but, of course, there are types of gambling activities where math and logic are involved. From what I know, poker and sports betting require good understanding of probabilities, and it's a fact that there are professional sports bettors and poker players that make big money with these activities. But those are very rare cases, and the wisest of them quit after making a significant profit.

Yes, I could see that you have focused your statement about the purely luck based games. And I agree with you about that. I am also aware that there are indeed known and respectable sports bettors and poker players in this industry. But I opted to generalize gambling and its nature in order to justify my opinion on how it cannot be really considered as a profession, even with people gaining expertise with it. After all, people are also and still seeking for a source of income or financial needs to be able to gamble. And with that, majority are not really independently relying with gambling but are just fond of it.

I understand and I agree with your point. Indeed, even though sports betting and poker require certain skills, there's still so much luck(or should I say, randomness and uncertainty) involved there that it's not advisable to choose these activities as your main source of income. Pro poker players and sports bettors often choose to quit after making good profits, because they know that their luck can't last forever.

[Becky666]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

[Janation]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

That is so true.

There might be a time that they actually won but that doesn't cover the fact that they are also gambling for a long period of time and that also means that they are experiencing losses in that long run. Obviously, they have other sources of income or profit other than gambling because for sure they know how cruel gambling is.

[FlightyPouch]

There are also gamblers that had a profit even they are playing for a long period of time in luck based games.

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Don't get me wrong though, I am talking about accounts having a profit but not that much of a money that they can live with it. It is just amazing that with years and years of them gambling, they still have a profit even though the chances of losing is high.

That depends on how the player managed his balance. Maybe they found some strategy which is working to earn money from whatever games they are playing and placing their bets on.
Sometimes it's not just about luck. Most of the time you need to strategize.

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

[mirakal]

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

Seriously, we are talking on being a professional gambler by playing dice? No way.. there's no way we can be professional dicer as we don't have the advantage, we will just lose in the long run, this is a pure luck based type of game, not advisable to treat it seriously, for fun, it's good.

[MCobian]

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

Seriously, we are talking on being a professional gambler by playing dice? No way.. there's no way we can be professional dicer as we don't have the advantage, we will just lose in the long run, this is a pure luck based type of game, not advisable to treat it seriously, for fun, it's good.

It is absolutely impossible for gamblers who are able to play Dice to win in the long run, because gambling games based on luck are only for
entertainment. Usually professional gamblers prefer Poker or Blackjack to be able to win in the long run, because both games do require expertise
to win. Unless the gamblers cheated when playing Dice. Because it is almost difficult to win in the long run when playing Dice, the Dice system is
made for gamblers to experience lose.

[boyptc]

I still don’t know what it is with people and gambling, many people still see gambling as illegal and others see it as taboo and these mentality sucks. I don’t want to ever discuss gambling with someone who have the mentality that gamblers are not responsible or can be very extravagant in their spending.

It cannot be removed.

It's already intact with some of the communities and places that see it as it is and that belief will never change. Maybe someday if one of their townsmen will have his fortune through gambling.

But for this time, it won't be changed and we have to embrace that reality that gambling cannot please all of the people.

[Maslate]

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

Seriously, we are talking on being a professional gambler by playing dice? No way.. there's no way we can be professional dicer as we don't have the advantage, we will just lose in the long run, this is a pure luck based type of game, not advisable to treat it seriously, for fun, it's good.

It is absolutely impossible for gamblers who are able to play Dice to win in the long run, because gambling games based on luck are only for
entertainment. Usually professional gamblers prefer Poker or Blackjack to be able to win in the long run, because both games do require expertise
to win. Unless the gamblers cheated when playing Dice. Because it is almost difficult to win in the long run when playing Dice, the Dice system is
made for gamblers to experience lose.

Sports betting as well, I guess there's a lot of sports bettors than poker players.. Fact is that, sports betting industry is a billion dollar industry, and that means lots of bettors are losers but there are winners in this kind of gambling, that's why this is the time of gambling that I want to focus.

[tyz]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

Well, this might be for some, which also have some side-businesses related to gambling, e.g. referring new members or being incluencers for gambling businesses. But there is also a minority which can solely live from income that completely results from doing gambling, mostly betting. I would say it is less than 1% of all gamblers, but they have managed to come up with a strategy / a way that will make them profitable in the long run.

[akirasendo17]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

Well, this might be for some, which also have some side-businesses related to gambling, e.g. referring new members or being incluencers for gambling businesses. But there is also a minority which can solely live from income that completely results from doing gambling, mostly betting. I would say it is less than 1% of all gamblers, but they have managed to come up with a strategy / a way that will make them profitable in the long run.

definitely, these people have learned certain tactics to be able to win even not every day, but I'm sure monthly they have profit, and yes since gambling online has some referral incentives, maybe they also get from that as well, playing for a long time means they know some patterns that they are sure what will be the result, that's why they spent a lot of times gambling because if not they are already broke right now and won't play or gamble.

[boyptc]

I still don’t know what it is with people and gambling, many people still see gambling as illegal and others see it as taboo and these mentality sucks. I don’t want to ever discuss gambling with someone who have the mentality that gamblers are not responsible or can be very extravagant in their spending.

It cannot be removed.

It's already intact with some of the communities and places that see it as it is and that belief will never change. Maybe someday if one of their townsmen will have his fortune through gambling.

But for this time, it won't be changed and we have to embrace that reality that gambling cannot please all of the people.

The numbers of those who lose their savings are far more than those who able to changed a life from this industry,
with that ratio it really hard to change people perceptions in regards to this market.

Only then, like what you said. If someone win huge and shares his earnings to his community will give some chances
that impressions will be changed.

Well, that gives a bad impression and that's also a fact.

Both sides have their own story and we know that being a responsible gambler would change others' perspective towards a gambler if he's doing good.

Or even if he's not doing good but still maintaining himself away and not compromising his priorities.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

That is so true.

There might be a time that they actually won but that doesn't cover the fact that they are also gambling for a long period of time and that also means that they are experiencing losses in that long run. Obviously, they have other sources of income or profit other than gambling because for sure they know how cruel gambling is.

There is no different thing between a professional gambler or ordinary gambler, they will have an equal opportunity to win or lose. Because there is no spesific strategy to make win or lose, they just depend on their luck for sure. I am someone who has always had the understanding that no one can live as a gambler, regardless of whether he is rich or not. Gambling cannot be used as a source of income, you can imagine how a person can live by gambling while he has to spend every day to live while he does not ensure that every time he gambles he gets money, psychologically this is something that can be accepted.

[Rengga Jati]

definitely, these people have learned certain tactics to be able to win even not every day, but I'm sure monthly they have profit, and yes since gambling online has some referral incentives, maybe they also get from that as well, playing for a long time means they know some patterns that they are sure what will be the result, that's why they spent a lot of times gambling because if not they are already broke right now and won't play or gamble.

This makes sense if the case is probably like this, people will be rich and alive from gambling.
however, it is probably only some percentage of the gamblers having this chance and conditions.
Even a professional player will not always win, they will probably lose in a day. But he tries again and make back their money from losing by winning other gamblings. probably but, how much is the percentage to take back the winning? As we are not that professional gamblers, we may not know, but for them, they probably really know how to make it.
Losing and winning in gambling maybe like what we are experiencing in trading. But with different strategies and tactics.

[Twentyonepaylots]

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

Its beneficial for anyone for that matter till the time they end up making money from it and not losing. But generally seen is most of them end up losing some money and if those who just play to win only goes into higher debt or loss as they chase their losses. Only if you play for fun it would not hurt much even if you end up in some loss.

Gambling isn't beneficial for everyone my guy, gambling is not a sure thing to get it's always 50% in any kind it's just either you lose or you win. And from that case, half of people in gambling industry is losing while the other half is winning, so I don't think there is benefit for everyone in terms of the money aspect. Maybe, just a maybe they are getting any from it beside the money for example the lesson from their past lost.

[KTChampions]

The numbers of those who lose their savings are far more than those who able to changed a life from this industry,
with that ratio it really hard to change people perceptions in regards to this market.

Only then, like what you said. If someone win huge and shares his earnings to his community will give some chances
that impressions will be changed.

If a person does not like gambling, then he may simply not play them. Problems begin when he wants to ban everything that he does not like not only himself but also other people. I don't see anything wrong with gambling - it's entertainment. If you abuse it then this is your problem. A person can abuse anything - drink, food, etc. but this does not characterize these things as bad.